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New Way Of Decay

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quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
That Sony advert, the one with him just standing there as things blow up around him, with a face so smug you'd think he'd just shit a gold brick, I actually can't watch it all the way through.

It's so massively contrived and shit as well. With as much sense one of those big fuckers you get in the pub who asks you to punch him in the stomach and you're frightened to because you know when you've given him, one maybe two tries he wants to have his turn. Except......you're pretending not to be bothered by CGI explosions. Unless it was real and Daniel Craig's face is actually caving in because he does all of his own stunts. But anyway, it's like 'fucking hell, explosions!' Stupid fucking advert!

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I'm not really quite sure what all those HDTV adverts are trying to say to me either. Am I supposed to be sitting there thinking "oh no, this looks really shitty on my TV, I better go out and buy a brand new Bravia!" or something?

I know that some say that adverts are more there to build brand loyalty and make you feel good about thingsyou've already purchased, but even that doesn't work, because the adverts not in high definition anyway.

It's just an enormous failure on every level. Which I guess is the Daniel Craig connection.

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Hah, like those old adverts that use to go 'THIS! Is! DVD! and you'd have to look at your video case in an accusing manner.

Other news: Manuel's daughter.

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Come on guys, I've linked you to a girl, in her pants whose been exposed nationally*

*I'm looking at you now, dang.

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Anyone watch 'Dead Set' last night ? I mean't to but fell asleep and missed it, now I'll never catch up..

Zombies huh ?

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Bondy badness.

Darryn - can't you iplayer Dead Set (or 4 on demand, which I think is what the C4 equivalent is called)?

If not, I have a Sky+ recording it on series link and a DVD recorder at your disposal, good sir.

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quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:

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Thanks to Waynster for posing for me in that picture.

Scarily uncanny.

Unfortunately, my very publicised loving of the bond franchise means I am very much looking forward to the film, but I can see why a lot of people can get sick of it all, and I am also slightly concerned that the next one might be a bit of a dud - I have heard conflicting reviews of it but I'll go along and make my own mind up.

As to other films I saw death proof, as it was one of a very special friend of mines favourite films. Watching a young lady very graphically cutting of a chaps winky with a pair of tin snips has me very scared indeed as this person will be moving in with me soon - I don't think I shall sleep again.....

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quote:
Originally posted by H1ppychick:
Darryn - can't you iplayer Dead Set (or 4 on demand, which I think is what the C4 equivalent is called)?

Unfortunately for us ex-pats, all these Iplayers from the BBC and their C4 equivalents don't work outside the UK - I'm still trying to find a way to trick this but with little success so far.

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quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
As to other films I saw death proof, as it was one of a very special friend of mines favourite films. Watching a young lady very graphically cutting of a chaps winky with a pair of tin snips has me very scared indeed

Hang on... when does this happen in Death Proof?
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The internet must be broken because I keep checking here for posts and there are none and my email is empty too.

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We've all put NWOD on ignore and he hasn't realised, lol!

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Thanks to the wonders of Alluc.org I caught last night Run fatboy run which was fairly amusing, and also Where The Truth Lies - a rarity of a film as Kevin Bacon plays the lead as opposed to his normal endless run of supporting roles. Interesting film, bit of a whodunnit, but definately made all the more better by having the rather gorgeous Alison Lohman in it who I am liking a lot who you may have seen in Matchstick Men or White Oleander.

I notice that In Bruges is also up there, which I have heard good things about, so I may catch that tonight if I don't head out after my meeting.

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Thanks to Orange Wednesday I only wasted £3.75 on that fucking disaster called Quantum of Solace. Probably the worst film I've seen in the cinema since the excreable V for Vendetta it had a similar approach of being an ostensibly 'smart' movie that showered tiny shards of fucking stupidity on the audience as though working on the principle that people would ignore those if the film gave the appearance of making sense. There's going to be a few spoilers from here, so if you must go and see this film, keep that in mind.

So, where to begin? There's no real plot - it's just Bond chasing the bad guys. He gets suspended by MI6 for a bit, but it doesn't make any difference to the story. The villains frame Bond by putting a dead body in his car. MI6 don't question this, as though they're all saying "Framed? Don't be ridiculous! Who ever heard of such a thing? Who would frame and MI6 agent?". But like, I say, it doesn't make any difference. He carries on wandering the world and getting into fights exactly the same as before.

