It's been a while since Mart's Dr Bastard GP thread.
I am going to "the doctors" tonight, for the first time in about 6 years, to see about this Pill thing. Will probably jinx myself and get no more sex, but apparently it makes your boobs bigger *hopeful*. I have no idea if my GP is a man or a woman or any good. God, the waiting room is going to be stuffy, overheated and full of old crumpled Hello magazines and disease-ridden Croydonites. I can't decide whether it's worse than going to the hairdresser or not.
Any recent doctor horror stories? Or how about some good Doctor, Doctor jokes.
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
My old Doctor who I really liked retired and has been replaced by a new woman doctore who is about 70 years old. I don't get it, Dr. Ang was only about 45ish if that and she's retired to be replaced by this 100 year old, lavender scented, blue rinsed granny.
Still, Dr. Granny gave me some cream to clear up this 'lump' that was growing on my chin and as if by magic it's gone all away, so despite looking as though she has alzheimers she does seem to know what she's doing..
A businessman goes to see his physician. "Doctor, I've got this problem," the man says. "My secretary, she loves to give blow jobs. Every morning when I get to work I get a blow job. She gives me a quick one before I leave for lunch. And before I leave work at the end of the day she really works me over." "So what seems to be the problem?" the doctor asked. "Well, you see, my wife is a nymphomaniac," the man continued. "I service her every morning when we get up. I go home for a quick half hour every day at lunch and then we have a marathon session each night before we go to sleep." "I still don't know what your problem is," said the doctor.
"Every time I masturbate I get these dizzy spells."
This lady is having a bed wetting problem, so she decides to go to the doctor. The doctor tells her to go and get undressed and wait for him in the other room. When the doctor goes into the room he tells the lady to stand on her head facing the mirror. She figures he is a doctor and gets in front of the mirror. The doctor goes over to the lady and rests his chin between her legs and looks in the mirror. After a few minutes he stands up and tells the lady to go ahead and put her clothes back on and he will talk to her when she is dressed. The lady puts her clothes on and asks the doctor what is wrong with her. He tells her that she needs to quit drinking before she goes to bed. The lady asks the doctor why he had her get naked in front of the mirror and stand on her head.
"I just wanted to see how I would look with a beard."
A new bride went to her doctor for a check up. Lacking knowledge of the male anatomy, she asked the doctor "What's that thing hanging between my husbands legs?" The doctor replies "We call that the penis." The new bride then asks "What's that reddish/purple thing on the end of the penis?" The doctor replies "We call that the head of the penis." The bride then asks "What are those 2 round things about 15 inches from the head of the penis?" The doctor replies "Lady, on him I don't know, but on me they're the cheeks of my ass!"
[ 28.02.2006, 06:33: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Just a friendly word to say that in a small percentage of women, Teh Pill can be evil. If after a few months you start to notice that you're feeling more depressed than usual (or even suicidal), losing your hair or not feeling very sociable, it might be a good idea to seek other forms of contraception. It can screw up your hormonal balance, you see. Your doctor will deny that Teh Pill is the cause of your problems, but * thousands of women have suffered from them.
You'll probably be fine, though.
MiscFiles Womens Issues Correspondent Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
I just got told with the flutter of eyelashes and a fart waving hand that doctors don't log medical records incorrectly and was sent on my way. Currently, I wouldn't let a doctor make me a slice of toast as there is a worrying epidemic of a lot of them flouting the 'wash your hands you fucking cretin' hygiene drive. The clerks have ears.
In fact: case in hand, my friend had a proper lumpy penis and went to the doctors. The doctor examines said lumpdick, then sits back at his desk without washing his hands. I upset my friend by asking 'I wonder how many other cocks he touched before yours?'
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
So basically, you are going to turn into a crazy bitch, but not before some quack has rubbed their cock riddled cooties all over you. Good luck honey! Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
Do not under any circumstances whatsoever in the slightest let the fuckers give you microgynan. Unless you want to get fat and totally lose your sex drive and disappear into a bottomless pit of despond. If you do want to get fat and totally lose your sex drive and disappear into a bottomless pit of despond, then go right ahead.
Last time I went to my doctor I asked him to change my pill because it was fucking up my hormones. He replied that this was what it was supposed to do. Helpful.
[ 28.02.2006, 06:44: Message edited by: Louche ]
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Louche: Do not under any circumstances whatsoever in the slightest let the fuckers give you microgynan.
Snap! Microgynon 30, I believe. Well it wasn't me that was taking it, obviously. Seems like that's not Teh only Pill that causes the problems though.
quote:Last time I went to my doctor I asked him to change my pill because it was fucking up my hormones. He replied that this was what it was supposed to do. Helpful.
That's more helpful than Kellifer's doctor. At least your was honest, rather than just saying "It's not the pill. It can't be." Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
I've just been to the Hospital this morning, my second visit in as many weeks and I have at least three more in the next month or so as well. This morning was about some minor surgery, but thanks to Dutch bureaucracy, I have to get permission from my insurance company for some cream to asssist the process before they will go ahead with the procedure.
The Dutch method of GP Healthcare is 'rest cures all' - a friend of mine collapsed with a dangerously high temperature, and her boyfriend was advised to just send her to bed and give her paracetemol - it was only a threat of violence, something uncanny of this person, but understandable in his state of panic that got her an appointment and treatment. I myself was rushed to the doctor with lumbago which is so painful I could not breath - his advice? Play football. I can't breathe and am in exscrutiating pain, and he wants me to go play kickabout in the park. I think it is just a more apathetic method of healthcare, which is bizarre in a country with so many people receiving government support whilst "on the sick" - it seems those that need it can't get it, and those that are faking it are just given it to make them go away - utterly ridiculous.
Thankfully now I have a doctor trained by the BMA who is more than wonderful, and who will refer me without any hassle. However he is still telling me my liver is knackered and to continue not drinking, so he's not that good.
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
What about the injections ?
(Birth control that is, not hot pork)
would they be better ?
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
quote:Originally posted by Darryn.R: What about the injections ?
Irreversible hormone hell.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
Did you get fat because of all the Microgynan Bamba?
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
quote:Originally posted by Darryn.R: What about the injections ?
Depends if you regard psychotic mood swings as a plus or minus. Or so I hear.
Sorry to hear about your liver Waynster, I have concerns in that area myself.
[ 28.02.2006, 07:12: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
The only time I've been to the doctors in the last decade is to get a couple of moles removed. As I kept moving around and out of the country, I ended up seeing about 4 GPs. One way or the other, they all asked me if I wanted to go on the Pill, it was like they were on commission. Very odd.
I won't stay on it if the sex disappears, anyhow.
Urgh, doctors receptionists. Scary ladies. I bet they run a book on what people are in seeing the doctor for.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by Boy Racer:
quote:Originally posted by Darryn.R: What about the injections ?
Depends if you regard psychotic mood swings as a plus or minus. Or so I hear.
This chick I really really fancied at university was on the injections, and she did have psychotic mood swings. Anyway, despite a sustained campaign of trying to bed her for about two years she just would not leave her boyfriend - I mean they broke up a couple of times but she wouldn't have anything to do with me in the meantime. They got married a couple of years back and are trying to have kids, except it turns out that he's - you know - a Jaffa. So she went through all that horribleness with the contraception for NOTHING. And now she wants kids, and can't have them LOL LOOKS LIKE YOU BACKED THE WRONG HORSE HUNNEY! NOTHING WRONG WITH MY SPERM HAH!
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: [ LOL LOOKS LIKE YOU BACKED THE WRONG HORSE HUNNEY! NOTHING WRONG WITH MY SPERM HAH!
How do you know? Have you checked them out under the microscope you got with "A Child's First Chemistry Set" from Christmas 1989?
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: So she went through all that horribleness with the contraception for NOTHING.
I was going to say 'I hope you catch something nasty to teach you a lesson' and then I was wracked with really painful guilt in case you did. It hurts.
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by Darryn.R: What about the injections ?
(Birth control that is, not hot pork)
would they be better ?
Urgh, rather not, thanks.
Posted by Kellifer (Member # 187) on :
Many women are just fine on the pill. I'm definitely not one of them. It sounds quite extreme to say it, but synthetic hormones have ruined the last three years of my life.
I’m not going to go into it all as I could write a novel about how shit it has all been for me and Misc, but if you don’t want to be in amongst the 10-15% that the following side effects happen to, I’d keep well away.
Nausea, The doctors, tell you to stick with it through this until your body settles into its new robotic stylings. It may improve after three months, if it doesn’t they will likely recommend a different synthetic.
Headaches, Same as above, but watch out for focal migraines.
Mood Swings, The term mood swings really doesn’t cut it. Try rollercoaster of unpredictable emotional trauma.
