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Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
Just *out of interest*, you know. Or maybe we could talk about games! Or not - either way is fine!

I've just made it through the first four parts of Phoenix wright, which I've enjoyed, and am pleased to read the the fifth part is way longer than the first four. Not since a Sierra game have I got so frustrated/excited about puzzle solving, even if the puzzles are for the most part very simple. Still I wasn't sure how much I'd get out of it after cruising through the first two parts fairly easily, but the last one was great. Ridiculous, but entertaining. It's a great game... very text heavy, kind of like a hentai game, with characters popping up and having conversations, complete with lots of internal thought from you as phoenix. But the cases, while not 'clever', are always nigh on unbreakable apart from one or two tiny details which you then mine until the case collapses. I got into it way more than I expected to, and for the first time in a month I'm playing something other than Animal Crossing.

Also dug out Wind Waker again after the E3 showing of the new Zelda, and was [Frown] to see that the last person to play it was Raz, around two years ago. Still haven't finished it, mostly because I got bored raising money to pay for Tingle to translate maps. In the spirit of playing old games, I also had a crack at Metroid, and couldn't control it, let alone have a chance at defeating the Omega Pirate, where I left the game in 2004.

Also - has anybody played 'Shadowgrounds'? Picked it up, started it, and it looks okay. Has anybody persevered with this?

Aside from all that horseshit that I just said - what are people are 'rocking' at the moment?

[ 07.06.2006, 08:55: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I enjoyed twelve hours of Resident Evil 4 at Rong'un's last weekend. I enjoyed it immenesly. It didn't quite have the feeling of dread that the first one inspired but I would go 'sheeeereeeereeeeeeee-it' whenever any Il Illuminados busted out all manners of whup on me. There's the nervous swapping of guns when their heads pop off to reveal an insect creature inside. I love the 'Thing' inspired hounds that lash at you. It also includes a cute girl, which without the inclusion of a skirt that lifts up to reveal panties, would be a game incomplete. I would, with my pixelated peeny.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
I played that through again recently. It's just perfect ain't it. Restarting so you've got all the top weapons and then bowling into the village and shooting everybody in the face is pretty much arcade heaven. I've also been trying to do 'Mercenaries' mode but fucking hell that's hard as fuck.

[ 07.06.2006, 09:04: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I've been quitely playing this at my desk for the last few hours. [Frown]
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Benway:
I've also been trying to do 'Mercenaries' mode but fucking hell that's hard as fuck.

What's that? Sounds interesting.

My favourite part was shooting the cultists with the shields using the magnum. Bakoom! In your face, fuckstick. Haha! Kill another. I had to stop Ringo from suggesting I was the little boy in the game though. Best to nip these insults in the bud early.

I've also been playing Unreal. On my own, without any of you guys [Frown]
 
Posted by turbo (Member # 593) on :
 
I've been playing Fallout for the last few weeks. Much better than all those fancy shmancy games.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I'm with you, George. Old school all the way. [Smile]
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Benway:
I've also been trying to do 'Mercenaries' mode but fucking hell that's hard as fuck.

What's that? Sounds interesting.

I've also been playing Unreal. On my own, without any of you guys [Frown]

You get 1.5 minutes on the clock to kill as many dudes as possible. You can choose a location from the game and you're given a pistol and a shotgun, and then go apeshit. You can find things to extend your time or get double points, and basically the aim is to get a rating (either four or five stars, I can't remember) to unlock different playable characters. It's really hard, and proper sweaty palms stuff. Running around the village is great, jumping through windows, climbing over roofs, just killing as many guys as you can is exciting, but hard when the chainsaw people appear in pairs.


also, I like unreal but I can't seem to get it to run properly. It always seems a bit slow for me, lagging to the point where it's a slideshow rather than a game. Also, I am shit at it, and just run around firing indiscriminately until somebody (usually a 10 year old yank) puts me out of misery and has a laugh at me. Same with HL2 and CounterStrike: Source.

[ 07.06.2006, 09:21: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I have just finished F.E.A.R. which I found thoroughly enjoyable if rather repetetive. As with the Max Payne games, I found the bullet time feature a lot of fun and combined with quicksave, it allows you to easily test out different methods of combat. Even when I'd succesfully cleared a room, I would frequently quickload, just for the fun of trying it again with a different weapon or approach. The plot wasn't bad for a videogame but it's a shame to have to apply that condition to almost every game. Deus Ex, though, blah, blah...

As well as playing through a few old Mario classics, I've been exploring the world of freeware and shareware games.

*Plasma Pong is completely free, looks amazing and actually gets pretty challenging:

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*Binary Zoo have produced some excellent shooters (mono and duo) which are also free and deserve a mention here.

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Trackmania Nations

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A cross between the genres of racing and puzzle, thanks to the bizarre stunt tracks, TMN allows you to hone your skills offline, customize your car and then take on the world's best online, all for *free. Plus you can design your own ridiculous tracks.

If you like physics based games, you'll find a wealth of amazingly addictive content at the *Fun-Motion site. My particular favourites include:

Zen Bondage

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It involves wrapping a 3D object with rope (seriously).

Ski Stunt Simulator
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This is strictly 2D and requires a good understanding of balance, inertia and mouse control. Hellishly addictive.

In terms of retail games...

Hitman: Blood Money

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I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the fourth installment of the series. I've enjoyed all of the previous games, thanks to the immense replayability factor.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I managed to find a Playstation ISO of Parappa the Rapper (The Hip-Hop Hero). Sadly I can't get it to run smoothly through an emulator on PC, which is pretty much vital when you're playing a rhythm game [insert birth control gag].

"In the rain or in the snow,
Got the funky, funky flow"


I'm tempted to buy (are you feeling okay, Misc?) the next installment of Half Life 2, entitled simply Episode One. It's about $20 via Steam or £20 in a shop, which seems like a lot of money for about five hours' entertainment, but... well... it is Half Life, isn't it?

There seems to be a trend emerging for episodic content at the moment. SIN Episodes is another Source-based game which is delivered via Steam. From the reviews I've read it's not a patch on the game upon which it was based. Shame.

To conclude my Half Life section, I should mention the single player *Minerva mod, now on its second installment with a third due shortly. The level design is excellent and the graphics are on a par with HL2 itself.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
I was playing Half Life Episode One last night, and it's really really good. There's a great idea about every two minutes. It's really slickly put together. However, there's some kind of bug which is stopping the next chapter from loading properly, which means I can't actually progress with it anymore. I don't know whether this was my computer misbehaving last night, or a problem with the install. Because about it over fucking stupid idiot Steam, I'm going to have to take it off my hard drive and then install it all over again. This is apparently the future of gaming. I really hate Steam.

I also had a crack at SiN Episode One, which was largely a big barrel of monkey spunk. At first glance it seemed to tick all the right boxes for my gaming requirements: bright colours, noisy explosions every other second and - crucially - cut scenes featuring enormous jiggling tits. So I was kind of astonished to find that I wasn't enjoying it at all. There were a couple of good moments where people got set on fire and screamed convincingly, but other than that the thing was so absolutely simplistic and repetitive I found myself wishing for some kind of cerebral engagement, and that's something that almost never happens.

It's also very old fashioned. It seems strange and stupidly unrealistic now - after the likes of FEAR, Far Cry and call of duty 2, to have weapons that are absolutely precisely accurate to a pixel, for example. Plus the enemies are complete cretins. I'd forgotten how ridiculous it is to play a game where you accidentally miss a shot at someone's head, shattering the glass behind them, and they continue doing whatever they were doing as though nothing had happen. See also: shooting a guard in the middle of their conversation, and having their partner act as though nothing has happened even though their mate's brains are splattered over their jumpsuit. Rubbish.
 
Posted by Fionnula the Cooler (Member # 453) on :
 
I mean, I was warned it wasn't really a game as such, but Jesus. Nobody told me it was primary school homework. Times tables, memory tests, close reading, join the dots, colour recognition ... that kind of shit. Same microphones problems as Nintendogs. Except this time it tries to make out it's your own fault for being Scottish or something. You're like, 'Blue. Blue. BLUE. Blooo. Buh-loo. Boo. Loo. Fucksake, why won't you just recognise my voice? Why do you hate me? What have I ever done, hm? What did I ever do to deserve this?' and then you spend the remainder of the time limit blaming the DS for everything bad that's every happened to you, until it goes, 'WE HAVE CALCULATED THE AGE OF YOUR BRAIN. YOUR BRAIN IS EIGHTY YEARS OLD. (YOU DO NOT KNOW THE COLOUR BLUE).' So yeah. Brain Age is gash. No one buy it. Unless you like sudoku puzzles. In which case. Well. You're kind of a **** , aren't you? No offence.

Instead, buy New Super Mario Bros. Which is brilliant. Not as brilliant as SMB3 or Super Mario World, obvs, and not brilliant enough for me to be arsed enough to write about it. But, you know. Brilliant. Yeah. Will that do?

Also been playing Pikmin 2 and We Love Katamari, which are kind of similar, I guess, except for the fact that Pikmin 2 is like, yeah, and We Love Katamari is like, meh. Is that enough?
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
I've heard that 'blue' is a known problem on that 'game'. And isn't it aimed more at people who are in danger of suffering from Alzheimers, rather than bright sparks in their early twenties?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Can I actually play any games on my mac or should I just stick to the xbox 360?
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
You can play games on the mac but save yourself the hassle and don't bother. My housemate was supplied a G5 mac, top of the range, flashy as all hell and it still didn't run Doom 3 without jerking all over the place. In fact Star Wars Battlefront was jerky too. Dissapointing.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
I've never bothered to try playing games on macs. It made me laugh when I went to the apple show and they had a bank of about 20 top o' the range G5 Towers linked up to 23" widescreen displays with kids playing games. I mean for fucks sake why spend £2500 on a a mac system just so you can play games?

I'd be kinda interested to see how halo runs on a macmini though.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Mine's a core-duo mac mini so should be ok to run some games. But apparently you have to go to a "shop" and then "purchase" the games. That sounds like a whole lot of hassle.

I'll stick with the sexbox
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I’ve been playing my way through Tomb Raider – Legend on the Xbox, completing the story mode last night. I found it surprisingly enjoyable, barring a couple of control mechanism niggles, and the game gets back to the essential nitty-gritty jumping/climbing/swimming/shooting action of the series’ earlier titles whilst looking very nice indeed.

I’ve also been playing the less pretty GTA – Liberty City Stories on PS2, converted back from the PSP and released on a budget price point. It’s pretty good in the GTA way but suffers from comparison to both of the post GTA III games, Vice City and (particularly) San Andreas. It lacks much of the scope and humour of those titles, and has a greatly diminished radio soundtrack, and after an extended period of play last weekend I found myself somewhat jaded by the repetitious carnage, the first time I think I’ve ever felt that playing at GTA title.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
Got Trauma Center and Mario+Luigi: Partners in Time about a week ago. Trauma Center is fucking hard as hell, to the point where it wasn't fun, so I haven't picked it up much. Mario+Luigi is great though. Very similar to the Paper Mario RPG games, with the same kind of action orientated turn based combat, and a plot based around collected shards of a star to save the princess. It's lovely, very immersive, and rewarding. The artwork is attractive, the jokes are heartwarming, and you can get a fair few hours out of it. Probably up there with Phoenix Wright / Advance Wars / Animal Crossing.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Not anything that I'm playing as such but I just got a Swap Magic CD and 'magic card' to allow me to play 'backups' and imported games on my PS2.

Pretty soon I'll be playing Initial D: Special Stage which is only available in Japan. Downside - Japanese menus. I'm sure I'll work it out though, it's just a driving game after all.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Popped over my friends house for an enjoyable computer games romp on the weekend and sampled Shadow of the Collosus, which BR had been playing. It has a certain feeling about the game that is both beautiful and eerie. I managed to topple 6 Collossi and find the 7th before falling down some steps. I like games of this caliber where I can immerse myself into the world. Of course, it's the same studio as Ico, but I'm treading old ground here.

God of War has a chunky, lush feel to it. It benefits from great clipping and smooth controls. You really feel like you are manipulating Kratos with ease across ship masts, old churches and the rooftops of Athens whilst being bombarded by a 100ft Aries. The weapons that the gods generously hand to Kratos can be upgraded, unleashing more powers as you go along. It is strangely bloodthirsty and plays out like the sort of film you could only have dreamed of in the eighties. Basically, the game is a Jason and the Arganauts style affair, with gratuitous tit-shots instead of shonky animation. I enjoyed about five hours of that, and I'd like to play more.

I also played Star Wars Episode 3 as well, but that was complete trout.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
God of War is an excellent game to watch someone else playing. The effects are just so silly. And the music is rather stirring. Also good for watching other people play: Tony Hawkes games.

That is the sum of my Games related contribution. I'm still fascinated by Bejewelled.
 
Posted by Good Fairy (Member # 479) on :
 
I picked up 007 Rogue Agent(PS2) for £2 on sat from an Argos pikey sale place. So only spent about an hour on it. Very enjoyable shoot em up. Dont think I would have spent £30 on it, but WELL worth £2.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Louche:
God of War is an excellent game to watch someone else playing.

Apparently they are bandying about making it into a flim. Which would be, you know alright. Tits.
 
Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
 
So my fathr in law won an Xbox 360 in a sweepstakes, and rather than sell it on Ebay, he's giving it to us! Woohoo! Apparently it comes with one wireless controller, the whole xbox live thingy nd a headseat. PLUS! Six games. Which brings me to my question...

Has anyone played the following games, and if so, are they any good? Also, has anyone played the new Xbox, and do you like it?

