What do I do? I've been offered a job as project manager at a big, big translation agency here in Leeds, one of the biggest players in the world, starting at 20K, with bonuses (doubt it's much), and a promise to be fast-tracked to senior project manager within six months, and onwards and upwards.
But I HATE project management. Particularly in the translation world, funnily enough, even though it's my field.
AND I can earn more just as a freelance translator, be my own boss, work the hours I like, toss it off as much as I want, and so on.
I don't want to take the job, but I feel that if I turn it down, I'm closing one heck of a potentially big door, probably permanently.
But who wants to work 9 to 5 for someone else, when you can work, er, funny hours, for yourself, and earn a bit more, right?
I should just say no thanks, shouldn't I. It's about what makes you happiest, not about the money, isn't it.
Er, so, yeah, how is everyone today?
Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :
taking a job that "promises" to have you fast tracked in 6 months. vs working for yourself and potentially freelancing for the same company?
if you hate the aspects of the job you're going to be fast tracked to, wouldn't it be horrible doing that job?
is there a 3rd way?
i'm fine thanks.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
I doubt I'd ever do any freelance work for them - they contacted me the other day (different department to the recruiting people) saying yes hello we'd like you on our books, can you confirm this rate and these conditions. I said, well, it all depends on the texts, and it would be per source word not per target word, and so on, so they probably threw that straight in the bin.
No, my freelance work is all from other agencies, translators, websites, etc.
But, yeah, I think I should say no, but I wonder if maybe I should say yes and give it a go for a bit -- there'd be no shame in resigning after a couple of months if I did hate it. Just that then I'd have to get back on the self-employed track all over again...
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
Don't do it. Promises of 'fast-tracking' never come to anything, in my experience (though that might be because they realise I'm a bit shit), and even if it does, so what. You'll be doing even more of what you don't like doing. Or, worse, organising other people into doing what you don't like. Unless all the people are really gr9, and you'll have a super laugh every day, I'd say stay freelancing.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
Yeah, at the end of the interview they walked me round the bit where all the project managers were, and it was a bit soul-destroying, just tons of people in front of banks of computers (I know, you're all thinking hang on, that's my job!), with no real cool friendly vibe like there was at W&P, say (Herbs), which was small and funky and fun.
I think it's a no isn't it.
Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :
no. i mean yes. it's a no.
and you described my job. though i do have fun and funky peoples to hang out with.
and free pizza once a month.
woot.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
Don't bother. It's not like the money's really that great, and if you don't particularly fancy the job now, then chances are you're only going to end up hating it. But then you know all that anyway don't you.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
Yeah, bit of a pointless bloody thread, really.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
Take the gig. It's steady pay, and if indeed you do rise through the ranks as promised, you can change things.
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
Is there any chance that they'd go for maybe something like a six-month contract, three days a week? That'd give you time to still do your own freelance work and give you a chance to discover if you like the organisation/people?
Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :
quote:Originally posted by ralph: Take the gig. It's steady pay, and if indeed you do rise through the ranks as promised, you can change things.
rrrright.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
quote:Originally posted by H1ppychick: Is there any chance that they'd go for maybe something like a six-month contract, three days a week? That'd give you time to still do your own freelance work and give you a chance to discover if you like the organisation/people?
That's an interesting idea, and one I might put to them as an option, and they can choose how much they want me. I like it!
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by doc d:
quote:Originally posted by ralph: Take the gig. It's steady pay, and if indeed you do rise through the ranks as promised, you can change things.
rrrright.
Fine. Take the gig. It's steady pay. Give up your soul. Join me. Not having a soul isn't that bad. Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
quote:Originally posted by herbs: Promises of 'fast-tracking' never come to anything, in my experience
TRUTH OF AGES.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
quote:Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
quote:Originally posted by herbs: Promises of 'fast-tracking' never come to anything, in my experience
TRUTH OF AGES.
Double-quoted for added smugnoddery.
