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dang65
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There was a very interesting documentary about the Liverpool poets on Radio 4 last year. Unfortunately, I can't remember much about it.

I think they suffer from that syndrome of having been really fresh and original when they first came out, but being such old hat now that there's nothing to excite anyone any more. There's quite a big difference between 'original' and 'timeless' I suppose. 'Timeless' doesn't have to be original, and 'original' can date really badly.

Hey, anyone remember John Cooper Clarke?

Please, no one do anything in the style of John Cooper Clarke. Or that Birmingham equivalent of him. Black guy. What's his name?

In fact, pretty much any regional accent based poetry is out isn't it? Except William McGonagal, the honorable exception. The honorable exception to pretty much anything actually.

Edit: Benjamin Zephaniah, that's the chap.

From his own website (so possibly chosen by him as a shining example of his work):

quote:
Propa Propaganda

They put a leather belt around her
13 feet of tape and bound her
Handcuffs to secure her
And only God knows what else,
She's illegal, so deport her
Said the Empire that brought her
She died,
Nobody killed her
And she never killed herself.
It is our job to make her
Return to Jamaica
Said the Alien Deporters
Who deports people like me,
It was said she had a warning
That the officers were calling
On that deadly July morning
As her young son watched TV.

from 'The Death of Joy Gardner'



[ 24.03.2006, 05:52: Message edited by: dang65 ]

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herbs

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Thorn's drilling issue: Is it something to do with making tube-type tunnels? Working around a big circular thing which supports the side of the tunnel, then filling in with girrrders?

Either that, or its bumlove.

[ 24.03.2006, 05:48: Message edited by: herbs ]

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MiscellaneousFiles

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I saw Roger McGough live in 1994. He read his poem, Conservative Government Unemployment Figures, which was famously taken from a newspaper headline.

quote:
Conservative government.
Unemployment?
Figures.

I don't think I've been to a poetry reading since.
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Satine
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Pretty bad, but you have to admit, there's been worse:

Don't be fooled by the rocks that I got,
I'm still, I'm still Jenny from the block.
I used to have a little, now I have a lot.
But I still know where I came from.


[ 24.03.2006, 06:00: Message edited by: Satine ]

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Black Mask

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EVIDENTLY
CHICKEN TOWN


the fucking cops are fucking keen
to fucking keep it fucking clean

the fucking chief's a fucking swine

who fucking draws a fucking line

at fucking fun and fucking games

the fucking kids he fucking blames

are nowehere to be fucking found

anywhere in chicken town


the fucking scene is fucking sad

the fucking news is fucking bad

the fucking weed is fucking turf

the fucking speed is fucking surf

the fucking folks are fucking daft

don't make me fucking laugh

it fucking hurts to look around

everywhere in chicken town


the fucking train is fucking late

you fucking wait you fucking wait

you're fucking lost and fucking found

stuck in fucking chicken town


the fucking view is fucking vile

for fucking miles and fucking miles

the fucking babies fucking cry

the fucking flowers fucking die

the fucking food is fucking muck

the fucking drains are fucking fucked

the colour scheme is fucking brown

everywhere in chicken town


the fucking pubs are fucking dull

the fucking clubs are fucking full

of fucking girls and fucking guys

with fucking murder in their eyes

a fucking bloke is fucking stabbed

waiting for a fucking cab

you fucking stay at fucking home

the fucking neighbors fucking moan

keep the fucking racket down

this is fucking chicken town


the fucking train is fucking late

you fucking wait you fucking wait

you're fucking lost and fucking found

stuck in fucking chicken town


the fucking pies are fucking old

the fucking chips are fucking cold

the fucking beer is fucking flat

the fucking flats have fucking rats

the fucking clocks are fucking wrong

the fucking days are fucking long

it fucking gets you fucking down

evidently chicken town


LYRICS © JOHN COOPER CLARKE

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London

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Thorn, you varmint: that wasn't tunnel jacking, that was pushing rope.
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Sidney
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Why all of this fuss about the Liverpool Poets?
Did their work contain elegance and wit?
Or is this defence because, down at WHSmith,
They didn’t make the top ten of ‘The Nation’s Favourite…’?

I’m vaguely familiar with Roger McGough
Probably because I watched television in 1980
But I couldn’t for the life of me name the other two
Or any work that any of them have produced lately

I’m a little suspicious of these Liverpool Poets
You see, I think they have to shoulder some blame
If they hadn’t existed, we wouldn’t have had Craig Charles
In all his post Red Dwarf, rape ‘n’ cocaine shame

THE END

By Sidney, aged eight

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dang65
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quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
EVIDENTLY CHICKEN TOWN

*sticks fucking fork in fucking eyes*
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London

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Can I have a poem about the Britpop era in the style of some Pulp lyrics?
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Dr. Benway

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I doubt it.

