quote:Originally posted by I am not...: 35 is Middle aged though in't it?
No...no...it's not!!! It's kind of teetering on the brink of being middle aged and clutching at the phrase "in your thirties" for at least another half decade.
Is that a Dannimac I spy in my wardrobe? God help me.
Also - lol, you made me remember something that Lowlevel once posted. He worked out my age and posted something like;
[flirt]you don't look middle aged [/flirt]
The flirt brackets were what made me lol.
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quote:Originally posted by New Way Of Decay: I'll trade you the 'city centre' one for a 'I hung the shitty pants on the door handle' story.
Now I'm imagining a Panini Sticker Book of unfortunate toilet-related accidents.
Kids in playground trying to complete their book:
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quote:Originally posted by saltrock: Do wee stories count too?
I hope so. I once made my sister wee out of her bedroom window.
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quote:Originally posted by Louche: Incidentally, it's vastly more fun when getting a roasting from Bamba to pretend to retreat into hurt silence and cackle a lot as you imagine him tying himself in knots of guilty shame all afternoon.
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This thread didn't take long to go from familiar-but-nevertheless-interesting to utterly worthless, did it?
The Truth is Fish again, of course... and perhaps there was some truth in his comment, although I admit I couldn't quite tell if he meant Uber Trick or London. Or both!
It's a funny thing but State of the Boards threads, though now so ridiculously frequent that they'll soon, statistically, dominate actual/other board comment, in a sort of mega-meta-forum, are kind of fun in their bitterness and melancholy. It's also interesting that we have so many here, whereas The Cuban Lounge, which is even more dead and insular -- such a dull place I haven't even bothered registering there -- never seems to have these "what went wrong" hand-wringing sessions, and happily continues, content in its lot, hosting chats between Chocolatebuns and Space Cowboy.
quote:Originally posted by Bamba: Note to self: Ensure Louche ends up 'enjoying' next Saturday night in the company of toothless, tracksuit wearing knuckle-draggers while everyone else meets up in a normal pub.[/i]
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I'm assuming that the first part of the the Truth's convoluted sentence refers to me, and the second to Uber Trick.
quote:Originally posted by The Truth: ...trying to emulate the style of their sister and failing to do it well at all.
I don't think it's fair to say UberTrick tries to emulate me - she's always been pretty aware of being considered 'London's sister' before anything else, and I think she tries to get away from that. She's much chattier than I ever was (and nicer), and interacts online with a wider range of people than I ever did, while, in the main, avoiding fights. If there's any resemblance between our posting styles that would presumably be as a result of similar upbringings, current social groups and a shared vocabulary rather than anybody trying to emulate anybody else.
quote:Originally posted by The Truth: I think the style that is obviously missing from the boards is that of a middle aged woman pretending that they're still 21...
As for the first part of the sentence, it seems to be aping something Kovacs said about a year ago, when I made a reference to taking drugs and going to see a band - so top marks for originality there. 'The Truth' says the board misses the character of a middle-aged woman pretending to be 21. I'm sorry that I can no longer supply that for everybody. These days I'm more concerned with my imending flat purchase, mini-cash ISA, and stakeholder pension than where the next vial of ketamine or slim-hipped 23-year-old boy is coming from. I understand that the board has its needs - and if that need is for a middle-aged woman pretending to be 21, then so be it - but, after nearly four years' service, I can no longer accommodate this need as I once did. I apologise. But things have changed.
And if The Truth is really Fish? That's just fucking weak.
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I'd frankly rather dispense with the state of the boards whimpering and get on with just, well, posting about other stuff.
That said, I can appreciate taking a step back for retrospection on occasion. In this case, I observe:
The notion of prenovemberist is dead. Not that it really ever applied to me, of course, as I happened upon Seethru of my own path, wholly unrelated to Attachments.
News That's Surprising To No-one™: The number of users would drop by half if we were to eliminate other incarnations of kovacs and fish.
Everyone in the 'in crowd' has had sex with at least one other forumite. At this stage, I'm not sure whether that means I'm in or out.
A 'serious' discussion about the state of the forum degenerated quickly to a discussion of people weeing out of windows. This again comes as a surprise to no-one.
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quote:Originally posted by The Truth: I think the style that is obviously missing from the boards is that of a middle aged woman pretending that they're still 21, and trying to emulate the style of their sister and failing to do it well at all.
I don't think the Truth is referring to me and London at all because it's talking about an older woman trying to emulate a younger sister and London doesn't do that, I think it's a misplaced comma.
I think the Truth is a) a poor troll or b) a middle aged woman who tries to copy the style of her 21 year old younger sister, but fails. Believe it or not, other cases of "sisters" have been reported.
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Although I admit that I was prone to the occasional barbed comment whilst in the guise of Colin or Sweet, neither were created to be annonymous logins from which to launch nasty attacks. They were, with limited success, attempts to create different "characters" to play around with on the boards and were only intended as a bit of fun (perhaps only for me).
