H1ppychick
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on the upside, at least you won't be forced to take candlelit shits in full earshot of your colleagues, nor to hear aforementioned colleagues doing the same any more.
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quote:Originally posted by McDirts: shouldn't you have an official warning or summat if your work isn't up to scratch? I thought you couldn't just 'sack' someone out the blue like.
Well. This all started just before the Frankfurt book fair. I go into work the day before I'm due to fly out and meet her there to find this MASSIVE email of her whinging about the state of the floor (she brings her dog in every day, the fur gets EVERYWHERE) and about information she thought was missing but actually wasn't she just hadn't pulled it through from where I told it was. Anyway, this email was really ***** and did not say it was a warning any where on it. But in my final 'you're sacked' letter she's saying that it was an official warning.
When we got back from FF we had that pathetic official meeting in a pub and she gave me a very short list of things I was to improve upon. I had been doing these things for over a year without her ever once saying I was doing them wrong, or could be doing them better.
Then five weeks later she says it isn't working out.
And, the worst part is, I never stopped trying. I was always trying.
So yeah. I handled it badly. I said I was bored of fighting passive aggressive battles with a boss who had serious issues when it comes to dealing with staff, that it has been horrifically hard to drag myself into work each morning to sit opposite someone I don't actually like anymore and that I couldn't be bothered to go through the list of things I supposedly didn't do because she's unable to give me proper examples and I'm tired of trying to read her mind.
Then I stomped out. Sobbing.
NOT GRACIOUS.
I'm going to use the festive fortnight to drink a lot then sign up with a temping agency until I can sort out something permanent. That's the plan.
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That sounds like a good plan. I was sacked back in February, for being crap at something (sales) which I was, most definitely, crap at. It forced me to go back to being self-employed in something I'm experienced in and slightly above average at (translating), and have been my own boss again since then. I don't earn much money, but then I don't do much work, really. I'm much happier.
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H1ppychick
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if you were inclined to investigate the sitation you might possibly have a case for unfair dismissal, based on your post above. Is the business feeling the pinch, might she be trying to reduce her staffing and costs without having to pay redundancy?
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yeah. you could still do all the drinking, but initiate some sort of proceedings at the same time, and see what happens. you might get some money out of it.
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erm, I'm probly exaggerated there to try and make Lilo feel better about being unfairly dismissed. It's probably 3 for 2.
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I'm hearing a hell of a lot of stories of people being laid off at the moment, and most of them are followed by other people saying, "God, they could have waited till January!" Which kind of suggests to me that a lot of employers probably are waiting till January.
Is it kinder to let someone have a blissfully ignorant Christmas and New Year and then sack them, or to sack them first so they don't blow loads of money on pointless presents but do have a massive blow out on 3 for 1 booze?
I think I've always been sacked around the end of August in the past, and had a job again by the end of September. I don't think I'd like to be sacked just before Xmas and have to sit around for two weeks before anyone started thinking about reading CVs again and that.
Good luck with it all anyway Lilo, and good luck to everyone else in January.
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I think I'm safe for the time being. They keep talking about bonuses and stuff, which I guess would be conveniently forgotten about if things were dire. In fact I think the firm is doing pretty well as the software we sell is often used by companies who might otherwise have to hire a team of developers. Sorry developers...
ETA: Wow, that makes me sound like a right smug cunt. Sorry for that. And sorry about your job, Lilo. Hope you find something with a private, sound-insulated, lockable, dog-free toilet.
H1ppychick
We all prisoners, chickee-baby. We all locked in.
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I'm still working on contract at my place - last renewed in April for 18 months so theoretically up till end next October, however they could end it early with one month's notice.
They've made a number of contractors take three weeks of unpaid furlough starting this week.
Those people who’ve come up for contract renewal have either not been renewed or have had to take rate drops of around 10%.
They’ve been trying to make long-term contractors go permanent but are only offering a permanent rate which is about 50% of the contract rates – I can speak from experience here, and I turned them down.
There’s talk of another contractor cull at the end of February, about which I’ve been getting increasingly nervous, however recent meetings have assigned me work well past this point so I would hope I’m safe through till at least April (although you can never tell).
