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I recently read about this technique on another site. This technique requires you take along a good wingman or two. It can be used at most busy places from shopping malls, high streets to festivals.
You first select a woman from the crowd then you and your wingman follow her and you approach and open with a statement like this: "OMG, OMG, OMG, There is something I have to ask you" Drop to one knee. "Will you marry me?" Hold out a ring. Wing dives in at this point... "OMG OMG OMG I'm a priest! Let me conduct the wedding" Wing grabs all of the onlookers and pulls them away. "You can all be witnesses" Then grab your target by the arm, and place it in yours. The Priest begins the ceremony. "Do you (your name) take this Whats your name? ..." You say "I do" Then he asks the woman the same thing. Don't wait for a response. The wing cuts in with you may now kiss the bride. Extend your cheek for her to kiss. Then priest takes a Photo of you both kissing with a camera phone. Then turn to your "wife", chat a bit of rubbish about how fun that was, maybe hug a bit. Then ask if she wants you to MMS the photo to her? If she says no... say OMG come on these are our wedding photos! Then simply collect her phone number!
Here is a video clip of this tactic in use in London's Leicester Square: Click here
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That's an awful lot of dialogue and acting to have to squeeze in between the moment of initial contact and when the object of your solicitations either hits you or runs away, isn't it?
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People on the LSS seem to claim a huge success rate with this 'marriage' opener, which baffles the hell out of me because I can't imagine a single one of the girls I know responding to this with anything other than disgust and irritation. Could anyone, for example, imagine running this shit on Vogon Poetess without suddenly choking on your dialogue and spluttering to a halt as you were caught in the frosty net of her annihilating contempt, and the sky darkened, and the glasses on the tables around you started to shake and shatter and you realised think icy 'plink' 'plink' noise was that sound of your testicles freezing up and the dropping off?
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quote:Originally posted by Nathan Bleak: I can't imagine a single one of the girls I know responding to this with anything other than disgust and irritation.
Seconded.
If someone tried that on Nightowl their eyes would probably make rapid contact with her middle and index.
Can you imaging Steeloquin trying to pull this little trick off? It would make comedy viewing.
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quote:Originally posted by Nathan Bleak: People on the LSS seem to claim a huge success rate with this 'marriage' opener, which baffles the hell out of me because I can't imagine a single one of the girls I know responding to this with anything other than disgust and irritation. Could anyone, for example, imagine running this shit on Vogon Poetess without suddenly choking on your dialogue and spluttering to a halt as you were caught in the frosty net of her annihilating contempt, and the sky darkened, and the glasses on the tables around you started to shake and shatter and you realised think icy 'plink' 'plink' noise was that sound of your testicles freezing up and the dropping off?
Presumably though the PUA would neg her to get her bitch shields down something like "OMG OMG...oh... oh I was going to offer to marry you but I've just seen the size of your tits... never mind, I'll tell you what here's my number, send me a picture after the boob job yeh? laterz beeyatch"Posts: 1641
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I just can't see that working. I think if someone insulted her like that it would probably just make her even less likely to sleep with them.
I'm sorry - I know you're quite invested in this 'game' stuff, even if it is a slightly odd thing for a married man with a kid to repeatedly champion and defend. But I'm going to be honest with you - I think it's kind of lame. I think it's just there to present a cofidence boosting series of 'solutions' to women to make people feel better about themselves. I don't think there's anything sinister about it, really, because I don't think women can be - you know - controlled by a series of keypresses to enslave them to men's desires. Mostly it exists to make the men who practice it rich off people like yourself who buy the books etc, just like any self help publication.
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I can confidently say that there's not a woman alive who wouldn't use the "drops to knee" manouvre as an opportunity to rapidly depart.
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absolutely.
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quote:Originally posted by Nathan Bleak: I just can't see that working. I think if someone insulted her like that it would probably just make her even less likely to sleep with them.
I'm sorry - I know you're quite invested in this 'game' stuff, even if it is a slightly odd thing for a married man with a kid to repeatedly champion and defend. But I'm going to be honest with you - I think it's kind of lame. I think it's just there to present a cofidence boosting series of 'solutions' to women to make people feel better about themselves. I don't think there's anything sinister about it, really, because I don't think women can be - you know - controlled by a series of keypresses to enslave them to men's desires. Mostly it exists to make the men who practice it rich off people like yourself who buy the books etc, just like any self help publication.
Yeh I know what you're saying, I just read the book after my 'single' brother told me about it and found it quite interesting, my wife also read it. One of my guiltiest secrets is that I enjoy those transformation shows where they take a loser and change their image, body language and mannerisms to make them winner. 'Would like to meet', Queer eye for a straight guy', 'Trinny and Susanna' and the one that was based on two american PUA's and three UK guys who were self conscious of their bodies - 'Seduction School' that sort of thing and the book is perhaps a more extreme version of that.
Have I championed it? I only recall recommending it to steelgate as I thought (and was correct) that he would be the sort of person who would enjoy it, I know I've defended it too, but really only because I have actually read it and found some of the more extreme reaction to it a bit over the top.