Depression, This one is so far down the list of side effects that are written on the pamphlet which comes with your pill, you probably won’t think anything of it. This is exactly why I wanted to abandon Misc, or kill myself depending on how close I was to my period. It actually gets better the week before your period, because you aren’t putting the poison pill in that week in order to give yourself a fake period. It also gets much worse the longer you take the pill and increases when you stop taking it until you find a way out of the withdrawal. I’m still trying to find my way out.
Anxiety or Panic Attacks, Personal experience as it effects everyone differently. I found it difficult to go out and was very paranoid about anything going wrong, fainting, emotional outbursts be they anger or tears and hot/cold flushes. I still can’t go out shopping alone as I get panicky in the queue and have to leave and go for a walk to calm down. The anxiety is still a problem now, though much more manageable. Sometimes I get panicky when someone comes round to visit and have developed what they call Social Anxiety Disorder, which has meant a very difficult and limited social life.
Loss of Libido, There has been some research into this area, which is why doctors might change your pill for this reason. Birth control pills can decrease your libido, making sex a major issue. So much so, that you become repulsed by the idea of it, or even physically unable, due to soreness etc. You have to have a really patient and understanding partner to get through this without upset. In that case at least I am very lucky.
Paranoia, This is not only linked to the anxiety, but has left me with a sense of not knowing who I am. Feeling numb to the world and everything around you and not recognising yourself in the mirror or your loved ones. It is a very isolating experience.
These are the more common side effects, you can add weight gain, hair loss, recurring yeast and bladder infections and in the worst case scenario the overwhelming urge to kill yourself and save everyone the bother.
As I said at first, this doesn’t happen to everyone, but there is a good chance that synthetic hormones increase your chances of cancer and heart disease in the long run and should you take it for a long period of time you may find it difficult to get your cycles back to normal. Meaning the misery and expense of fertility problems in the future.
My doctor didn’t think the pill could be doing any of this; she ignored my then suicidal depression and tried to fob me off with beta blockers for the anxiety she believed was due to migraines. I have been muddling through on my own with the help of Google, the forum Misc discreetly linked to above, and support of friends family and most of all Misc, who I couldn’t be without.
After quitting Microgynon 30 eight months ago, I’m still trying to put myself back together. Charting your cycles is very useful. I tried Vitex to restore my hormonal imbalances and had a bad reaction to that too. Now I’m hoping that my remaining issues are due to the serotonin depletion caused by the pill and that I’ll be better than my old self if the 5HTP supplements work.
You can further research these issues on the net, the doctors seem to have an understanding with pharmaceutical companies to push the pill on women and avoid unwanted pregnancy, I have found them to be of little help. When you really think about how the pill works, preventing ovulation month after month and altering your physical and mental chemistry to think that is okay, it seems a wonder to me that it works for anyone.
Sorry I haven’t been around here more often. This post explains why.
Oh and natural progesterone cream would probably increase your boob size without all the above misery. It is also supposed to help with PMS, might be worth researching.
edit: Sorry I can't do html anymore either. I don't think that is pill related though.
[ 28.02.2006, 08:45: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kellifer: Birth control pills can decrease your libido, making sex a major issue. So much so, that you become repulsed by the idea of it.
Don't blame everything on the pill. The majority of women are repulsed by the idea of having sex with me.
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
That sucks K, sorry to hear that you've gone through such a rough time When you manage to get back to something approaching an even keel we'll have to hook up for a drink, really has been ages since I last saw you guys.
Posted by turbo (Member # 593) on :
I can second (third?) the Microgynon warning. Evil stuff that gave me an extra stone in weight, eradicated my libido and gave me a 4-month period. Nice. Also, it doesn't necessarily give you massive knockers. After years of many different Pills, I have now got the Mirena coil which I love. You still ovulate with it, which is probably why I feel so normal.
ETA: Bloody hell Keliffer, that is a total horror story. So sorry to know what you've been through and I hope you "normalise" very soon.
[ 28.02.2006, 09:00: Message edited by: turbo ]
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
quote:Originally posted by Kellifer: Birth control pills can decrease your libido, making sex a major issue. So much so, that you become repulsed by the idea of it.
Don't blame everything on the pill. The majority of women are repulsed by the idea of having sex with me.
Heh. Well, actually, this was more or less what I was going to post about when I was newer. I wanted to know if anybody had been on the pill and come off, because this is what I'll do in a couple of months' time when partner has had a certain operation.
I've been on Microgynon 30 for about 6 years now, and I have very low libido, but hey, T'uther Aff is brilliant and I like spending time with him anyway, so things are fine.
But it would be kind of nice if I got the horn for him as much as he does for me.
Right. Now I'm going to take a deep breath and hit Add Reply. Anyone take the piss out of me for this and they're dead.
[tap]Add Reply[/tap]
Edit: Oh, hang on, I also had a doctor joke (No really, but it would actually raise the tone a little after what I've written above):
A man goes to the doctor's and says, "Doctor, I keep getting these headaches. I'm nauseous half the time, and I get short of breath if I walk more than 100 yards."
So the doctor says, "Do you masturbate very often?"
So the man says, "Occasionally."
So the doctor says, "Fantastic, isn't it?"
[ 28.02.2006, 08:59: Message edited by: Purple Monkey Dishwasher ]
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
Congratulations on your partners snip!
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
Hmm, one of the more dedicated gestures I've received from a lover, that's for sure!
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
The NHS hands out microgynan like they're sweets because it's the cheapest. It also has fucked up the quality of life of every woman I've known who has taken it - though not all to quite the extent of Kellifer who sounds like she's had the shitest time in the history of the world ever. Seeing as you're going on the pill because you're getting some it would be supreme irony if you took one which causes Death to Libido in the majority of women who take it.
I'd recommend holding out for Cilest or Ovrannette, but I mean, it depends how you take to it and all.
Also, have you an email address I can email you on, VP? I want for to ask you something
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
Let me add myself to the list of pill-haters. Maybe it's such an effective contraceptive because you don't actually want to do sex. Veep - get yourself a bulk buy of durex. And don't listen to any of that 'socks in the bath' shit. Has he ever had a bath in his socks?
As for doctor stories, none as such. But I have had a mare with NHS bureaucracy with my recent 'troubles'. When I was pregnant I was seen by the midwife from Whipps Cross hospital. When I had the miscarriage I was admitted to Whipps Cross hospital. So it was not unreasonable of me to assume that some kind of system existed to tell the midwife department what had happened. But no, it would seem that none of the gazillion forms I filled in actually has any bearing on any database, as yesterday someone from the midwife dept phoned me up telling me off for not coming to my 13-week scan. I told her why not, and she then told me off for not having told them. Why the fark should I? Is it my job to ease their administration? They're only one floor up from the miscarriage bit... GODD.
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
quote:Originally posted by herbs: I told her why not, and she then told me off for not having told them. Why the fark should I? Is it my job to ease their administration? They're only one floor up from the miscarriage bit... GODD.
That really is shite, you should do the fully snotty letter demanding an apology bit Hoibs, or you could sell your story to the tabloids, they love their front page 'outrageous NHS incompetence!' stories Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
Dude. This:
quote: Originally posted by Kellifer:When you really think about how the pill works, preventing ovulation month after month and altering your physical and mental chemistry to think that is okay, it seems a wonder to me that it works for anyone.
....is about as true as it gets. I've been on four pills in my life, and have never experienced anything other than weight gain, total disappearance of sex drive, paranoia, painful periods, and depression that in one case was so severe it kick-started a 3-year self abuse habit that miraculously vanished overnight when I came off the pill. Until I tried the next one, that is.
It's basically a daily dose of 'fuck you' for the balance that your body has spent about 25 (?) years perfecting. I know you didn't ask for advice, but my two cents: stick with the condoms until you're sure. Besides - if you start with the pill and then come off it if things don't work out, the short term hormone intake plays long-term havoc with your body and your head.
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
Bloody hell. 5/6 women recommend staying as far away from the pill as is humanly possible.
(Also, to add: using condoms quite often promotes larger quantities of some of the more entertaining areas of sex in order to avoid faffing about with latex. Read: hours, and hours, of head. For you, that is.)
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Happy 2,500 Scrawny! Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
Poor Vogon starts thread probably hoping to get whimsical medical related anecdotes and gets angst ridden anti-pill venom instead. Excellent.
Poor Vogon. Not poo Vogon.
[ 28.02.2006, 09:20: Message edited by: Louche ]
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
I'm kind of proud that whilst other people were using their landmark posts to announce the birth of their children, I was extolling the virtues of one particular method of contraception and detailing the ways in which it can facilitate really selfish sex with no risk of impregnation. Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Does anyone know of a good tongue piercing expert in the Thames Valley?