The fights. Given there's no real character and no real plot, the action is surely the main draw here. Except that it's staggeringly inept in execution. The film opens in the middle of a car chase, which must have seemed like a great idea on paper. However, without any kind of clue as to who's chasing Bond - as in what car they're driving or what the drivers look like - it's impossible to make sense of the chase. Cars catapault into the air. Was that the villain? Is the threat gone now? Did Bond just kill an innocent? Indeed, 'What just happened?' is kind of the theme of the action sequence as they're frequently resolved by Bond performing some nebulous yet decisive action that results in the death of his opponent. He throws a grappling hook at a boat and it flips over. He does... something in an aeroplane that makes another pilot crash. He does a thing that makes a man fall off a scaffold, but I don't know what it was. On and on it goes in total incoherence.

Terrible performances too, although probably down to the script, because even Judi Dench is totally unconvincing. At one point in a briefing she seems unaware that a passport is a CGI image on a table top screen - a la Minority Report - and keeps seeming to try and pick it up. Daniel Craig comes off as extremely shy about the quips, as though he knows how lame they are and can't quite bring himself to say them. Mr White comes off as a sort of angry market stall owner in his one scene, scoffing at MI6 that "We're always worried you're looking over our shoulder, but you know nothing about us!" Then he mentions that he has "people everywhere". So surely he should have known that MI6 is ignorant of his organisation?

Anyway. One more thing, and then you can go. My favourite piece of stupid in this film is the hotel in the desert, that stands in for the usual underground base or villain's lair or what have you that always end these things. It's a hotel. In the desert. The power blinks out. "Oh - that'll be the fuel cells", exposits one character. OK. So Jeff Architect built this hotel in the middle of the desert. "How are we going to power this hotel, Jeff, that you've built in the desert, Jeff, with the attendant climate that the desert has, Jeff, what energy source should we harness?"

"Jeez, I dunno. How about highly volatile hydrogen fuel cells?"

"Well, Jeff, I was wondering about solar power as a safe and abundant source of energy. After all, we're in the desert. It's one thing we've got plenty of."

"Power from the sun? Are you mad? Are you some kind of mad middle ages superstitious quack? We're going with hydrogen fuel cells".

Wouldn't you know it. Part of the building catches fire and this sets off a chain reaction as each part of the hotel sets off an explosion in another part and blah. I've worked for engineering consultants. I want to know how in the name of fuck this building passed safety regulations.

"Jeff, I can't help noticing - Jeff, pay attention - I can't help noticing that not only have you failed to install the mandatory number of fire doors to prevent any blaze from travelling the length of the building in a matter of minutes, not only have you not done that, but I notice that you've placed hydrogen fuel cells every ten metres or so meaning that any instance of fire any where in the will result in the entire building becoming an inescapable exploding deathtrap that will kill all your guests within a matter of minutes."

"... Ok ... well.... What if I put a sprinkler system in?"

In the desert Jeff? A sprinkler system in the desert where's the water going to come from Jeff when the whole fucking film, Jeff is all about the villains stealing water? How's that going to work? It doesn't Jeff! It doesn't work! It's just about enough to get Daniel Craig photogenically wet but it has no effect on dampening the giant fucking hydrogen bomb yu built in the middle of nowhere!

Oh yes. That's right. The villainous organisation turns out to be a utilities company that wants to charge more on the water rates. Like Thames Water but less implacably evil.

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-Gentle, appreciative round of applause-

Balls. I haven't seen it yet.

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bugger, i wanted to see that too..

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I'll still go and check it out for myself this afternoon, but before your report I had some misgivings from others reviews. Still it is a Bond film, and I love them, so whilst I might not enjoy this one as I did Casino Royale, I just feel obligated to just make my own mind up.

Anyway, I thought V for Vendetta was a cracking film [Wink]

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bugger, i wanted to see that too..

Well, you know. Don't avoid it on my account. I'm sure some people will enjoy it. People who don't mind piping hot shit being fired into their face for 104 minutes.

Oh yeah - it's only 1hr 45min long, but I have to say it was the longest hour and three quarters of my life. It's like the last 100 minutes of the working day on the Friday before a bank holiday.

