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And this is just on PAL PS3s? So the Japanese and North American PS3s run fine with the hardware, while we're actually getting a cut-down version? And our price hasn't been dropped as a result?
quote:Originally posted by Nathan Bleak: SilverGinger - You may be interested in The Godfather for the Wii, which has - against all odds - actually been getting very good reviews. Mostly for the ability to do exactly what you describe - walk round a free-roam city smacking people in the head with a baseball bat. I ordered it yesterday. I'd actually forgotten what it felt like to look forward to playing the Wii.
Nice. I'll trade in my copy of Call of Duty tonight and get that. I suppose I could think about finishing the game before trading it in but it's not been in my system since December so I'm obviously not very into it.
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I was thinking about getting that Godfather game too, but I just got a new game for the DS (puzzle quest - bad name, good game, and I just haven't got time to play any more. I never really got properly stuck into the last Wii game I got because of the DS.
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Oh dear. Looks like there is a chance of Final Fantasy series going multi-platform as well. That would seriously hurt Sony.
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That would be nice. I don't see why any third party developer would do games just for Sony at the moment unless of course they get a massive Sony bung. Apparently it's much much harder to develop on so development costs are higher than 360 and you have a much lower install base so returns are going to be much lower.
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Well let's not write them off just yet. I have a feeling it's probably going to pick up a bit, and to be fair I think they have pushed out way more stock than the MS or Nintendo did, in an effort to avoid selling out and putting money into the pockets of the people selling consoles on ebay. It'll likely be a slow burner that will pick up when developers learn how to extract the best performance from the machine which.
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt at the moment.
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Ok first impressions - very nice. I've got formula 1 which is probably the most realistic game I have ever seen. I've also got Gundam which I heard is a bit special, I'll pop that in shortly.
Miffed - I thought the controllers would be wireless (unplugs controller) - ooh they are!
Ok I thought the games would be ay 1080p but formula one plays at only 720p - maybe others will use the full spec.
I'll write back later when I have played it some more
quote:Originally posted by Ringo: they have pushed out way more stock than the MS or Nintendo did, in an effort to avoid selling out and putting money into the pockets of the people selling consoles on ebay.
Mmm. While it's true that they got more stock out there than either Microsoft or Nintendo, they would still have been expecting to sell out just because as a company you expect more than 200,000 people to want your product. The balance to strike is to have it sell out, but still keep your sales at a maximum, jso that you're not actually losing momentum because you can't meet the demand, but you're instead increasing the demand by making it look like a must have product. People are still like "Fuck! A Wii! Must pick that up before it sells out again!", when if they'd had the chance to think it over, they might not have bought one. It's a balancing act, and Sony will certainly be disappointed that they didn't sell out and just the very fact it hasn't sold out will do them harm because it looks like no-one wants it. It may not be less popular than the X360 would have been if they'd had 200,000 at a March launch, but it appears that it will and that kind of creates a problem in the long term. It makes the product seem unexciting right off the bat.
It's probably no reflection on the quality of the machine. Most likely Sony have suffered by launching in March instead of right before Christmas like its competitors.
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Ok, I take your point, but Nintendo sold fewer than 200,000 consoles in the UK in the entire month of December when the hype aboout the Wii was at its greatest and people were paying like double retail value for the things to get them in time for Chrimbo. You can't realistically say that a console is a flop just because it doesn't sell 220,000 units on its first day, can you?
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Ok, had a proper play now. Gundum was crap to be honest, so I went out and bought some more games - Sonic the Hedgehog is quite a lot different to what I rememvber - the opening sequence was draw-droppingly stunning. Tiger Woods Golf is quite amazing as well, but I'm not overly keen on the playing method (its different to the PSP)
Finally, I downloaded Grand Turismo HD Concept.
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
Truly stunning - in fact so perfect it is difficult quite often to notice the difference between a computer game and real life - seriously. I just hope that it doesn't retain the 'concept' tag and they bring the full game out for real.
Oh one other thing - a lot of demo versions you actually have to pay for from the Sony Site which is a bit naughty I think.
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DTHD: Concept will remain just that. The development team decided it wasn't really worth carrying on with and opted to develop GT5 instead, which is supposed to come out this year but I really doubt that's likely.
The graphics for GTHD do look absolutely stunning though. Better than anything I think the X360 is capable of.
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Well maybe it's something subliminal that sony are doing, maybe it's the no hassle money back guarantee from game, or maybe it's just becasue I knew I could just go into a shop and get one, but I went and buyed a PS3.
quote:Originally posted by Nathan Bleak: SilverGinger - You may be interested in The Godfather for the Wii, which has - against all odds - actually been getting very good reviews. Mostly for the ability to do exactly what you describe - walk round a free-roam city smacking people in the head with a baseball bat. I ordered it yesterday. I'd actually forgotten what it felt like to look forward to playing the Wii.
I've only played this for a couple of hours but it's so much fun. You get to extort business owners so that they pay a cut to your family. Obviously some people aren't happy to just pay the money so you have to "persuade" them it is a good idea. One way to do this is grab the person, move them next to their till then swing the remote to the side to smash the till open with the owners head. It's brutal.
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quote:Originally posted by SilverGinger5: One way to do this is grab the person, move them next to their till then swing the remote to the side to smash the till open with the owners head. It's brutal.