Creating an alter-ego simply to attack someone just isn't my style. Added to which, given the history (and I'd like to think it is history by now) of tension between myself and london, it would be a pretty stupid move to launch straight into an attack on her in a first post as a troll.
Also, FWIW, I didn't think that The Truth's post made much sense as I can't think of any way in which the two sisters are similar in either style or content of posts.
I can understand the knee-jerk response troll=fish, but it's becoming a little tired. Especially since so much time has lapsed since I gave much of a damn about the boards either way.
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quote:Originally posted by Uber Trick: No no no - read it again:
quote:Originally posted by The Truth: I think the style that is obviously missing from the boards is that of a middle aged woman pretending that they're still 21, and trying to emulate the style of their sister and failing to do it well at all.
I don't think the Truth is referring to me and London at all because it's talking about an older woman trying to emulate a younger sister and London doesn't do that, I think it's a misplaced comma.
No, I think you have misread this. It isn't saying that by trying to emulate the style of their sister, they're pretending to be 21 -- which would indicate a younger sister. It is, I think, treating those two "sins" as separate.
It's confusing because if anything, if someone was being unkind, they would say that London perhaps projected a persona, or lived a lifestyle, younger than her actual age -- but Uber Trick who tried to emulate London's posts. This second point is a bit dubious but the reverse, London trying to emulate Uber Trick, certainly isn't true.
Sorry Fish for my guess, which was wrong and perhaps insulting to you. I thought it was a good bet. However, whoever The Truth is surely has to have a relatively long-term view of the boards, because London has barely posted over the last year. To accuse Uber of trying to chief her sister's style, you'd have to have read London's posts...which means The Truth must have been lurking since 2001!
Anyway it's nice to see London again on the boards! I am grateful to The Truth for drawing her out. I don't know whether to be amused or baffled by the fact that nobody picked me up on all the self-serving invention I posted on page 1 and the abrasive comments more immediately above. I guess people are just used to it.
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It's all bollocks kovacs, we all know that. I still don't see what you're trying to say, but perhaps I just don't care enough. I don't try to ape London and like I said she doesn't try to ape me, any similarities in our styles would be for the reasons she stated. Trying to induce paranoia in either side just ain't gonna work. I personally don't believe it to be a troll going for Amp or me whichever way you look at it and whatever spin you put on it.
eta: sorry, correction, I do see what you are trying to say but I don't agree, and also the "inducing paranoia" comment was a general comment and not just aimed at kovacs.
quote:Originally posted by kovacs: I don't know whether to be amused or baffled by the fact that nobody picked me up on all the self-serving invention I posted on page 1 and the abrasive comments more immediately above. I guess people are just used to it.
I thought for a minute about commenting on your anti-TCL stuff if that helps? I've realised that it's a complete waste of time though in general so I took a deep breath and left it. Except for this explanation of course which perhaps makes a liar of me.
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quote:Originally posted by Uber Trick: It's all bollocks kovacs, we all know that. I still don't see what you're trying to say, but perhaps I just don't care enough. I don't try to ape London and like I said she doesn't try to ape me, any similarities in our styles would be for the reasons she stated. Trying to induce paranoia in either side just ain't gonna work. I personally don't believe it to be a troll going for Amp or me whichever way you look at it and whatever spin you put on it.
Sometimes I think you are reading the same posts as me but upside down in a mirror. You come up with a response that just stuns me in how far it is from my understanding of what I or others wrote. Not to say that your interpretation is wrong, but it's often bafflingly different from mine and you seem to come out of left field accusing me of things I never dreamed I was doing.
I think it's entirely obvious that The Truth meant to insult you and/or London, and if you disagree then I do wonder what other pair of sisters you could possibly think that post was referring to. I'm not saying it was to stir paranoia: I think it was just an insult disguised as "straight-talking".
It's regrettable that we have given so much time to this newbie though, who obviously only really wanted to be malicious.
And in part I only slag off TCL so somebody will respond and explain why it's still going at all. That nobody does unfortunately confirms my poor opinion of it as a discussion board -- but then, who is sadder! the people posting on it, who probably do get some pleasure from it as a community, or me, reading it as "Guest" without any reward.
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Sorry, I'm working on innocent until proven guilty, perhaps that's just my naivity? If The Truth is a newbie who has a sister and all that like I said then they should come out and say it.
If it's someone trying to be mean to London and / or me it was poor and didn't make sense and to be honest I would be hard pressed to think of someone who would bear that kind of a grudge, not least because of the time implications which you stated. Which is why I find this to be highly unlikely.
I'm not quite sure exactly what you think I accused you of this time as I specifically edited my post to make it clear that I wasn't having a pop at you but was making a general comment to everyone or anyone who might want to induce paranoia for whatever reason.