Games:

Call to duty 2
Elements of Power
Dead or Alive 4
Perfect Dark Zero
Project Gotham Racing 3

(The other game is Madden 06, which will be exchanged for another game, as A and I hate American football. )

Thanks.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Amy:
Call to duty 2

Call of Duty 2 is fantastic on the PC (even better than the excellent CoD1). I can't comment on the xbox 360 as my hands spazz up whenever I try and play an FPS without a mouse and keyboard.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I'm playing XIII on the Gamecube. It's an FPS. It is good. I got it off eBay for a couple of bob. I also got Wreckless, some dopey 'Yakuza' racing game. That sucks ass.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I'd like to play a game set in 1950s Los Angeles, where your character (the bastard daughter of Betty Page and Ed Gein) is brainwashed by the Chinese to smuggle a nuclear device (which is disguised as a teenaged boy) into the lot of MGM studios. You have to use guile, pussy and ultraviolence to achieve your ends. The bomb is detonated when penetrated by Cary Grant. David Niven is tipped off to your plot and enlists the help of Hollywood's finest to hunt you down with Thompson machine-guns.
 
Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
quote:
Originally posted by Amy:
Call to duty 2

Call of Duty 2 is fantastic on the PC (even better than the excellent CoD1). I can't comment on the xbox 360 as my hands spazz up whenever I try and play an FPS without a mouse and keyboard.
Ah. So, it's an FPS...thanks MF.

I've just gone and looked up most of the games on ign, The Elements of Power game looks pretty good.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
I'd like to play a game set in 1950s Los Angeles, where your character (the bastard daughter of Betty Page and Ed Gein) is brainwashed by the Chinese to smuggle a nuclear device (which is disguised as a teenaged boy) into the lot of MGM studios. You have to use guile, pussy and ultraviolence to achieve your ends. The bomb is detonated when penetrated by Cary Grant. David Niven is tipped off to your plot and enlists the help of Hollywood's finest to hunt you down with Thompson machine-guns.

me too.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I'm totally looking forward to this:

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
And this is sure to be a smash in 2007...

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Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
I'm totally looking forward to this:

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LOL, excellent - You should b3ta that.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Is it just me, or is the 360 remote kinda phallic?

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Something tells me this will be a perfect title for the DS...

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Darryn.R:
b3ta that.

b3taed!
 
Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Something tells me this will be a perfect title for the DS...

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Lol.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
This weekend I bought Dragon Quest for the Sony Playstation 2

When saving last night, me and Mikee realised that we'd clocked up near enough 30 hours of gameplay since Saturday evening.

That's how good it is...
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
Have you seen this strange looking controller Ringo?

What's the score with Dragon Quest fella? Is it an rpg?

Before I was in foreign I was playing cheap old games I bought for small pouns, such as Fifa 2005 (decent, apart from corners) and Medal of Honor - Rising Sun (just about ok and really quite short in single player, but you can't complain for £1 can you?)
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
old timers to TMO may recall me once blabbing on about a 'revolutionary' thing called facade. It's called an interactive drama rather than a 'game', and it places you in a crude fps world, based around you turning up round a couple's apartment for some drinks, and then some major arguments starting. You type in speech, and interact with the couple to form a kind of play.

Anyway! The point is it used to be a whopping 800mb download, but new audio compression has brought it to about 170mb. You can pick it up here. Worth a look. The longer you spend with it, the more complex and involving it becomes. It's a torrent download.

If that all sounds too much, then try ninja loves pirate a small demo of a 2d side scrolling action adventure. Only about 15 minutes of fun, but it's clearly a labour of love.


and, I would very much like to play dragon quest. I think a ps2 might be my next purchase.

[ 29.08.2006, 05:22: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boy Racer:
Have you seen this strange looking controller Ringo?

What's the score with Dragon Quest fella? Is it an rpg?

I’ve not seen one of those controllers no.

Dragon Quest is a RPG with cool cell shaded graphics and artwork by the person who does Dragonball Z – i.e. cute anime style graphics. In terms of gameplay it’s basically a cross between Final Fantasy, in its turn based ‘oh noes, another random encounter!’ combat sequences, and Zelda with its not-quite-middle-ages-monsters-and-swordsmen type roleplay. It’s really addictive, like most RPGs, in that you have to improve your characters, learn new spells, buy new weapons etc etc, and spending hours just exploring the huge landscape can be really rewarding as there is a continuous stream of cool new stuff to find. A real bonus in my eyes was the underhanded stab at Londoners, when you go to a village called ‘Pickham’ but I don’t really want to spoil it for anyone.

Basically, if you enjoyed either Final Fantasy, or Legend of Zelda, you’ll love this game. It gets a hearty thumbs up from me, and considering I generally only enjoy car racing games, that’s strong praise indeed.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Mrs Mask bought herself a DS, the Masketeers quickly annexed it, and I am now muscling in on their action. I am currently enjoying Nintendogs. My corgi, Rex, is a master frisbee catcher, despite being so very, very tiny.

Any DS recommendations?

Anyone?
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attourney and Animal Crossing
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Have you played Phoenix Wright, Benway?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
What about Trauma Centre? Anyone played that?
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
I've finished phoenix wright, and it's lovely. Charming, funny, and immersive. It's like a text adventure but done with graphics. The puzzles generally relate to finding and studying objects and presenting them to characters during investigation and court interrogation. It's got a really warm sense of humour, and some bizarre 'only in japan' touches. A joy.

Trauma centre seemed to get bastard hard after about an hour of play, and after five or six attempts, I gave up for the time being because I got Mario + Luigi Partners in Time at the same time, and that's a great game. If you like turn based combat RPGs with a bit of timed skill.

Other games I've really enjoyed were Advance Wars, New Super Mario, and Ouendan, which I've banged on about quite a lot. Mario Kart is okay, but I never really got into it even after getting online. That game hurts my hands. I would still like to get Castlevania and Meteos.

[ 08.09.2006, 11:49: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
Thing is I don't even like mario, but he seems to have bagged quite a few of the top titles to come out on the ds so far. Mario Kart, New Super Mario, Mario 64 DS, Mario Hoops 3 on 3, Mario + Luigi partners in time. You've also got games based on Princess Peach, Yoshi, and Wario. So, you don't really have much chance of avoiding the little fella.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I don't think I've played a Mario game since Donkey Kong...

Tell a lie. The Masketeers got Super Smash Brothers on Gamecube, that had Mario in it. I played that.

I see from Amazon that the DS has a Resident Evil game. I imagine that would be quite shit, though. Plus, I saw an advert in a comic the other day for a DS Justice League game. The advert looked quite promising, but then, that's their job, right?
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
that resident evil game is just resident evil 1. I've just told you all the good games.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Benway:
I've just told you all the good games.

All of them?

Fuck.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
well, all the good ones I've got.

check out dsfanboy.com for ds news things
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Woo, I just picked up Outrun 2006 Coast to Coast for the PSP, with the original 86 music and a slightly updated version of the original Outrun to play with..

A bit fiddly on a handheld, but still great fun.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
I think the time has come that I should buy a PSP - whats the best deal you found Darryn?
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
They all seem to work out at about 249.00 Euros for the pack with a game, 32mb card, charger and soft cover.

2GB memory sticks are about 80.00 Euros from the Office Centre/Dixons.

E-Plaza have always done me well, though I bought my new one from the Media Markt where it was a little cheaper.

They all seem to come now with Loco Roco as the game, that or Daxter... I think you're best off trying to find one with GTA Liberty City included.

If you can't find one with GTA Liberty City included then the base unit costs 199.00 Euro pretty much all over, but you don't get a card or a case with it.

But like I say, 2GB memory sticks are about 80.00 Euros from the Office Centre/Dixons so the cards not really needed and you need a better case than the soft one, I say get the Logitech® PlayGear Pocket (12.50 Euros from E-Plaza) as you can make custom paper inserts and customize the case, plus you can use it as a stand when watching a Divx and charge it without having to remove it.

Bart Smit also do a desktop charger with a funky blue light for charging the PSP upright on your desk for 3.00 Euros.

Plus if you're ver feeling in the mood to play with the software you can use Devhook and a downgraded version of the PSP firmware (version 1.5) to play homebrew games (or downloaded games from the web).

There's a vast array of other rubbish available for the PSP as well, including a gadget that turns it into a PS2 allowing you to play games on the television and use a Playstation controller, you could also watch films via this too I imagine.

The PINK PSP comes out soon too if you wanted to be a gay, which you don't.

My white one doesn't half get a dirty joystick though, Femke's black one doesn't.

[ 10.09.2006, 08:30: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
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Also - if you have avoided buying the Star Wars Trilogy on DVD because of the stupid CGI add-ons of the "Special" Edition, then * your prayers have been answered.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
As I'm off work ill today with arse problems, I've been considering going and buying Lego Star Wars 2 plus the new original trilogy DVDs, to help alleviate my boredome. I reckon if I go now then I stand a decent chance of fitting in all 3 films before I have to go and see emma this evening. I might not go to see her to be honest, if my arse doesn't get any better. There's no value in recreating certain scenes from Trainspotting..
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
As I'm off work ill today with arse problems

Forgive me, Lord. What kind of problems are you having there Ringo?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Well this morning things were critical, but I'm now describing the situation as 'serious but stable'.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Sounds like you need more fiber in your diet. [Frown]
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Ok I have mostly been playing:

Need for Speed
Loco Roco (Demo)

This weekend I will be playing Tiger Woods 07 (My dad should be able to join in then)
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I've been playing "Need For Speed Underground: Most Wanted" on the PC and it is fucking shit.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Shit because it's on the PC or shit because it's a shit game ?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Shit game. Looks good on the PC, but it's mad boring.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
I had a go at Need For Speed on the PSP, buggerd if I could steer the car at all, I'll stick to Outrun..

I've also developed a motion sickness problem with the PSP, if I play for too long I get really dizzy and sick feeling and when I close my eyes I can still see or feel the movement of Outrun..

Or Loco Roco which is even odder.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
Welcome Mr Big Nuts.

Apart from Puzzle Bobble on my phone, I'm only really playing FIFA 2005 at present, in the brief moments between work, DIY, watching dvds of Deadwood, and sleep. I’m currently winning everything as Barca in Career, but I suspect I’ll only stay with them for a season since club loyalty seems not to have been figured into the structure of the game.

I plan to be getting Yakuza very shortly, and am working on persuading my 360 owning flatmate to get Dead Rising.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'd like a 360 but I'd have to get a new tv as well. I suppose I'll have to get one eventually, but that's a huge amount of cash just to be able to pop make-believe caps in virtual asses.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Still playing Halo 2 on xbox original. Not getting any better. I guess after two years of playing this game online I'm really only a level 12 Rumble pit player. I do know where most of the good weapons are now on most of the maps which helps. But overall it's incredibly dispiriting getting pwned, owned, raped, being called a noob, noobie, faggot, nigger, faggot nigger, being called garbage, being told I suck, I totally suck, I suck ass, I suck niggers ass, being told my mum sucks ass. Being told I have no teeth, to brush my teeth and being called australian.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
how much of that is true though?
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
not is a faggot nigger, but he'll fuck anyone up who dares point it out. Be warned.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
That's not the point, the point is it's rude.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Are americans more racist and homophobic than UK? because that's the impression I get. I mean, amongst the young it seems to be normal to call someone a nigger or a faggot, on xbox live anyhow. UK kids don't seem to do this.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
NFS:MW on the Gamecube is fan-fucking-tastic. The feeling of elation when you finally jump the bridge with Cross on your tail...

I am currently playing Lego Star Wars on the DS. It's like game-heroin.

EDIT: Did I say 'jumb'? I meant 'jump', but you knew that.

[ 27.09.2006, 08:32: Message edited by: Black Mask ]
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
I've got Need for Speed for my PSP - its ok I think if you like racing games. Still haven't started on Liberty city yet strangely - last few days have been playing Tiger Woods.

Is that Lego Trilogy coming out for the PSP do you know?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
wrong! It's lame. The game is lame. I played for a whole day and didn't encounter a single corner that couldn't be taken by just easing off the gas for a second. The whole street racing setup was retarded, and the action itself was repetitive and draining. Plus the car upgrade system was limited. Perhaps the only good bit is when you're doing those ones where you've got to accumulate so many points in cop chases, but even then, the fact that you are indestructable makes that all seem ridiculous. There were better car chases in Driver.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Waynster - I don't know

Jimmy Big Nuts - You are a spazz
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
you're cruising for a punch in the nuts

[ 27.09.2006, 09:02: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
What nuts?

[ 27.09.2006, 08:57: Message edited by: Black Mask ]
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
Oh dear.
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
Is that Lego Trilogy coming out for the PSP do you know?

Affirmative.
 
Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by not...:
That's not the point, the point is it's rude.

And I bet they are all kids or teens who are sayiing those things. I mean, I heard a 12y/o girl the other day talking like she was a truck driver. She was TWELVE.

Kids think they're being cool by being rude. I guess. Either that or it's because their parents are kids themselves. I think my generation may be the last gen that was raised by adults.

As for what I'm playing: nothing right now. I've given up on the new Tomb Raider, b/c I'm stuck fighting the Yakuza and can't beat the big baddie. Hmpf.

As for our new sparkly xbox 360, no games were inside and we can't seem to find a game that we both want to play or that's 2 player. Any suggestions?
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zygote:
quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
Is that Lego Trilogy coming out for the PSP do you know?

Affirmative.
excellent woo !
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Looking forward to *Alan Wake in 2007. Sounds like I might need an upgrade though...