Despite all of this the projects team had a meeting recently which concluded they were 200 man days per month short on resource if they were to achieve all the initiatives and projects which management have on the books for next year – so those people who are left will have to work twice as hard.
It’s fun times, that’s for sure.
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quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: They keep talking about bonuses and stuff, which I guess would be conveniently forgotten about if things were dire.
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I heard that Threshers was doing that 40% off all booze deal again this year? Very irresponsible of them in the current climate of economic despair. It wont be just Lilo who drowns her sorrows 40% too effectively and ends up passed out covered in vomit in the middle of Westfield shopping centre.
Sorry about your job Lilo. Though your boss sounds rubbish.
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quote:Originally posted by dang65: I'm hearing a hell of a lot of stories of people being laid off at the moment, and most of them are followed by other people saying, "God, they could have waited till January!" Which kind of suggests to me that a lot of employers probably are waiting till January.
I dunno. If things are so dire you need to lay people off, then you need to do it immediately. I don't know. It all feels a bit bleak at the moment. I know of a few people who are losing their jobs at the moment. It's quite frightening.
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The bit I really hate about people losing their jobs is that there will be massive competition for any new ones that come up. I've usually been used to being in demand, because there always seem to be far more jobs than experienced people in the stuff I do, but that situation can really quickly reverse itself in times like this.
Which probably applies to a lot of jobs, I'm sure. So you really have to put in a huge effort to get yourself into one of those rare vacancies, and "huge effort" is not a phrase I like to hear.
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Yeah, I personally don't interview well when there's too much pressure. Fortunately there's no word around the office about anyone being let go anytime soon. *knocks wood*
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H1ppychick
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Do we think Lilo has lapsed into an alcohol-induced coma?
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I had to go and buy an Xbox. Which is my Christmas present from my mum. But she didn't know which bundle I wanted. blah blah blah. I'VE GOT AN XBOX! Well. I'll have it for reals on Christmas day. Now I'm going to the pub. With the aim to slip into an alcohol induced coma by ten.
quote:Originally posted by Lilo: I had to go and buy an Xbox. Which is my Christmas present from my mum. But she didn't know which bundle I wanted. blah blah blah. I'VE GOT AN XBOX! Well. I'll have it for reals on Christmas day. Now I'm going to the pub. With the aim to slip into an alcohol induced coma by ten.
Thank you all for being nice!
Watch out. Won't be long before Tilde is hassling you for online gaming fun.
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the right one - the one that isn't causing its manufacturers to implode due to mismanagement and weak sales - is the xbox 360.
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Lilo's probably out of her face, sitting against the wall in a grimy pool hall, with benway flicking the bubbles out of a heroin needle and putting it into her lifeless arm.
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Sorry to hear about the sacking Lilo, although I'd second what Hippy said, from what you've described you could take them apart in court with even a semi-competent lawyer.
We're currently in a redundancy drive, 10% of the UK workforce to be culled, I'm hoping our team won't be affected since we're only a 3 man team, each with highly specialised roles, but if being made redundant from my last job taught me one thing it's that it's worth preparing for the worst.
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H1ppychick
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quote:Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts: the right one - the one that isn't causing its manufacturers to implode due to mismanagement and weak sales - is the xbox 360.
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But...I got an XBox 360. A 60gb one. With that Lips game that has cordless mics. And Kung Fu Panda which I don't care about at all. Oh, and lego Indiana Jones.
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quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: Xmas
I've often wondered...what's the X stand for?
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quote: In 1436 Johannes Gutenberg invented the printing press with moveable type. In the early days of printing typesetting was done by hand and was very tedious and expensive. As a result, abbreviations were common. In religious publications, the church began to use the abbreviation C for the word "Christ" to cut down on the cost of the books and pamphlets. From there, the abbreviation moved into general use in newspapers and other publications, and "Xmas" became an accepted way of printing "Christmas" (along with the abbreviations Xian and Xianity). Even Webster’s dictionary acknowledges that the abbreviation Xmas was in common use by the middle of the sixteenth century.