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
i dont think you guys are asking the right question: how much does mart value the ability to have a wank whenever he likes? its one of the key motivators for many freelancers, and hes mentioned it his orinial post so its obviously an important aspect of his workplace values set, but everyones seemingly looking past it. i know that many of you havent worked freelance, so it may not even occur to you what an intrinsic aspect of the lifestyle it could become, being able to have a cheeky fiddlefaddle at the drop of a paperclip. you know, ive had my sandwich, the kettles on, what next? oh lovely, time for a wank. this downloading progress bar isnt moving too quickly, shall i press cancel or shall i have a wank; i havent won a single game of spider solitaire for ninety minutes but my brain's not yet shifted into work mode- oh well, maybe a wank will set the cogs a- turnin'. its key stuff.
mart mart mart; when you see it in black and white its not really a choice, is it? move back into the world of the office, where you will be abused and used by the capitalist mindset, or stay freelance, where you can abuse yourself. CHOOSE FREELANCE. CHOOSE WANKING.
[ 14.04.2008, 09:23: Message edited by: dance margarita ]
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
you can wank in an office you know.
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
i'm wanking right now!
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
pics or stfu
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
quote:Originally posted by ralph: you can wank in an office you know.
in the toilet of the office. not in the actual office. if im going to wank at work, i need comfort. the smell of liquid soap does nothing for me. i like to wank on the sofa with the archers on in the background. or world at one. or, if things are getting really tough, that comedy programme starring pam ayres set in a garden centre. but thats desperate times calling for desperate measures, obviously.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by dance margarita: in the toilet of the office. not in the actual office.
perhaps not in the office proper. but a lot of pre-wank work can be accomplished in the privacy of ones own cubicle.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Ralph works in a cubicle. Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
yeah but i bet its right furtive isnt it ralph? if youre freelance, you can make as much noise as you like. you can recline. imagine how much more productive your post- tug spurts of creativity would be if you had been able to tug away lazily on your chaise longue, watching the world float past through the windowglass, rather than hunching over yourself under flourescent lights and listening to the whine of the photocopier.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
I've always likened it to being on a Borg ship. Yes, I work in a cubicle. One in a huge sea of cubicles. So what?
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
Because it's about wanking in the office. With sound.
Not safe for work, that is... unless you're a freelancer!
[ 14.04.2008, 09:58: Message edited by: mart ]
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
Ah. But see that's where the cubicle comes in handy. Three walls. More privacy than an open floorplan.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Pubicle.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
Is it a Herman Miller Action Office? Do you pretend to be Neo?
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
How's The Pod these days, Ringo?
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
I don't work in that office any more, I'm afraid. Haven't done for years in fact, although I do still get by that way sometimes as I still provide support there. Some of the Pods are as they were during my time there, while others have undergone some significant refurbishment. I approve of the work, it has been done to a high standard, and the end result is an impressive, well designed space which has the flexibility to be used for a variety of clerical and administrative purposes. Including (but not limited to) staff meetings, training sessions, and video conferencing.
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
People should be allowed to take their own cubicles with them throughout their working lives. The law should just say, "Maximum footprint 6ft x 6ft", and then you could decide if you wanted a little tiny desk in a box, with the rest of the floorspace taken up with decking, a sunlounger and a barbecue, or if you would have a precise 6ft cube made of matt black, 3" thick steel with a forbidding remote controlled sliding door which wisps of smoke came out of when it opened.
You could have desirable fittings, like a hot tub or a sauna or table football, which would be more likely to get you picked for a job. There would be a special section on your CV, preferably replacing the long-redundant "Education", where you could describe your pod in enticing detail.
Offices would be built with those special cranes they have at container ports, for when you had the six monthly company re-organisation.
etc.
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
Quality DangPlan!
I got a desk at the weekend for at home, so I can have a little pod in the corner of my living room. It is entirely made up from scavenged items! The desk was snaffled from a house I used to rent and given to my friend, who has just upgraded and given it back. The laptop was donated by another friend who had a spare, there is an external hardrive containing my ex’s entire CD collection which was a splitting-up present, and this evening I plan to steal some unused speakers from the lab to complete my work/music multiple use corner.
I’m like a womble!
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
I was also supposed to get a cat at the weekend, but didn't because my housemate is an asshat. Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :
your housemate did you a favour. cats are shits.