But yes, I do often look at things differently from other people and so far this has taken me a long way in my career and has not been a bad thing! But I appreciate it may be confusing for others to be presented with an alternate view on something they saw as cut and dried. Alternate but not necessarily wrong.
Finally, I agree, way to much time has been spent on this!
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I deliberately ignored your edited addition, Uber, so I would have something to say. That's how desperate I have become to KEEP THE BOARDS GOING.
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I thought it was os truth was aimed at london /ubertrick but kind of missed the mark as id never considerred uber qas imitating london. all i know of london is zs at one piont, lots of zs.
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The boards are dying because people have run out of interesting things to say. That is, of course, if they haven't said it three times already. I count myself among these people. I must have started or contributed to at least two "what's on my desk" threads or something equally banal.
It's just dull. Even Ben and I can't last more than a few paragraphs these days. At the beginning smacking huge essays across the proverbial net was fun, but now it has become a time-consuming chore. I know, for when I saw an interesting thread the other week (or was it month?) I considered posting, but then thought of it as an hour of my life with which I could something infinitely more interesting. Like pull the weeds from the front garden.
There have been far too many meets. People know each other so well, and in spite of (and in some cases because of) the drips of new blood now and then, the air is stale. As is the tone of this post, of course.
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Perhaps we should designate a small number of people who are never allowed to go to meats and see the human face of Team Oh. They can therefore post indiscriminate vitriol without fear of being nasty to "real live people".
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Carved TMO on her clit just to make you feel bad
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quote:Originally posted by kovacs: I don't know whether to be amused or baffled by the fact that nobody picked me up on all the self-serving invention I posted on page 1 and the abrasive comments more immediately above. I guess people are just used to it.
Well, yeah, they are. I take about as much notice of your arrogant self-aggrandising as I'm sure you do of my nighilistic maundering. Is just Kovacs. You can't seriously have expected some form of response to 'I'm the second best poster on the boards' can you? What did you want? A long, involved, articulately argued, empirically evidenced discussion about who sits where in the uncomfortable echelons of the TMO hierarchy?
Incidentally, and I ask this in all seriousness, what do you want? And this question goes out to all those who feel that there are issues with the state of the boards. State of the boards threads hark back with rosy tinted nostalgia days of yore but never quite precisely state what the promise of those days of yore was made of. What three perfect threads would make TMO your acme, omega and perefction? It's not really good enough to complain that everything degenerates to chate or that Bamba and I having a go at each other is routine. What wouldn't be routine? What would tickle your synapses and make you glad to be here?
As for what is TCL for, you're a bright boy, Kovacs, so I find it difficult to imagine that you haven't worked that one out.
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You reached over with your hand and knocked my Jap over
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I think that what we have is fine, we just need a bit more of it.
Our employers need to be made to understand this, so as to reschedule our workloads accordingly.
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You reached over with your hand and knocked my Jap over
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To hark back to Dr. Benway's excellent first post. I remember when Seethru was exciting (to me, at least) then a lot of the relatively newer people such as Dr. Benway and Quantum Fish went to their first meat... and J999 and QFish did that excellent radio DJ type thread... and you could almost smell the anticipation through your monitor... and the meat seemed (from an outsiders view) to be a massive success... and the next few days after that the boards turned to incrowd chat... and there was a backlash... and the board was pronounced to be shit and ruined.
But then after that there were good threads and bad threads and mediocre threads...
I don't think this board is ruined... I don't think that everything that can be said has been said... I still talk about new stuff to my RL friends who I have known for much longer than I have been posting on bulletin boards. There are still good posters here.
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quote:Originally posted by Louche: Well, yeah, they are. I take about as much notice of your arrogant self-aggrandising as I'm sure you do of my nighilistic maundering. Is just Kovacs.
Yeah, I agree with this: I can see it is true.
quote:You can't seriously have expected some form of response to 'I'm the second best poster on the boards' can you?
The second-best all-round long-term poster, I think it was. And I think that is true. It's not even arrogant! it is very humble, for me.
Well, I expected a kind of raised-eyebrow O, that kovacs response, but then that doesn't really show up on the boards.
quote: State of the boards threads hark back with rosy tinted nostalgia days of yore but never quite precisely state what the promise of those days of yore was made of. What three perfect threads would make TMO your acme, omega and perefction?
That's a good question and could even make a good new thread. But I did state in some detail what I thought made Seethru (and I suppose also a good stretch of TMO) seem different. That is, the novelty and excitement of the very concept and context motivated and thrilled people into putting a lot of energy into the boards, which in turn kept up a high level of intensity and gravity, pulling people back. I genuinely think the novel idea of this type of communication and this type of community had a lot to do with it.
quote:As for what is TCL for, you're a bright boy, Kovacs, so I find it difficult to imagine that you haven't worked that one out.
Thanks! But it is an extremely small, quiet community, and most of you also seem to post elsewhere, so it remains an oddity to me.