quote:Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts: probably not. I never really cared about it, and had no desire to increase my skills. I couldn't get into the competitive spirit.
I bet I'm less competetive than you...
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I was hugely competitive when I was younger but I grew out of it when I realised what a cnut it made me. I'm sure some people can pull it off - you know, being highly competitive but not being unbearable with it. But I couldn’t. These days, if I feel my competitive instincts rising I tend to just give up and let the other person win, to avoid confrontation. I'm a nicer person for it, I reckon.
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I often don't care if I win or lose, but sometimes a competitive cnut rises within. I had denied the existence of such a beast, but upon closer inspection it turns out that I was either a) shit at whatever it was I was trying or b) ashamed to admit to my inner cnut or c) so afraid to lose, I'd sabotage my lame-ass attempts so I could always convince myself 'I could have won if I hadn't deliberately dropped an anvil on my foot / taken a tab of lsd / gouged out my eyes with spoons before the big netball goal-off.
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Yeah I think it's simply the case that some people are so upset by the idea of losing that they pretend not to care so they don't have to put any effort into it. It's like you could say that you should never strive to achieve your potential because you might find that your potential isn't anywhere near as great as you thought it would be. If you never try, you can just assume that you'd be great at anything to which your turned your hand.
You can also 'win' against people who are unashamedly competative, and cause them a lot of frustration with your apparent lack of botherment for the fact you've been beaten.
It's a really underhanded tactic but I would say that people who claim not to be competative, are actually among the most competative people in the world.
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I find my competitiveness varies. I'm not afraid of losing/being shit when it comes to something I'm new to or whatever but if it's something I feel I should be good at, I get pretty anxious. I was terrified of playing chess against a friend of mine, because I thought he would kick my arse, and the first match we had was terrible. I just couldn't concentrate. Once I got that kicking out the way, I was quite happy to sit down and play again and actually won. It's like, I don't mind a competitive situation if I'm expected/ expecting to lose. But if I'm supposed to win, I kind of fall apart.
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I do 'holding my breath' contests in my head. That's about as competetive as I get. I tried to pretend that I was competetive when I was captain of a football team - but it really didn' work...
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quote:Originally posted by jonesy999: Competing against machines, inanimate objects and myself - they're all OK.
What if it was an inanimate Jonesy machine? Just an expressionless robotic clone of yourself that made basic movements and stared dead ahead the whole time? Do you reckon you could sit across from that in a game of chess and feel comfortable?
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I think I'd probably attack it before the end of the game. Maybe cry a little as I bit out its eyes and crushed their green glass into a powder on my lacerated tongue.
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All machines are inanimate objects, right? I haven't discovered that AI kid in the shed or anything, I was just being a bit thick.
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I'd like to see that - especially if the whole time you were beating it, it kept repeating "Who do you really hate? It's not me." in a digitised version of your voice.
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Thorn, you've hit the nub on the gist. In sporting matters, where I am shit, I don't care if I lose, but playing Boggle, for example, I would have to win, at least the majority of the time.
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I think a clone/robotclone/whatever of yourself would just be awful to have around. If it was a prefect facsimile of the original then it would be too much to bear. It's like all those things about yourself that you deny and that your mind is forced to modify before they're processed properly - because if your mind allowed you to know the truth, to really see yourself, you'd be flying through the air on your way to the pavement beneath the multi-story car park. If those things were acted out in front of you by an exact replica...if you could see yourself in action. Brrr. I'd definitely destroy the machine before it destroyed me.
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But then if the machine was a perfect reproduction it would feel exactly the same way about me as I did about it. It would take one look into my eyes and think "Fuck me. I can't watch this. This thing, it's going to destroy me. It's going to go outside; it's going to go into the world and it's going to be me. And I'm going have to witness me, out there in the world, in action. I must destroy this machine before it destroys me."
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quote:Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts: what they should do is zoom in on the people who are chatting when they're not supposed to be.
In the Murphy Vs Parrott match that I've been watching this afternoon, a woman's mobile phone just went off. She promptly answered it in a loud voice, saying "HELLO?" Everybody laughed, including the players and referee. Murphy even commented, "Sounds just like my Mum!" which drew further laughs from the audience.
A moment of sheer comical brilliance, I'm sure you'll agree.
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