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Kanye West
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i hope you regularly mention your favourite podcast on tmt.
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quote:
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That's great Benway. Broken legs and all that. My girlfriend is at an audition at this very moment.

I hope she breaks her legs.
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Cherry In Hove
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quote:
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i hope you regularly mention your favourite podcast on tmt.

I shall start mentioning it Benway. I'm not sure it will get you many new listeners as very few people very are interested in computer games.
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Cherry In Hove
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Visit controllerthrow.com to hear about games you probably beat a year ago!
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mart
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Jimmy Cliff.
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Kanye West
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do they give you shit about your stupid plates over there? Or are you revered as some kind of professor of dinner? Do you have a different attitude there? A different persona?
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Ringo

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There's something really wrong with the world when people are spending hundreds of pounds on shit looking plates just so they can take pictures of their dinners which may or may not taste like warm shit, just to impress a bunch of cretins on the internet.
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Kanye West
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I'm a cretin, on the internet. I'm also a "cretin on the internet".
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Cherry In Hove
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They hate my plates. Really really hate them.
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Kanye West
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good.
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Cherry In Hove
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quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
There's something really wrong with the world when people are spending hundreds of pounds on shit looking plates just so they can take pictures of their dinners which may or may not taste like warm shit, just to impress a bunch of cretins on the internet.

I'm spending money on plates because I love cooking and eating and I like food to look nice. I like having people around for dinner and it would be nice to have a nice dinner service to dish stuff up on. It isn't just to impress people on the internet. Anyway, £200 for something you're going to use daily for years isn't really a lot of money.
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Kanye West
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£200 for something you're going to use daily for years isn't really a lot of money.

you're right. I'd be an idiot not to go with star trek.
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Cherry In Hove
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I ended up getting a Tesco Finest Roast Beef sandwich reduced to £1.65 and a half price ginsters chicken and mushroom slice which was 79p. I'm not sure this is as slimming as soup but it was quite cheap. Still 2 1/2 times as expensive as soup.
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Octavia
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quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
There's something really wrong with the world when people are spending hundreds of pounds on shit looking plates just so they can take pictures of their dinners which may or may not taste like warm shit, just to impress a bunch of cretins on the internet.

I'm spending money on plates because I love cooking and eating and I like food to look nice. I like having people around for dinner and it would be nice to have a nice dinner service to dish stuff up on. It isn't just to impress people on the internet. Anyway, £200 for something you're going to use daily for years isn't really a lot of money.
Didn't we have this whole argument years ago with Mikee and ben?
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Cherry In Hove
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Yes. Mikee was right, Ben was wrong and that is why Ben left the boards because he was so ashamed about being so wrong.
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Ringo

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quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
I love cooking and eating and I like food to look nice.

quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
I ended up getting a Tesco Finest Roast Beef sandwich reduced to £1.65 and a half price ginsters chicken and mushroom slice which was 79p.

Hmmm...
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Cherry In Hove
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FINEST
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Ringo

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quote:
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Yes. Mikee was right, Ben was wrong and that is why Ben left the boards because he was so ashamed about being so wrong.

Well, I think that was a little bit different. Mikee was on about impliments for cooking, not about fancy plates. Plates which, by the looks of it, are only distinguishable from these cheap ones because they have a slight geometrical difference in the shape of the rim. And while you could happily argue that high-end cookware does ultimately contribute towards the quality of the meal produced, I think you'd have a harder time justifying the same claim with regards to two almost-identical plates. Certainly not to the degree that you'd pay something like twenty times the amount for one.

Anyway, whatever. I really don't care that much. It just seems like completely bizarre behaviour to me. Not wanting your food to look good. I can understand that. But the whole taking pictures thing. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

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Octavia
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Actually cheap plates break a lot more easily, so it can be worth spending more. If it's for nice stuff that you'd get pleasure out of looking at/using on a daily basis then why not? I'm sure CiH isn't JUST planning to use them as online-photo props. I spent money before Christmas on wooden wall-racks for the kitchen that I didn't need, but absolutely love.
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Cherry In Hove
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Well, the reason for posting the pictures isn't just to show off, it is also to share around ideas for food. I get loads of ideas for food from that site and so it is good to have pictures. Obviously you can just go for recipes but it is a lot quicker to have a quick scan at a picture to see if it is something you are going to like and steal ideas from that it is to read the recipe.

Yes the plates ultimately don't make a difference but I like eating from nice plates. It makes me feel happy to sit down to a meal with everything looking as good as possible and cooking and eating is something that uses all of your senses and whilst sight might not be as important to the process as smell and taste, it still helps making a nice meal slightly more pleasurable. And as I said, £200 for something that will be used for years really isn't much.

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Ringo

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If you like eating from nice plates, why have you been using those horrible white and black things for so long?
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Cherry In Hove
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I don't mind them. I think they're alright.
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Ringo

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Bah, I just don't understand you CiH. It's like we're from different planets.
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I find what CiH does with the taking of pictures of his dishes and posting them on Flickr to be sort of, I don't know, there's something about it I like. Admire even. It's clear he really is passionate about the creating of the food and taken a picture is helping to remember each occasion. I've cooked meals literally years ago and forgotten about them... wondered why I'd never made the dish again. That sort of thing. Bear in mind though, I think his plates are gaylords and if they came around my manor my fragile white ones would kick their asses.