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
Cats are a lot of work. Here are my pets Clarence and Nicholas enjoying the snow we had the other day. They're much less work that cats.
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
I like cats though. I don’t think they are much work – just tip some food out of a bag each morning. I would train it to use the toilet obviously.
It was going to be my friend, and would keep me company so I would never need to leave the house again.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
cats rule. but you might want to give it some water once in a while too.
Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :
quote:Originally posted by ralph: cats rule. but you might want to give it some water once in a while too.
fuck 'em. they should have developed a longer loop of henle.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
What?
Cats don't in fact need much water - in the wild they get all the moisture they need from their prey. Good job, as they're not very good at drinking. A lot of ineffectual lapping.
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
It's something to do with kidneys, Herbs. I think.
Should I buy some flat shoes and a nice shirt on my way home?
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
Yes.
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
I shall, then.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
Ringo's mum will be pleased.
Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :
quote:Originally posted by herbs: A lot of ineffectual lapping.
jennyeclair?
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
Well, I turned 'em down.
They did say that if six months down the line I felt I had made the wrong choice, then we could talk again.
So. Yes. Freelancer. That's me.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
I feel bad that nobody has noticed this. Poor mart.
I guess you have your reasons for turning it down. But I still say you'll regret it someday.
Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :
quote:Originally posted by mart: Well, I turned 'em down.
They did say that if six months down the line I felt I had made the wrong choice, then we could talk again.
So. Yes. Freelancer. That's me.
i say well done. i say. have a look in 6 months. or start your own company. a co-op of freelanceers. you could be like proposition joe.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
naooooo that's exactly what i don't want to do. i don't have any business vocation or entrepreneurial pretensions. i want to be a self-employed freelance translator, with no one to worry about but myself. client emails me work, i do work, i email work to client, i send invoice, i get paid.
and that's what i'm doing Posted by sam (Member # 884) on :
What's your language?
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
For what it's worth, I think mart made absolutely the correct choice. I'd go solo in a minute if I could make the same money doing so. The only reason I'm chained to the corporate wheel is for stability - and that's not always the most direct path to life satisfaction, if you know what I mean.
[ 17.04.2008, 09:29: Message edited by: froopyscot ]
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
You askin'?
Posted by sam (Member # 884) on :
i'm askin'. Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
Then I'm dancin'!
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by froopyscot: The only reason I'm chained to the corporate wheel is for stability - and that's not always the most direct path to life satisfaction, if you know what I mean.
Same here. But while it may not be the most direct path to life satisfaction, it does make it easier going to bed at night knowing that I'll still have food to eat and a roof over my head six months from now.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
quote:Originally posted by froopyscot: and that's not always the most direct path to life satisfaction, if you know what I mean.
Yeah, exactly. And there's the wanking, of course.
(sam - spanish to english)
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
quote:Originally posted by ralph: I'll still have food to eat and a roof over my head six months from now.
As a freelancer, you'd have even more time to build yourself another roof?
Probably not what you meant, exactly. But think about all the extra time you'd have to, er, build stuff.
To complete the picture perhaps you could start a roadside business selling chainsaw tree sculpture things, indian headdresses and bears and perhaps the odd impossible large piece of fruit for variety. I imagine a large tree shaped by chainsaw into the shape of a banana would sell particularly well.
This is also why few people come to me more than once for career advice.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
quote:Originally posted by ralph: Same here. But while it may not be the most direct path to life satisfaction, it does make it easier going to bed at night knowing that I'll still have food to eat and a roof over my head six months from now.
True, but I've effectively been freelance all my working life (except in Spain I dressed it up as a company), and really it's the way to be for someone who does what I do. I've always managed to make a living, and I know I'm good at what I do (I keep getting quite lavish compliments* from my clients, and they keep coming back for more...)
*"Thanks for that, it was fine." Posted by sam (Member # 884) on :
what did you lot used to call it? desking?
ETA obviously I don't mean the translating
[ 17.04.2008, 09:41: Message edited by: sam ]
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
getting desky or chairy for the ladies
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
i havent freelanced myself, but ive watched my mum freelance for the last 15 years. its an amazing thing- when you most need the work to turn up, it always does. always. its the magic of freelancing. this does of course mean that you can only commit to freelancing if you BELIEVE in the magic. leap and the net will appear, so to speak.
eta: which is to say- well done mart, i think you made the right decision. maybe you could celebrate with a really extreme wank. climb on top of the bedroom cupboard or something.