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
Obviously best form of contraception is the rhythm method, or Vatican lottery. As well as being completely chemical-free, it doesn't involve faffing around with unreliable condoms, while the ensuing white knuckle ride of is-she/isn't-she means the exhiliration of the event carries on for up to two weeks after the shag actually took place.
Personally I can't use condoms because - eh - they don't fit. Durex are the worst - they're way too tight around the base to the point of cutting off circulation. Not only breathtakingly painful, it also means that even wince-sex is out of the question. A friend of mine had the same problem, and suggested that Mates might be uh better fit. They're easier to get started with, but they still rip under the strain eventually.
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
Agreed on the Microgynon front - was on it for six years, felt totally unhorny. Thought it was just effects of being in a long-term relationship. Came off it and found that wasn't the case. It's not just sexual desire it messes with though, it's sexual response. Like I just thought I was one of those people who aren't into their tits being played with. Then I came off the pill and realised that wasn't the case; it was more like the pill had made my whole skin just all sort of numb and bored-feeling. Coming off it was like becoming alive again.
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
Jesus, London, really?
How long after you came off the pill was that?
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
Farkinell. I've never liked the idea of taking medication for the sake of it, but as pretty much all of my mates seem to have been on the pill since they were 16 or so, I had no idea it was so hasslesome.
A mate with two kids told me she had the new style coil, and although it hurt as much as labour having it put in, she's really happy with it.
Perhaps Putney Bloke will lose interest, and then I won't have to worry about it.
Edit: Louche, my email is "oohandbag" at the old hotmail.
[ 28.02.2006, 09:49: Message edited by: Vogon Poetess ]
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Don't bother with contraceptives. Just have loads of babies. Go on. I dare you.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
Herbs, I think that's an appalling way to be treated and agree with Physic that you should complain.
I don't know whether it would be of any sort of consolation to you, but you might make a bit of a difference to how others are treated - even if the incompetence is to continue, it might at least be mitigated by people acting at though they're sorry rather than 'blaming' the patient, ffs.
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
quote:Originally posted by Black Mask: Don't bother with contraceptives. Just have loads of babies. Go on. I dare you.
Or learn to love a bit of backdoor action..
I guess if you're willing to go bareback in the front then it's just getting preggers that's the issue and not the bad AIDS, so bum fun seems a easy solution.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
She is fucking someone from Putney, though. So, Bad Aids is a definite risk.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
On the plus side, if she had a baby with Aids she'd get a ground-floor flat with a garden, disability allowance and a taxi card.
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
Cheers VP if you wanted to edit that fairly innocuous email out.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: Herbs, I think that's an appalling way to be treated and agree with Physic that you should complain.
I don't know whether it would be of any sort of consolation to you, but you might make a bit of a difference to how others are treated - even if the incompetence is to continue, it might at least be mitigated by people acting at though they're sorry rather than 'blaming' the patient, ffs.
That's not the half of it. I've already written an official complaint about other stuff they did. It's been gr9.
Posted by Kellifer (Member # 187) on :
I've heard a lot of horror stories, be they emotional or physical side effects... people in hospital with heart palpatations struggling to breathe, women walking out on marriages and their family, because they don't fit in their lives anymore. In my experience taking synthetic hormones can be fatal, yet the doctorbs in the most part, brush it off like lint. Maybe the reason more women don't tell their doctors that they are having 'pill trouble' and cause a mass outcry is because they have all topped themselves.
Somehow I felt it wouldn't be a popular complaint here, hence never coming forward to share my experience with you guys. Like Scrawny, I'm shocked by the 5/6 majority so far. The pill is supposed to give women a more convenient sex life with more equality with men's attitude to sex; shame it destroys libido and most other areas of your life in the process. I wonder how many doctors are on Microgynon 30?
If you want a safe and less soul destroying birth control, try the fertility awareness method. If there is any sign of libido, then you can chart your cycle to know when you have ovulated and then have as much sticky birth-control free sex as you like. Before the ovulation point I think condoms are the best option, but definitely not synthetic shite of any kind. Trojans are apparently good if you are hung like Kong.
Thanks for your kind words. I hope normal returns soon and I may come to a meat and can get completely drunk on my first glass of wine in about a year.
Herbs, I'm sorry to hear about your 'troubles'. Write a letter of complaint for sure, or put the firey dog shit through their door. The way they treated you was absolutely disgusting and the person who told you off should be struck off in my opinion.
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
quote:Originally posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher: Jesus, London, really?
How long after you came off the pill was that?
Everything just slowly returned to normal over the next couple of months. I'd definitely recommend trying other methods - we used the 'persona' thing and condoms, so still got a bit of bareback fun, but without risk of pregnancy. You have to be kind of responsible about it and make sure you *do* use the condoms when it tells you you should, but for me it was way better than being on the pill. If you're bored and unhorny I'd say give up the pill for a bit... your quality of (sex) life will almost certainly improve.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kellifer: doctorbs
LOL - Is the b for bargain?
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
quote:Originally posted by Kellifer: doctorbs
LOL - Is the b for bargain?
No. They're doctors who specialise in tits.
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
Boots have a 2for1 deal on Durex at the moment everyone.
Everyone apart from Thorn.
[ 28.02.2006, 10:09: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
Posted by Sidney (Member # 399) on :
quote:Originally posted by Louche: Do not under any circumstances whatsoever in the slightest let the fuckers give you microgynan.
Seconded. The one and only time I tried the pill, I was given Microgynan. It is evil in a blister packet. Do not accept it.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
This thread is Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
It certainly is. It's so typical of women to make such a big song and dance about having to take a silly little tablet.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Black Mask: It certainly is. It's so typical of women to make such a big song and dance about having to take a silly little tablet.
Erm there is always the risk of pregnancy, whatever form of contraception you use. Failure rates just vary depending on the method.
Whilst I am sorry for all the women on the pill here who had a bad time just to add a little balance I was on Depo (the injection) on and off for about 7 years and I had absolutely no problems at all, no weight gain, no moods, no periods. It was fantastic frankly, maybe I was one of the few lucky ones but I'd go back on it with no hesitation. If you haven't had problems with the pill in the past then it might be worth considering.
Also VP as a side note, I take it you've both already had tests etc to ensure you're both clean enough to give up condoms?
[ 28.02.2006, 10:16: Message edited by: Gemini ]
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Gemini, earlier today.
[ 28.02.2006, 10:25: Message edited by: Black Mask ]
Posted by Kellifer (Member # 187) on :
quote:Originally posted by Black Mask: It certainly is. It's so typical of women to make such a big song and dance about having to take a silly little tablet.
Sorry, BM. My dance about having to take the fucking huge natural supplements as a corrective measure is even better. When the libido returns I may even get my b for boobs out for it.
To be honest though, Misc has suffered because of all this pill stuff a lot too. It may be the woman taking it, but it is a little naive to think that your partner isn't going through the ringer with you.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kellifer: ...going through the ringer with you.
Thinking of following Darryn's advice then, dear? Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by London:
quote:Originally posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher: Jesus, London, really?
How long after you came off the pill was that?
Everything just slowly returned to normal over the next couple of months. I'd definitely recommend trying other methods - we used the 'persona' thing and condoms, so still got a bit of bareback fun, but without risk of pregnancy. You have to be kind of responsible about it and make sure you *do* use the condoms when it tells you you should, but for me it was way better than being on the pill. If you're bored and unhorny I'd say give up the pill for a bit... your quality of (sex) life will almost certainly improve.
Sounds promising. I've only got another few months on Microgynon though, so might just stick with it until then, for all the asexual boredom at least it does what it says on the tin.
Posted by Kellifer (Member # 187) on :
When you do the laundry once in a while and your own ironing, negotiations may be entered into.
Stop chateing on VP's important thread.
Posted by Toilet Duck (Member # 801) on :
quote:Originally posted by Darryn.R: What about the injections ?
(Birth control that is, not hot pork)
would they be better ?
I have the jab and think it's the best thing that's ever happened to me (apart from Mr Duck). I would only recommend it for someone who gets along okay with the pill though, as if it doesn't suit you you're stuck with the effects for 3 months (depo-provera) or 1 month (the other one). Try the pill first if you can - if you have no problems, consider switching if you feel like it after a while. I have no periods: no pain, no mess and no runaway hormones unless I miss a jab.
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
quote:Originally posted by Gemini: Also VP as a side note, I take it you've both already had tests etc to ensure you're both clean enough to give up condoms?
Well, nothing's been near my mimsy except M&S cotton gussets for the past 6 years, so I don't think I need to be prodded and poked.
Do people really ask this of new shags?
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
*giggle*
Roses are red, Violets are blue, I have chlamydia, And now so do you. Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Just a sniff of his cock should be sufficient.
