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There was a very interesting documentary about the Liverpool poets on Radio 4 last year. Unfortunately, I can't remember much about it.
I think they suffer from that syndrome of having been really fresh and original when they first came out, but being such old hat now that there's nothing to excite anyone any more. There's quite a big difference between 'original' and 'timeless' I suppose. 'Timeless' doesn't have to be original, and 'original' can date really badly.
Hey, anyone remember John Cooper Clarke?
Please, no one do anything in the style of John Cooper Clarke. Or that Birmingham equivalent of him. Black guy. What's his name?
In fact, pretty much any regional accent based poetry is out isn't it? Except William McGonagal, the honorable exception. The honorable exception to pretty much anything actually.
Edit: Benjamin Zephaniah, that's the chap.
From his own website (so possibly chosen by him as a shining example of his work):
quote:Propa Propaganda
They put a leather belt around her 13 feet of tape and bound her Handcuffs to secure her And only God knows what else, She's illegal, so deport her Said the Empire that brought her She died, Nobody killed her And she never killed herself. It is our job to make her Return to Jamaica Said the Alien Deporters Who deports people like me, It was said she had a warning That the officers were calling On that deadly July morning As her young son watched TV.
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Thorn's drilling issue: Is it something to do with making tube-type tunnels? Working around a big circular thing which supports the side of the tunnel, then filling in with girrrders?
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I saw Roger McGough live in 1994. He read his poem, Conservative Government Unemployment Figures, which was famously taken from a newspaper headline.
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Pretty bad, but you have to admit, there's been worse:
Don't be fooled by the rocks that I got, I'm still, I'm still Jenny from the block. I used to have a little, now I have a lot. But I still know where I came from.
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Why all of this fuss about the Liverpool Poets? Did their work contain elegance and wit? Or is this defence because, down at WHSmith, They didn’t make the top ten of ‘The Nation’s Favourite…’?
I’m vaguely familiar with Roger McGough Probably because I watched television in 1980 But I couldn’t for the life of me name the other two Or any work that any of them have produced lately
I’m a little suspicious of these Liverpool Poets You see, I think they have to shoulder some blame If they hadn’t existed, we wouldn’t have had Craig Charles In all his post Red Dwarf, rape ‘n’ cocaine shame
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By Sidney, aged eight
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Very quiet isn't it. Where the frigging tits is everyone? Working? Being responsible, managing their lives? Reading BBC news over and over again? Posting on 'the other forum'?, gazing, chewing, buying lunch? Man.
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Right now, I bet Bandy is giving a sales pitch. He's clicking through a powerpoint presentation to a group of three or four people in a smallish room with a glass door. Click click click. Tailored to the needs of your business. It's in Reading or Slough or Guildford. He can hear his ipod from inside his bag. You never get enough water in thouse little plastic cups, but you don't want to keep asking for more.
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: Where the frigging tits is everyone? Working? Being responsible, managing their lives? Reading BBC news over and over again? Posting on 'the other forum'?, gazing, chewing, buying lunch? Man.
I've been reading about houseplant pests on another forum. Damn fungus fly larvae all over my plants, chomping on the roots and making my leaves wilt.
The Solution: Nematodes - tiny organisms which feed on the larvae and restore balance to the Force. I've just ordered six million of them and I plan to unleash them in a few days. The packet is marked Natural Born Killers, lol.
If anyone turns up, they could write a poem about indoor garden pest control, in the style of Chaucer.
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Scrawny, on the other hand, just realised that the marketing analysis she's working on for a small b2b media company doesn't have to be ready until the end of next week, but she was rushing to get it done. As a result, she's gone to the deli nearby to get some olives for lunch, and to pick up a mother's day card. She's going to forget the card though, after being distracted by the new Molton Brown shop by the station (something for bandy maybe?). When she returns, she'll need to call a guy from the conference company to try and sort out some more places. Then she eats a yoghurt, and looks at websites for renting villas in the south of France.
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I didn't do any work yesterday because I was writing fucking poetry. So now I'm explaining how standardization is important to the worlds of micro and nanotechnology. I'm writing it really fast.
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sweet. I'm testing learning packages to be delivered over the intranet. I test them in two versions of Sun Java, then on Microsoft Virtual Machine, then I fill in some cells in excel. Right now I'm copying and URLS, and have been for two days. It's the kind of work that you can only do for so long.
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I would like Benway to write a poem in any style of his choosing about what I am doing today.
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I've been posting on "the other forum"- I got a shag out of one of their meats, which is more than TMO ever did for me.
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No offence, but don't turn my lovely poetry thread into chat! Why not start the traditional Friday 'Weak End Planz' thread?
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