[ 28.09.2006, 05:09: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Looking forward to *Alan Wake in 2007. Sounds like I might need an upgrade though...

wow
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Ace news on the Lego Star Wars - I saw it for the PS2 (well the box anyway) - unsure of peoples console orientation, has anyone (and Misc I am looking squarley at you here) got/played this yet? Care to give us a little insight into whats it all about?
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Amy:
As for our new sparkly xbox 360, no games were inside and we can't seem to find a game that we both want to play or that's 2 player. Any suggestions?

Prey - very good, and extremely pretty, FPS.
Dead Rising - Brilliant George Romero homage/rip-off
Lego Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy - Brilliant fun, two player
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
Care to give us a little insight into whats it all about?

quote:
Lifted from Amazon (Xbox version)

Product Features

Expands upon all of the fun and creativity that made the original LEGO Star Wars such a hit, this time set during the original three Star Wars films (Episodes IV, V, VI).

For the first time ever, build and ride vehicles (landspeeders, AT-STs, speeder bikes and more) and mount creatures (from the banthas of desert Tatooine to the tauntauns of frigid Hoth) through on-foot levels.

All non-droid characters - not just those with the Force - have the power to build

Unlock more than 50 playable characters, from cultural icons like Luke, Leia and Darth Vader to fan favourites such as Greedo, Jawas and Gamorrean guards

Unlock up to 54 more playable characters with a game save from the original LEGO Star Wars
Create unique playable characters like Yoda Kenobi, Lando Fortuna and millions more by mixing and matching the LEGO body parts of all playable characters.

In Free Play mode, experience the Original Trilogy in a new way by importing any character into land levels, or switch between vehicles at will in space levels. Make Darth Maul a hero of the Rebellion, or destroy the Death Star with a TIE fighter

Character-specific attacks include Chewbacca pulling enemies' arms out of their sockets, Vader's Force choke, Leia's "slap" melee attack and many more.

Tongue-in-cheek humour presents the Original Trilogy in a manner only LEGO can put together, with comical reinterpretations of classic Star Wars scenes and elements.

Solve a greater variety of puzzles that encourage creative thinking through the use of teamwork and unique building situations only possible in a LEGO galaxy far, far away.

The adaptive difficulty option creates more challenging gameplay for Jedi Master gamers - the better you do, the tougher it gets.

Cooperative gameplay encourages teamwork in a fun way and features a revamped camera for an optimal gameplay experience.



[ 28.09.2006, 07:16: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Lego SW is a bit buggy on the DS, but, it's so cool I'm prepared to overlook the camera going off for a wander, occasionally.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
or, go to gamespot.com. They may have poo-pooed the idea of employing me to do monkey CMS work, but they've got in game footage of the game. I do love gamespot.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
The carbonised Han character is good, his signature move is hopping up and down and then falling over.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I got Yakuza last week and managed to get a bit of play in on the weekend when I wasn't still decorating.

It's pretty good so far, the combat system makes up for it's slight lack of finesse and repetitive nature through the sheer brutal pleasure of smashing a lead pipe or bicycle or whatever into whichever lippy upstart has been stupid enough to cross you on the path to your next mission objective.

The missions thus far have varied in nature and complexity from infiltrating heavily guarded funerals to saving puppies. There also appear to be some interesting sub-games; wooing hostess girls and hitting homers in baseball batting cages are two I’ve come across.

Like I said, s’good.

[ 02.10.2006, 08:14: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Lego Star Wars II = WIN
 
Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
 
Thanks for the recommendations. [Smile]

BR- What platform is Yakuza on?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
This weekend I have been mostly playing Need for Speed: Carbon.

The verdict: it’s alright, pretty entertaining although the drifting is pony. I give it 7 Hachis out of 10.
 
Posted by Cactus (Member # 866) on :
 
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Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
lol this is brilliant!
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Need for Speed: Carbon.

Is Carbon much of a step up from NFSU2?
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
This weekend I got fucked up on Defcon. I was almost in tears! I was N.America and I'd teamed up with S.America and Africa to get Europe, Asia and Russia. So I send some of my lads across the pacific to start nuking China and Japan, and meanwhile my entire atlantic fleet is wasted in a tag team from europe and russia. Then they all go sailing up past canada and start bombing me from up there, and right in the middle of that, my s.American allie broke out the treaty and started nuking both me and Africa. So I had like Asia, Russia, Europe and S.America all going for me, and I was duly destroyed. But I felt so angry and let down by s.america, just dropping out and attacking me in my hour of need.

I also finished Castlevania DS, got to the last case of Phoenix Wright 2, and spent Friday night mucking about on electroplankton, which is awesome.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Need for Speed: Carbon.

Is Carbon much of a step up from NFSU2?
It's kind of more of the same, but with all the rubbish bits cropped out. So you don't have to do all that gay stuff with putting shitty body kits on your car and suchlike, although the option's there if you have a taste for manlove. Gone however are pointless things like neonz and scissor doors etc.

The best thing about it are the canyon duels. Basically this is 'touge' format, which is how these sort of races are run for real in Japan. If you're not familiar with it, it goes liek so: both cars start at the top of the mountain road. One is the leader, the other the chaser. The chase car (you start off chasing) should try to get as close as possible to the lead car, and if possible overtake. If you overtake and stay there for ten seconds, the race is over and you are Winner. To make this work in a fair way, they've come up with a clever poitns system. As you're chasing, your points automatically go up. The rate at which your points go up is determined by how close you are to the lead car. If the lead car gets a certain distance from you, a timer starts and if you can't catch up within ten seconds then you are Loser. When you get to the finish, the positions are reversed and you start again from the top, only this time you're the lead car. As you're being chased, you points that you accumulated in the first run start counting down, again based on how close the chase car is to you. If you're in plus points when you get to the end of the second run, you are Winner.

Drag racing is gone, and that's a good thing.

Car line up is much better than NFSU2 and you don't have to spend ages driving around because you can jump automatically to races or safe houses (where you can customise your cars etc) and car lots. That's unless you're being chased by the cops who you have to outrun before you can do anything else. If you get busted too many times in one car, it's impounded.

So yeah, there's a fair bit of depth to the game but like the others, it's fairly easy and short, and become a bit repetative once you get about halfway through.

I wont mention the drifting becauseit's just shite. You can pretty much ignore it though as the drift races are fairly rare.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Thanks for that Ringo. Just for a point of comparison, what did you think of the drift mode in NFSU2?

Have you heard about the forthcoming WTCC game from SimBin, *Race? I imagine it should be a good deal more realistic than the TOCA series. Not sure if touring cars are your bag though...
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
The dori in NFSU was really simplistic but ultimately better than the drift in Carbon. The thing is, if you take a game like Gran Turismo 3, and what you’ve got there is a simulator, where the physics are designed to mimic real life. Because of this, you can do everything in Gran Turismo that you can in a real car, and the way the car behaves is pretty much true to life whether you be gripping corners at breakneck speeds, or holding the biggest angle around bends and using weight shifting techniques. This is because the physics are sophisticated. With the NFS games, the physics are much simpler, so they use different sets of physics for different types of race, so the way in which the car behaves in a sprint race is completely different to how it behaves in a drift race. This is where the problem comes from, because what they’re aiming for, rather than absolute realism, is the impression of realism where the idea is to give the general feel of what’s happening. This would work well enough if the game was focused specifically around that type of driving – a case in point would be the Colin McRae Rally series where the physics are unrealistic, but very giid at mimicking one specific type of driving.

The point I’m making here is that they’ve ballsed it up, presumably by making the assumption that a proper simulation of drifting would be hard, which means no fun. Instead you get this shockingly simplistic arcade handling that has absolutely nothing to do with real life. Steer into the corner, for instance, and the car starts to slide. Look carefully and you’ll see the front wheels automatically countersteering in the other direction; it’s impossible to spin the car. The danger is the frustration of not getting the line right and bumping the barrier. This adds an element of difficulty, but this makes it frustrating rather than rewarding to get it right.

The drifting in NFSU was similarly simple, but just that little bit more realistic, which meant that you could forgive the lack of realism for the fact it was reasonably fun. That said, there’s nothing fun about being beaten in a drift competition by a bloody Peugeot 206 – a car which in the real world can’t even drift at all because it’s basically an underpowered wrong wheel drive shopping trolley. There’s too much pandering to chavs and barryboys who don’t understand the skill involved in drifting and it’s frustrating as I’m partial to a little real life drifting myself, and don’t like things which make it look too easy, because it’s really not.

As for the other games, I really don’t know. I’m not a massive touring car fan and haven’t really liked any of the TOCA games since TOCA 2, so probably not really qualified to say. There is a driving simulator out for the PC which you can download, but I’ve forgotten what it’s called. It’s EXTREMELY realistic and difficult, and although it lacks real life cars, it’s probably the best challenge for anyone who wants a good driving simulator.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
Sorry I missed your question previously Amy, but Yakuza is on PS2. I've clocked it now. It was excellent. Imagine a Japanese GTA without the cars and cross it with Shenmue. Apparently there's already a sequel in the offing.

I got Fable: The Lost Chapters for cheap once I'd finished that. It was an alright sub-Zelda rpgish adventure, but had an annoying save bug. Clocked that too.

So back on my Career in Fifa 05, which is starting to get silly because the players are all old or simply made up. Starting to get a bit dull too.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
There is a driving simulator out for the PC which you can download, but I’ve forgotten what it’s called. It’s EXTREMELY realistic and difficult, and although it lacks real life cars, it’s probably the best challenge for anyone who wants a good driving simulator.

Is it *rFactor?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Nope, it's Live for Speed
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Blimey that Live for Speed looks outstanding - I might have to have a little go with that - you played it Ringo?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
A little bit. It’s really punishing for any little mistakes and damn hard to get to grips with but once you’ve got it nailed, every single corner is extremely rewarding. It’s almost impossible to use any powerful car with the keyboard though so you need a steering wheel and pedals to be anywhere near effective or competitive, otherwise you’ll just be wheelspinning and oversteering/understeering everywhere. The realism is absolutely outstanding.

I quite like the fact it’s not got real cars, in a way. Each car in the game has a specific purpose and completely unique handling properties. It’s all well and good have a Gran Turismoesque line-up of 700 odd cars but if half of the drive the same or are completely useless for most races, it’s pointless except for uber geeks (like me) who get a kick out of having obscure models in their garage. With Live for Speed it’s all about having the best driving abilities, not about having the most upgrades on your R34 GT-R or whatnot.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Just got Lego Star Wars II for xbox seems like an excellent fun game, especially on two player. Really simple control system. Nice little puzzles, funny cut scenes and the star wars soundtrack.

Also got motogp 2 for xbox, hopefully will be pretty good online.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
I got Lego Star wars for the PSP on Friday - Top Fun, II finished the A New Hope section in story mode over the weekend..
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Darryn.R:
I got Lego Star wars for the PSP on Friday - Top Fun, II finished the A New Hope section in story mode over the weekend..

Where from Mate? I think I am going a bit overkill on Tiger Woods now, so need something new to challenge me.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Schiphol, I stopped off on the way home Friday.

It's only just out here, I think final release was only Wednesday/Thursday last week, so in theory Bart Smit should have it too now..

I paid 49 Euro, webshop price was 39 Euro at Bart Smit, but what the hell, I wanted a game to play while feeling crap again at the weekend... I just can't shift this flu bug...
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Three options:



[Confused]

Also - does anyone have one of these:

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[ 14.11.2006, 04:52: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Also - does anyone have one of these:

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Think most people have them these days? They're pretty handy for arranging meeting up with your friends and stuff, and you can send someone a 'text message' which they'll get eventually even if they don't have their phone on them at the time. Reckon they'll catch on. I've got a Nokia one. It's OK.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
They're pretty handy for arranging meeting up with your friends and stuff, and you can send someone a 'text message' which they'll get eventually even if they don't have their phone on them at the time.

I think you're getting a bit mixed up here Thorn - it's a Walkman (for listening to music).
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Poor Thorn, he used to be on the cutting edge
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Oh right. I've got one of those too. Had it for about fifteen years now. Still works. Hard to find tapes for it, though. Cost abotu £20. You should get that.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
I have a Sony Walkman phone Misc, not that one but one very similar... What do you want to know ?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Three options:



Oooh - just found a fourth option:


But as it's a free gift and there are sure to be shortages, I doubt they'd supply it for bloody ages. I'm not sure I could handle such a long wait for a Wii...

*groane*
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I just need some validation Darryn. I need you to say:

"Misc - those Sony Ericsson phones are really chuffing great and you should stop phaffing around writing inane posts about phones and games consoles and just bloody well go ahead and buy one. Everyone's bored of you."

I also need to know how the sound quality compares to that of an iPod and how ridiculous it would be to use it for the Interloper backing track. I'd have to hope nobody phoned me during the gig, or the handsfree would cut in and broadcast the conversation to the moshing crowd...

[Cool]
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Sound can be a bit shitty, with the headphones supplied it was awful but a good pair of
Sennheisers sorted that out. Storage is fine, file transfer a little slow but simple and all round a decent phone/walkman combo.

If you did want to use it as a backing track you could as there is a úse as standalone walkman option available when you start the phone up.

[ 14.11.2006, 06:57: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Thank you Darryn.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I finally got hold of an Xbox copy of Star Wars Lego II, so I no longer have to scrounge goes off my 5 year old nephew, and Canis Canem Edit (formerly Bully) for the PS2 yesterday.