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
there's no outward sign for chlamydia, and chicks can carry it about giving it dudes without knowing that they have it. When I had it, it was pretty fucking obvious something was wrong.. 'burning sensation' didn't do it justice. And I sometimes get pains that I never used to get, around the top of my thighs, even though the thing has cleared up now. Be careful out there kids!
Posted by Gemini (Member # 428) on :
quote:Originally posted by Vogon Poetess:
quote:Originally posted by Gemini: Also VP as a side note, I take it you've both already had tests etc to ensure you're both clean enough to give up condoms?
Well, nothing's been near my mimsy except M&S cotton gussets for the past 6 years, so I don't think I need to be prodded and poked.
Do people really ask this of new shags?
first bit edited because it's really noneofmybusiness.
I don't ask I just refuse to sleep with them condomless until tests have been had.
[ 28.02.2006, 11:08: Message edited by: Gemini ]
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
also, to counter these stories about the pill, I went out with a piece of ass that got way more horny on the pill than off it. I mean, she was a fucking nut most of the time, but in the sack, she was like an animal. Hope that helps, VP!
[ 28.02.2006, 10:53: Message edited by: Kanye West ]
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
Any particular reason why it should, "dude"?
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
hey, I'm sharing here.
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
Hmm. Sounds like you really had some respect for this girl, too.
Posted by Toilet Duck (Member # 801) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kanye West: there's no outward sign for chlamydia, and chicks can carry it about giving it dudes without knowing that they have it. When I had it, it was pretty fucking obvious something was wrong.. 'burning sensation' didn't do it justice. And I sometimes get pains that I never used to get, around the top of my thighs, even though the thing has cleared up now. Be careful out there kids!
Are you a boy? Because I thought chlamydia was a bigger deal in girls than boys. Which one's gonorrhea?
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
quote:Originally posted by Toilet Duck: Are you a boy?
y'all know you better be playin, dawg. I got chalmydia so bad that my little man felt like he'd been chewin on razor blades. I got some shit called non specific urethritis as a result, and that shit's nasty whether you a john or a trick.
[ 28.02.2006, 11:13: Message edited by: Kanye West ]
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
quote:Originally posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher: Hmm. Sounds like you really had some respect for this girl, too.
hey, the girl was crazy, whatever. You ask her, she'd tell you herself. Far as I know she had to come off the pill in the end, but it was a wild ride while it lasted.
Posted by Toilet Duck (Member # 801) on :
And in addition to my earlier post, now that I've actually read the read...
I was on Ovranette, not Microgynan. Started on Ovranette and stayed on it til I was told I shouldn't be taking the pill as I'm allergic to one of the ingredients.
Fertility is something to consider with the jab. When you stop being jabbed it can take up to a year to conceive, which can be a problem for people like me who start taking contraceptives to get rid of the enormous pains that left me drugged up to the eyeballs and still in so much pain I couldn't stand up for 36 hours a month.
My boobs are rather sore (in general, not specifically now). I hate having them played with, but I don't know for certain whether this is contraception-related or not. I do have Bravissimo-girl boobs, but they run in my family so I doubt that there's much influence from the contraception. Is a possibility though.
I have virtually no libido at the moment. Well, I sometimes feel quite horny, but I'm never in the mood. We have a size issue which makes sex painful at the best of times though, and when combined with anxiety and depression it's also difficult to say what is responsible for this.
I also suggest that any more comments like Black Mask's should result in the pinning down and force-feeding of progesterone to the offender Posted by Toilet Duck (Member # 801) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kanye West:
quote:Originally posted by Toilet Duck: Are you a boy?
y'all know you better be playin, dawg. I got chalmydia so bad that my little man felt like he'd been chewin on razor blades. I got some shit called non specific urethritis as a result, and that shit's nasty whether you a john or a trick.
Please tell me you're a troll.
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
don't make me testify!
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kanye West:
quote:Originally posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher: Hmm. Sounds like you really had some respect for this girl, too.
hey, the girl was crazy, whatever. You ask her, she'd tell you herself. Far as I know she had to come off the pill in the end, but it was a wild ride while it lasted.
Which of course is the ideal reason to call her a nut. How unkind can you get?
And I really would think twice about calling your lurgy, chlamydia.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by Toilet Duck: Please tell me you're a troll.
No I really think that it is Kanye West posting about his sexual health problems.
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
straight up.
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
I think Kanye West is American.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
quote:Originally posted by Toilet Duck: Please tell me you're a troll.
No I really think that it is Kanye West posting about his sexual health problems.
lol
Posted by Kira (Member # 826) on :
hey,
late to the debate as always
VP just to echo the other tmo femmes; I came off the pill for the first time, in like 10 years, 2 years ago.
When started taking them I put on about a stone a half and went up a dress size within a couple of years.
I totally agree with the 'physically repulsed' by sex thing, although its a toss up as to whether this was entirely the pill or if in part it was also due to my ex being the dirty, unclean little shit that he was...
Since stopping the pill the weight has dropped off and now the only problem with sex is not getting any...
I have been on Microgynan and Marvelon. I did look into a coil when I came off the pill but was told that unless you've had children, GP's on thw whole, wont fit you with a coil.
personally I would rather use Condoms than go back to the pill, plus they do all sorts of different ones. You can get minty sensation ones they're quite good, and the sensation ones which have nobbly bits on them...
*edited 3 times for clarity and finickitiness*
[ 28.02.2006, 17:24: Message edited by: Kira ]
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
Weirdly, though the UK has the most widespread use of the Pill in Europe, we also have the highest rate of teenage pregnancies. By contrast, the country where coitus interruptus is the most widely used form of birth control (Italy) is also the one with the lowest birth rate.
Surely the solution to all these problems is staring us in the facial.
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
Hmmm, well, I got put on the FemDeath 3000 pill. I brought up all the side effects mentioned here, but was told that the reason it's the most widely prescribed (other than it's the cheapest) is because it is generally ok for most women, and it wouldn't be so widely used if the majority experienced such problems. So I will try it for a month and see. I guess I will be hypersensitive to any weirdness following the stories I've heard.
I'm probably being completely presumptious anyhow, as I'm only having a bit of casual fun that may well not last. He hasn't emailed me since yesterday lunchtime, so according to Handbag it's all over anyway.
So here's to becoming fat, mad and sexually dead, after waiting yearsnyears for a bit of jiggy jiggy. Hurrah! I'm guessing they'll use the "oh you'll change your mind when you're older" line if I request getting me tubes tied. Innit great being a womb-man?
Edit *small spazz voice* do I really just take the bit of paper and wave it at the pharmacy lady in Boots? Is it free? Will even teeny tiny railway station Boots have it?
[ 01.03.2006, 04:44: Message edited by: Vogon Poetess ]
Posted by LowLevel (Member # 30) on :
quote:Originally posted by Gemini: I was on Depo (the injection)
Fuck-ing-hell... That stuff very nearly became the death of me.
Mrs Level was taking it for nearly a year after Gangster-Girl No.1 was born, I was working away a lot of the time and assumed that the depression, psychotic mood swings and general frigidness were related to that, with a soupcon of Post-Natal-Depression...
But the clincher, the real badger on the cake, was when she went for me with a carving knife...
Now, this was scarier than it would have been normally as the Lowlevel family's self-defense training regime has a chapter on 'Improvised weapons that you might find lying around the house if you were, for instance, being burgled' - And the carving knife is fairly high up that list, and my wife knows one or two tricks that are not completely culinary in nature.
I did have to cause her some fairly major discomfort (Yes, just discomfort) to get her to drop it and not want to pick it up again.
After this episode she did a great deal of research on T'internet and found many, many, websites that all seemed to say things like:
Depo made me try to kill my husband
Depo turned me into a complete loon
I drove my car off a bridge on a Depo low
I thought nothing was wrong until I abandoned my family and turned to heroin
She came off it pretty damn sharpish five years ago - Her periods still haven't settled down into any real regularity and she is still a slave to depression. But at least her sex drive has returned, and occasionally she even smiles.
Veeps, don' do it...
Ahh... Toooooo Laaaaaate.... Toooooooo Laaaaaate
[ 01.03.2006, 04:52: Message edited by: LowLevel ]
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
It's time to facial the music.
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
VP: four months maximum even if you think you're fine with it. It's the creeping death microgynan. You don't think it's doing anything. You just think you're generally a bit low. You think you might have had one too many cheese sarnies. You think it's just the time of year and you don't really fancy sex. Then you come off the motherfucker and discover that your nipples work.
Anyway, everywhere will have it and it's free. Though I have a rant about that that I might have in a bit if I can be arsed. Hand the paper to the nice lady and start with the hell on earth. Best of British.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
I have to admit, during the three years I was going out with VP, she did show all the all the above symptoms - recklessly aggressive behaviour swooping down into morose depression, bouts of sobbing, angsty poetry, and a distinct lack of interest in sex. At the time I thought it was just me (actually - I thought it was just her), but this does throw some light on the matter. I'm suprised she's willing to return to the nightmare, though.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
She wasn't on the pill, though, now I think about it.