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Ringo

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For me, a plate is just something to stop the dinner going on your lap.
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It's almost like people attach different levels of importance to different things. For example, for me a car is just something for getting from A to B which is why I drive an ancient second hand skoda that cost me nothing. It is something that I have no interest in improving as I like to spend as little time in a car as possible and so as long as it runs that is fine with me but to you a car is something that you like and are prepared to spend more money on.
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Ringo

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Which would make a lot of sense if I had no interest whatsoever in food. But as my rapidly expanding waistline can attest - nothing could be further from the truth. But the photos thing. It just seems like showing off to me. Yes, you can try and justify it by saying that you're sharing your meal ideas with other people but I don't really buy that. I get the impression that the whole point of the exercise is to show off how much time and attention youve put into making this meal. The implication being that you're a good cook. It's a cock waving display designed to make other think you're some kind of culinary wizard.

Maybe I'm wrong. But that's the impression I get.

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Kanye West
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i'm half and half really. I can understand the point of enhancing the aesthetics of food.. like every city dwelling middle class **** , I like the festishism of japanese food presentation. I suppose there's more of a sense of pride if the plate looks good, and the gratification created by the rituals is enhanced when the rituals have been thrust into prominance by increasing the 'quality' of the associated paraphenalia. However, this idea of food conforming to an aesthetic is a minefield in terms of our relationship with food, how food is used socially, how things like class and culture can inform our understanding of food and therefore can affect our view of each other, and in a way I can see an advantage to trying to strip as much of that out as possible by perhaps focusing on the taste /texture of the food, which seems to me to be experiencing in a pure sensual form, uncluttered by trying to fit it into a social template. It's a folly though, probably - asceticism is still a response, and is packaged around whatever it is reacting to. There is no real way of stripping class and culture from any human activity, but I feel like so often these things decrease our flexibility in terms of how we see ourselves, our fellow man, and the world in general.

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Cherry In Hove
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I do like it when people ask me for recipes so i suppose in that way it is a cock-waving thing, but I'm not doing it so that people will go "oh wow your food looks so good" as that is of no interest to me, but if I can pass on knowledge of recipes or techniques or something that other people then go onto use, that is what I'm looking for.

Again, the new plates will make no difference at all to this, and it is entirely mental as it clearly won't change the way things taste, but it something that I feel will increase my enjoyment of meals and so I think it is money well spent.

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quote:
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I get the impression that the whole point of the exercise is to show off how much time and attention youve put into making this meal. The implication being that you're a good cook. It's a cock waving display designed to make other think you're some kind of culinary wizard.

Is this different, somehow, to you posting pictures of you drifting, or a picture of a car with some words explaining modifications you've made or are planning to make?
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Food beats Cars. Simple.

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Ringo

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I think it’s because ultimately the purpose of creating a meal is for it to be eaten, not for it to be seen. And through sharing these pictures you can’t possibly give an idea of the quality of the actual cooking, which is why I have such trouble understanding it. The meal itself may be absolutely horrible. Thinking about it, making food look nice and making food taste nice are two completely different things. If I was making a meal I’d definitely be putting all my effort into the flavour of the meal rather than the presentation. It’s not to say I’d just whack it on a plate and be done with it. But once I’d made a meal the last thing I’d ever think to do is grab a camera.

I don’t think you can really compare this directly with me and my interest in cars and motorsports. For instance – putting up a picture of me driving my car would surely be more comparable to someone putting up a picture of them eating the meal they’ve made. It’s not a case of saying that people shouldn’t express the fact that they’re interested in something. It’s this bias towards the aesthetic elements which I find a bit difficult to get to grips with. While I do a lot of mechanical stuff to my car so I can use it for specific things, the car itself is visually very standard. I wouldn’t get any more pleasure from driving it if it had some £1000 gold hubcaps on it. That’s just showing off. Cock waving.

And like I say – making food look nice doesn’t actually imply any particular skill on the part of the cook. So it seems doubly pointless.

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i think that the difference is that the arena of middle class dining seems like a far more aspirationally aggressive and individualist pursuit than that of more working class large-group activities such as car meets. You could of course say that there's nothing working class about a load of toffs comparing notes on their classic 1920s racers, but the custom car thing - ricers etc - is geared around a more working class, multi- ethnic inclusive culture, as is heavily emphasised by things like Fast and Furious when representing it. The fashion, music, surrounding media and group organization suggests this. In a way the two things - middle class dining and eastern car import customising - represent the traditional vocational / family / social structure of the two different groups.

Of course, that's not to say one is better than the other - they're just ways of managing social situations - , but you can see how they are comparable yet incompatible in terms of motivation, philosophy, history, and meaning.

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And like I say – making food look nice doesn’t actually imply any particular skill on the part of the cook.

lol

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Kanye West
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everything I wrote there is bullshit, just thinking out loud really, glorifying working class culture because of perceptions of authenticity that you acquire when you're plagued inadequacy and battling with an ongoing crisis of masculinity. Over bearing father figure isn't it.

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