This made me so happy the first time I did it, it nearly made me cry with laughter. Also doing the same, but with gravestones. I also really enjoyed throwing the owner of an antique store through vases, windows etc. Extreme violence and the wii are such a great match. It's also a real pleasure to have proper free aim on the weapons - feels like having a mouse/keyboard on the go. Except obviously with a mouse you can't bash people's faces in.
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Waynester have you had a go at installing another OS yet? I'm trying to work out which operating systems will work with it. I have a feeling PPC versions of OSX would work, although details are sketchy and Sony are being a bit cagey about which operating systems are ok.
Really surprised Sony have built in that functionality to be honest. It seems quite unlike them.
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Some choice quotes (for those of you who care a little but not quite enough to click on the link).
quote: In Sweden for example, a report shows that most of the retailers are “fully equipped” with PS3s, a similar situation occurring in Britain and Denmark, but also suggests that until now few are interesting in buying one. Most of them look for a Wii.
quote:But the most “famous” failed debut by far was in the French territory, where 95% of the consoles available at launch site remained unsold. Although Sony officials were expecting at least 3000 persons- and for that had mobilized 40 police officers- only 50 true-blue fans showed up. The co-organizers of the Paris event called it…a “non-event”.
quote:However, outside Virgin Megastore on London’s Oxford Street there was only one person- 17-year-old Rihatsu Thomas- to stand in line to get his PS3: “I thought there would be more people here,” he said. “I hope some more people come soon.”
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As a poor student there is no way i could afford the price tag on this thing. Besides out of the three consols its the one i want least.
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When you do, apparently Yellow Dog v5 is designed specifically for PS3
I've been mostly playing GT:HD (although its appeal is really limited other than staring going "ooooh isn't it pretty") and Ridge Racer 7. I've always loved the Ridge Racer games and 7 is great. That's all really.
Apparently I've got £25 worth of Game rewards stuff that I can spend, so I might buy another game at some point soon. I would get F1 but I don't want to go too mad on the driving games front.
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quote:Originally posted by wonderstarr: Only one day and 14 hours until the GTA IV trailer! I am stoked.
Well from the clippet it looks pretty, but it isn't London as had beeen whispered about which I thought would have been excellent - instead its 'Libertania' (IE New York) and - well see for yourselves rather than me spoil it for you.
quote:Originally posted by SilverGinger5: [QUOTE]Nice. I'll trade in my copy of Call of Duty tonight and get that. I suppose I could think about finishing the game before trading it in but it's not been in my system since December so I'm obviously not very into it.
I've stupidly been saying I have been playing Medal of Honour but in fact I have been playing CoD 3 (so bloody similar) - however the PS3 game is quite excellent, and once you get the hang of the controls, its bloody good.
By the way, CoD makes use quite a bit of the sixxaxis mode of the controller, so one minute you are fiddling with the controls, the next flailing the controller around in circles - which is rather fun.
I've got standby duty this weekend, which means no partying - usually I would be miffed, but not now I have the PS3 and CoD.
quote:Originally posted by wonderstarr: Only one day and 14 hours until the GTA IV trailer! I am stoked.
Well from the clippet it looks pretty, but it isn't London as had beeen whispered about which I thought would have been excellent - instead its 'Libertania' (IE New York) and - well see for yourselves rather than me spoil it for you.
I was watching it at 1am, mate! I think I posted six comments in a row about it on Barbelith as nobody else was up or bothered.
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quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: I wonder if GTA IV will ever make it to PC.
ALmost certainly, I would say. All the others did.
The trailer looks pretty but it doesn't give any real clue about whether the gamplay is going to be stepped up in any way. I can't think of anything that will represent the step change that happened when GTA III came out - a three dimensional world where you could steal any car, drive around, hang out... it seemed like the most phenomenal step forward in gaming you could imagine.
Stuff like Crackdown and Dead Rising has taken the sandbox game in mildly different directions but nothing where you can't imagine going back to the way it was. Actually, I think my favourite GTA style game has been Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction, which was terrific fun, but could have done with a bigger map.
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But what quantum leap can you make beyond a sandbox? Beyond a three-dimensional world where you can do anything? You can only make the sandbox bigger, surely?
This is rhetorical as I can think of a couple of things you could do - make it deeper and richer, as I've seen suggested somewhere online (let the protagonist text, hack, become part of a fictional internet, make the game networked), but that still wouldn't really represent the same huge leap.
And after a point, it seems you're going to be trying to "improve" the game just by making it closer to what real players are doing in their real lives. I can post on internet boards as me; I don't want to become a gangster who posts on internet boards.
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quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: I wonder if GTA IV will ever make it to PC.
ALmost certainly, I would say. All the others did.
True, but how long will it take? I can't imagine playing a GTA game with a gamepad (other than the driving). It would just be wrong.
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quote:Originally posted by Nathan Bleak: The trailer looks pretty but it doesn't give any real clue about whether the gamplay is going to be stepped up in any way. I can't think of anything that will represent the step change that happened when GTA III came out - a three dimensional world where you could steal any car, drive around, hang out... it seemed like the most phenomenal step forward in gaming you could imagine.
You're simply not going to get the sort of generational shift you did from 2D to 3D with this though.
Nor, I think, can they repeat the neat tricks of setting they pulled with Vice City or San Andreas.
San Andreas exploded the scale and detail of a GTA world to such an extent I'm just intrigued as to what they will do, and think it's only right they've returned to Liberty City to do it.
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