One Snickers bar (or Marathon if you live in the past)
Two (no more, no less) parecetamol tablets with 1/2 a 12oz can of 7up
1 bag of Ready Salted Crisps
Rest of 7up
I've always though hangover cures to be a bit shit, but having seen him almost unable to move, to 30 mins later "up and at 'em" makes me wish I got hungover to try it!
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quote:Originally posted by sabian: <smug> I don't get hangovers </smug>
That's because Americans only ever drink two pints before they pass out.
There was a great documentary once about the hard-drinking culture among British airline pilots and cabin crew - the ludicrous but unforgettable "experiment" that formed the centrepiece of the programme was to give a crew of American pilots the equivalent amounts of alcohol drunk by British pilots and film the results in a flight simulator.
By the time the Americans had the equivalent of half a bottle of vodka in them they were all fighting or crying or face down over the instrument panels. When they reached barely half of what British crews were alleged to consume the announcer intoned: "The crew has completely lost control of the plane." I will have a look on YouTube for that tonight.
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lol. I might actually watch telly if there was more stuff like that on. Perhaps there could have been a whole series comparing the effects of alcohol on different nationalities, in different jobs?
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quote:Originally posted by ben: That's because Americans only ever drink two pints before they pass out.
Yeah... I suppose if America was the country of mediocrity and despair that Britain is, us Yanks may have more of a tolerance too borne of an effort to forget just how shit we really have it.
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quote:Originally posted by sabian: Yeah... I suppose if America was the country of mediocrity and despair that Britain is, us Yanks may have more of a tolerance too borne of an effort to forget just how shit we really have it.
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I think I've just about untangled it. Is it trying to say that... if America was shit, like Britain, then they also would have a greater tolerance of alcohol, because they'd drink more to try and cope?
It doesn't make any sense that Sabian would say that, though, because he chooses to live in Britain. It doesn't make any sense that ralph would agree, either, because he lives in America and he's an alcoholic.
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quote:Originally posted by Nathan Bleak: I think I've just about untangled it.
Well done... It was typed whilst standing and pre-"run to the kids room to find out why they are fighting" mode...
quote:Originally posted by Nathan Bleak: It doesn't make any sense that Sabian would say that, though, because he chooses to live in Britain.
It's only an observation.
When I first got here, I couldn't understand why people would have pub lunches then get proper pissed after work before going home and then blinding drunk on weekends. Back home, the only time you drank was on a Friday or Saturday to unwind after a work week. If you drank at any time other than those two days, you were an alcoholic. And, if you *EVER* came to work with the scent of booze on you, you'd be sacked on the spot.
After several months in the British version of the rat race, I then understood. Waiting for the weekend to lose yourself in drink just wouldn't suffice anymore.
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I'm sure I've seen ads for an American beer recently, though, that suggest the slightest mini-male-achievement deserves a bottle of cold suds.
They run (you can find them on phone boxes, mostly)
BECAUSE HER GIFT DIDN'T BUY ITSELF. One cold bottle of YOU BET I EARNED IT.
BECAUSE YOU GO TO WORK. ALL DAY. One cold bottle of YOU BET I EARNED IT.
The tone seems American to me, but the suggestion is that you should drink just because you've fired off a couple of emails at work, or been polite on the phone, or washed up your lunch plate. Which, actually, isn't far from my own system of reward.
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(Obviously the response to this could be that this American beer is targeting a British audience, and that the US campaign would run
BECAUSE YOU GO TO WORK ALL WEEK. One cold bottle of YOU BET I EARNED IT. PLEASE ENJOY RESPONSIBLY. MORE THAN ONE COLD BOTTLE OF YOU BET I EARNED IT MAY CONSTITUTE ALCOHOLISM. CONSULT YOUR DOCTOR FOR DETAILS.)
However, I expect there are vast differences across "America", that land of various cultures that we refer to by a single name!
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If adverts are to be used as a benchmark of society, I despair.
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quote:Originally posted by wonderstarr: However, I expect there are vast differences across "America", that land of various cultures that we refer to by a single name!
Having been in 44 of the lower 48 States, I can say that for the most part, my earlier post holds true.
Obviously, there are exceptions to the rules, but what would I know? I create my opinions based on phonebooth adverts and what ITV deigns to show me on the tellybox!
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quote:Originally posted by sabian: Obviously, there are exceptions to the rules, but what would I know? I create my opinions based on phonebooth adverts and what ITV deigns to show me on the tellybox!
Whoah, Chewie. I wasn't suggesting any grand theory based on two phone booth ads. If anything it backs up your notion, because obviously those ads are trying to sell to a British market. That it seems to be an American beer isn't so relevant.
You can't base an understanding of a culture on a few ads, but I think it's a generally-safe bet that those ads do understand the kind of culture they're pitching for. They'd be wasting their money otherwise.
quote:Originally posted by sabian: Having been in 44 of the lower 48 States, I can say that for the most part, my earlier post holds true.