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
it's true that most of the symptoms being described in this thread could also be the result of going out with jerks.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
It's true. I'm a jerk and I've known a few chubby, moody and frigid girls. There's a connection fo sure.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
Armed with these new insights, NWoD, you can facial the future with confidence.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
Ben, for god's sake - no-one's laughing. Every time you make that joke it's like a slap in the f
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
I can't help it - my brain fused when I tried to think of a serviceable gag incorporating puns on bukkake and protein-rich Optrex. Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Is that pronounced boo-car-kay or buck-ache?
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
quote:Originally posted by New Way Of Decay: Boo-ka-kee
byou-car-key if you're posh boo-cacky if you're not
ETA: When trying to figure out how to spell the word bukkake phonetically, it's best not to repeatedly mouth the word over and over again. This is particularly true when your colleague's desk faces your own.
[ 01.03.2006, 06:54: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
Are you implying I'm not a posh nosh Misc? Because when I go off, it makes a noise like a cash register opening up for the most lucrative sale of the day.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by New Way Of Decay: Are you implying I'm not a posh nosh Misc? Because when I go off, it makes a noise like a cash register opening up for the most lucrative sale of the day.
I reckon you're almost as posh as Carter.
*cher-ching*
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
quote:Originally posted by New Way Of Decay: Are you implying I'm not a posh nosh Misc? Because when I go off, it makes a noise like a cash register opening up for the most lucrative sale of the day.
[Mike Read Circa 1974] I shagged the posh bird once - she was so posh as she got off, she announced I'm Arriving![/Mike Read Circa 1974]
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
quote:Originally posted by New Way Of Decay: Are you implying I'm not a posh nosh Misc? Because when I go off, it makes a noise like a cash register opening up for the most lucrative sale of the day.
Tastes like Caviar ?
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Oysters and champagne, pearl necklaces, etc.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
I remember posting a picture of an XXXtremely hott girl aaages ago and someone said 'ergh, I wouldn't, she's kneeling on a dirty carpet' and I want to remember who it was.
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
I don't think that it was me. who said it. not doing the kneeling.
(anyway)
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
Maybe it was Thorn "I'd do Kerry Katona in the arse but wouldn't eat any food she'd prepared" Davies?
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
quote:Originally posted by New Way Of Decay: I remember posting a picture of an XXXtremely hott girl aaages ago and someone said 'ergh, I wouldn't, she's kneeling on a dirty carpet' and I want to remember who it was.
Wasn't that the thin girl with the untidy room ? From the Motorola Razr advert where she puts on tight jeans ?
I said her carpet was dirty - dirty carpet, filthy flange..
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
i posted up teh hello moto tv ad featuring hott chick grunting into skinny jeans, and somebody said 'look how filthy her flat is'.
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
i think it was me what posted it anyway.
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
oh daz mentioned it already
+++ here it is. right, i am hungover to shit and gotta go hurt my brain now. 8
[ 01.03.2006, 07:45: Message edited by: vikram ]
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
I'm trying to hunt a picture of her down now. It's proving fruitless. Apparently she is doing Burlesque dancing and trapeze work and wants to use one of my songs, which would be gr9, but she is impossibble to get hold of.
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by New Way Of Decay: she is doing ...trapeze work ... she is impossible to get hold of.
Probably because she's swinging about on a trapeze.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
I see what you did there. It was good.
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
Why, thank you.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: my brain fused when I tried to think of a serviceable gag
Yeah, it's called a gag reflex
Posted by turbo (Member # 593) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kira: I did look into a coil when I came off the pill but was told that unless you've had children, GP's on thw whole, wont fit you with a coil.
That is a thing of the past. The old skool coils were even agonising for women who had had 11 kids. However, we now have the Mirena coil, which is a tiny little thing and my GP has been trying to get me to use it for years whereas I'm as childless as a childless person without children. Someone earlier on this thread said someone found it more painful than childbirth. Absolute bollocks. I'd be lying if I said it was a wonderful experience, but it wasn't any worse than uncomfortable. I also had a very annoying gyno who I wanted to kick in the teeth with my stirrupped feet, but that is by the by. In a nutshell, the Mirena coil is great.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by turbo: ...whereas I'm as childless as a childless person without children. Someone earlier on this thread said someone found it more painful than childbirth. Absolute bollocks.
Can anyone spot a slight problem with the logic here?
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
I saw that too, but as I like turbo, I decided to let it slide. Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
quote:Originally posted by turbo: Mirena coil is great.
This sounds like an extract from a students review of a Cheltenham goth band.
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
also on a music tip, when i am feeling particularly happy about my contraceptive choice i like to dance around the room singing 'duh- nuh- nuh- nuh, DUH DUH NUH NUH, duh nuh nuh nuh nuh- MY MIRENA!'
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
That means nothing to me.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
We're doing Ultravox right?
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
it's My Sharona, by The Knack. Philistine.
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
Well, my mate who has had two kids said that having the coil fitted was as painful as labour. Obviously I'm assuming she meant the pain was as intense as a contraction, but without lasting several hours. But she's very happy with it now.
Is it sad to feel a little bit excited about taking a contraceptive prescription to a pharmacy, as it's such a novelty and I feel more grown up somehow? Yes, it is.
Also, if this casual encounter evaporates, being single again will have some kind of solace (ie shagless but less fat and mad). Quite cunning, really.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
No, sorry the only contraceptive I can think of that is song related is to the tune of the Um Bongo advert.
Vp, why do you have such a growing concern he is going to stop seeing you? I'm convinced there are plenty of hot menz who want to fuck you on a pile of teddy bears. At least for more than a few weeks. I just don't understand. I can't understand.
[ 01.03.2006, 09:43: Message edited by: New Way Of Decay ]
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
maybe he's married.
[ 01.03.2006, 09:49: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
Once the ring is on the finger, taking a young philly over Cheer Bear loses it's appeal.
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
quote:Originally posted by New Way Of Decay: No, sorry the only contraceptive I can think of that is song related is to the tune of the Um Bongo advert.
Vp, why do you have such a growing concern he is going to stop seeing you? I'm convinced there are plenty of hot menz who want to fuck you on a pile of teddy bears. At least for more than a few weeks. I just don't understand. I can't understand.
Because it's practical to be pessimistic. What good ever came of being cheerful?
And they aren't teddy bears- my bed hosts a knitted Peter Rabbit, two other rabbits, a snow tiger, a fish, a kiwi and a kangaroo.
PS I don't get the Um Bongo. Unless you mean it scans the same as "a condom"? In that case, it doesn't rhyme with The Congo.
Posted by Toilet Duck (Member # 801) on :
quote:Originally posted by H1ppychick: it's My Sharona, by The Knack. Philistine.
No! It's The Chain by Fleetwood Mac.
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
dammit.
You're either a long-time-lurker, an oldbie in new shoes, or a troll. which is it?
Posted by Toilet Duck (Member # 801) on :
You guys are actually worrying me now. I've spent the last two and a half years fighting off anxiety and depression. Anti-dpressants are doing very little, and alternative rememdies are showing a general f**ked-upness of my body. I started on Ovranette when I was... 16 at a guess. I had killer period pains, and decided that either I go on the pill or I act as a surrogate to ease the pain. I've always been slightly detracted and melancholy, so as I started to gradually decline into full-on I didn't connect it to hormones. I finally snapped following an *incident*. The last set of anti-depressants left me suicidal twice, and this set are making me nauseous and very, very tired.
I am desperate to get my life back, so I'm opening the floor to the masses. Do I:
(a) speak to my doctor about the possibility when I go for a check up on Monday. I have a very understanding and caring doctor, who seems genuinely concerned by my spiralling illness, and I think he would take any such concerns seriously.
(b) simply not go in for my next jab. It's due in about a month. This would result in the excruciating pain coming back, and I may have to consider having children earlier than planned to control it.
(c) ask the kinesiologist. I've got an appointment on Saturday and she's done a lot more for me with one session than GPs and counselling have done for the past few years.
ETA: (d) Screw it. Assume they're unrelated, as there's more evidence to suggest no connection than connection.
[ 01.03.2006, 12:31: Message edited by: Toilet Duck ]
Posted by Toilet Duck (Member # 801) on :
quote:Originally posted by H1ppychick: dammit.
You're either a long-time-lurker, an oldbie in new shoes, or a troll. which is it?
Me? I'm a pre-Novembrite.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
quote:Originally posted by Vogon Poetess: PS I don't get the Um Bongo.