Didn't play much of Bully, but what I did looks reasonably promising in a cut down GTA/Black Mask's school days sort of a way.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Got the Star wars II lego thing - one question - what are the red floaty things that seem to lead to other places? How do you get through them?
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
I am liking this Star Wars II Lego game a lot - so far I just managed to unlock Han Solo and Chewie - its quite frustrating as some things are actually quite simple - getting into the Cantina bar I was flumoxed on, until I just thought to blast the damn anti-droid things and bingo, I'm in.

I still haven't worked out how to access these below grating studs, where you have the little floaty red things - I tried getting Ben to downward stab with the light sabre, but that didn't do any good, and its only blue twinkles you can use the force on - any ideas Darryn or anyone? Also Darryn we have to have a beer soon just so we can have a game of doubles (I think this is the first game we both have where we can use the wireless).
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Once you unlock more characters you can get to more levels of the stage you are playing, you need characters from other levels to complete the early levels... If you play the first level of A New Hope as Jedi in free play with the character set that unlocks you can open doors you couldn't open the first time you played it so you can get to what seem to be hidden sections on first play.

I've finished A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back and am now doing tem again in free play mode to unlock more secret levels..

Beer as soon as I can, I won't be about again this weekend though as I'm doing the whole Sint on a boat thing in Rotterdam with Beckett and then I have to go and pick Summer up..

2 player network option should be fun though..
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
To do stuff with the sparkly red things you need to be playing as one of the Sith. It denotes dark force powers.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Thanks Ringo - but aren't the Sith only in 1, 2 and 3, or have I not learned enough about the Star Wars story to know who is who (I'm playing the original trilogy - having not seen 4,5 and 6 - although I did see some of 4 but fell asleep, I am not entirely suer who the Sith are)
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
Thanks Ringo - but aren't the Sith only in 1, 2 and 3, or have I not learned enough about the Star Wars story to know who is who (I'm playing the original trilogy - having not seen 4,5 and 6 - although I did see some of 4 but fell asleep, I am not entirely suer who the Sith are)

The Sith in the Star Wars films are:


However, the word Sith was only invented for the prequels.

Sorry - did you say you haven't seen episodes 4-6?

[Eek!]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Also if you want to learn more about the expanded universe of Star Wars, you might find *this site interesting. It's all about Darth Vader's brother Chad who works as a Day Shift Manager at a grocery store.

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Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Wayne, other than the original 3 films in the game there are also mini games in the cantina where you fight Maul, Sidious and Vader so you can unlock the characters ready for free play..

It's through the door on the left of the cantina past the New Hope entrance..

Darth Maul is easy enough to beat, the others are harder..

You also unlock young Obi Wan and Qui Gone Gin (sp?) so you can use the force big stylee...
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Sorry Misc I haven't seen 1, 2 and 3 - I heard they were shit. I am still fuming that the box set of the original 4,5 and 6 have been butchered by some wanker with CGI *


* This hatred may be related to the one week I entered something totally fabbo in a b3ta competition which even board king Darryn said might win, and instead it was beaten by some crappo 'non-cgi star wars' gag that look like it was done by Steven Hawking in MS Paint.

See - funny:

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MS-Paint + Star wars = not funny.

[Mad] [Mad] [Mad]
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
Hmmm, I suspect a confusion in Waynster's original post regarding eps 4-6.

Get in there Misc.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Perhaps a woo or a yay might help to calm your hatred of Star Wars? If so:


 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
Waynster you are right about 1-3, calling them shit would be generous, but you can now get the original Star Wars films in unadulterated non-CGI abomination form, though not in a boxed set as far as I know.

Bully continues to be good.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boy Racer:
you can now get the original Star Wars films in unadulterated non-CGI abomination form, though not in a boxed set as far as I know.

No - the untouched Original Trilogy films are only available as bonus discs when bought with individual ***Limited Edition DVDs of the CGI versions. Also they're not great quality, ripped as they are from an early 1990s Laserdisc version - and videophiles are complaining because they're *non-anamorphic, and stereo as opposed to surround.

[ 15.11.2006, 10:32: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
Oh dear. That sucks yet again.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Yeah - you're probably better off waiting for the fully CGI remake (Star Wars 30th Anniversary Deluxe Edition) out next May on BluRay. It will only be available in a box set of all six films and will apparently retail for $399. A full commentary from Jake 'Lil Ani' Loyd and Ahmed 'Jar Jar' Best will be included and is compulsory for the first five viewings. Using wireless technology, the discs will 'call home' to Lucasfilm every time you insert them to download the latest updates, which must be installed before you can watch the films. The costs for these MoviePatches® will be charged to your Hyperspace Interactive™ card.

[ 15.11.2006, 11:14: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Cactus (Member # 866) on :
 
Agreed 1 and 2 were abysmal but I believe episode 3 was fantastic. It was definitely on a par with New Hope and not far off Empire Strikes Back. (obviously it kicked ass of Return of the Jedi but everyone, even the most delusional trilogy fan knows that was a poor film).

I think episodes 6-9 could be interesting when Luke turns to the dark side, although I hope Lucas doesn't make them.
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cactus:
I believe episode 3 was fantastic.

You mean apart from the hammy acting, laughable plot and utter predictability? I thought it was an utter pile of shit personally, possibly even worse than the other two. Hayden Christensen really is an unbelievably bad actor. Even General Grievous was distinctly underwhelming after the amount of hype there was about him.
 
Posted by Cactus (Member # 866) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Physic:
You mean apart from the hammy acting, laughable plot and utter predictability?

Surely exactly the same criticisms could be used of "A New Hope"?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
There won't be any Episodes 7-9 as Lucas' original plans for these films were incorporated into ESB and RotJ. However, the next couple of years will see two Star Wars TV programmes. *One will be fully CG, 3D animated (think Final Fantasy Advent Children) and set in the Clone Wars era. The *second will be live action, set between Revenge of the Sith (III) and A New Hope (IV), and is rumoured to run to over 100 episodes. Apparently it will focus on new characters who didn't appear in the films, however I'm sure some old favourites will put in an appearance. Rumour has it that the storyline will be centred around the early days of the rebellion and the Empire's hunt for any Jedi that survived the purge. Also, Lucas will not be as involved as he was with the films, so there is hope.

As this is a gaming thread, I should probably link you to *this concept footage of the forthcoming next generation Star Wars game which looks rather tasty.

Lots of love,
Misc
TMO's Lead Star Wars Correspondent since 2004.

[ 16.11.2006, 04:53: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cactus:
Surely exactly the same criticisms could be used of "A New Hope"?

Absolutely, my point was that ROTS is a load of toss, not that the other two were any good. Just to be clear, I thought all three were shit, although 1 did have Jar Jar Binks I suppose which pretty much makes it unsurpassable for pure shitness.

ETA - hang on, New Hope is what they're calling the original Star Wars now isn't it.. in which case yes it had some dubious acting, but in comparison to ROTS it was an acting masterclass imo.

[ 16.11.2006, 07:43: Message edited by: Physic ]
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
For clarification:

Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace (1999)
Star Wars Episode 2: Attack of the Clones (2002)
Star Wars Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith (2005)
Star Wars Episode 4: A New Hope (1977)
Star Wars Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
Star Wars Episode 6: Return of the Jedi (1983)
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cactus:
Surely exactly the same criticisms could be used of "A New Hope"?

Please don't wheel this argument out again. It's bollocks.

Clarification. No, fucking NO. How can you compare James Earl Jones' voiceover as Vader and Alec Guinness as Old Ben versus Hayden 'plank of emotion' Christensen and Ewan 'School m'aam' McGregor. So C3P0 was a bit campy huh? At least they blasted him into pieces in part 2 for crimes against heteromanity, but Jar Jar Binks even got to be in another film as long as the animators promised to CGI his mouth shut. God. Just ......don't even try.

[ 16.11.2006, 08:14: Message edited by: New Way Of Decay ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Physic:
Absolutely, my point was that ROTS is a load of toss, not that the other two were any good. Just to be clear, I thought all three were shit, although 1 did have Jar Jar Binks I suppose which pretty much makes it unsurpassable for pure shitness.

Sadly Binks is in Episodes II and III as well, albeit in a much reduced role, after complaints from fans.

quote:
Originally posted by Physic:
ETA - hang on, New Hope is what they're calling the original Star Wars now isn't it.

It's been called Star Wars Episode IV - A New Hope for the last 25 years. It was only the 1977 theatrical version that simply called it Star Wars. And I refuse to believe that you're old enough to remember that.

quote:
Originally posted by Physic:
in which case yes it had some dubious acting, but in comparison to ROTS it was an acting masterclass imo.

IANAFC, but I thought Ewan McGregor (Obi Wan) and Ian McDiarmid (Palpatine) had some good moments in RotS. And Hayden Christensen was a fuck of a lot better in RotS that he was in AotC.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
I thought... Ewan McGregor.... good ....

[Mad] You are not far wrong, but I still stand by my mad faece for the 'Hello there..' line alone. Something I missed until you pointed it out.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Ep 1 - the only good bit, the doors open and Darth Maul is there - "we'll handle this" acts the oirish one.
Ep 2 - the only good bit, none of it.
Ep 3 - stupid terrible film
Ep 4 - Clunky and fun, Han the best thing (especially when he pats Chewy on the head like a dog for no good reason)
Ep 5 - the only one actually made with a real director and acting involved - Lando is quality, a non-NZ, non-talkative Bobba Fett and the Lizard thing, Darth Vader is pure evil in it.
Ep 6 - Like some spastic muppet show version of the first film, someone was taking the piss with this one. All pretense of 'acting' has vanished by this point, never to return.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
[Mad] You are not far wrong, but I still stand by my mad faece for the 'Hello there..' line alone. Something I missed until you pointed it out.

That's more down to Lucas' script though really. He was a little too intent on peppering the PT with OT references. Mindless philosophers, sorry fans, mistakenly praise this as "foreshadowing" but in reality it's nothing more than repetition.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Benny the Ball:
the Lizard thing

Bossk?
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
yeah, that thing was, to use the vernacular, having it.
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
It's been called Star Wars Episode IV - A New Hope for the last 25 years. It was only the 1977 theatrical version that simply called it Star Wars. And I refuse to believe that you're old enough to remember that.

The rolling text intro in the theatrical version also calls it Episode IV: A New Hope.

(and I saw it in the cinema on its original release - it was my elder bro's 10th b-day treat and I got to go as well otherwise I'd have had a screaming tantrum - in return I made him come and see Grease with me)
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
*

quote:
When originally released in 1977, the film was released simply as Star Wars, both on promotional material and during the opening crawl of the film itself. For this reason, this film, more often than its sequels, is often referred to as Star Wars, instead of by the Episode IV number or the subtitle A New Hope. In 1980, the sequel, Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back, was released with the episode number and subtitle in the opening crawl. In a re-released version a year later, Episode IV: A New Hope was added above the original opening crawl.

 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by H1ppychick:
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
It's been called Star Wars Episode IV - A New Hope for the last 25 years. It was only the 1977 theatrical version that simply called it Star Wars. And I refuse to believe that you're old enough to remember that.

The rolling text intro in the theatrical version also calls it Episode IV: A New Hope.

(and I saw it in the cinema on its original release - it was my elder bro's 10th b-day treat and I got to go as well otherwise I'd have had a screaming tantrum - in return I made him come and see Grease with me)

You Lie H1ppy - you didn't see the original print!
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
Oh, OK. I can't remember ever having seen it without that title on the text scrawl so it must have been changed relatively quickly.

ETA what I mean is that I did see the original print but I was only little at the time and I've seen it so many times since that the memory of the original viewing is more of the event of going to the cinema (which was quite an unusual treat in those days) rather than of the film content.

[ 16.11.2006, 09:05: Message edited by: H1ppychick ]
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
 -
Bossk-eyed and having it, 1977
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Do you see, DO YOU SEE how failable the human memory is! How manipulable the mind is! Do you see?

God I'm bored...

ETA - almost as good as 'V'

[ 16.11.2006, 09:12: Message edited by: Benny the Ball ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
IG-88 could kick Bossk's scaly green ass.

 -
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Imagine the size of the table those bounty hunters would require to have an arm wrestle. They could give Mr Tickle a run for his money, that's for sure.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Zuckass was the worst one though, wasn't he? Him and the bloke with the towel around his head.

And as for IG-88 vs Bossk - Bossk hunted Wookies in his spare time, and Wookies are known to rip the arms out of people who beat them in shitchess (and probably robots too).
 
Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
 -
Bossk-eyed and having it, 1977

I'm guessing it had been quite a long day in SFX and makeup when they finally said "that'll do" about this godforsaken costume.
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
]Sadly Binks is in Episodes II and III as well, albeit in a much reduced role, after complaints from fans.

Fair point, he was unobtrusive in 2 and 3 though, whereas his appearance in 1 is pretty much a cinematic equivilant of Lucas turning round and defaecating on the audience.

quote:
It's been called Star Wars Episode IV - A New Hope for the last 25 years. It was only the 1977 theatrical version that simply called it Star Wars. And I refuse to believe that you're old enough to remember that.
Fair enough, it may say that on the scrolling text at the start, but until this most recent trio came out I'd never once seen it referred to as 'A New Hope', it was always just 'Star Wars'.

quote:
Hayden Christensen was a fuck of a lot better in RotS that he was in AotC.
Jesus dude, that's like saying that Graham Norton is less of a **** than Eamonn Holmes, at the end of the day they're both still *****. I'll give you McGregor and Diarmind though, grudgingly [Wink] .
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I read an EU book about IG-88 once. It was pretty cool if a little derivative. His creator decided the IG droids were too intelligent so he ordered their destruction, but 88 kicked his ass of course...