There's an interesting thing. Where does "lower" end? And I could look this up I'm sure very easily, but this was a topic of drinking conversation for me recently so why not keep it on that level - are there 52 states? You still hear people talk about 50 states, and Britain being the "51st State", but I thought Hawaii (Hawai'i?) was the 52nd.
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There could be 52 arguably if Washington DC and Puerto Rico were 'inducted' (can't remember proper word) but they aren't so it's 50 States.
The "lower 48 states" most Americans will tell you it's the continental US but, Alaska is still in 'North America' so that doesn't really work.
Basically, the lower 48 are all the states that touch. Alaska and Hawaii don't.
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No, I get it now. I have no idea why I thought there might be 52 states. I knew there were 50 stars on the flag so I don't know where my notion came from.
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quote: Puerto Rico is a self-governing commonwealth in association with the United States. The chief of state is the President of the United States of America. The head of government is an elected Governor. There are two legislative chambers: the House of Representatives, 51 seats, and the Senate, 27 seats.
Puerto Rico has authority over its internal affairs. United States controls: interstate trade, foreign relations and commerce, customs administration, control of air, land and sea, immigration and emigration, nationality and citizenship, currency, maritime laws, military service, military bases, army, navy and air force, declaration of war, constitutionality of laws, jurisdictions and legal procedures, treaties, radio and television--communications, agriculture, mining and minerals, highways, postal system; Social Security, and other areas generally controlled by the federal government in the United States. Puerto Rican institutions control internal affairs unless U.S. law is involved, as in matters of public health and pollution. The major differences between Puerto Rico and the 50 states are its local taxation system and exemption from Internal Revenue Code, its lack of voting representation in either house of the U.S. Congress, the ineligibility of Puerto Ricans to vote in presidential elections, and its lack of assignation of some revenues reserved for the states.
So, it works the same as a State where the State controls laws/commerce/trade interstate, but ultimately has to answer to Federal law.
But, because Puerto Rico is a 'common wealth', it isn't actually a state. This is how Hawaii was treated until it was inducted as a state in the 50s.
Washington DC is supported by Federal taxes, has its own municipal government, and has electoral college votes. Even though on a 'local' level they govern themselves with a city council and a mayor, Congress holds ultimate power over them so they don't have the same power as a state, even though for the most part they work as one.
It's confusing to those of us who are Americans...
NYC may, at some point, become its own state if other NY'ers have any say in the matter. Something stupid like 95% of all NY state income tax and sales tax (like your VAT, but not as dear at 8.5%) goes to NYC to fund it, even though they benefit from all the big business and tourism... Normal NY'ers hate NYC.
Especially NY'ers like me who no matter where I am, if I say I'm from NY it is automatically assumed I'm from NYC! THERE'S A WHOLE FUCKING STATE ATTACHED TO NYC, YOU GEOGRAPHICALLY CHALLENGED **** !
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Thanks for all this explanation! Is it the case that Texas went in and out of statehood, and back in? Again... could look it up, but you're more interesting.
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Meantime I have checked it out and it seems that Texas was first Mexican, then a republic, then part of the US, then part of the CSA during the Civil War, then readmitted into the US... something along those lines.
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quote:Originally posted by sabian: Especially NY'ers like me who no matter where I am, if I say I'm from NY it is automatically assumed I'm from NYC! THERE'S A WHOLE FUCKING STATE ATTACHED TO NYC, YOU GEOGRAPHICALLY CHALLENGED **** !
Rather than having an embolism couldn't you just say you're from The State of New York, or New York State (don't tell me that's a University or something isn't it?), or just say the part of New York you're specifically from, Albany or Orange or Columbia or whatever?
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quote:Originally posted by sabian: But, because Puerto Rico is a 'common wealth', it isn't actually a state. This is how Hawaii was treated until it was inducted as a state in the 50s.
This sounds kind of akin to the Isle of Man's relationship with the UK I guess. It has it's own government, post office, tax laws, telecoms company and is not part of the UK or the EU, but it is a protectorate of the UK and has a British governor and so on. I imagine these sort of places have political advantages for both sides anyway.
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I quite fancy going to Washington, actually. Washington sounds nice. Though this could be directly related to the fact that I am currently, approximately a decade after everyone else, discovering the joy of The West Wing. Apparently everyone cool has now moved on to The Green Wing instead. Byt the time I get round to that one there'll probably be all manner of wing-named TV shows available for the discerning viewer and I won't have watched any of them.
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Oh, and reading the Isle of Man local news on BBC teletext or whatever that interactive servicey thing is called is excellent. It's stuff like Pig stolen from a prominent piggery yesterday. Police suspect poachers! Controversy reigns over new roundabout on Bushy Head!
That sort of thing. Much better than Manchester news; person dies in attack - change numbers and type of attack daily.
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Washington DC. Though if I went to Washington DC I'd probably have a wander round the state as well. As long as it was cold. I have given up warm places. They don't suit me. Even the hot biodome at the Eden project was pushing it a bit for me.
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