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Teflon
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My body annoys me. I mean really annoys me.

Those of you that know me will know that since a youngster, I have played Hockey obsessively. In my youth I played at quite a high level (still reasonable even now as I hurtle towards 30) and then my body rebelled against me.

I am a chubster. I can totally relate to all of the things that Ringo said But that said I consider myself to be reasonably fit!

I regularly excercise (Hockey twice a week during the season and Tae-Kwon-Do twice a week) and although I do struggle with overheating this time of year I do not have the hands on knees wanting to vomit running out of steam type thing, I am flexible (spilts are no prob) and quite light on my feet But I am still a bit of a bloater.

Why??
Why is this.

I do not snack excessively (although I do love Pizza!!!) and I never lose weight. may I just say Grrrr to my evil body. it is a bastard.

Anyone have any insights??

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Darryn.R
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quote:
Originally posted by kovacs:
The answer would be "Not", natch, but I'd do it if everyone else did. And pictures of you now, Darryn -- not in your prime-meat phase.

Will do later.. It's a soory sight to see though..
Since that pic was taken, I've broken a hip and a collarbone and had a year off doing 'owt with the big C.

AND I'm 36 now too, if memory serves correctly Ko you're still in your 20's right ? So in order to be fair 'fitness' levels and the like we need to use your age as the time frame to judge by otherwise we throw the curve all out of whack..

I wonder if I can figure out my camaras timer..

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kovacs

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quote:
Originally posted by Darryn.R:
Will do later.. It's a soory sight to see though..
Since that pic was taken, I've broken a hip and a collarbone and had a year off doing 'owt with the big C.

Fucking lame excuses or what.

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AND I'm 36 now too, if memory serves correctly Ko you're still in your 20's right ?

In your wet dreams! I'm 33 in two weeks.

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I wonder if I can figure out my camaras timer..

Feeling like a narcissistic homo, I tried this on the timer just now -- and I looked like a skinny runt. Better than a fat one, I suppose, but my torso looks like a really flat-chested girl.

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London

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All boys and men should take off their clothes and get in a line. Vogon will be along shortly with a camera and some calipers. I'll be taking notes. Alright?
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Darryn.R
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quote:
Originally posted by kovacs:
Feeling like a narcissistic homo, I tried this on the timer just now -- and I looked like a skinny runt. Better than a fat one, I suppose, but my torso looks like a really flat-chested girl.

Lame excuse... You cheeky bugger

33 Really, well, I honestly though you were still in your 20's..

I'm still looking for my cameras instructions..

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Thorn Davis

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quote:
Originally posted by London:
Losing yourself in music and movement - the sentences in your head reduced from litanies of self-hate and confusion and aspiration and lust into numbers, counting reps to the beat - right now it's the only freedom I know.


See, I can't relate to this at all. I've never been able to find any activity that focuses my attention in this way. I remember my dad saying this about sailing, about how it makes you forget everything else and concentrate on the task in hand, but I couldn't shut off any of the nagging problems I had at the time. Same was true of windsurfing, judo, gym, cycling, squash, tennis, badminton, shooting, sex, reading, and indeed anything that I might indulge in that carries with it the promise of briefly silencing the continuous voice of anxiety chattering away at the back of my head.


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kovacs

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quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
forget everything else and concentrate on the task in hand

wat about wanking? pmsl

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Vogon Poetess

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It's only alcohol that silences that voice, Thorn.

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Thorn Davis

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Actually, that's true, VP. Christ that's depressing.
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Ringo

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Driving is the only thing that makes me concentrate intensely. I was driving last night with my mate in the car and it took me five miles to realise he was trying to tell me something..
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London

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Yes, drugs. Try E. It changes stuff.

Can I get arrested for saying that.


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Thorn Davis

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quote:
Originally posted by London:
Yes, drugs. Try E. It changes stuff.


Yes, it changes me into a shivering bawling, miserable morose wreck for about three days.


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London

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Pffft. Comedowns are for pussies. It's like PMT, all in your head love!
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Bob
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no. but i heartily agree with you.
i hit 13 stone as a 5'7" midget 24 year old. due to excessive drinking. then i got ditched and discovered druqs. speed and pills.
my weight rocketed to below 11 stone. Hitting my all time low of just over 10.
I now weigh about 11 (68-72 kg depending on how wet i am).
so my personal advice? take drugs and dance. the girls like you more as well....