However I went off the EU when I read something about a post-RotJ "resurrected Emperor" and a clone of Luke Skywalker named "Luuke Skywalker" fgfs...

[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
actually, re IG-88 vs Bossk, I've just read that something or other cemented "his position as the second-best bounty hunter in the galaxy (after Boba Fett)."

So there you go.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
The internet was built for arguing about star wars.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Bobba Fett's dad is teh gay! etc

Data could totally whip IG-88's skinny ass!

[ 16.11.2006, 09:37: Message edited by: Benny the Ball ]
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Benny the Ball:
actually, re IG-88 vs Bossk, I've just read that something or other cemented "his position as the second-best bounty hunter in the galaxy (after Boba Fett)."

How exactly do they establish this? Is there some kind of official audit, like the Times Best 100 Companies to work for? How official is it? Is there a Tuesday in November where all the bounty hunters rush out to the newsagents to see how they placed?
 
Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
Fucking lol. (spacedollars)

[ 16.11.2006, 09:40: Message edited by: Dedalus ]
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Wasn't Jango Fett a Kiwi or a saffer or one of those other kind of genetic fruitloops?
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
It's probably more like a world standings in football system - if you win x amount of jobs then you move up the table. I'm a bit suspect of it all myself - I think Bobba Fett flatters to deceive, like Brazil, and suspect that IG-88 is more like a Mexico or someone - taking jobs in the Star Wars Universe equivalent of the CONCACAFederation

ETA - he was a KIWI, like most of the survivors of the Matrix AI scorched sky thing that now live and rave in caves

[ 16.11.2006, 09:41: Message edited by: Benny the Ball ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I rekcon Jango could have kicked Boba's arse.

:controversialol:
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
yeah - but only at Jenga!
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
only at Scrabble.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Scrabblol!!!!
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Jango got killed by Samuel L. Motherfuckin' Jackson. Boba got killed by a blind man who was shouting his name.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I don't think I ever mentioned this but my sister and her boo built a lifesized R2D2. She use to take it for walks around the park but said she stopped because she looked like a bit of a paedophile with a giant robotic bleeping bar of candy. That and they had a domestic and she karate chopped R2's head so hard it looked like a damaged ping pong ball. I think there are some photos online. Let me look.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Please God...
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
What? Please god let it be true?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Just find the fucking photos, okay? [Mad]
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I can't google them, but I'm sure they still have some of them. Shall I ask her to bring some with her on the weekend to scan. I didn't think you'd be interested.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Oh forget it... [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Fine. FINE!
 
Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
This spat's got Heat written all over it.
[Frown]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dedalus:
This spat's got Heat written all over it.
[Frown]

 -
 
Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
Sad misc:

 -


Happy misc:

 -
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
pwned!

excellent.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
 -
Angry Misc.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
so work got an xbox360 and I took it home for the weekend. I played Project Gotham Racing 3 for most of Saturday, and it is shiny. Hard (on hard level), but nice looking, even on my lo-def TV. Plugged it into my monitor and that made it even shinier. The DVD drive on the XBox is noisy as fuck though. Got Gears of War on my desk as I type, but won't get to play it until wednesday. Blue Man Group tonight. An 'unmissable' show, sadly.

[ 27.11.2006, 05:36: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Also played around with an eyetoy and Play3 on the PS2. Quite fun, and very tiring.
 
Posted by Bad Tmo Boy (Member # 909) on :
 
I have been playing medieval 2 on my PC for a while, enjoying it very much but taking my sweet time, do any of you folks play this? or any turn based stratagy games?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
sorry Tom, I was just locking up. The place is deserted. Let's go across the road for a pint.
 
Posted by Bad Tmo Boy (Member # 909) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by not...:
Are americans more racist and homophobic than UK? because that's the impression I get. I mean, amongst the young it seems to be normal to call someone a nigger or a faggot, on xbox live anyhow. UK kids don't seem to do this.

They are just fucked up little fat ***** who dont have anything good in their lives at all, (they are stuck in the US dont forget) they havent ever seen their penis's because their bellies expanded before their eyes even opened and their mothers installed an Xbox with HALO and Live connection inside their wombs so their little fat ***** could be fine upstanding murderous citizens of the most fucked country on the face of the earth. Where they come from 'Babies First Christmas' gifts come in the form of sniper rifles, suppressed MP5's or tec 9 uzi's with 50 round clips. Just because you dont play the game for 23 and a half hours a day and have a life, or at least something similar, they get all personal, fuck em.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bad Tmo Boy:
They are just fucked up little fat ***** who dont have anything good in their lives at all, (they are stuck in the US dont forget) they havent ever seen their penis's because their bellies expanded before their eyes even opened and their mothers installed an Xbox with HALO and Live connection inside their wombs so their little fat ***** could be fine upstanding murderous citizens of the most fucked country on the face of the earth. Where they come from 'Babies First Christmas' gifts come in the form of sniper rifles, suppressed MP5's or tec 9 uzi's with 50 round clips. Just because you dont play the game for 23 and a half hours a day and have a life, or at least something similar, they get all personal, fuck em.

Wow. It's like you know each and every one of us. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by rooster (Member # 738) on :
 
thank you ralph.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bad Tmo Boy:
quote:
Originally posted by not...:
Are americans more racist and homophobic than UK? because that's the impression I get. I mean, amongst the young it seems to be normal to call someone a nigger or a faggot, on xbox live anyhow. UK kids don't seem to do this.

They are just fucked up little fat ***** who dont have anything good in their lives at all, (they are stuck in the US dont forget) they havent ever seen their penis's because their bellies expanded before their eyes even opened and their mothers installed an Xbox with HALO and Live connection inside their wombs so their little fat ***** could be fine upstanding murderous citizens of the most fucked country on the face of the earth. Where they come from 'Babies First Christmas' gifts come in the form of sniper rifles, suppressed MP5's or tec 9 uzi's with 50 round clips. Just because you dont play the game for 23 and a half hours a day and have a life, or at least something similar, they get all personal, fuck em.
I am going to print this out so I can give a "quick witted" response to any abuse.

Also the other day, based on my sniper skills an American told me, in a very serious tone of voice that I'd be useless in Iraq. Thank god for those Halo2 kids they're gonna grow up and save the world with their mad sniper sk11lz.
 
Posted by Bad Tmo Boy (Member # 909) on :
 
It was not supposed to offend Americans generally though i understand it could, and I dont care much either way. It was a reflection of the way it makes me feel to have some racist little fucking hick c*nt to start racially abusing me after spending £40 for the privelage of accessing xbox live, but hey if you want to defend the young people of your country not doing a whole lot other than 'Blasting on fools' virtually and otherwise then be my guest but dont get all upset when people express the opinion that its fucked up. [Roll Eyes]

[ 27.11.2006, 09:16: Message edited by: Bad Tmo Boy ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I've started posting on the gamespot forums. Only really started today, and have been moderated twice, and sent this:

quote:

I edited 'wanking' out of your forum post. By rights I should probably have deleted the entire post for offensive language (the TOS is rather strict on such matters), but felt you were making a good enough point that that would have been silly.


 
Posted by Bad Tmo Boy (Member # 909) on :
 
Wankers
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I suppose it's no worse than what darryn did after I posted up "The cuntfucking poem"

[ 27.11.2006, 10:09: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
What did he do?
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
I fucked his çunt - hard
 
Posted by Bad Tmo Boy (Member # 909) on :
 
What did Darryn do?
 
Posted by Bad Tmo Boy (Member # 909) on :
 
Who'scunt?
 
Posted by Bad Tmo Boy (Member # 909) on :
 
He cuntfucked mycunt hard when he threatened to ban me for taking the piss out of South Africans, but I think that might be something to do with much Dutch ancestry in South Africa, or maybe I was a bit close to the racism bone? I dont know I wil try not to do it again, please disregard my rant at racist american kids who play halo 2 online. [Razz]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Been playing a bit of Gears of War recently, and I'm very impressed. I've never played anything like it in terms of capturing the frantic visuals and gameplay of comabat. And it's got awesome chainsaw action. Thorn was correct, as usual.

[ 01.12.2006, 05:55: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Does anybody apart from me have a gamespot profile / blog?
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
nah. I read yours though. I liked it.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
God it's really flatlining in here this week. What's gamespot like, are the people in it chatty?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
they're idiots, mostly.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
but are they chatty?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
According to gamespot Wii versions of NFSCarbon and the new Splinter Cell are shit. Elebits looks good, but it's not out til March.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
but are they chatty?

not really.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
not like me, Mr. Chatty.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
yep
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I love to chat.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
uh huh
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yeah. I also like dating. And flirting by text. Most of all, I like receiving sexy video clips of babes from all around the country direct to my phone. I wish there was some kind of service available for me.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
who doesn't love sexy babes? Only gaylords.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
true.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
you like babes, ralph?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
love 'em, benway. love 'em.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
I like babes, and I also like chat, although I don't like chatty babes. *worried face*
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Man it's some kind of quiet round here today, babe lovers.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
alright, jonesy999?
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Big nuts.

ETA: *nods*

[ 05.12.2006, 10:39: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
I'm not convinced that ralph actually likes babes. Shall I punch him?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm meeting my parents and my grandmother and my auntie in a couple of hours. Any messages you want me to pass on?

[ 05.12.2006, 10:41: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
No. You're not allowed to punch people who don't like babes anymore - despite your thread in S and R, Not. Times are changing.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I'm meeting my parents and my grandmother and my auntie in a couple of hours. Any messages you want me to pass on?

Are they babes?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
not really. Not at all.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Political correctness gone mad.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I like babes! I've been married twice! I don't think I like the accusations. If there's anyone here that doesn't like babes it's benway. He's single.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I'm meeting my parents and my grandmother and my auntie in a couple of hours. Any messages you want me to pass on?

Actually, that's actually quite massive actually. Isn't it Benway? When was the last time you saw all these Welshatives?
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
I've been married twice!

Sounds like ralph might like babes too much.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I do. I really do.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
I'd high five you ralph but I'd probably get babe juice all over my paws.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
I like babes! I've been married twice! I don't think I like the accusations. If there's anyone here that doesn't like babes it's benway. He's single.

Actually you're right ralph my old mate. I don't think Benway actually likes babes. I've often noticed a misogynistic theme in many of his posts.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jonesy999:
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I'm meeting my parents and my grandmother and my auntie in a couple of hours. Any messages you want me to pass on?

Actually, that's actually quite massive actually. Isn't it Benway? When was the last time you saw all these Welshatives?
I saw them in Greenwich in the summer. You're right in that I make no effort ever to see any members of my family, but if they turn up in the Chandos on a tuesday night, there's no excuse.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by not...:
I've often noticed a misogynistic theme in many of his posts.

Yeah. I'm the misogynist.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
I wasn't trying to suggest you make no effort to see your family. I was thinking about a conversation we had about you going up to Wales to visit your Grandma and Auntie. I didn't think you'd seen them in years.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Oh benway...you haven't visited your granny in years?

punches benway in the face
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
no, yes, I mean, no. Yes. It's true though, I don't make any effort, and I did want to go to Wales, but it would involve leaving London, and I'm not okay with that right now.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Yeah, Christmas in the smoke is irresistible. I understand.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm lazy.

and I'm babe crazy.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Poor Granny. I visit mine at least once a year and they're both dead.

kicks benway for all granny's everywhere
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
I've never visited the grave of either of my Grandmas. I used to visit the grave of my best friend on a regular basis but, well, it's a long way away and I just never get round to it anymore. [Frown]

[ 05.12.2006, 11:00: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Bignuts toasting on an electric fire
ralph bear punching at your nose
dubious threads being posted by a ****
And tramps all frozen in the snow

 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
*sighs*
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
my Granny is alright. Pretty lively.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
I haven't seen one nan's grave, and haven't been by one in years - but have just moved close to one and have promised my mum that me and her will go and see the other one soon
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
quote:
Not
Bignuts toasting on an electric fire
ralph bear punching at your nose
dubious threads being posted by a ****
And tramps all frozen in the snow


I dig carols.

[ 05.12.2006, 11:13: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Me too. I'm going caroling at some point this month.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
One of my grandmothers was cremated. I don't know where any of the others are buried. They're definitely all dead though.

[Frown]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
carols are bullshit.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Trouble is that one doesn't seem to scan after the first verse.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
I'm going caroling at some point this month.

I bet Carol is a babe.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
I dig Sophies, I dig Sallys, I dig all kinds of babes. However they spell it.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Grrr. TMO going down and Misc Files ruins my crap joke.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
I'm worried about ralph's caroling. Don't forget, he loves babes too much. And he's a sex addict.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
At least he's not a child molester (afaik).
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
how many grans do you have, misc? are you granularly-overprovided?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jonesy999:
I'm worried about ralph's caroling. Don't forget, he loves babes too much. And he's a sex addict.

It'll be fine. It's part of a homeschooling thing my family belongs to. My wife will be there. She'll keep me in line.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
At least he's not a child molester (afaik).

Yeah. Or Hitler.

[ 05.12.2006, 11:18: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
which wife is this, ralph?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by H1ppychick:
which wife is this, ralph?

Number two.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Careful Hippy. Babes beware.
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
now you see there ralph, you're just not getting the principle of the comedy double-hander. one person is the straight man, the other one is the funny man. i was relying on you to bring with the funnies, and instead of which we're both completely straight.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
She's already been sucked in.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I'm always the straight one. You should know that by now.
 
Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by H1ppychick:
we're both completely straight.

Ralph isn't. Both his wives are beards.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jonesy999:
Careful Hippy. Babes beware.

Is hippy a babe? I don't recall...
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Oh man, it's like Michael Douglas all over again.
 
Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
H1ppy is a total babe.

Babe-a-licious, one might say. If one were so disposed.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
lolol
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
(cheers, stephen. no, really, thanks. [Frown] )
 
Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
I think he was loling at Jonesy999, not me.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dedalus:
H1ppy is a total babe.

Babe-a-licious, one might say. If one were so disposed.

And you know this how?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
no, I wasn't laughing-out-loud at you being a babe, I was laughing-out-loud at the reference to the michael douglas debacle! Or...Were you not saying that?
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
I wish Kevin Bacon were here. He could totally tell the fuck out the day he locked Michael Douglas in a cellar at Skywalker ranch and had to recruit Sting to save Ralph Douglas from the gush.
 
Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
Some things you just know, ralph. This is one of those things.
 
Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
Michael Douglas's cock sets off metal detectors in airports. And there is no metal in it. [Eek!]
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
faux wounded pride is an excellent derailer of comedy flow. dammit.

bring home the bacon, jonesy!
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
this place, tmo, is basically like babe heaven.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I know, Dedalus. I was just calling your bluff in hopes that you had photographic evidence.

[ 05.12.2006, 11:30: Message edited by: ralph ]
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
quote:
Big Nutes
this place, tmo, is basically like babe heaven.


Yeah, the MOgoggles make us all sexy as the fuck.

[ 05.12.2006, 11:31: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
So you're not only someone who loves the babes too much, ralph, you're also into pr0n.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by H1ppychick:

bring home the bacon, jonesy!

Would that I could, Hippy.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dedalus:
So you're not only someone who loves the babes too much, ralph, you're also into pr0n.

Provided it's tasteful.

[ 05.12.2006, 11:34: Message edited by: ralph ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Anyone gonna be in Swindon on Thursday?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I like normal babes with real curves, not stick insect babes who look like they'd snap if u had sex with them!!111!!! I LUV U KELLY BROOK!!!! [Smile]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I like normal babes with real curves, not stick insect babes who look like they'd snap if u had sex with them!!111!!! I LUV U KELLY BROOK!!!! [Smile]

ME TOO!!!! Yeah1! Real women!!!!! WOOO!!!111!!
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I don't even know if I'm being sarcastic any more.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Are you saying you might not like real women? Am I all alone in this regard? Am I the last man on the planet who likes a woman with some meat on her bones?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I don't know what I'm saying.
 
Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Anyone gonna be in Swindon on Thursday?

About 157,000 people, according to my sources.
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
i think i like Dedalus. Do you have meat on your bones, Dedalus?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I'm still on the fence regarding Dedalus. Meat or no meat.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I think I was mocking the phrase 'real women', as if slim women are robots or aliens. The way it's used to make suggestions about character, you know, that there's something more earthy and genuine about fatter chicks, and deriding slim women for being false. The phrase is therefore maintaining the status quo, that the size and shape of the female body is a political battleground, rather than refuting it, as the phrase seemingly purports to do by employing the word 'real'.

[ 05.12.2006, 11:50: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by H1ppychick:
i think i like Dedalus. Do you have meat on your bones, Dedalus?

Not enough, by all accounts.

[eta full stop]

[ 05.12.2006, 11:52: Message edited by: Dedalus ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I still think you're kovacs. Or IJ.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I think he's benway.
 
Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
*Makes \/\/ sign with index fingers and thumbs to Jimmy Big Nuts*

[ 05.12.2006, 11:59: Message edited by: Dedalus ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dedalus:
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Anyone gonna be in Swindon on Thursday?

About 157,000 people, according to my sources.
Man, this gig is gonna be AWESOME then! Also - NWoD is gonna dress up in ladies' clothes...
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I think I was mocking the phrase 'real women', as if slim women are robots or aliens. The way it's used to make suggestions about character, you know, that there's something more earthy and genuine about fatter chicks, and deriding slim women for being false. The phrase is therefore maintaining the status quo, that the size and shape of the female body is a political battleground, rather than refuting it, as the phrase seemingly purports to do by employing the word 'real'.

I dunno... I think you're confusing images of women with actual living human women here. 'Real women' is a term used by the media to differentiate the majority of UK females who are size 16plus - whose images do not appear in magazines - with the images of slender females that appear in our newspapers and magazines. It's not suggesting that any actual women who are size 10 and under are any less human / interesting / characterful than those who are larger. It *is* suggesting that the images of slender women in the magazines are 'unreal' or fake, because, well, they quite often are.
 
Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
That's gonna be some show.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Also - NWoD is gonna dress up in ladies' clothes...

Seriously? Will pics be posted on the website-that-I-should-not-mention? Please?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by London:
]I dunno...

Well I do, so leave it.
 
Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
Let it go, ralph. Let it go.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I can't, kovacs. I can't. [Frown]

[ 05.12.2006, 12:06: Message edited by: ralph ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
Will pics be posted on the website-that-I-should-not-mention? Please?

Do you think NWoD is a babe, ralph?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
christ

[ 05.12.2006, 12:13: Message edited by: ralph ]
 
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
Will pics be posted on the website-that-I-should-not-mention? Please?

Which one, beardedbabes.com?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
*sigh* No.

Did you get any of that snow yesterday or today, froop? It snowed here a bit this morning. I love snow. Not as much as sexy babes, but still.

[ 05.12.2006, 12:40: Message edited by: ralph ]
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
quote:
Originally posted by London:
]I dunno...

Well I do, so leave it.
[Mad]

I'll kick your ass tomorrow.
 
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
Didn't snow at all at the homestead, but I did run into a little of it as I was on my way to work yesterday morning. Which of course resulted in the typical reaction of OHMYGODITSSNOWING-WEREALLGOINGTODIE-MUSTSLAMONBRAKESANDCUTPEOPLEOFFATRANDOM!!!11!!!
except expressed in real life and not just through all-caps.
 
Posted by rooster (Member # 738) on :
 
It's snowing right now.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I love snow. It's what New England is all about. Snow. And high taxes. Tax money that never seems to find it's way to western Massachusetts. Oh no...it all goes east, to the important projects like the big dig, while western Massachusetts is completely forgotten. [Frown]

[ 05.12.2006, 14:53: Message edited by: ralph ]
 
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
I never quite understood that argument. Sure, a lot of money is spent in the urban areas of the state, which in the case of Massachusetts are mostly in the eastern part of the state, but those are the same areas which generate most of the tax revenues for the state. So isn't that a wash? Money being collected and reinvested into the areas which generate it?

Unless you favor having the rural areas subsidised by the urban areas, in which case the "you never bring me tax dollars" argument makes a bit more sense?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Sorry. Pay no attention to me. I was talking to a former boss of mine earlier today. He lives in Brookline. He asked me how New York was treating me. I asked him what he meant, and he said that anyone who lives west of 495 lives in New York. I don't want your tax money. If they were to pour money into my area, more people might move there and that would just suck.
 
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
Ah, the "westa woostah" mentality - i.e, that anything west of Worcester is beyond the ends of the earth. Boston is so cute when it's provincial.
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
WHAT are you TALKING ABOUT? Nobody cares about America, dudes!!!!
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
i do! but not about new england parochialism
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
ooh i might read something by Updike next
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
I read half of Owen Meany then mislaid it and never finished it. What I can remember was good, though.
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
Not New England, but The Coup is stunningly good.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by H1ppychick:
I read half of Owen Meany then mislaid it and never finished it. What I can remember was good, though.

There should be more book reviews like this.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Oh we're all in what are people playing at the moment? now, are we? Games is the new Life, I've been saying this for a while.

[ 06.12.2006, 05:15: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
people who actually play games must be getting moderately feverish about the impending Wii by now. I am. I'm also expecting delivery of this:

 -

I loved the first one on the DS, so I'm excited about that. Also! Final Fantasy III is now out on the DS. I'm looking to get that aysap.

I downloaded HL2: Episode 1 at the weekend (from Steam - I'll about being legit) but my PC couldn't really cope, bless it. So that's something else I'll need to buy soon.

[ 06.12.2006, 05:36: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Wii should be here Friday. After an initial exploratory play I'll have to box it up and stash it away, though. It's for the Masketeers' Xmas.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I dunno how feverish I am about Wii at present. I'm certainly lookin forward to it, but I'm still playing through Star Wars Lego II at the moment trying to collect/open everything (as is it's nature) and I've barely touched the very good Bully.

I'm working on this being a good thing though as what with Okami coming out in January, it means I shouldn't get carried away with Wii purchases and can comfortably hang back for some of the better post release titles.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
get out.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I'm still getting it and Zelda Friday mind.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
better.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
I've got mine ordered with Zelda for delivery Friday, but are there any other must haves coming out at launch?

Red Steel seems to be getting pretty poor reviews, excitetruck looks alright but I'm not a massive fan of driving games.

It's really going to kick off in March isn't it? That's when everything amazing is coming out on it?

Elebits is looking fun as BM mentioned earlier but that's not out until Q1 2007 apparently. Have you seen this domino type video of it?
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
Oh! Oh! I actually have a proper Games question and everything. I'd start a new thread but for some reason I am scared of starting new threads these days. I get ever more anxious with age. I am now officially scared of heights, lifts, illness, my dog getting hurt and possibly mushrooms. I'm undecided on the mushrooms.

Anyway. My father-in-law spends most of his time at work playing PS2 games. I want to buy him a simple, basic-ish driving game (cars or bikes, general like racing and crashing) for Christmas. And a steering wheel controller effort. Which game and wheel should I buy? Please tell me.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SilverGinger5:
are there any other must haves coming out at launch?

I'm expecting great things of the Raving Rabbids. Picking up zombie rabbits by the ears, whirling them overhead and hurling them over the horizon... Cor!
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Cheers BM. Had a look at it and it looks fun.

Sorry Louche, I can't help you with that as Sony are evil and therefore I don't own anything by them or read anything about them apart from the news about their imminent demise.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Louche:
My father-in-law spends most of his time at work playing PS2 games. I want to buy him a simple, basic-ish driving game (cars or bikes, general like racing and crashing) for Christmas. And a steering wheel controller effort. Which game and wheel should I buy? Please tell me.

What is he? A high court judge?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
What is he? A high court judge?

lol. I was going to guess convicted felon.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
Security guard surely.

I was waiting for Ringo to post about the racing game and wheel.

In his absence though I'd have thought one of the Gran Turismo games, Toca, or perhaps a Colin McRae would be alright.

I've no idea about wheels as I've never used them.

[ 06.12.2006, 07:40: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
If you're buying a wheel, look for the Logitech brand. There's a model for PS2 called the *Driving Force EX, which boasts Force Feedback and costs £39.99 at GAME. If you buy it in store with 'any other item' you can get it for £29.99, so you should be able to pick up a driving game to go with it. I agree with BR's game suggestions - Gran Turismo is legendary, TOCA Race Driver 3 is a fun, all round driving game (everything from Formula 1 through lawn mowers to Monster Trucks), and CMR would be good if he likes rallying.

[ 06.12.2006, 07:46: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by missgolightly (Member # 34) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boy Racer:
I'm still playing through Star Wars Lego II at the moment trying to collect/open everything (as is it's nature)

Just wanted to say I love this game! Best hungover game ever.

Sorry, just the first time I've ever had something to say in Games, so thought I'd make the most of it.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
maybe he's a pS2 developer, in which case, might be a bit of a busman's holiday for him.
 
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by London:
WHAT are you TALKING ABOUT? Nobody cares about America, dudes!!!!

I know :sob:

quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
Oh we're all in what are people playing at the moment? now, are we? Games is the new Life, I've been saying this for a while.

I'd try to get back on topic, except the only 'game' I've spent time with is SecondLife, which isn't really a game now is it.

That's not 100% fact, actually. I've been enjoying Flight Simulator X quite a bit more since I loaded in the Harrier and have experimented a bit more with multiplayer play. (Though again- simulator vs. game?)

Rooster is very hot on the idea that we get a Wii. I'm a little hesitant, but that could be simply because the last gaming console I owned or played with any regularity bore the label "colecovision".

(nb. see? i can be on topic on occasion)
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
Cheers guys, terribly useful and informative of you. Logitec and Gran Turismo from Game looking like a good bet. Thanks muchly.

My father-in-law drives trailers. When a certain premiere north west based soap does location stuff, he drives the trailers out, then sits in them playing PS2 whilst the stars of previously mentioned premiere north west based soap sit about eating sandwiches between takes. Terribly exciting stuff.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
fans of paying import duty will be pleased to hear that I just had to lay out £20 on that castlevania gear. Lucky!
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
fans of hearing me bang on about shit that nobody cares about will be pleased to hear that I opened up the Castlevania thing this morning, and it's gorgeous. I'm not normally a sucker for bits of marketing junk, but this feels....special. I think I'll be playing this game until I get Zelda for the Wii.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
Only really played on Friday evening and mostly Sports and Play, with a quick look at Zelda, just up too getting the sling shot.

I found a lot of the Sports stuff quite frustrating, including the training sections, but clearly need to work on timing my shots better.
You’re not wrong about the shoulder ache either Benway.

Liked the shape matching and cow racing games on Play.

I will let folk know my code etc when I’ve set it up.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Does anybody actually play real-life sports anymore?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yes, they do.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I meant people here who are discussing the wiiii. What and when was the last real sport you played Benway?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I had a few rounds of pool last night.

If you mean in terms of physically demanding competitive sports, I don't think I've played any since school. I was jogging over the summer, and I had an ill fated voyage into the world of martial arts a few years back, but that's it. I don't really like sport.

