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Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :

Alan Moore is having a chat with Michael Moorcock at Blackwells on Charing Cross road at seven o'clock on the 18th january. Tickets are six quid each and there are still some available. The phone number is 0845 456 876.

Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :

I'd like to think that they're literally going to bump into each other while browsing in the health and relationship section, and have a brief but polite chat.

Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :

Perhaps about Hawksmoor.

Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :

Lol, my mates and I were drinking in The 10 Bells on New Year's Day and Neil and I kept dragging people outside and insisting they worship at the EVILHAWKSMOORGODOFDOOM!

Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :

I live in the flat above the ten bells, and this kind of thing really winds me up. All night, idiots running about playing Jack the Ripper. [Mad]

Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :

Benway, really? The pub looks like it could do with a touch of paint. I had a pint in there when I went on a Jack The Ripper walk, but can assure you that I was as quiet as a mouse.

Posted by kovacs (Member # 28) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
Perhaps about Hawksmoor.

...from the BLEED.

Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Benway:
I live in the flat above the ten bells, and this kind of thing really winds me up. All night, idiots running about playing Jack the Ripper.

I wonder what the worst ever place to live for fans doing re-enactments must be. I mean, there's that Star Wars place in the desert, but I'm guessing that the kind of people that make the effort to travel there are probably quite sensible and pleasant. I'm thinking, like, the zebra crossing at Abbey Road (which I've never been to now I think on). Imagine living right next to that.

I did go to Jim Morrison's grave in Paris many years ago, and there's always a few people there, but they're not pissing about usually and it's not overlooked by any houses, so that doesn't count.

What's the worst place of pop-icon re-enactment pilgrimage in the world do you reckon?

Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :

quote:
Originally posted by dang65:

What's the worst place of pop-icon re-enactment pilgrimage in the world do you reckon?

Neverlands guest bedroom

Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :

quote:
Originally posted by dang65:

What's the worst place of pop-icon re-enactment pilgrimage in the world do you reckon?

I bet the residents of Abbey Road get asked to take a lot of photos of groups of four international tourists...
Please to hold on, madame, while I remove my shoeses

Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Benny the Ball:
Neverlands guest bedroom

Lol

Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :

outside the dakota on the upper west side of new york.

Posted by LowLevel (Member # 30) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Please to hold on, madame, while I remove my shoeses

Is it just me, or did anyone else think that sounded like a French Gollum

Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Benny the Ball:
Benway, really? The pub looks like it could do with a touch of paint. I had a pint in there when I went on a Jack The Ripper walk, but can assure you that I was as quiet as a mouse.

No, sorry. I was subverting our notions of objective truth (thereby challenging the foundations of our moral ontolgy) by breaking down the false boundaries that have been constructed to seperate the physical world and the one in my head.

Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :

you fucking liar

Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :

yeah. Anyway, readers of the excellent 'Killing Time' magazine will know that I know more about Jack the Ripper than anybody.

Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Benway:
yeah. Anyway, readers of the excellent 'Killing Time' magazine will know that I know more about Jack the Ripper than anybody.

Alright, then... who was he?

Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :

I'm going to try and grow a beard in a week.

Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :

quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
What's the worst place of pop-icon re-enactment pilgrimage in the world do you reckon?

Apparently platform staff at Kings Cross have been briefed to help visitors who want their photo taken next to the "Platform 9 and 3/4" sign they now have there.

Also, local residents got fucked off with folks having their picture taken outside that door from the stupid Notting Hill film. As we know from Sabian, those types don't like the proles venturing into W11.

Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :

I'll with Patricia Cornwell on this. Sickert.

Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :

Patricia Cornwell's a fucking idiot.

Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Vogon Poetess:
Apparently platform staff at Kings Cross have been briefed to help visitors who want their photo taken next to the "Platform 9 and 3/4" sign they now have there.

I thought it was Paddington.

[Confused]

Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Vogon Poetess:
Apparently platform staff at Kings Cross have been briefed to help visitors who want their photo taken next to the "Platform 9 and 3/4" sign they now have there. [/QB]

you have got to be fucking joking.

Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Benway:
yeah. Anyway, readers of the excellent 'Killing Time' magazine

It is - I'm not much of a fan of the genre to be honest beyond Shaun of the Dead, but reading this was entertaing, informative and of a standard I would expect from any off the shelf mag you would find in WH Smiths.

quote:
I know more about Jack the Ripper than anybody.

I used to work on Leman Street which apprently was one of his stamping grounds - but you probably already knew that - can't remember the exact alley but it was alledged he did one in there, just below our tape library.

Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Patricia Cornwell's a fucking idiot.

I see.

Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
Leman Street

Edgar Allan Poe lived there briefly, too.

Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :

I'm with Mask on this. She's a bit of a twat. The smelly bit.

Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :

I bet she smells better than most people who publish a theory on who the killer was.

Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :

I bet Alan Moore hums a bit. He looks like someone who has flies buzzing around him.

Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :

quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:

quote:
Originally posted by Vogon Poetess:
Apparently platform staff at Kings Cross have been briefed to help visitors who want their photo taken next to the "Platform 9 and 3/4" sign they now have there.
I thought it was Paddington.

Why on earth would it be Paddington?

I have seen the sign myself but am usually in too much of a hurry to ask someone to take my pic under it.

Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :

I saw the sign last time I was in London but I thought taking a picture of it would make me look like a twat. Anyway, I was too weighted down with wine to be arsed to find my camera.

Posted by LowLevel (Member # 30) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Vogon Poetess:
"Platform 9 and 3/4"

Do they help them run headlong at the pillar between platforms 9 and 10 with a trolley piled high with cases and owls?

I'd buy that for a dollar

Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Vogon Poetess:

quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
I thought it was Paddington.

Why on earth would it be Paddington?

Yeah, it would be absolute chaos, what with all the other people already there dressed in duffle coats and floppy hats eating marmalade sandwiches.

Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Patricia Cornwell's a fucking idiot.

who do you think it is then? not that it matters, i mean apart from to the relatives of a couple of dead whores.

Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Benway:
I'll with Patricia Cornwell on this. Sickert.

Mm. Did you see the documentary thing where she bought and cut up a Sickert painting to reveal... nothing? She continued to maintain Sickert was TEH RIPPAR!!1 on the basis of ancient photographic imagery of him as an old man in which his eyes looked, like, really really evil.

Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :

I saw that. I couldn't stop laughing at the bit where she watched an old film of Sickert. She kept shaking her head and saying "Look at that evil bastard! It is totally him, he is so the killer"

And she then spent about five million quid proving nothing at all.

Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Roy:
I saw that. I couldn't stop laughing at the bit where she watched an old film of Sickert. She kept shaking her head and saying "Look at that evil bastard! It is totally him, he is so the killer"

And she then spent about five million quid proving nothing at all.

Indeed. It all came down to "ooh, he is sooo teh Ripar!1!". Of course, Cornwell herself went a bit doolally for a while, in her gated community home in Virginia. Hints of paranoid psychotis seemingly related to moving in with a female partner and turning a shade survivalist. So... her ability to reason using evidence might not've been at its peak during the Sickert thing.

Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :

Still, mad or not, it'd be nice to have sold enough books to be able to fly around in a lear jet on a whim...

Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :

I hated the title of the book: Jack The Ripper - Case Closed

The arrogance of it.

[ 11.01.2006, 14:57: Message edited by: Roy ]

Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :

Jack the Ripper. End of.

Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :

Jack The Ripper. I solved it.

Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :

jack the ripper won't be cutting anymore whores, because, oh. hang on.

Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
She continued to maintain Sickert was TEH RIPPAR!!1 on the basis of ancient photographic imagery of him as an old man in which his eyes looked, like, really really evil.

Maybe she's lost it since she wrote the book then. I don't really know that much about Jack the Ripper, but I'm familiar with the suspects, and Sickert is the only one where there was any kind of evidence at all, in the form of the letters that were sent to the press. I think the basis of her theory was that the letters were written by Sickert, and they contained information that only the killer could have known, therefore Sickert was the killer. It's interesting because any other theory I've read about just dismisses the letters outright.

Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :

She was convinced there was some sort of evidence hidden inside one of Sickert's paintings, wasn't she? She bought it and cut it open; there was nothing, but she clung to her theory anyway, on "he looks evil" grounds. If she'd started out with a more convincing hypothesis, I suspect she devalued it somewhat in the course of the televised version.

Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :

Didn't Sickert paint a picture called something like "I am the Ripper and to prove it I've painted a picture with Ripper in the title"?

Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
She was convinced there was some sort of evidence hidden inside one of Sickert's paintings, wasn't she?

I don't know, I've only read the book, and while she certainly mentions the paintings, she doesn't say anything about hidden messages. Most of her theories rest on Sickert's work and his habit of writing badgering letters to newspapers. Why not bite the bullet and read the book? It's entertaining enough.

[ 12.01.2006, 14:24: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]

Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :

May just do that - working on the theory that she wrote it before she went batshit on the telly.