Very quiet isn't it. Where the frigging tits is everyone? Working? Being responsible, managing their lives? Reading BBC news over and over again? Posting on 'the other forum'?, gazing, chewing, buying lunch? Man.

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vikram

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i am bored.
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vikram

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cyi benway (yahoo)
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Dr. Benway

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Right now, I bet Bandy is giving a sales pitch. He's clicking through a powerpoint presentation to a group of three or four people in a smallish room with a glass door. Click click click. Tailored to the needs of your business. It's in Reading or Slough or Guildford. He can hear his ipod from inside his bag. You never get enough water in thouse little plastic cups, but you don't want to keep asking for more.

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MiscellaneousFiles

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quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Benway:
Where the frigging tits is everyone? Working? Being responsible, managing their lives? Reading BBC news over and over again? Posting on 'the other forum'?, gazing, chewing, buying lunch? Man.

I've been reading about houseplant pests on another forum. Damn fungus fly larvae all over my plants, chomping on the roots and making my leaves wilt.

The Solution: Nematodes - tiny organisms which feed on the larvae and restore balance to the Force. I've just ordered six million of them and I plan to unleash them in a few days. The packet is marked Natural Born Killers, lol.

If anyone turns up, they could write a poem about indoor garden pest control, in the style of Chaucer.

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ralph

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quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Benway:
Posting on 'the other forum'?

What other forum?
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Dr. Benway

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Scrawny, on the other hand, just realised that the marketing analysis she's working on for a small b2b media company doesn't have to be ready until the end of next week, but she was rushing to get it done. As a result, she's gone to the deli nearby to get some olives for lunch, and to pick up a mother's day card. She's going to forget the card though, after being distracted by the new Molton Brown shop by the station (something for bandy maybe?). When she returns, she'll need to call a guy from the conference company to try and sort out some more places. Then she eats a yoghurt, and looks at websites for renting villas in the south of France.

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London

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I didn't do any work yesterday because I was writing fucking poetry. So now I'm explaining how standardization is important to the worlds of micro and nanotechnology. I'm writing it really fast.
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Dr. Benway

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sweet. I'm testing learning packages to be delivered over the intranet. I test them in two versions of Sun Java, then on Microsoft Virtual Machine, then I fill in some cells in excel. Right now I'm copying and URLS, and have been for two days. It's the kind of work that you can only do for so long.

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Sidney
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I would like Benway to write a poem in any style of his choosing about what I am doing today.

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Abby
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Nematodes are cool. But Damo might come and shoot them.

Oh, how did the ant farm come along Herbs(I think?)...are they alive still?

I have just got back from lunch which was gruesome, but this morning I gave a seminar which was widely reviewed as 'good'.

I’m pretty bored now, and my poetry isn’t up to much…what are you all doing this weekend?

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Vogon Poetess

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I've been posting on "the other forum"- I got a shag out of one of their meats, which is more than TMO ever did for me.

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What I object to is the colour of some of these wheelie bins and where they are left, in some areas outside all week in the front garden.

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London

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No offence, but don't turn my lovely poetry thread into chat! Why not start the traditional Friday 'Weak End Planz' thread?
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London

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Where is the 'other forum'? Handbag? I'm so out of the loop.
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quote:
Originally posted by Vogon Poetess:
I got a shag out of one of their meats, which is more than TMO ever did for me.

You can't go banging on about the taste of your honey to your mates and then let a stranger dip his finger in for a taste. It's rude.

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New Way Of Decay

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Also, it was Bamba with the ant farm.

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quote:
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which is more than TMO ever did for me.

not for lack of trying
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London

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Louche! And she posted the other day to say that ant farms were not as much fun as she'd been led to expect.
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New Way Of Decay

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Don't leave yourself
logged in
logged
in
Don't leave yourself
You
Outside
Car Park after work
Scuffles

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Dr. Benway

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actually that's so bad I'm sorry

[ 24.03.2006, 08:51: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]

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ralph

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quote:
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Louche! And she posted the other day to say that ant farms were not as much fun as she'd been led to expect.

I think the ants died. [Frown]

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quote:
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If anyone turns up, they could write a poem about indoor garden pest control, in the style of Chaucer.

Inspiration:

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Louche
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The ants
Are not dead
But nor
Do they move much

They come out at night
At 3am
And usually I am
Not there

In daytime they are
Apathetic
Stupid boring ants
Rubbish

Sometimes, if cruel
Shaking
The farm
Makes them fun

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Louche
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Also, their tunnelling
Is not
very speedy
at all.

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Louche
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Though when underlit
They're sweet:

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Dr. Benway

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I had sea monkeys
my friend drank some
and the rest
were spilt in my lap.

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