Look out for the trailer all over the net after November 4th.
[ 29.10.2004, 04:44: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
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Posted by Raz (Member # 449) on :
Ooh ooh Palpatine with lightsaber! That actually makes me really excited. I have been excited twice before. This time will be different!
Also why have his teeth suddenly turned mank? Does the Dark Side work that quickly? On teeth?
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
Fantastic - Kim Delaney is going to star in five episodes of the OC. But why ouse a Star Wars thread to tell us that?
Posted by Raz (Member # 449) on :
Actually that's another rewriting of the original mythos, isn't it. In the OT we were led to believe that masters such as Yoda and Palpatine had no need to use lightsabers at all, as their power was so great. Now we know different!
Posted by Raz (Member # 449) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: Fantastic - Kim Delaney is going to star in five episodes of the OC. But why ouse a Star Wars thread to tell us that?
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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Plenty of duels to look forward to:
Anakin vs Mace etc Obi-Wan vs Grievous Palpatine vs Yoda Anakin vs Obi Wan
Mmmmm, laserswords.
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
Lucas v. Audience
Audience v. Bad Dialogue
Not as good as LOTR Trilogy v. Not as good as original trilogy
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Roy: Lucas v. Audience Audience v. Bad Dialogue
The dialogue of Episode III is rumoured to suck less than that of the other two prequels.
quote:Originally posted by Roy: Not as good as LOTR Trilogy
How are they comparable?
quote:Originally posted by Roy: Not as good as original trilogy
Be that as it may, Revenge of the Sith will be the closest prequel to the OT, in every sense.
Posted by kovacs (Member # 28) on :
By "every sense", you mean "chronologically". That is absolutely the only guarantee you can offer about this film, Misc. The rest is all your own desperate optimism.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by kovacs: By "every sense", you mean "chronologically". That is absolutely the only guarantee you can offer about this film, Misc. The rest is all your own desperate optimism.
Lucas and his minions have been striving to blend the PT style with OT style. From the pictures, video clips and behind the scenes footage I've seen, they are succeeding. And not just with the hair.
Closest prequel to the OT in terms of STYLE? yes
We will see Emperor Palpatine, Darth Vader, Chewbacca, Grand Moff Tarkin, Mon Mothma, etc in addition to some of the OT characters who have already been featured in the PT.
Closest prequel to the OT in terms of CHARACTERS? yes
Hence I conclude that Episode III will be the closest of the prequels to the original trilogy.
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
quote: How are they comparable?
By comparing one set of three films to the other. If you are seriously saying that you have never heard of Lucas' prequals being compared to Jackson's Trilogy, then fair enough.
Posted by kovacs (Member # 28) on :
I accept you are more expert than me about Episode III in that I haven't looked at any spoiler material. However.
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: Lucas and his minions have been striving to blend the PT style with OT style. From the pictures, video clips and behind the scenes footage I've seen, they are succeeding. And not just with the hair.
Firstly, what do you mean by "style"? The look? What could this mean exactly, that the ships are going to start approximating those of Episode IV in their design? That might console some fans but it wouldn't especially reassure me that I'm promised a decent film. There is more to ANH than its visual aesthetic.
If you mean the "tone", in terms of, say, dialogue, characterisation, Saturday-morning-picture optimism, bantering humour, I'd be a little more convinced but I don't see how you could discern this from behind the scenes footage and the kind of snatched video clips that are going to be available right now. For the last two movies in the PT, fans have tried to put any spin they can on any scrap of information, arguing in both cases that this movie is going to be "better than Empire Strikes Back" (often because they've got the idea there's something "dark" in it )
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We will see Emperor Palpatine, Darth Vader, Chewbacca, Grand Moff Tarkin, Mon Mothma, etc in addition to some of the OT characters who have already been featured in the PT.
This is really just chronology -- they are appearing in this film as Easter Eggs because we are nearing the historical period of the Original Trilogy. I have my doubts whether they will really serve an important purpose in the film rather than being "kewl" cross-references: Chewbacca doesn't have any logical role in this trilogy and his appearance makes more sense if it's confined to Episodes IV, V and VI.
Most of those characters aren't going to be played by the same actors anyway, so what difference does it really make? Mon Mothma, for God's sake! Was she really your favourite icon of the original films? How can it conceivably improve Episode III to have a young actress playing someone called Mon Mothma?
