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Is Lunch club going to have to move again benway? We're all happy here, don't let Thorn drive us out of our house again
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No, I think it's a brilliant term. I'm going to start making small pieces of food, and giving them a name with an accent on so that people will buy them in the belief that they're getting something authentic and unusual.
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just because it's the first time you've heard it doesn't mean it's exotic or bizarre. A baguette is 2 metres long. A baton is like a foot, and is half as wide. I've known this since I worked in a co-op supermarket, aged 16, and used to have to bake bread. Why even say baguette when you could say 'length of bread'? These things have names. when you buy them from a supermarket, look next time if they are labelled. They aren't called 'short, thin baguettes'.
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Chicken. A small, regular chicken egg. What do you call that if the very idea of appending adjectives to words is so ludicrous?
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I mean, depends which species of bird. I don't know much about any eggs other than hen's and quail's eggs. I suppose if they were quail's eggs, I'd call them 'quail's eggs'. However, if they were fish eggs, which are very small, I might call them 'caviar'. Presumably you'd go for 'tiny eggs of the sea' or something, for fear of sounding like a pompous ass.
quote:Originally posted by Kanye West: I mean, depends which species of bird. I don't know much about any eggs other than hen's and quail's eggs. I suppose if they were quail's eggs, I'd call them 'quail's eggs'. However, if they were fish eggs, which are very small, I might call them 'caviar'. Presumably you'd go for 'tiny eggs of the sea' or something, for fear of sounding like a pompous ass.
But the properties of fish eggs are very different to hen's eggs. We're talking about something which is exactly the same, but for size. This is exactly like when you were saying that Mikee shouldn't be allowed to call himself a 'person' and should seek some other designation so that he wouldn't be confused with what you called 'real people', who were often longer and wider than him.
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quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: Chicken. A small, regular chicken egg. What do you call that if the very idea of appending adjectives to words is so ludicrous?
Probably a small egg. Hey, I'm not knocking the idea of a small baguette. If you want to call batons 'small baguettes', that's your call. It's weird, but also quite sweet, that you think I'm using an overly exotic word. I wasn't trying to talk down to anybody. As I said, maybe it's just leftover from my time of baking and selling this stuff. In a shop, a baton and a baguette are two different things, and they don't refer to 'large baguettes' and 'small baguettes'. It was described as a baton from the shop I bought it from, and in my mind it's a baton.
What's more interesting is why you feel the need to even pick me up on this, and keep arguing about it even when I've given a perfectly reasonable explanation.
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I hate Valentine's Day. Stupid commercialised crap
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Perhaps Thorn would prefer it if all different types of bread were called {string of adjectives}-bread. So pitta would be flat-unleavened-bread, naan would be Indian-yeast-dough-baked-in-a-tandoor-bread and burger buns would be sesame-seed-round-small-bread-for-slicing-and-putting-burgers-in.
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Another spurious argument. As you point out, all those breads are made in different ways, with different ingredients. This is something with the same crust and crumb. Ha ha, yes your post is very sarcastic and clever lol wouldn't it be ludicrous to only describe things in terms of their constituent parts, but as I point out it's equally ludicrous, if not more so to give something a new name even though it's the same thing but a bit bigger or smaller.
If I baked something that was somewhere in between the size of the average 'baton' or 'baguette' could I claim to have invented a new type of bread? No - obviously not. You and Benway would doubtless be the first to tear down my achievement. Of course, I would have the last laugh when, at the launch of my new bread Octavia shouted "That's not a new type of bread. It's just an oversized baton." Then Benway would shout, "No - I don't think so it looks more like an undersized baguette to me" causing you to descend into a pointless and humiliating argument that proved my point completely.
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I didn't invent the word baton, I don't even know what your point is.. that the word shouldn't exist? That I shouldn't consider a baton to be a baton? Creating more and more fanasy scenarios about people baking different shaped loaves isn't going to prove anything here because the word exists. This whole thing seems to be resting on the idea that this is somehow a ridiculous, almost nonsensical word, but it's an actual thing - this is reality, not a conspiracy to confuse you. It doesn't matter if it troubles you that there is a word to describe a specific form of bread, the word still exists, and is commonly used by producers and consumers of the thing.
quote: There are some breads that are named after places, but the majority of loaves are named after their shape. Baguette translates to mean 'rod,' and batard can mean either bastard or hybrid, as its shape is a hybrid of the baguette and the traditional boule (which means 'ball' in French and refers to the bread's round shape). Then there's the ficelle (string) which is a thinner baguette, the baton (staff or baton) which is a shorter baguette, and filone (stick) which is sort of like a baton but with pointed ends.
This whole thing seems to be more about the fact that you've never heard of it, therefore it's showy, like the limits of your knowledge represent the limits of all valid knowledge, and anything beyond becomes spurious and unnecessary. As if I came into the thread thinking 'this'll show them, I'll use the word baton', when in my mind, this is what the thing is called, and actually, that's the correct term. As I said, why this upsets you so much, (and why you can't accept what I'm telling you) is the interesting part, and it seems to be taking us right back to the infernal affairs debacle, where I was 'showing off' for liking that film more than its remake, because the original wasn't American. I mean... Do you think that I think that the word baton is exotic? Even though I'm telling you that, having baked both baguettes and batons in a co-op supermarket, this couldn't be further from the truth, and both have dismal connotations of teenage drudgery for me rather than.. I don't know.. I don't even know what you think I think using the word baton is going to get me. Blowjobs from female forumites? Kudos from cherry for having a sandwich? Ringo secretly having new-found respect for me because I ate a baton?
This is all pointless. You're arguing that the word shouldn't exist, and it does. You're also saying that I'm using it in a showy way, when in truth, I didn't think twice about it, I've known these particular bread designs to be batons for fifteen years. So I don't know what you're trying to tell me / us.
quote:Originally posted by Kanye West: the limits of your knowledge represent the limits of all valid knowledge, and anything beyond becomes spurious and unnecessary.
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In an ideal world I wouldn't go for lunch at 11.30, however that is when the canteen opens and the salad is pretty good if you're there at 11.30
However, if you're there at 11.45 you're left with delights such as
Spinach and bacon with all the bacon picked out. Oriental chicken noodles sans chicken waldorf salad with no walnuts or apple roasted vegetable cous cous that appears to have no vegetables in it mozarella, tomato and basil that appears to be entirely lacking in cheese.
It's quite funny really. You notice all the people queueing up to get in and rush to the salad counter are all quite overweight and they run up there and ignore all the salady bits and healthy stuff and just take out all the meat and high fat bits from the salad leaving it all pretty dull and unappetising for everyone after them. I bet they go home to their wives and husbands and sob saying "I don't understand why I'm not losing weight, I always just have a salad for lunch". Wankers.
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'sans' seems like an uneccesarily cosmopolitan way of saying 'without'. Be careful with that kind of thing around here.
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quote:Originally posted by Kanye West: 'sans' seems like an uneccesarily cosmopolitan way of saying 'without'. Be careful with that kind of thing around here.
'cosmopolitan' seems like an unneccesarily cosmopolitan way of saying 'French'.