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herbs

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My gym attendance ebbs and flows, generally with a slight time lag after weight gain, or loss. I can cope with being a fat bastard for a few weeks, try eating less, then give in and go to the gym, see a slight lessening in the wobble factor, and stop going.

However, with increasing age and decreasing metabolism, I find that I have to diet AND exercise just to maintain an even vaguely acceptable weight and thighs that will go into trousers not from Evans.

But London - I heart step classes too! That hypnotic beat, the concentration required that takes my mind off the fact that I'm about to have an embollism... I'm going to squeeze in a quick class at lunchtime! Bonza. If left to my own devices in the gym I stop, bored, as soon as I break sweat.


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Dr. Benway

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I'm unfit, as I do no exercise. I'nm cyling around a pensinsula in Denmark in a week or so, which will bring this home. 30k on the first day, and I haven't been on bike for about ten years. Still - you've got to tear muscles to build them up.

I'm going to take up a form of Kung Fu next week though, called Wing Chun. Apparantly, it's "characterised by its simultaneous attack and defences, incorporating punches, palms, chops, elbows and low to mid-section kicks". I reckon that I could handle a bit of fighting after work on a wednesday, and at £500 a year for 50 hours, I reckon that this is good value for money. It'll get me motivating myself to be fit and healthy for some reason other than vanity or premature death, which have never motivated me before.

It might sort my head out as well. Boost confidence, relieve stress etc. I'm phoning the guy up tonight, and going for my frist session on Wednesday. I'm really hoping that I like it, and get into it, but obviously if I turn up and start filling the role of human punchbag, I'll probably give it a miss. I chose this one because it's quite aggressive, see. It's all about streetfighting.

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The Dixie Flatline
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In many other societies being thin is a sign of low status since it would be taken to mean that you can't afford to eat very much.

With the range of traditional foods available in say, India, it would take some effort and considerable relative expenditure to become fat.

Darker skin tones and developed muscles are often a signifier that you are a peasant or field worker, not the kind of image you want in an Asian society.

Of course in Europe for hundreds of years the fashion among high status people was to use as much white face powder as possible for maximum paleness.

In modern Western societies, most processed foods are full of fat, in fact the cheaper they are the more fats are used to substitute for expensive 'real' ingredients.

The poor are more likely statistically to be pale because either they can't afford foreign holidays or they spend long hours in factories or simply sitting at home. Obesity among the poor would be statistically more common due to cheap processed food, inactivity, and lack of access to expensive gyms and trainers.

Being thin, muscular and tanned became a new marker of social status since those attributes were more economically difficult to achieve. (although tans have become devalued by cheap tanning salons).


If we lived in different times or societies we would probably have totally different perceptions of good and bad body images.


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mart
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I think we knew all that and took it for granted, Dixie.

Which isn't to say that it isn't a fair point, just that your deadpan delivery of it leaves this reader rather cold and unaffected by it.

If that makes sense.


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herbs

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Never was a signature so apt.
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kovacs

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quote:
Originally posted by The Dixie Flatline:
If we lived in different times or societies we would probably have totally different perceptions of good and bad body images.


You're right, but we don't.

I'm still waiting for Harlequin's contribution to this topic:

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Fitness is the result of a healthy diet and exercise! It is easy to achieve with the right balance of diet and exercise.


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kovacs

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THORN
suffocating bouts of morose depression ... slow sinking feeling of my dreams and aspirations, withering, growing mould and turning into a flaking, choking dust has been an undercurrent for as far back as I can remember ... the continuous voice of anxiety chattering away at the back of my head.

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VOGON
Half hearted and vague ... youthful bloom is fading and sagging ... shit life ... It's only alcohol that silences that voice, Thorn.

Guys -- when are you two going to get together?

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Octavia
I hate Valentine's Day.
Stupid commercialised crap
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Perhaps they have done this to each other...

Edit for thread-answering.
I'm not as fit as I'd like to be, but I'm after a specific sort of fitness that will help me stride up Cairn Gorm in about three weeks' time without so much as breathing hard. Unfortunately the only thing that gets you hill-fit is climbing other hills, and what with living in Oxfordshire and working in London, there aren't a whole hell of a lot of them around.

