Author
Topic: Quick grammar help needed!
Uber Trick
DANGER!
posted 05.07.2005 06:23
Could anyone help me with a quick grammar question as I have to get a presentation out in 10 mins - is it "expect of" or "expect from"?uberwench
Posts: 4782
| IP: Logged
Darryn.R
TMO Admin
posted 05.07.2005 06:24
in what context ?
Posts: 6962
| IP: Logged
Uber Trick
DANGER!
posted 05.07.2005 06:26
The slide title is "What we expect of people with asthma"uberwench
Posts: 4782
| IP: Logged
Darryn.R
TMO Admin
posted 05.07.2005 06:30
As in: Our expectations of asthma sufferers ?[ 05.07.2005, 06:31: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
Posts: 6962
| IP: Logged
Uber Trick
DANGER!
posted 05.07.2005 06:31
That would make it an altogether different type of presentation, and perhaps slightly more interesting!uberwench
Posts: 4782
| IP: Logged
Uber Trick
DANGER!
posted 05.07.2005 06:33
Yes, what we expect them to do - the following slide is "What we expect [of / from] the health care professional"uberwench
Posts: 4782
| IP: Logged
Darryn.R
TMO Admin
posted 05.07.2005 06:33
Is it what we expect you asthma sufferers to do ?
Posts: 6962
| IP: Logged
Darryn.R
TMO Admin
posted 05.07.2005 06:35
Prolly From then
Posts: 6962
| IP: Logged
Black Mask
posted 05.07.2005 06:35
'of asthma sufferers' and 'from healthcare professionals'
Posts: 13919
| IP: Logged
Darryn.R
TMO Admin
posted 05.07.2005 06:35
Oh, you say tomato, I say potato
Posts: 6962
| IP: Logged
Darryn.R
TMO Admin
posted 05.07.2005 06:36
I agree with Barry
Posts: 6962
| IP: Logged
Uber Trick
DANGER!
posted 05.07.2005 06:36
Wouldn't FOR be what we want for them?uberwench
Posts: 4782
| IP: Logged
Black Mask
posted 05.07.2005 06:37
In the case of the asthma sufferes you're talking about your expectations. In the case of the carers you're talking about their participation and contribution.
Posts: 13919
| IP: Logged
ben
posted 05.07.2005 06:37
Shouldn't the asthma sufferers be the ones doing the expecting?
Posts: 8657
| IP: Logged
Black Mask
posted 05.07.2005 06:40
It took a mighty big thread to topple the French cuisine debate but Oobs pulled it out of the hat.
Posts: 13919
| IP: Logged
Darryn.R
TMO Admin
posted 05.07.2005 06:42
Here is what we expect from the asthma patient ?[ 05.07.2005, 06:44: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
Posts: 6962
| IP: Logged
ben
posted 05.07.2005 06:42
I don't know. 'Expect of' in this case seems like a mealy-mouthed way of saying 'What we need them to do is...'
Posts: 8657
| IP: Logged
MiscellaneousFiles
posted 05.07.2005 06:43
What we expect of them = that which they would be expected to do What we expect from them = that which they would be expected to provide
Posts: 14015
| IP: Logged
dang65
it's all the rage
posted 05.07.2005 06:45
quote: Originally posted by Black Mask: It took a mighty big thread to topple the French cuisine debate but Oobs pulled it out of the hat. See, they've even got better prepositions. It would be "des" in either case in French.
Posts: 8467
| IP: Logged
ben
posted 05.07.2005 06:45
"t8ke PWN3rsh1p of yr pr0bl3m, wh33z33 n00b5!!1!!1!!!!1!!1!
Posts: 8657
| IP: Logged
MiscellaneousFiles
posted 05.07.2005 06:46
or maybe...What we expect of them = what you think they will doWhat we expect from them = what you want them to do
Posts: 14015
| IP: Logged
New Way Of Decay
posted 05.07.2005 06:47
quote: Originally posted by ben: I don't know. 'Expect of' in this case seems like a mealy-mouthed way of saying 'What we need them to do is...' Saying that implies that they have no choice in the matter, or room for failure to meet expectations, so saying 'what we need them to do is...' invites room for incomplete expectations.BUY A TICKET AND WATCH SOME METAL
Posts: 11617
| IP: Logged
Black Mask
posted 05.07.2005 06:49
Here is what we expect from asthma sufferers
Posts: 13919
| IP: Logged
Black Mask
posted 05.07.2005 06:51
Here is what we expect of healthcare professionals
Posts: 13919
| IP: Logged
dang65
it's all the rage
posted 05.07.2005 06:52
I hope there's no asthma sufferers reading this thread. It's just the sort of thing that sets them off.
Posts: 8467
| IP: Logged
Uber Trick
DANGER!
posted 05.07.2005 06:52
I had to go with "of" in the end. It was written by Asthma UK, a presentation on "Controlling Asthma: the patients perspective" in case you were desperate to know. Thanks for all your help though.uberwench
Posts: 4782
| IP: Logged
ben
posted 05.07.2005 06:53
quote: Originally posted by New Way Of Decay: Saying that implies that they have no choice in the matter, or room for failure to meet expectations, so saying 'what we need them to do is...' invites room for incomplete expectations. Your post is confusing - I suspect you might mean the opposite of what you've written. Await confirmation.
Posts: 8657
| IP: Logged
Darryn.R
TMO Admin
posted 05.07.2005 06:54
quote: Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: or maybe...What we expect of them = what you think they will doWhat we expect from them = what you want them to do That's what I thought, but now I'm not sure anymore.
Posts: 6962
| IP: Logged
Black Mask
posted 05.07.2005 06:57
It's true, and dang's right. They wouldn't be having a debate like this in France. They'd all be lying around in their own filth, snorting runny cheese and sucking off their children, having a whale of a time.
Posts: 13919
| IP: Logged
![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Printer-friendly view of this topic