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I was planningto scut out early today and nip to the flicks, but all hell broke loose here and now im stuck at my fucking desk like a **** ..

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To his credit Daniel does do a lovely ducking-away-from-flying glass face in the initial car chase. Except that it finally becomes clear (after Bond has shaken off the pursuit) that the car-chasers were henchmen of Mr White, who Bond has stashed in his car boot. Presumably the henchmen knew that Mr White was stashed in the car boot, hence the chase. To be honest if I was Mr White and I was paying henchmen to protect me I'd have some sharp words to say about them firing automatic weapons at the boot of the car where I was stashed, not to mention trying to run it off the road. P45s all round, surely.

Though my favourite bit in this sequence was the two or three shots of the aggressively styled Aston Martin foot-pedals. Now, I admit it's a while since I've driven a motor vehicle, but I do seem to remember there being a requirement that in order to make it go, one put one's foot on a pedal. In none of the shots of said stylish Aston Martin pedals was James Bond's foot in evidence anywhere near the pedals, leading one to suppose that his car goes fast on steely blue-eyed willpower alone.

Some key duff moments.

1. Sending a twig-thin redhead who seems to be about twelve years old with a strong Roedean accent to 'arrest' Bond was really never going to work.

2. Daniel Craig is doubtless very charming, but as a come-to-bed line 'I can't find the stationery, could you help me look?' lacks a certain something. Actually it pretty much lacks a certain everything.

3. Redheaded girl coated in - supposedly - oil, sprawled dead on the hotel bed. Leaving aside for the moment the fact that she appeared to be coated in bitumen rather than oil, the 'Oooh, we've all seen Goldfinger haven't we, let's have a copy of the shot' moment was just awful. Not to mention the practicality of getting a dead, slippery, naked, oil-covered girl's corpse up the stairs and into the bedroom of a large, posh hotel without someone clearing their throat politely and asking you what the hell you're doing.

4. Bond picking up a piece of rock from a big pile of broken stone and musing 'They used dynamite.' Well, we didn't think they used grapefruit spoons.

It's just full of shit ideas and inconsistencies... the puny villain who suddenly fights as well as the top man in MI6 (who ten minutes previously has downed three other MI6 agents)... the attempt of Bond and Camille to hold a conversation in the middle of a speedboat chase, leaving you to hope they weren't expositing any key plot points because you didn't have a hope in hell of hearing them... the Reservoir-Dogs-like aliases (Mr White, Mr Green) that were never taken further or explained... the idea that you can just casually reshape the underground geography of a huge area of desert to make it function as water holding tanks.

Dreadful in every respect.

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As much as I love Bond movies, aren't they all a little like the boat scene you described, Octavia?

What was wrong with V for Vendetta?

Ps...not just the boat scene, but the way both you and thorn describe the movie, they're all a little cheesey. But still entertaining.

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The difference here is that it's not so much cheesey, as technically inept. There's no sense of the geography of the action, so it's kind of unengaging. Also, because it's got this tone of 'serious' movie hanging over it, the stuff like the exploding hotel comes off as stupid rather than playful.
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As for V for Vendetta...
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About as hot of the press as you will ever get a review from me - I've come straight from the cinema to the pub to look like a cock and type this, but I have to get it all down while it is still fresh.

Theren is ultimately a lot wrong with this movie, and a lot right with it - having been a massive fan of the franchise for more than 30 years, sometimes you doubt your impartiality, and expect any reader rightly to do so, so in this respect I am going to do my best to find fault first - this will contains spoilers so please look away if you are yet to see the film.

Firstly, the action sequences - in the first third of the movie there were far too many of them, and this horrible style of 4 second shots made it impossible at times to work out what the hell was going on (the grappling hook and the dinghy - just how did he do that?) - it sure works well in the Bourne films, but Bond uses a bit more artistic license and with so much going on it was very difficult to keep up with it. With Bond being reinvented with a new sense of reality in the previous outing I was sad to see the whole implauusible rope routine - I'd just 2 years previous been introduced to the real Bond, and now it seems they are slipping back to the old ways a little.