Moreover, the characters aren't really comparable to their Original Trilogy incarnations. We've already seen Obi-Wan, Palpatine, Vader (effectively), Bail Organa, Owen Lars... did it really ensure the two films so far were "close" in any way to Episodes IV-VI? Did Beru's cameo in Episode II make that film seem more like Episode IV? I wouldn't say so. The two droids both appeared in Episode I. Did they add any particular depth and quality to that film?
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
quote:Originally posted by Roy: Lucas v. Audience
Audience v. Bad Dialogue
Not as good as LOTR Trilogy v. Not as good as original trilogy
Stupendolol.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
All I'm trying to say is that if you're a fan of the OT, you're likely to enjoy Revenge of the Sith more than the other prequels?
Do you expect this film will be worse than The Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones?
Posted by kovacs (Member # 28) on :
I think it could be worse than Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, yeah. I have no real way of knowing but I don't have great faith in Lucas' abilities to make the kind of films I want to see.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by kovacs: I think it could be worse than Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, yeah. I have no real way of knowing but I don't have great faith in Lucas' abilities to make the kind of films I want to see.
...whereas I'm bound to enjoy any film that features lasers, space ships, aliens and troops in battle armour.
I guess we're just different people, Kové.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
Rash words, MF. That would mean that you're bound to enjoy Battlefield Earth: a saga of the year 3000, which is a load of old wank and doesn't make any sense.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
I was being sarcastic, TD.
Posted by omikin (Member # 37) on :
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: worse than
or "as shit as"
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
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Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
Just watched the trailer for Ep.III.
I was hoping that it would pull me in with a sense of completion, or set up some grandness and finality - but just thought it looked about as good as Ep.II, which isn't very good.
Oooohhhh, lava!
Yeah there's wookies, yawn.
Yeah, Anakin pouts a bit, great.
Yeah there's Yoda with a lightsabre (one of my least favourite parts of Ep.II - something for fat fan boys)
Oh look, Vadar, all manicled up, looking like a joey on a table.
I've got even less interest in watching this now. Especially as Ewan doesn't seem to feature much and the was no dialogue from the film in any clip except for VO from Palpatine.
Looks shit.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
I always feel worried when Msic starts saying how good Ep 3 is going to be. It's like I'm thinking to myself "I don't want to see him get hurt again." I'll be really angry with George Lucas if it's rubbish, despite having no personal investment in the film whatsoever. George Lucas isn't the one who has to look into Misc's eyes and see the hurt. He's not the one who has to pick up the pieces. Posted by Tef-land (Member # 561) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: George Lucas isn't the one who has to look into Misc's eyes and see the hurt.
URSIMONPEGG&ICM£5
(do we still do that here??)
Posted by discodamage (Member # 66) on :
[QUOTE] [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Thorn Davis: [qb] Fantastic - Kim Delaney is going to star in five episodes of the OC. QUOTE]
i misread this as 'kim deal is going to star in five episodes of the OC'. i was so excited i nearly started bleeding out of my nose.
Posted by kovacs (Member # 28) on :
my barbelith commentary was so fucking good I might as well just paste it in
Well, despite myself I think that was a pretty intelligent teaser. It really does the job of linking the trilogies together and, as Lucas has always claimed he wanted to, giving the sense that the six films are the story of Anakin Skywalker's rise and fall.
I could take or leave lava and Wookiees, and I could certainly leave stupid fanboy "woah" moments like Yoda being bad-ass again, or Palpatine with a saber. But I like the feeling of a saga winding-up, reaching its beginning and conclusion at once... the feeling of epic perspective, that this is all the lead-in to where we entered the story in 1977.
kovacs sez: this will do for now. Posted by Bamba (Member # 330) on :
In context of the Jedi weapons used in the Star Wars cantos, is saber actualy spelt 'saber', or should it be the more normal 'sabre'. Serious question (honest guv)from someone who pays no attention to the goings-on of the Star Wars universe.
[ 05.11.2004, 21:02: Message edited by: Bamba ]
Posted by kovacs (Member # 28) on :
"Saber", because the screenplay is written by an American.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
"Ooh, they look a bit like X-Wings, don't they?"
[ 25.11.2004, 08:43: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
That looks like the picture off a video card box.
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
Gosh, aren't we LOTR fans lucky to have the hairy kiwi prise our precious from our trembling hands and returning it to us loved and unharmed.
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