[ 17.04.2008, 09:42: Message edited by: dance margarita ]
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
that is very true, it has always been the way for me too, disco
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
quote:Originally posted by sam: what did you lot used to call it? desking?
Desky is the forum term for male sexual arousal and refers to the spontaneous lifting of said item of office furniture upon reading sexually provocative material. Chairy is the female equivalent. Think about it. This is an in-joke.
Posted by sam (Member # 884) on :
quote:Originally posted by mart: getting desky or chairy for the ladies
I wonder if my Year 7s would notice me doing this?
I could put the picture of ringo in his lycra on my desk.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
I've recently acquired a Nokia N95, which thanks to its capacious storage space and practical wipe-clean screen and reasonable has opened up a whole new world of portable wanking possibilities.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
quote:Originally posted by dance margarita: i havent freelanced myself, but ive watched my mum freelance for the last 15 years. its an amazing thing- when you most need the work to turn up, it always does. always. its the magic of freelancing. this does of course mean that you can only commit to freelancing if you BELIEVE in the magic. leap and the net will appear, so to speak.
Strong truth, as they say on Barbelith. Though maybe this only applies if you're any good at what you do. And do it on time. I've been both sides of the fence, freelancing for three years before I took this job. Now I do the commissioning, if someone's late, or I have to spend more time rewriting their feature than it would have taken me to write it myself, I don't use them again. I am Manager. Hear me ROAR!!!
But, like Mart, I like the simplicity of: client ask, I do, client pay. That's it. No office politics, or shizzle. When I took this current job I did everything myself. Now I have four people I can tell to do it for me. But I don't like telling people what to do, or, even worse, telling them they've done it wrong, probably because I didn't tell them what I really wanted in the first place, because I was afraid of being too bossy and them not liking me. And then there's the Frankenstein's Monster scenario, that you train someone well enough that they eventually take over your job. Gah. I think I want to be a freelance again. Or, maybe, a 'Consultant'.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
I've been a 'consultant' recently - it's pretty good. People actually listen to what you say and treat it as great wisdom even though it's the same cretinous bullshit that got you binned from your last job, where, because you were on the payroll, everyone ignored you.
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
meh, dull.
[ 17.04.2008, 11:13: Message edited by: H1ppychick ]
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
well i got your point, and i agree, it sounds like you're on to a winner there.
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
H1ppy why did you delete? Your story of prosperity through contract assignments actually gave me a momentary flicker of... something, what was it now. Oh yes, hope.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
It made me want to shag her, quite frankly.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
I've lazed my way into the very heart of a soulless, monolithic corporate machine. For all my father-rage, I seem hellbent on living within extremely paternal systems.
It's funny. Almost nothing has changed in terms of my working life in seven years, apart from a momentary collapse into minimum wage sweatshop slavery. I'm working at the same company I was when I first started writing on tmo. Still a temp. Still wearing shitty shoes and creased suits.
Just get through it, and go home.
[ 17.04.2008, 11:49: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
It made me want to go back to contract work. And to shag her a little.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: Just get through it, and go home.
I hear you brother. hugs Steve
eta: How many people work for your company, Steve? I'm one of over 10,000 lost souls.
[ 17.04.2008, 11:49: Message edited by: ralph ]
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
*cries*
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
I'm one of about 100,000 Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
150k
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
Oh my dear god. You're ten times as soul-less than I am. {{{{HUGS}}}}
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
but I like to think, we're doing this so other people can have their fun.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
I've never thought about it that way...probably because it's really stupid.
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
OH no sorry. That's the average earning for people in my company... Trying to find out how many employees there are now.
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
Woot. Apparently there were only 65,800 in 2005 so perhaps around that figure. I suddenly feel much more important....
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
next time somebody tells you about how they've jacked it all in to chase their dream, just remember mind that you're keeping shit running so the system allows them to do it. It's actually all thanks to you. You're at the centre of everything. It's just that nobody has realised.