[ 11.12.2006, 09:32: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
i've seen benway attempting martial arts. he's dangerous.
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
lol
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I sucked at it, and gave up like a bitch. What you saw was drunken homo-erotic shennanigans, not Wing Chun Kung Fu.
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
it was better than amp's video of two boys kissing
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Oh god, I just remembered the last meat.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
I was playing football up until my achilles pack up a few months back, during a pretty nasty defeat to make matters worse.
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
I play squash three nights a week, in a vain attempt to convince myself that I'm fit and healthy enough to make it beyond the age of thirty.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
You'll be fine, Zygote. I drink almost as much as you and I'm 30 and a bit. How old's Benway? He's still alive, too.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm 40 in a fortnight [Frown]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I thought you were in your 20's.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
But how do you feel, Benway? Good? Healthy?
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
the alcohol has pickled him ralph, like a shark frozen in time
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Didn't Benway have some strange bleeding issue recently? I seem to remember something like that...
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm not really 40. I'm really only 28 in a fortnight! Man I'm young. I've got my whole life ahead of me! I don't feel that great though.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
You were born on Christmas day?

28. Man...those were the days.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
no, on the 20th
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
I'm 29 in February. My girlfriend keeps mocking me due to my proximity to the grand old age of thirty. She's yet to realise that my laughter at her 'gag' is actually tearing me apart inside. Fucking bitch.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
28 for a man is shit - I've said it before. Worse year of my life - and I've had it tough....etc
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
no, on the 20th

So you'll be 28 in 9 days. Not a fortnight. Unless the UK has some weird metric version of the fortnight.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yeah WHATEVER ralph, Jesus.
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
what are you doing for your birthday? can i come? though i may be busy that evening, i think i have hannukah dinner or something. you really ought to let people know in advance you know
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm doing nothing for my birthday. Never do.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
imperial, ralph - we're not French...

A fortnight, in old england, which see's four and a half days being a month but seven, is divded by the number of crows in the sky - you take that number and add the number of children your wife had before dying in child labour, and that's a fortnight...it's not rocket science.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I was joking Benny. I got Benway to say JESUS and everything.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Will Benway go to hell?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Yep.
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I'm doing nothing for my birthday. Never do.

oh it's okay hannukah drinks are not til the 21st so we can still do something for your birthday. why not gather your friends and go to a nice neighbourhood restaurant?
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
nothing pricey, mind.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zygote:
I'm 29 in February. My girlfriend keeps mocking me due to my proximity to the grand old age of thirty. She's yet to realise that my laughter at her 'gag' is actually tearing me apart inside. Fucking bitch.

I had existential angst for months before my thirtieth birthday. Transpired that when it actually rolled round I was really 'meh' because I was marooned at home with a broken foot and a burgeoning alcohol problem and mobility and booze were my main concerns.

Perhaps you could try brealing a limb?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
hmm, I'll probably just have a couple of tins in front of the TV.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
maybe have a little cry.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
I cried on my thirtieth birthday because I had to leave the pub early.
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
maybe have a little cry.

dont be like that. come to hannukah cocktails. you can entertain the ladies, perhaps crucifying yourself?
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Louche:
Perhaps you could try brealing a limb?

It's a thought, but it would then mean that I'd be unable to play squash - resulting in me suffocating on the mounds of flab that would inevitably spread across my body like a sexually-charged tropical bush fire.

I could always turn to the bottle; my closest, loyalist acquaintance.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I'm 25 next august. Oh noes!

Incidentally I am mostly playing Live for Speed using my Logitech DFPro steering wheel. This may have been partially responsible for how well I controlled my new Nissan S14 200SX turbo when it decided it was going to launch itself sideways off a roundabout at the weekend.
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
console yourself with the thought that the older you get the cheaper your car insurance should become, ringo. assuming you don't have any claims, that is.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
talking of...my scooter got stolen - I'm not sure how I feel about this as it's insured, I've had fantastic use out of it, it was due a big service, I'd had it for two and a half years and I'd gotten a car for work just earlier this year.... still, I liked that scooter
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by H1ppychick:
console yourself with the thought that the older you get the cheaper your car insurance should become, ringo. assuming you don't have any claims, that is.

Well yes being 25 does have its perks in terms of insurance. Plus having already got 4 years no claims bonus which is now protected is always handy, so it’ll be 5 years (touch wood) by the time I’m 25. Which, let’s face it, can only mean that I will get that Nissan Skyline I’ve always wanted. For the moment though I’m plenty happy with my ‘baby skyline’ S14, which is plenty powerful compared to my old Mazda, and still happily put on its dancing shoes and does the sideways shuffle.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Nissan Skyline

There was one of these parked near to me in the car park at Gretna services the other day. I actually genuinely considered getting out and taking a picture of it, then pretending on here that I'd bought one. Just to impress you. How sad is that?
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
You should so have done that Louche, I can just imagine Ringo exploding in jealous rage.

Which Skyline do you want most Ringo, the R34?

[ 12.12.2006, 07:20: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
There was a murcielago parked outside my house the other day. I don't know how good they are at going sideways though.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boy Racer:
You should so have done that Louche, I can just imagine Ringo exploding jealous rage.

Which Skyline do you want most Ringo, the R34?

A 4 door R32 GTS with an RB26DETT with an Uras 'monkey magic' kit and Nismo GT-LM wheels.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
can you overclock them?
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Does it have an oscillator?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
what's the maximum altitude?
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
How many USB ports does it have?
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
does it come in black?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
It comes with direct-port shut-the-fuck-up injection
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
sweet
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
It comes with direct-port shut-the-fuck-up injection

Is that the same stuff the Russian govt. use at press conferences?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
oooh political [Eek!]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Alright, Ringo?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Yeah I'm good. You alright Misc?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Not bad, man.
Not bad at all.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I had my mate Marc and my brother in law Ian over on Saturday night to give the Wii it’s first proper try out as a party game.

It worked very well.

Tennis, baseball, and bowling we’re all winners in Sport, and although we’re still finding the putting a bit twitchy, we got on better with Golf. Playing the powerball training mode for bowling as a multiplayer was also a very good move.

In Play the shooting and cow racing were clear favourites, although I really like the matching shapes game too - the focus required for the later levels of which is dizzying.

I think we were probably playing for around six hours, and still wanted more. Wii now has another convert in my brother in law.

Our research also suggests that you can definitely play intoxicated, although I suspect some stretching will be necessary before future sessions as I ached like fuck by yesterday evening.

[ 18.12.2006, 05:26: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Been playing Zelda, and it's pretty good. Sadly my order from HMV vanished, as does around 1/5 of all things I order, so I'm going to have to hassle the post office. I went out and bought the game on Saturday and have put in myabe 7 or 8 hours so far. It's got varied gameplay, great sound and graphics, and pretty much everything you'd expect. Nothing is really different, and the control system, while certainly better in terms of immersion within the game, doesn't seem to add any extra dimensions. Like, it feels better the flick your wrist to swing your sword than to hit the A button, but that's about as far as it goes.

I'm actually enjoying Castlevania more than I am Zelda. I'm a sucker for a 2D platformer, and I love love love both the DS Castlevania games. The look and feel is perfect, pixel art at it's finest, and it keeps me wanting to know what's round the corner. More so than Zelda, because in that game I assume that round the corner is some kind of shooting / running puzzle that once I figured out, might not be so fun to actually execute.

I've got Yoshi's Island to carry on with when I finish that, which has got good gameplay but I don't like the look of it. Final Fantasy III still hasn't turned up.

Oh, and the forecast channel appeared today on the Wii, but when I tried to access it, my remote lost sync with the machine. [Frown]
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Still playing Halo 2, strangely I seem to be getting worse. My kill rate is embarrassing. Im never going to get as good as any 13 year old kid, It's a bit of a fucker really. Time to buy a wii maybe.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I never finished Gears of War, and had to give it back to the guy I borrowed it off. Stopped being fun once I got near the end, and was just a real hard slog. On the 360, all I've been playing is project gotham racing. I can usually win online races, so it keeps me content.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Did you play GOW online? I've never actually played Halo2 not online (well a few times but I never got into it). It's just so much better against real people, even if those people are annoying teenagers. I imagine GOW would be an excellent online game.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
No I didn't play it online. I figured seeing as I couldn't even finish the hardcore single player campaign, I probably wasn't much good at it. I'm not much of an online player anyway.

[ 19.12.2006, 06:58: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
There's not much point to Halo 2 offline is there? I haven't done much online gaming yet mind, apart from round at Marc's.

I imagine the Wii, and my flatmate moving his 360 downstairs, might change that though.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
after The Incident on Unreal 2004, I've not found it in me to frag opponents.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I still play a bit of DEFCON, but usually lose in such a way that makes me thinking I haven't grasped the fundamentals of the game. I tried to play lost planet and rainbow six online demos on the 360, but neither seemed to work.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I liked the way animal crossing DS worked as an online game.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Is anyone else playing Today? The gameplay is ace and the graphics aren't bad apart from the rubbish draw distance.

[ 19.12.2006, 10:51: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
ooh! Just bought

this

quote:

Los Angeles, 1979. You are Kyle Hyde, an ex-cop turned salesman trying to track down a missing friend. Clues lead you to an eerie, old hotel rumored to have one very strange room – a room where wishes are granted. It's up to you to unravel the mystery in Hotel Dusk: Room 215, a gritty new graphic adventure for Nintendo DS. Players hold their DS like a book and use the touch screen to grill characters, search for clues and solve mystifying puzzles. Players follow the plot twists and turns as they hunt for their missing friend and investigate the mysteries of Hotel Dusk.

 -

And look! I'm the main character.

Anyway, I bought it using ebay, so I'll probably never see it.
 
Posted by Fionnula the Cooler (Member # 453) on :
 
Did you ever play Trace Memory, Benway? It was pretty shit. That's what's putting me off Hotel Dusk. Same development team, I think. Rubbish dialogue, anaemic story, boring characters - just like every other computer game ever made, I guess. But Hotel Dusk seems to be trying to pass itself off as some sort of interactive novel, which would be fine if it was interactive Pale Fire or something, but blatantly it's gonna be an interactive Dan Brown short story, one that Dan Brown himself deleted from his harddrive before anyone got the chance to read it because even he realised it was utter shit.

Literary immaturity is ruining most games for me these days. It ruined Twilight Princess, whose initially promising story had an epileptic fit halfway through, smacked its head on a table and died. Its pervasion of Resi 4's dialogue ('If you lay one finger on Ashley, you'll be sorry!', '*Tut*, women', etc) totally undermined the brilliance of the gameplay. Even Phoenix Wright serially raped my eyes with its persistent tautology ('the pointy tip of the knife!'). I mean, really. We don't put up with that shit in books, so why should we make exceptions for games? I dunno. Maybe I'm just expecting too much.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fionnula the Cooler:
Literary immaturity is ruining most games for me these days. It ruined Twilight Princess, whose initially promising story had an epileptic fit halfway through, smacked its head on a table and died. Its pervasion of Resi 4's dialogue ('If you lay one finger on Ashley, you'll be sorry!', '*Tut*, women', etc) totally undermined the brilliance of the gameplay.

There was a pretty good interview/article in Edge a little while back with Simon Pegg, Graham Lineham, Peter Serafinowicz and Charlie Brooker where they were saying pretty much the same thing.

I'm not sure what the answer is, really, other than that the video game industry is itself immature (it's not been around very long, it's perceived primary audience is adolescent and pre adolescent males) and that perhaps as the industry and gamers age a greater amount of sophistication and maturity in terms of games writing may emerge.

Or maybe that you should just start writing some games concepts.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I think it's probably a little simpler than that. A lot of the dialogue/text is written in a comic book style. While it may look ok in a 'graphic noval' to have the likes of Spiderman or whoever talking like that, when actually acted out by voice actors, it sounds awful.

Also, the majority of these games are primaraly created for the Japanese market, by Japanese games designers and writers. It's entirely possible that a lot of it is simply down to poor translation with no poetic licence used to improve the game's dialogue.

That's what I reckon it is anyway.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
That said, one of the worst culprits I've seen are the recent Need for Speed games, where the dialogue and acting in the cutscenes is so bad you almost want to eat your own face with embarassment, especially if there's someone else there in the room with you. You almost feel kind of responsible for it. And Electronic Arts make these games mostly for the North American and European markets, so they've really got no excuse.

I think what it really means, probably, is that games designers while being very good with code, spend too much time locked away from the outside world with only comic books and children's TV to give them any idea about how real human beings interract.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boy Racer:
Or maybe that you should just start writing some games concepts.

Oh twatboxes! I saw an advert in the back of a paper looking for writers for a computer games company and thought of Jimmy the Cooler. Let me have a look into it.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quiet down everybody! Quiet now! So, you're all aching to know what Hotel Dusk: Room 215 is like? Been playing it for a few days now, and here are my thoughts.

Starts off pretty amazing. The intro delivers, and the art style + control system feels perfect. While it doesn't quite feel like it's set in the seventies (they couldn't resist giving the hero a slightly anime lead male haircut), the first hour or so feels great. There's plenty of neat little tricks with the touch screen, including a notebook that you can use to jot down clues and remembr trigger events. The hand drawn art style of the characters brings them to life, and while it would be nice to be able to leave the hotel, or at least, have some more variation to leave environments, the 3D is done pretty well. The textures don't look so good close up, but then, it's a DS. Music is alright, although there's only one tune for when you're just bussing yourself around, randomly looking at things and opening things, which is what I tend to spend most time doing in adventure games. Because I'm thick. The puzzles aren't hard really, although they don't tend to 'chain' very well. As in, normally on a good adventure you'd do A to allow B and then C, so you get to D, but here the puzzles are usually isolated, and bookended by characters just popping up out of nowhere when you've completed trigger events, even if the trigger event doesn't seem relevant to that character. They're still good though, and the constant use of the touch screen to orchestrate physical activies such as using tools, writing, searching etc makes them seem natural.