A condom, a condom, go stick-it-in the wrong one. Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
get out mickey.
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
what's that, an exhortation to MTV or a description of what you're doing?
sorry, i'm at a loose end hence have descended into making increasingly pitiful puns and 'gags'.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
quote:Originally posted by Vogon Poetess: PS I don't get the Um Bongo.
A condom, a condom, go stick-it-in the wrong one.
Dude. You didn't tell me you were writing a second verse for Bum Ringo.
Posted by Sidney (Member # 399) on :
quote:Originally posted by H1ppychick: it's My Sharona, by The Knack. Philistine.
I thought it was No Limits by 2 Unlimited.
Like when Mo Mowlam died, Raz said to me;
No Mo No No No Mo No No No Mo There's No Mowlam
I am ashamed to say that I laughed like a madder.
Posted by Kellifer (Member # 187) on :
quote:Originally posted by Toilet Duck: I am desperate to get my life back, so I'm opening the floor to the masses.
You may have already tried these things, and fortunately I don't have the agonizing periods you mentioned, so not sure how much use they would be, but here goes. They might help some of the symptoms.
Vitex, Agnus Castus, chasteberry, whatever you wish to call it, is meant to help in 90% of PMS cases. It works by naturally balancing your progesterone and estrogen levels and increasing dopamine by blocking prolactin receptors or some such medical babble.
If you take anti-depressants already, it may not go with them well. Most things don't go with BCPs or anti-depressants well, they don't even go well with themselves in a lot of cases. The Vitex helped me get more regular cycles for a month, then after the two months mark turned, I became suicidally depressed and quit it prety sharpish. Many women do okay with it, but watch how you feel closely if you decide to take it.
The other option I've looked into and am now giving a go, is 5HTP for serotonin depletion. Here is some info I dug up, if you want to take a look.
Good luck whatever you choose to do. If I ever get back to normal I'm not taking any more pills if I can help it. It's just not worth the misery. Condoms really aren't as intrusive as I previously thought; when you compare them to not really wanting to live, let alone shag.
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
I'm too not down with the Microgynon. Two months on it at 18 and I had all the mood swings, depression, weight gain etc although as an 8 stone speed freak it could be debatable I suppose. Apart from the weight gain, perhaps I ate a pie or something. Still, I came off the Microgynon (and started taking ecstasy) and things got better. Drug jokes aside, I also tried that Ovalette thing and Cymalon and both were as bad as Microgynon but Mercilon and I were friends for 8 years with no issues at all and may well become reacquainted in the future.
For a while I had the contraceptive implant which was amusing but I just found a year with no periods at all rather weird so had it removed.
Anyway, here's a doctor story for you. I've waited a year and a half for another referral to go back to see the doctor about the collapsed vein in my foot after a two year process seeing various different consultants, which resulted in me getting "lost in the system". Last Monday I phoned the hospital in advance to check the appointment time as the letter said 19:20 and I thought they must have meant 9:20 and made a typo but the very rude lady I spoke to assured me that it was 19:20 in the evening.
So yeah. Tonight I'm sat at home at 8pm, eating my dinner and reading this thread when I remember. My appointment. 19:20. Tonight. Fuxache.
[ 01.03.2006, 15:26: Message edited by: Uber Trick ]
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
Like a good girl, I read everything in the little leaflet that came with it (except the baby talk explanation of the female hormone cycle). Under possible side effects it lists weight gain, but phrases it something like "if you normally don't have problems with your weight, you are unlikely to gain any, but your appetite may increase, so watch what you eat." Which I guess translates as, "it's not the pill that makes you fat- it's your own greedy fault for eating too much, you lard-guzzling loser."
Also, I spoke to a uni mate who's been on the pill from 16-20 and from 22-28, and is currently on Microgynan with no problems, so it's not all doom and gloom.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
quote:Originally posted by Vogon Poetess: "it's not the pill that makes you fat- it's your own greedy fault for eating too much, you lard-guzzling loser."
DANGER VEEP ROBINSON. It might be the pill making you greedy. Posted by Kellifer (Member # 187) on :
As I said in my first post, (which Darryn kindly tidied up for me - Thanks Gunvnor.) Most women are fine on the pill. It is just that those who are negatively affected, are hit really hard with some horrible side effects.
It doesn't even seem to be genetic from my own experience, as my Mum was on Microgynon and had no problems with it, past a bit of PMT increase and wanting to kill my Dad a bit more; but then that's understandable if you'd met him. My Nan was on the pill fine for years too. My advice is just to watch how you feel closely, anything wierd and keep it in mind that it could be the pill to blame.
About the weight gain - I was overweight when I started it, as I settled into the hormone changes I was eating more because I was unknowingly at the time getting more depressed. I found that once I was governed by the synthetic hormones, it was near impossible to lose the weight. My hair and nails didn't grow as well as pre-pill either.
Having read a lot about serotonin and its connection to the pill recently, I think it is more due to its depletion that my body tells me to eat carbs, when I'm not even hungry as it is desparately trying to produce more happy beans for my brain. That and I like cakes of course. Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by New Way Of Decay: No, sorry the only contraceptive I can think of that is song related is to the tune of the Um Bongo advert.
Then clearly you've never heard the Coco Pops song:
My name's Coco and I live in a tree, I sell condoms for 25p. 25p, 25 bob, It all depends on the size of your knob. Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
that doesn't even work with the music!
well it kind of does. Apart from the last lines.
it should be "25p OR 25 bob"
and then maybe "AND it all depends on the size of you knob". Although that doesn't work, because the last line is explaining the reason for the price difference, so AND isn't really appropriate. You could fit 'BECAUSE' in there, so
25p or 25 bob, because it all depends on the size of your knob
That's not great either.
[ 02.03.2006, 08:44: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
You should listen to Benway. When it comes to monkey related rythms, he's your man.
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
25 Bob for a rubber johnny ! - That's £1.25
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: that doesn't even work with the music!
Are we thinking of the same tune? The old Coco Pops tune from the 80's or something.
[crappy explanation]You know what I mean![/crappy explanation]
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
quote:Originally posted by Darryn.R: 25 Bob for a rubber johnny ! - That's £1.25
I was in a corner shop in Manor House and a girl walked in, walked up to the counter and said 'one condom please' and I said 'do they sell them in singles?' as the guy behind the counter produced a condom and rang up a £1.00 through the till which she happily tossed over at him. The girl turned around, sang a 6 second soul soundbyte straight into my face and nearly skipped out. The guy behind the counter said 'she needs it, s....she needs it for work, you know?' with a sad expression on his face.
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
Hello, sorry I’m late. I was on holiday.
I have been on Femodene and then the Depo injection for years with no problems at all, but now I no longer have access to The Cock I might quit and see if I turn into some super-happy robo-woman with high functioning nipples.
Only that would mean missing an injection just before I go on holiday for 3 weeks...Is there likely to be any withdrawal madness?
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
Boyz of the forum - Abby of the high sexiest femme rating would appear to be single and lookin for some lovin' - is that correct, Abby of the high sexiest femme rating?
ETA: soz. not intended to be nasty.
[ 07.03.2006, 08:14: Message edited by: H1ppychick ]
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
I'm told Abby is so hot you could fry and egg on her stomach. However I have not seen her. I'd like to think she's as hott as I'm told but unless she sends me a picture I'll never know.
Naked and buttered would be a good start.
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
Thanks all of you for giving Thorn some extra wind-up fuel. He can now arch an eyebrow and say, "you didn't use to say things like that. Are you feeling...funny?" And will no doubt be able to say things like, "didn't you use to fit into that skirt?"
And Abby, you've quit "a cock" not The Cock, surely?
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
who is "The Cock"?
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
Have you got the cock? Girl I'm dying to be supplying some shake in your world
[ 07.03.2006, 09:01: Message edited by: New Way Of Decay ]
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
Oo err, you can see what she had for breakfast.
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
quote: And Abby, you've quit "a cock" not The Cock, surely?
Ah yes I suppose so. Anyway, answer the question dudes!
I don't have access to any acceptable photos on this PC - I only come out in black & white.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Abby: [QUOTE] I don't have access to any acceptable photos on this PC - I only come out in black & white.
buttered ? I can wait.
Posted by Kellifer (Member # 187) on :
Interesting article about Depo Provera, illustrating some hormonal contraceptive side effects.
Men on Depo. Posted by Toilet Duck (Member # 801) on :
I was so baffled as to why I was reading an essay on sex crimes for a while there.
I think it's unfair that they think sex offenders have paid their debt to society by spending some time in jail, and therefore shouldn't have to suffer the depo-provera. As far as I'm aware, I haven't done too much to offend society and have more than paid back any debt I owe in volunteer work. Yet I have to put up with depo-provera, unless I want to get pregnant now or have a hysterectomy so that I can never get pregnant. Yay.