Other than that I'm reasonably happy with my bod. I've got a photo somewhere, but as I'm not sweet I won't be posting or mailing it. Powerwalking 8k to work three times a week and navvying in the garden makes a difference.

[ 10 July 2003: Message edited by: Octavia ]


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London

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Herbs, why don't you come to the 11am Step class on Saturdays at the Clissold Centre with me?
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Dr. Benway

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Alternatively, you could join me at my one o'clock drinking session at the Clissold Arms, on Sundays. They do a lovely roast.

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Bob
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surely it would be best to do class the eat?
everyones a winner

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Thorn Davis

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quote:
Originally posted by London:
Herbs, why don't you come to the 11am Step class on Saturdays at the Clissold Centre with me?

Is this a girl thing? I could never envisage preferring to work out in the company of someone I know. I think I'd feel totally self conscious. I certainly wouldn't dream of saying something like "Kovacs, fancy joining me for a boxercise class next week?" God, even the thought of posting something like that makes me feel totally awkward and unwell.


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The Dixie Flatline
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quote:
Originally posted by herbs:
Never was a signature so apt.

i feel that in a sense i'm starting to slip into this 'thinking man's Harlequin' role, to the point that my writing style is starting to resemble his more and more.

Perhaps it's time to kill off the Flatline and start somebody new.


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London

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quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
Is this a girl thing? I could never envisage preferring to work out in the company of someone I know. I think I'd feel totally self conscious. I certainly wouldn't dream of saying something like "Kovacs, fancy joining me for a boxercise class next week?" God, even the thought of posting something like that makes me feel totally awkward and unwell.

I don't see what the problem is. Oh, apart from the nekkid showers afterwards. I hadn't thought that bit through. O well, is not as though Herbs is a lecherous man about to grab my just worked-out booty, is she. I mean, you'd go to a club or gig and dance and get sweaty with people you know, right? What's the difference?


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kovacs

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At an exercise class there would be more a sense of obscure competition and the potential of "failing" in my opinion -- if I were to go with Thorn and knew he was breezing through it while I wanted to die, I'd feel really humiliated.

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Bob
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ahh but would you go sparring/kickboxing/martial arting with another bloke?
I used to. Its good to have a mate there to help out and get you thru all the stretching and beating each other up. And its easier taking advice from someone you know. ie tuck your chin in, cover up your ribs. that kind of manly stuff.

this boxing class you went to was it a proper boxing session? or was it "boxercise"?
is it an ongoing training thing to go in the ring and start sparring?

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herbs

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11 o'clock class?? B-b-but that would mean getting up on a Saturday morning. Other than that, it sounds rather appealing. Does it have complicated moves n grooves? I like that.

I know what you mean, boys, about feeling slightly awkward in company. I quite like sinking into myself and being just, like, 'centred', but I would imagine I could manage this with AMP within view. Do they have communal showers? Oooh... hot lezbo action.


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Thorn Davis

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quote:
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ahh but would you go sparring/kickboxing/martial arting with another bloke?
I used to. Its good to have a mate there to help out and get you thru all the stretching and beating each other up. And its easier taking advice from someone you know. ie tuck your chin in, cover up your ribs. that kind of manly stuff.

No, that thought also troubles me. I dunno. It's something about all this kind of stuff, that i would prefer it if people in my real life didn't know it was happening.


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London

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Yeah, communal showers, which is a bit unsophis in my opinion, especially considering how many millions they spent on the centre itself. The moves are complicated enough - not as good as Skinny Mike, but better than basic step, turns and repeaters. The class that was on last night looked fairly complicated, but the bitch wouldn't let me in because I was five minutes late. Cow. I'll chekkit next week.
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H1ppychick
We all prisoners, chickee-baby.
We all locked in.
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quote:
Originally posted by Octavia:
...living in Oxfordshire and working in London...Powerwalking 8k to work three times a week...[ 10 July 2003: Message edited by: Octavia ]

d00d, what do you wear, seven league boots?


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Octavia
I hate Valentine's Day.
Stupid commercialised crap
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quote:
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d00d, what do you wear, seven league boots?
I march from Paddington via Bayswater, through Hyde Park, Green Park, St James's Park, down to the Embankment, along it to Blackfriars and then up to Holborn.

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