It's all thanks to you Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
I just checked the phone list, and apparently I'm one of 27, split over three offices (UK, USA and Japan). None of us has a soul. When I started here, there were over 75 of us.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
I just had a wank.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
you can thank me for that wank, mart.
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
why, were you engaging in phone sex together?
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
I'm one of 120, but it doesn't matter because Gordon Brown is putting me out of a job this year, the wanker.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Was it a good one, Mart?
Marks out of ten?
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
Note: Gordon Brown is not a wanker in the same way that mart is, evidently.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
I didn't really have a wank.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
Oh, I thought you had a wank. But it turns out you didn't!
[ 17.04.2008, 12:07: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Louche: Note: Gordon Brown is not a wanker in the same way that mart is, evidently.
I imagine he'll die of prostate cancer soon enough then.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
So, Mart, you weren't really, do you see, 'on the job'? Hmm?
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
Hmm!
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
quote:Originally posted by mart: I just had a wank.
You should think about getting off the bus soon then!
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
If you had had a wank, would you have been imagining Ringo naked whilst you did it?
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
I can't find out how many people work for my company. Here's a lovely example of glossy recruitment bullshit from the website, though:
We may be a big organisation, but it's our focus on the smallest details that allows us to stand out. After all, we know that our most important asset is you. So when it comes to a working environment, you won't find one better - something that’s been recognised by The Sunday Times, who have awarded us as one of the best big companies to work for in the UK based on feedback from our employees.
...our overall aim is to create an environment that encourages you to grow and develop at a pace you're comfortable with, and enjoy your life in the process.
We're big on recognition too, and we never set the limit on what can be achieved. So if you've an ambition you want to attain, we'll do everything we can to help you reach it. There's no doubting that our environment is a demanding one, but you'll find the challenge of succeeding just as attractive as we do. Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
quote:Originally posted by Louche: If you had had a wank, would you have been imagining Ringo naked whilst you did it?
fwap, fwap
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Oh, you work for ĀXĀ?
[ 17.04.2008, 12:15: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
If it's a big company it may well have the number of employees on wikipedia. That's where I found mine
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
There's only 11 in my company. Advantages: no corporate bullshite-wankery, big fish in small pond. Disadvantages: bugger all holiday, no pay rises, work in damp basement, one toilet between us. Which means limited wanking opportunity.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
I'm in the office at the moment. It's quite comfortable. I sit at 3.07C. I'm logged into the phone system and checked into my workspace. A slogan on the wall tells me to "be courageous". It's in brand colours and typeface.
There is a note next to my desk from Operations Infrastructure and Procurement. It reminds me
"Don't forget to check into your workspace"
It is laminated.
It features a photograph of some stacked up towels , taken from the corporate brand image library. I think the picture is a representation of order. It reminds me of the beauty of doing what I'm told.
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
The combined group has 189,000 employees Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by Cherry In Hove: If it's a big company it may well have the number of employees on wikipedia. That's where I found mine
I hadn't thought of that. Turns out I'm not on of 10,000. I'm one of 26,000. Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: Oh, you work for ĀXĀ?
So she does. That means there are 189,927 employees...
And our company gets tons of complaints about AXA every day
[ 17.04.2008, 12:18: Message edited by: Cherry In Hove ]
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Cherry In Hove: So she does. That means there are 189,927 employees...
As of 2004, yes.
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
I used to work in an Axa call centre. For £5.50 an hour. I was very poor then.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
My dad is the boss of AXA.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Is there an AXA Tower ? Has your boss ever taken you up it, H1ppychick?
[ 17.04.2008, 12:21: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: My dad is the boss of AXA.
Your dad is Henri de Castries?
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: Is there an AXA Tower ? Has your boss ever taken you up it, H1ppychick?
Yes, and no.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
yes, and my grandfather enlisted in 1940 in the Saumur cavalry section and fought to liberate France and then served in Indochina, in Korea and in Algeria until 1962.
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
enough of this dull AXA sidetrackery, I have plenty of that at work already, TVM.
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
The healthcare insurance thingy I get through work is from Axa. is it any good, H1ppy?
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