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
Last night I was listening to Alice In Chains and moaning to my diary about boys. Is this how it begins?
Posted by Kellifer (Member # 187) on :
Well before the pill I used to write the odd page or two in my diary every couple of days. Once I started the Microgynon I spent most of every evening writing diary nonsense and feeling down on life. I filled one notebook in about a year pre-pill, it was therefore a big upgrade on misery to fill six in 18 months.
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
quote:Originally posted by Vogon Poetess: Last night I was listening to Alice In Chains and moaning to my diary about boys. Is this how it begins?
Have a quick twiddle with your nipples and see how that feels.
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
Fuck's sake.
Look - I know nobody on here knows me that well so what I'm about to write may sound like self-indulgent shit, but I'm going to write this somewhere because it's going around in my head, alright?
For the last few days I've felt like I'm drifting apart from my partner, that somehow we're not as close as we were. In this job I spend far more time travelling so I'm spending less time with him and I'm tired earlier in the evening. But I'm not sure that's what it is. He still shows me affection and loves me, I still feel a lot of love for him, but I've somehow felt really flat these last couple of days.
I can't wait to get off the pill and see if it's the cause of this. I don't know if it is or not. Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
If you suspect it might be, and given the grim stories from other people is it really worth keeping taking it for a 'few more months', why not just stop now?
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
quote:Originally posted by Louche: Have a quick twiddle with your nipples and see how that feels.
They're definitely still there, and I had a filthy thought earlier, involving a man.
It did make me think though, I mean Alice In Chains?
Posted by Doctor Agamemnon When (Member # 189) on :
quote:Originally posted by New Way Of Decay: The guy behind the counter said 'she needs it, s....she needs it for work, you know?' with a sad expression on his face.
Yeah. Those balloon modellers depress me, too.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
quote:Originally posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher: For the last few days I've felt like I'm drifting apart from my partner, that somehow we're not as close as we were. In this job I spend far more time travelling so I'm spending less time with him and I'm tired earlier in the evening. But I'm not sure that's what it is. He still shows me affection and loves me, I still feel a lot of love for him, but I've somehow felt really flat these last couple of days.
This suspect this is brainrot. Navel gazing is for losers. Have a rethink about what it is you're suggesting. You're drifting apart because your work involves travelling? You're more tired than usual so it puts a strain on your loved one? It's like when people say 'the distance killed it' NO. If people want something, they work at it. Isn't it about time us hue min beens stopped making excuses for our own apathy.
subtext: get off the pill and see how you feel.
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
PMD, why do you suspect that this is the pill which is doing this to you rather than other factors in your life and/or relationship?
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
interesting...
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
Right, I am totally going to not have my injection, but if I go mental it is YOUR FAULT. All of you.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
If you shag someone who is fitted with a coil, and you 'go deep', you can feel its whiskery piano wires tickling your bell, like the barbels of a bottom feeder searching for worms.
It's not as sexy as it sounds.
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
It doesn't sound that sexy.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
It deosnt't sound at all sexy. And, believe me, it's still worse than it sounds.
[ 10.03.2006, 09:15: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
Abby, I've only been posting occasionally so am rather out of the loop, but why exactly are you not having your injection? I mean, apart from absence of a regular cocking which I gather from above posts. Have you had any issues with your injections, any other reasons for concern, or were you thinking of coming off anyway?
I don't want to downplay anyone's bad experiences of FemDeath 3000 (including my own) and related synthetic hormone contraceptives but I feel that someone should just inject (sorry) a bit more of a balanced view here.
Remember when there was that big THE PILL GIVES YOU THROMBOSIS scare about 8 or 9 years ago? Millions of ladies stopped taking their pill overnight and as a result loads got pregnant and then had to deal with an unplanned/unwanted pregnancy and all the choices that ensues. Many more women got pregnant than ever would have suffered the side effects of thrombosis but the media had created such a hype about it that it span out of control.
It sounds like Kellifer and others have had a helluva time with their past contraception and thankfully these seem to be mostly resolved now but lets not create more out of this than necessary.
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by Uber Trick: PMD, why do you suspect that this is the pill which is doing this to you rather than other factors in your life and/or relationship?
Because every aspect I can think of in my life is great at the moment: I'm in a highly paid job that I enjoy, we are both looking for a new flat, I'm going to dance classes that I love, my partner is my best friend and has been for years...
This feeling of something not being right started more or less when I started this job. Perhaps it's even the 'everything's going to right it's bound to go wrong soon, so I should expect it' thing. If it is then that's mad; if I could isolate that that's what it was then, great, I can deal with that.
I hadn't even entertained the idea that the pill might be causing me any depression at all, although for years I've had a minor 'down' feeling that seems to come and go, despite my being a positive kind of person. But when several of the ladies on here said that it caused them depression, and furthermore when Louche pointed out that the onset of Microgynon depression can be slow enough for you to not notice it at first, I wondered if that might be it.
I think it's a combination of these two things. I still feel there's no point in switching to another pill, but perhaps going on to condoms might be better for the short time remaining.
I'll think about it...
Thanks everyone for this talk, I have some answers to think about here.
[ 10.03.2006, 09:19: Message edited by: Purple Monkey Dishwasher ]
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
quote: Have you had any issues with your injections, any other reasons for concern, or were you thinking of coming off anyway?
Oh no, not at all. But I have been on something or other for loooongtime and I was curious to see if I turned superhappyhornywonderwoman if I stopped. And it seemed like as good a time as any to investigate.
Science innit? Exploring the unknown...etc
Posted by Kira (Member # 826) on :
quote:Originally posted by Uber Trick: Remember when there was that big THE PILL GIVES YOU THROMBOSIS scare about 8 or 9 years ago? Millions of ladies stopped taking their pill overnight and as a result loads got pregnant and then had to deal with an unplanned/unwanted pregnancy and all the choices that ensues.
That was the pill I used to be on. Marvelon; it was only smokers and women of 'a certain age' that ran an increased risk...well thats what my doctor told me anyway...
[ 10.03.2006, 09:22: Message edited by: Kira ]
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
PMD, I agree its definitely worth exploring as an option, myself being one of those women who had a depressing experience with Mycrogynon. Remember to give it a good three months minimum to come out of your system though, although hormones can often take much longer to settle down as you are probably aware.
I hope you don't think I was being rude my question to you, it was really because in the post I was responding to it sounded like you were potentially blaming the pill for a "dry/stale patch" in your relationship but your later post seems to indicate thats not the case.
The only other thought which does occur to me is that be careful about trying to over-analyse an amorphous "down" feeling if you are, as you say, generally a positive person. To go looking for trouble when it doesn't exist can never be a good thing.
edit: for clarity!
[ 10.03.2006, 09:27: Message edited by: Uber Trick ]
Posted by Kellifer (Member # 187) on :
That sounds familiar PMD. Since I had no clue that the pill had these side effects when it was happening to me I thought it was just me ans Misc falling apart. I was screwed up by feelings of apathy for a long time.
Anyone thinking of quitting the synthetic hormones after a fair amount of time on them, please keep in mind that it can sometimes be a difficult withdrawal and some symptoms are amplified for a while.
Vitex supplements may be worth looking into if you have anovulatory cycles post-pill and do some Googling about serotonin depletion as it can cause a hell of a lot of mental and physical symptoms that you may not think should go together.
When quitting the pill it seems like a case of the sooner the better, but it can lead to breakthrough bleeding problems if you quit mid-way through a pack. It seems dumb, but it is best to get to the end of a pack or the sugar pills before quitting.
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
Kira, I was on that pill too, I was a smoker but not of "that age" back then.
Abby, are you going to make a pie chart from the results? Don't forget to include outside influences like: increase in horn due to length of time without sex etc
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
In a way, the grrls are lucky in being able to isolate the pill as the cause of their malaise. The legions of TMO men who find themselves getting morose and depressed have to face up to the fact their lives are mired in shit.
[ 10.03.2006, 09:38: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
Oh, Ubertrick, I'm not offended at all by your reaction.
You're right, I do over-analyze these low patches as they're not congruent with me generally.
Actually, the more I think about it, the more I'm thinking it's the 'things can't be this good for long' situation.
It'll still be an interesting experiment, though, coming off the pill.
Okay, thankee! Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
When I came off microgynan I got a week of voracious acne, one attack of the most heroically bad PMT I've had the misfortune to suffer and the raging horn within a fortnight. Then everything sort of settled down. It can be an alright transition.
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
SCHTOP! SCHTOP! purple monkey dishwasher! you wont be so cheerful when you have to take time off your career to look after the baby you become pregnant with because you came off the pill for no valid reason except it would be 'interesting'. thats a self- fullfilling prophect youre looking at right there. Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
She's already menttioned condoms. It's not as though she's coming off the pill and not replacing it. Isn't it a bit much to assume she's not bright enough to use alternative contraception?