Obviously there's nothing in it I would put into practice, and even if I were single I don't think I'd actually try any of this shit. When I was single and going out I don't think I ever actually went on 'the pull' I hate the idea of 'chatting someone up' and any person I actually 'got off' with was a result of drunken bravado and/or basic physical attraction with little or no 'chate'.
I don't think the book really qualifies as a self-help publication, although you can obviously follow up on many of the techniques mentioned within it as we've all witnessed with Harley.
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I can actually imagine the 'marriage' scenario working, up to a point. I think it takes advantage of peoples' politeness, and desire not to offend. If the PUA was being sufficiently charming and self-deprecating (unlikely, I admit), and caught the 'target' in enough of a whirlwind of chat and activity that there was never a moment to escape, she might think she'd go along with it as it would be awkward to escape without looking like a bad sport. She would, however, give a false phone number.
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Yeah, especially if - as in the clip above - you stick a video camera in the face of the people involved. They probably thought they were going to be on TV.
But it's like the first few times you got approached by a chugger. You sort of stop and play along but the whole time you were uncomfortable and awkward and had no intention of giving the person what they wanted, but you stuck with it at the minimum level of polite social interaction. Now of course, it's just head-down-get-out-of-my-way-you-failed-actor-c**t.
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quote:Originally posted by Nathan Bleak: Yeah, especially if - as in the clip above - you stick a video camera in the face of the people involved. They probably thought they were going to be on TV.
Yeah, it would be worth buying *this for £20. Probably the best pick-up prop available for the money. It doesn't matter that it may not be in working order, you just need someone to wield it in a professional looking way as you talk into it. Instant 'stardom'. Posts: 14015
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I think the LSS are a bit lame to be honest. If you see any video clips of the American guys who were doing this, like Neil Srauss, they come across as funny, fun people. Like, Strauss isn’t an attractive person, his voice is squeaky and a bit camp, but you can see why girls would like him.
By comparison in all the videos I’ve seen of guys of LSS, it’s basically a bunch of charmless twats who have nothing going for them, going out and trying to pull the easiest, dimmest, most generic girls out there. Sure they may enjoy some limited success but I doubt any women would genuinely find them attractive.
Stuff like this marriage opener, it’s just ridiculous. The idea is that it’s meant to seem spontaneous and fun, but it just comes across as scripted and pathetic. I can’t see how this would work with any halfway intelligent woman.
There’s a lot of stuff in the PU bag of tricks that seems genuinely useful. Understanding how the way you present yourself impacts upon other people’s perceptions of you, and learning how to avoid the common mistakes that people make. Stuff like this though seems to miss the point somewhat. These guys don’t seem cool or funny or interesting, they just seems like idiots.
But then, I suppose if you were cool and funny and interesting, you wouldn’t need to do this kind of crap in the first place.
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The thing is, this marriage opener is the sort of pointless shit I'd do when I was a horny 18/20 year old who couldn't keep it in his pants.
It's OK to be a prick, an insensitive, horny, sexist, randy prick when you're 18 - You can blame it on hormones and the excess of youth, but pulling shit like this when you're over 20 is pretty fucking weak.
You could certainly pull as RINGO says “easiest, dimmest, most generic girls out there” but the operative word in that is “girls” – You’d never get a woman to fall for this crap, not unless she had the brain of a fucking five year old.
The whole thing creeps me out.
I think sterilization is the way forward, that or chemical castration.
quote:Originally posted by Ringo: I think the LSS are a bit lame to be honest. If you see any video clips of the American guys who were doing this, like Neil Srauss, they come across as funny, fun people. Like, Strauss isn’t an attractive person, his voice is squeaky and a bit camp, but you can see why girls would like him.
It's the same with pron. In American porno, the "oh yeahs" sound cheesy but kind of right, but when you see British pron, any sounds made by the participants just seem embarrassingly lame and cringeworthy.
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I was seeing this chick once who made those American porno moans during sex, in an American accent despite the fact she was British. It totally threw my concentration. A complete boner dethroner.
Anyway, as much as I hate to admit it, Americans have this ability to sound cool no matter what they’re saying. This applies less to people in the southern states, mind. I’m not sure why that is. British accents either sound uptight/posh, chavvy, or northern. But never really cool like that.
Maybe next time I’m out ‘sarging’ I should adopt an American accent…
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quote:Originally posted by Ringo: British accents either sound uptight/posh, chavvy, or northern. But never really cool like that.
The worst is SurreySexSpeak. I saw some pron once, with this bloke who talked to the girl in traditional American pron dialogue, but with the sort of voice you might remember from the 'hilarious' Milky-Milky man on The Mary Whitehouse Experience. Unwatchable.
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Britishers who sound cool, no matter what they're saying:
Malcolm MacDowell Anthony Hopkins Gary Oldman Julie Christie Alan Rickman Gabriel Byrne Judi Dench Ginger Wildheart Adrian Lester Miranda Richardson
Americans who will never sound cool, no matter what they say
Sean William Scott Tara Reid Charlie Sheen Chris Tucker Dexter Offspring... actually most US musicians, probably easier to do a list of the ones who sound cool.
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By the way did anyone watch the video clip of this tactic in use. AFC Adam manages to get a snog off a girl using this technique.Click here.Posts: 1396
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