The guy who played Greene I found cringeworthy - couldn't act his way out of a paper bag - the scene with the main Bond girl at the harbour was plain awful, and the dialogue like it had been written on the back of a fag packet. She (her name I have forgotten did improve a little, but not enough to redeem herself.)

Two characters from the previous outing did not get the exposure they deserved - Mr White we hardly got to see, and as someone who was a great part of the integral plot of the previous one I would have thought deserved more exposure to develop his characrter. Also Mathis, who I thought was a great asset to Bond - why the hell was he assasinated? He could have been like another Leitner, an asset outside the agency, yet in a crass and stupid way he was illiminated far too early.

The actual plot seemed to distanced from where we were left of at the end of the last story and just deviated too much from that. The story on the whole was pretty thin and left a lot to be desired - I really fely that they could have built so much from the last film but instead it seems they just thought "Stuff it - they loved the last one - they will go and see any old tosh" - instead of having a chance to build the characters up to the supposed finale, they have just seemed to have skipped though a lot of it all, relied to much on luck and circumstance as well as bad scripting and a weak plot, and are (and I hope) going to fix it all in the next film - however they have a lot of work to do to reconvince me

So what was good about the film? Well Craig did play the character as well as he could given the dialogue, and also Dench was once again fine and a treasure to the role - it had some fine moments - the aforementioned scene at the opera was rather good, and some other parts were entertaining. But did I enjoy the film? Well, if truth be told, yes, but at the same time being dissapointed. Its a Bond film and I love the franchise, and especially in the recent reinvention of the character, and I think Craig really is the most superior actor to adopt the role, but there was a lot to be said in the negative about this. I will need to see it again to judge it properly, but first viewing and there are too many questions to be asked to the writers - had this film been written 15 years ago with Brosnan at the reigns it would have been a classic, but in this day and age it just doesn't quite cut it. 6/10.

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Oh and I apologise for any typos but have you tried writing in the dark on a laptop less than the size of a fish finger box - it ain't fun

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quote:
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Oh yeah - it's only 1hr 45min long, but I have to say it was the longest hour and three quarters of my life. It's like the last 100 minutes of the working day on the Friday before a bank holiday.

I totally agree with this, and with your review. It didn't help that I was painfully hungover, and had to sit in the middle of a big group, closing my eyes when it got a bit too energetic and dizzying, eating popcorn to try and stave off the nausea, confused about what was going on and not really caring anyway, and basically wishing I hadn't been talked into leaving the house. A very miserable experience, all in all.
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Has anyone read the Stephenie Meyer's series? The first book is called Twilight. It's young adult, but quite good. The movie is coming out here sometime soon and I'm picking up the second book today. Very excited.
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Hi Amy

I've read them all plus the standalone novel The Host.

I resisted buying them at first, thinking a bit sneeringly that their enormous popularity must be a bit Dan Brown-y. I eventually bought the first one, got hooked right in and ordered the rest of the series from Amazon the same day as I started reading the first one, then read through all of them within the space of about a fortnight.

They're not great literature but they're damn addictive.

I saw a poster for the movie when at the cinema to watch Quantum of Solace, but I've not seen trailers or anything else yet. It felt like a nice forthcoming treat, realising that the movie had been made and was relatively imminent.

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they are definitely addicvtive! I just bought new moon, started reading it last night and I'm already over 100 pages into it.

Did you know there's another book called midnight sun, but it's not finished. Apparently, it's the first book from Edward's viewpoint. I know you can read the first 6 or 7 chapters on Stephenie Meyer's website.

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I've seen previews for the Twilight movie, and know the books are hugely popular, but they just don't do it for me. I'm otherwise a huge Vampire fan and am hooked on HBO's "True Blood." There are only two more episodes left so I think I'll have to get those books.
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I thought there were 3 episodes left? I LOVE True blood. I'd let bill bite me any day! [Smile]
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I hope you are right, three is always much better than two.
Bill doesn't do it for me...too pasty and haggard looking, but I guess that's a side-effect of being a Vampire. I prefer the two live pieces of man-flesh on the show.

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I also like the guy who plays the vampire Erik. Can we say hot? Sam merlotte is pretty tasty too. Even if he does bark. Like a dog.

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I've never seen that, but just looked it up and it has Alexander Skarsgard as a vampire so it's definately at the top of my must-see list now!
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