quote:Originally posted by dang65: There is one overriding argument against SMA, and that's the advert they're running on TV at the moment.
It is illegal to have FORUMLA adverts on telly, but they get around it by advertising their "follow-on milk" which is for 6-12 month olds... Cow&Gate do the same with their "follow-on milk" but both adverts whilst saying it's for older children, are filled with babies and well slept happy parents.
So, what they are doing isn't illegal, just the television equiv of pumping fresh bread smell through Sainsburys' air vents. It doesn't matter that it's a Local and you KNOW the bread that's on the shelves is 3 weeks old, the smell is enough for you to buy a few dozen Krispy Kreme. Same with the advert. You KNOW it's a "follow-on milk", but mentally you don't give a shit if it is strychnine if it means you'd be able to sleep for more than 20 mins at a go.
ETA They spend LOADS for online advertising though. mumsnet ran a campaign for them last year and was rumoured to cost SMA £40k for a 3 week run.
Best I can do is £1000 from online shops... fucking mumsnet
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quote:Originally posted by sabian: I didn't say any of this though ***as the site I run is primarily attachment parents*** and I'd be strung up if I didn't tell you that breastfeeding, natural birth, cloth nappies (surprisingly easy to use and a hell of a lot cheaper than disposables!), co-sleeping, baby wearing, and baby-led development WAS the only way to be.
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What the heck is follow-on milk? Over here the consensus is avoid all milk until 1 year (and I don't like to give loads of it to my daughter anyway, even though she's almost three).
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quote:Originally posted by rooster: What the heck is follow-on milk? Over here the consensus is avoid all milk until 1 year (and I don't like to give loads of it to my daughter anyway, even though she's almost three).
It's the 6-12 months second stage of powdered formula. As Sabian says, only really advertised so heavily because the companies making it aren't allowed to advertise the 0-6 month first stage (they aren't allowed to here either).
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Only because breast feeding from Jordan would be like sucking from a caulking gun!
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quote:Originally posted by London: Don't you just love Jordan though?
Jordan maybe, but those journalist that go on about, "Actually, that makes me sound like a fanatic, like the Maenads from the NCT, which I’m not."... are tiresome. [* looks up Maenad * Uh-huh, ok, goddit.]
Those journalsts are the same sort of people who go on about "those low energy lightbulb fascists" or "that 'Super Size Me' idiot".
Obviously, breastfeeding is a personal choice, as is using low energy lightbulbs (at the moment) or eating junk, but the message is "breastfeeding is natural and it's good for the child and the mother".
Formula milk is a commercial money machine and SMA or Nestle pour millions into shoving the idea down people's throats (from birth, literally), but when someone tries to promote free, healthy, natural breastmilk they get called Maenads by some loon in the paper!
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Only when it comes to raising my kids Herbs...
Though, that said, I had a veggie moussaka the other day from the vegan place in Portobello and I now prefer a falafel over a Big Mac so who knows...
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quote:Originally posted by London: I think it sounds kind of extreme and wierd and interesting.
It shouldn't really be considered extreme or wierd, though. I mean it's actually nature's intended purpose for lovely lady lumps, after all.
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From what I've seen personally and 'experienced' through others' story... Breastfeeding is something that is super-duper magical if it happens easily.
The mothers (and/or babies) who don't get it quite right so it involves a lot of faffing about to get going, those are the ones where the stress and disappointment is profound.
I still remember my little one's eyes when she would start to feed. Her eyes would roll to the back of her head and she'd just go completely limp. At one point I had to make sure that it was indeed breastmilk coming out and not opium.
Good luck London. There are LOADS of places to get help from places like La Leche and Lactivist* to get help from.
* Cool shop too!
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quote:Originally posted by sabian: I still remember my little one's eyes when she would start to feed. Her eyes would roll to the back of her head and she'd just go completely limp.
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should i ever reproduce i fully intend to try breastfeeding. i have a feeling i will be the crunchiest of co- sleeping, washable nappy- changing, baby- massaging, makaton- learning mummy you can possibly get. and yet... the expression 'mummy milk' make sme want to punch a baby in the face.
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Yeah, 'mummy milk' is totes woman-as-cattle ASSTR porn fodder, no?
And Misc, just because something's natural doesn't make it not extreme. I mean a giant baby's head and shoulders coming out of yr vadge and ripping a big hole between vadge and bum, that's natural, but that's as extreme as it gets without actually dying, imho.
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So much baby-centred stuff is gag-inducing, though natch should I manage to spawn a live baby from my wizened carcass, it will all be simply magical.
eg: baby on board stickers. Infant being referred to as 'baby' rather than 'the' or 'your baby' baby einsten paraphenalia. Leave the poor kid alone.
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do you think it would be quite fun, if your partner pissed you off, to squeeze milk all over their face while they were sleeping and take photos? i do.
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quote:Originally posted by herbs: Infant being referred to as 'baby' rather than 'the' or 'your baby'
On the ITV News bulletin last night they kept referring to that plane that crashed as "she".
Despite being grieviously stricken, she managed to limp the last few miles to home, bringing all her passengers in to a safe stop before collapsing to the ground.
It's a lump of fucking metal you idiots! And "she" nearly killed hundreds of people by throwing a fucking wobbly in the middle of the air. Maybe it was "her" time of the month or something.
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Speaking as someone who is really far from home and getting a BA flight on Monday Im just really pumped about the whole stopping-working-and-falling-out-of-the-sky thing. Yep. It is just great.
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quote:Originally posted by ralph: What site might this be?
Don't know if you've seen it but incase not and you think I'm ignoring you, look at your sms email.
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