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
yeah, but condoms fucking suck. isnt it a bit much to assume i cant read a fucking post.
[ 10.03.2006, 09:42: Message edited by: dance margarita ]
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
Heh, I planted some vegetables the other week and I've been worried enough waiting for them to sprout.
I'm not about to get pregnant!!
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
quote: Abby, are you going to make a pie chart from the results? Don't forget to include outside influences like: increase in horn due to length of time without sex etc
Good call. I think there is definitely room for graphs here. Hmm...weight, happiness, spottiness, horniness (rating both frequency and intensity of rude thoughts), there are many possible factors to be considerd...
DM - it might be me you mean, I am the one considering it for research purposes. Don't worry about babies, I am not anticipating The Sex happening, but rest assured I would take precautions.
Posted by Kellifer (Member # 187) on :
There are many forms of contraception that don't include synthetic hormones, it doesn't have to mean you get pregnant just because you stop. There is a new pill called Centchroman which apparently has no hormones in it and might bew worth researching for some women.
Being that I am in a stable relationship, I'm perfectly happy with Fertility Awareness Method and condoms. I never said this happened to every woman and I admit that I have had a fucking awful experience with the pill, to make me biased. I just don't feel it is worth the risk anymore. The whole point of having the pill was to provide more choices for women. I just don't think that synthetic hormones are a good one at all.
I agree with Thorn, in a sense women are lucky to find an answer to having crushing depression at times. The serotonin issue though, is for both sexes and might be worth looking up for anyone with problems with depression. I don't know, but you probably don't have to come off the pill to try 5HTP. You might be able to have the best of both worlds.
Good luck whatever you choose.
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
quote:Originally posted by dance margarita: isnt it a bit much to assume i cant read a fucking post.
Not when you obviously didn't, no.
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
Kellifer - my boyfriend has reached the 30 mark and has found that when he does pills he takes about a week to recover. A short while ago he tried 5-HTP to see if they'd take away that week of depression he'd get after the club night, but all they did was postpone his depression and add a little bit more on top.
We both tried them separately a few weeks later when both of us were clear of pills. I had a mild feeling of well-being for the evening (which was nice), and he had the same, but for the next 3 days he had a mild depression.
If it's any help, when I do pills I just get a nice come down the day after but no depressive effects, so I can only guess it's his reaction to any serotonin stimulators.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher: Kellifer - my boyfriend has reached the 30 mark and has found that when he does pills he takes about a week to recover. A short while ago he tried 5-HTP to see if they'd take away that week of depression he'd get after the club night, but all they did was postpone his depression and add a little bit more on top.
That's such a sad story. If only there was a simple way your boyfriend could avoid the week long come down after doing pills. I'm sure there's something he could do.
Hang on...
How to avoid an ecstasy comedown? It's on the tip of my tongue...
Nope - it's gone. Looks like he'll have to keep on necking those pills, and keep on suffering the misery.
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
Is the secret to give in before your memory starts to go? Just kidding!
Well, it is sad, as I've got plenty of years of raving left in me, but sod it. I guess we'd just better move on to fetish nights instead.
Oh, and Thorn... Don't feel too sorry for the man, his girlfriend has just decided to become a pole dancer!!
[ 10.03.2006, 10:31: Message edited by: Purple Monkey Dishwasher ]
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
I broke my pill capacity a few years back, and can't do them anymore because of the comedowns. Still, fun while it lasted.
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
You can get great ecstasy in Brighton for only £3 per pill. When did ecstasy get so cheap?!
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
£2.50 actually.
I've absolutely no idea, but remember that ecstasy always needs a filler to be made into a tablet and we live near chalk cliffs!!
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
I think I picked up your old broken pill capacity benway and its been working fine for me! Cheers m8 Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: I broke my pill capacity a few years back, and can't do them anymore because of the comedowns.
Oh yeah! That was it! If you're doing something that's plunging you into week long bouts of depression you should... stop doing it. It seems so obvious when I say it out loud.
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
Fair enough.
Actually, we still go out clubbing. I do pills and he does a mixture of Shark/Red Bull and alcohol.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
I don't really understand this thread? Is ecstasy a viable alternative to condoms?
Posted by Kellifer (Member # 187) on :
The Pill can deplete serotonin reserves pretty drastically, leading to depression and all sorts of other syptoms.
When you take ecstasy, your serotonin is mass produced leading to depression a few days later when your brain is fucked for how much it is supposed to make normally.
You can buy supplements which may increase the amount of serotnin made in your brain, or take SSRIs from the doctors. These can be useful to those coming off the pill or ecstasy users when they have bad come downs.
I've been really miserable over the past few days. Have you heard me whinging? Well? Have you?
No!
And as for pills, HA! You make me laugh!
I remember when pills really were pills. Tiny, greasy, spheres of apocalypse, writing off entire weeks at a time, leaving you feeling like a child-murderer on the gallows.
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
x
[ 10.03.2006, 11:36: Message edited by: Louche ]
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
Me too. That's why I find it weird that pills are so cheap now. I don't trust em. But on the odd occasion they pass the night away quite pleasantly.
hello barry, don't be sad baby. Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
oh man, Black Mask totally pwned us at drugs.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
I couldn't have done it without Oobs.
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
Uber and barry up a tree... Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
i remember my first ever mitsubishi, at the paradise factory in manchester. i didn't know it was possible to feel so wonderful. it's all gone now, all spent, the feelings.
maybe the fairies can make better by granting wishes?
what to wish for..?
[ 10.03.2006, 13:56: Message edited by: vikram ]
Posted by Toilet Duck (Member # 801) on :
Drifting somewhat back towards the original subject, but still...
Went to see my very nice doctor today and asked about the possibility of my long-term depression being related to synthetic hormones. He confirmed that it can happen, and more often in the combined pill than progesterone only, but that it's not the case for me. Yay.
So I join the legions of TMO boys in being unable to place the reason for my desire to hurl myself off the swing bridge.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
conversely, does it make me paedo to like listening to 'joe le taxi' by Vanessa Paradis?
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
what about alizee?
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
I've not heard of her.
[ 10.03.2006, 17:38: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
she did a quite wonderful song called moi lolita. it was teh great. checkit Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
the lil sister in biker jacket is... what the fuck is that about?
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
those crazy french!
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
les francais mentalles
[ 10.03.2006, 18:00: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
quote: He confirmed that it can happen, and more often in the combined pill than progesterone only, but that it's not the case for me. Yay.
Do you mean that you are on progesterone only? If so, then harking back to the E-pill issue then tnat might be worth looking at. I don't mean this from a straight-edge position, I do love the disco-pills, yes I do. YumYumYum. But from observation of many people and myself then you can't just assume that you feel a bit grim on Tuesdays and that is the end of it. Maybe give it a bit of a break and see how it feels?
Posted by Toilet Duck (Member # 801) on :
I'm on Depo-provera (jab), and it can't be related due to the timing of the illness and the length of time I'd been on synthetic hormones before then. ETA: This is why I'm not giving it a break - the pain of periods is not worth the very very very remote possibility that coming off of the jab will help clear me up.
Are you suggesting I go out and get some ecstasy? Because I hate to seem boring, but I have no intention whatsoever of doing drugs. Except the ones available over the counter, natch.
ETA more: I hope that doesn't sound like I'm being miserable and grumpy, I'm very sleepy tonight and can't make my words work.
[ 11.03.2006, 16:29: Message edited by: Toilet Duck ]
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
No, I think that woud be my wine addled brain thinking you were somone else. Sorry. Ignore me!
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
Oooo - Alizee
Posted by Jack Vincennes (Member # 814) on :
Absurdly late to this thread, obviously, but having read it it has suddenly become clear to me why, in three years, I could go from being someone who deals with fairly nasty stuff like a grownup (a grownup who doesn't cry very much) to the kind of person who will weep at pretty much any TV show or film (or advert, actually) that is sadder than Zoolander and will avoid speaking to others in case crying occurs for no ovbious reason halfway through. Unless it is entirely my fault and not that of the pill -which is also possible -but it's kind of nice to at least have another factor to consider. So, yes, thank you for talking about the nastiness or otherwise of the pill, all who have done so!
Also vikram thank you for posting the link to the Alizee video. I have already watched it twice and it didn't make me cry either time.
Edit: Alizee has two 'e's apparently
[ 12.03.2006, 10:32: Message edited by: Jack Vincennes ]
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
Hey, Alizee's doing the snake movement. I'm learning to do that at my dance classes at the moment!
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When you manage to get back to something approaching an even keel we'll have to hook up for a drink, really has been ages since I last saw you guys.
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