As the game goes on, it becomes less fun, and more about just getting through it. There are still little flourishes throughout. One excellent moment was where you have to flip over a jigsaw puzzle to see what's written on the back - the puzzle in on the left screen, and there is table on the right screen. So you have to flip it by closing and opening the DS itself! That was awesome. Simple pleasures maybe, but it really goes a long way in creating immersion.

The script is..well..it's big. There's a lot of text. In terms of character interaction, the game feels less active than phoenix wright. The whole game is set in a hotel, and you wander around bumping into people, opening and closing doors, and having a LOT of conversations, not all of which seem to advance the plot. Obviously you need character development in there, but you tend to find that they hammer each point home a bit too much. The inclusion of the notebook feature lead me to think that this was going to be like one of the Police Quest games, where if you miss a vital clue, you're finished. But really, there's still a fair bit of hand holding, in the form of repetition and internal monologue. So you're spend a lot of time just moving through screens of dialogue, a la phoenix wright, but without the sense of achievement that you get with those games.

Charaterisation is handled quite well though, and in terms of maturity and complexity, the script is deeper than you might expect, but there's still lots of people going "huh?" and "....". In terms of subject, it's not Max Payne or anything, but it feels kind of seedy, and the characters are all pretty well drawn for the 70s noir feel.

So, I'm plodding through. The game now is just following cues. Going to this room, that room, searching here, presenting this to them. The cues are usually pretty clear, so you get a sense of being railroaded through the plot, but the chance to go in a new room or solve a mystery keeps a degree of allure. I'd give it a 7/10 - technically pretty perfect, although needs more locations, more freedom, and better rewards. And less yakking.

[ 06.02.2007, 09:06: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
what else. I got FFIII yesterday which I started, and it looks like FF VII squeezed into a DS, so the interior enivonments are frikkin tiny! I was hoping it'd be like animal crosing or something, but no. Eyestrain ahoy. Also a friend lent me GRAW and Oblivion for the 360, but they're NTSC, and I'm too chicken to test them in case they don't work. I'd rather keep them on the pile and look forward to playing them rather than spoil the dream now.

Haven't picked up Warioware since the day I got it, but that's because there's no room for me to play it.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I've been playing the X360 alot more than the Wii because I'm the sort of person who favours flashy visuals and surround sound over innovation.

Playing through Gears of WOOOAAARGGH! on 'Hardcore' setting, which is great fun, although as you'd expect it's exactly like 'casual' but a bit harder.

Also been playing a lot of Dead Rising. I was quite suprised when Jimmy Big Nuts said it got boring quickly, because it struck me that there was quite a lot to do in it. There have been moments where I've thought 'OK, this is pretty tedious now', but then I'll go for a wander and find some exciting event I've never noticed before. The game kind of demands that you make your own fun to get the most out of it. If dressing your character up in a woman's summer dress and then run through the mall whacking zombies with a handbag just for the sake of it, doesn't amuse you then probably sandbox games aren't really your bag.

I'm looking forward to Crackdown, incidentally. That looks like fun.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
GOW on hardcore gets well frustrating at times. The bit in the mansion was a pain, and all that stuff on the train turned into a tedious snipe-fest. I never got past the bit where you have to man the chaingun. I wasn't having any fun by that point. And then the dude who lent it to me went away, so I don't have it any more.

Dead Rising, you know, it's cool and all, but I don't feel like I'm really progressing through it. Whatever you're doing, the basic gameplay is finding weapons, beating zombies until the weapon breaks, and then finding more weapons, and doing horrible escort missions if you fancy it. And as they said on the gamespot.com podcast last week - nobody likes escort missions. There's not enough variety in the missions. And while the mall setting is good for recreating Dawn of the Dead, it's limiting. All the shops look the same. I loved the last two GTA games because even though you could say it was just driving and shooting, the fact that you'd be in a boat, or a plane, or a bike, in anything from a military base in the desert using a jetpack to the streets of san fran in a ferrari made it feel like you had total freedom. You could avoid violence or be violent. You chose your moral path. Dead Rising gives you no options. I thought it was great when I started it. I was inded wearing a dress and a giant plasic lego man's head, taking the undead out with samurai swords and chainsaws, but now I'm tired of going from A to B, battering the same zombies over and over again.

[ 06.02.2007, 09:35: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
It's true that there's not as much freedom/variety as in GTA, but that's true of a lot of games. I don't think it's that repetitive, although I haven't done that many of the escort missions. Stuff like the fight in the supermarket with the tooled up shopping trolley, or the motorbike chase through the maintenance tunnels broke up the 'hit zombie till it dies' sections. And I like the fact you get 'Erotica' points for taking zombie upskirt photos. I dunno. It's not perfect, obviously, but it seems like there's a lot to do there.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
It breaks it up a bit, but not enough. Yeah, most games aren't as free as GTA, but then most don't have the nuts to go 'free roaming' because it's a big job. I've only got as far as just beating the trolley man. If I'm playing a console game, it's still zelda. That small text thing is a pain on Dead Rising too. Maybe I need a decent sized HDTV to get full benefit, rather than jonesy's old CRT 4:3.
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
a friend lent me GRAW and Oblivion for the 360

I have Oblivion on the PC and it's an outstanding game - huge world, massive choice as to what sort of character you want to play as with all Elder Scrolls games, and hugely immersive, some of the dim, broken down ruins you have to creep through are amazingly atmospheric.

I'm well and truly hooked on The Burning Crusade, the expansion pack for World of Warcaft though, phenomenal game imo..
 
Posted by jnhoj (Member # 286) on :
 
thorn, do you wanna play gears of war on co op with me sometime?

it just got better and better on casual, but i cba playing it alone again, with spaztic team mates who by all accoutns are wheeling around moaning and running into enemry.

i mean not that bad, but yeah, a gears of war time would be good.
 
Posted by jnhoj (Member # 286) on :
 
anyway been playing saints row?

ive had it out but...man talk about script. who wrote this? did thye just emply every b movie writer ever?

its just...shit.

Its gta with bells and whistles and done better but its not the same, the universe doesnt grab me, the city feels empty, no grit, just shine.

i think ive had my time with gta style games now tbh though.
 
Posted by jnhoj (Member # 286) on :
 
i think im sufficiently drunk tonight to attempt jeff mitners visulations whackness on the 360 though. maybe,
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jnhoj:
thorn, do you wanna play gears of war on co op with me sometime?

Yes! Should be getting broadband in the new house this week. So I will be 'well up for it'.

I agree with you on Saints Row. I was thinking of selling it and putting the money towards Crackdown. Saints Row is playable, but the script and general 'gangsta' atmosphere makes it incredibly tiresome.

I did enjoy the mission wher you had to keep getting hit by cars as part of an insurance scam, though.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I finally got stuck into Final Fantasy III yesterday. After two bad starts, I'm now motoring up to level 7. I'm on the twilight world in Zelda, so I think I'm nearing the end of that now. I saw my brother yesterday and he was going on about Battlefield 2142. He reckons I should get it.

[ 12.02.2007, 05:22: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Downloaded Super Mario World on VC. Completed it. Still one of the best games ever, but painfully short compared to stuff I've played before.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Downloaded Super Mario World on VC. Completed it. Still one of the best games ever, but painfully short compared to stuff I've played before.

You should try *this one, 'dude'.

[Cool]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Yesterday I had a long session on Ghost Recon Advanced Warfare for the 360. A good game. The initial stages of the campaign are incredible. It's like watching war footage or something. I also had a crack at the mulitplayer, and got owned by everybody. You know, I'd be stalking round some cover, lining up on the enemy, and then I'm dead - a single headshot. Over and over again. Bah. Still, it's a better game than I first thought. I just wish I didn't suck so bad at multiplayer.

I also played a few rounds of Mortal Kombat online, and after winning a few, decided to quit while I was ahead. Up Back Up Up High-Kick!
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I've started getting back in to * Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines - a Source-based RPG that was released in bug-ridden and unfinishable form back in 2004. I played the game shortly after it was released but gave up due to the frustration of frequent crashes and missions that couldn't be completed. The developer, Troika , released a couple of patches which fixed a few of the problems and then went bust, leaving fans of the game with little hope.

I'd pretty much forgotten about Bloodlines until last week when I happened across some information about a team of people who had taken on the task of writing their own patches. The game is now much more playable and despite the occasional glitch, I consider it to be almost as good as the original Deus Ex. Aside from the Vampiric stylings, there are a lot of similarities between these games, including the choice of dialogue affecting your progress, the many ways of completing tasks, and the freedom of choosing which characters to side with. The voice acting is excellent (for a game) and despite its age, the graphics are still reasonably impressive.

I'd recommend the game to anyone who enjoyed Deus Ex but was disappointed by Invisible War. I don't understand why this style of game isn't more popular, as it's way more involving than any FPS I've played.

Read more *here.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
I'd recommend the game to anyone who enjoyed Deus Ex but was disappointed by Invisible War. I don't understand why this style of game isn't more popular, as it's way more involving than any FPS I've played.

I had a go at this just after it came out. I thought it was pretty good although something about it just didn't grab me. The dialogue sequences were a bit dull - the camera always just focussed on the dude you were talking too - same as with Oblivion. I find that really tedious. In Deus Ex, you got a few different views of each onversation, which made it a bit more palatable. I had been thinking about giving it another go, which I might if they're patched it up a bit.

Most recently I've been playing Crackdown, which is good fun, although a couple of annoying glitches mar it a bit. Stuff like, if you're trying to shoot someone whilst standing near a wall, your dude just whacks the wall with his gun. Stupid shit like that. Otherwise it's a laugh riot.
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
Bloodlines is a good game, nicely atmospheric and plenty of requirement to actually think tactically about what you're doing rather than just diving straight in. I never had any problems finishing it, although I think I may have patched it as soon as I got it a couple of years back, keep meaning to go back and try out the different endings but haven't got around to it as yet.

I wouldn't have said it has the same level of freedom as Deus Ex though, seemed a little more linear to me, granted you can choose what order to do things in and who to ally with, but in deus Ex there are whole sections of the game that you never see unless you speak to the right person or make the right alliance.

Anyone know if there's going to be a Deus Ex 3? I know Spector said at the time that he wanted to do one but it seems to have disappeared withoutb a trace...?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Physic:
keep meaning to go back and try out the different endings but haven't got around to it as yet.

quote:

I wouldn't have said it has the same level of freedom as Deus Ex though, seemed a little more linear to me, granted you can choose what order to do things in and who to ally with, but in deus Ex there are whole sections of the game that you never see unless you speak to the right person or make the right alliance.

But if you haven't got around to playing it through a number of times, how do you know that Bloodlines doesn't also have whole sections of the game that you never see unless you speak to the right person?

You're right though - it probably is more linear, but it's certainly the only game of this style (that I've played) that's come anywhere close to Deus Ex's freedom.

Now ٨ there's an unwieldy sentence!
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Physic:
Anyone know if there's going to be a Deus Ex 3? I know Spector said at the time that he wanted to do one but it seems to have disappeared withoutb a trace...?

After a glance at Google, all I can find is this: ( [Frown] )

quote:
"The brains behind such games as Theif and System Shock has said that he would like to return to the Deus Ex Universe, for there are many more stories to tell. The only problem is Eidos owns the IP rights."

 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
if you haven't got around to playing it through a number of times, how do you know that Bloodlines doesn't also have whole sections of the game that you never see unless you speak to the right person?[/i] freedom.

That's a fair point, I have actually played a fair bit of it more than once, just not played it all the way through more than once, so yeah there may be more than I've seen. For me the most freedom I've seen in a game is probably the Elder Scrolls series, Oblivion basically allows you to create any type of character you fancy, and then just wander around a huge world doing whatever the hell you want, doing the main quest, doing any number of side quests, advancing through the ranks of different guilds, becoming a murderer and being adopted into a secret society of assassins or just raiding old tombs and dungeons in search of treasure, less a case of having the chance to play it differently each time, more that it's virtually impossible to have exactly the same experience twice.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
One of the things that really annoyed me about oblivion was the fact that it was levelled so whenever you went up a level, all the enemies did too. Or if you went into some dungeon, you wouldn't find anyone way, way beyond your skill level. It just made the whole levelling up aspect pointless. Relative to the world around you, your strength etc never really changed.
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
One of the things that really annoyed me about oblivion was the fact that it was levelled so whenever you went up a level, all the enemies did too. Or if you went into some dungeon, you wouldn't find anyone way, way beyond your skill level. It just made the whole levelling up aspect pointless. Relative to the world around you, your strength etc never really changed.

That actually depends somewhat on how careful you are to max out your stat gains when levelling, if you make sure you only level when you can apply 5 point increases to your key stats then no your relative strength doesn't really change, if however you only get 2-3 point increases you'll soon start to notice the difference believe me.

I think it's a tough one really, they're trying to make it so that you can go anywhere at any level and always have the game being challenging but not undoable, part of the whole freedom of choice concept I guess. If you want it tougher you do realise that there's the slider bar where you can increse the difficulty don't you? Not ideal I know but better than nothing.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
It's not so much that I want it tougher, just that part of the fun - for me - in RPGs is the way you start off feeble and eventually turn into a kind of hard nut by the game's standards. But as everyone you meet in Oblivion is always going to be equivalent in strength to you, you never have that moment of steamrollering a bunch of bandits you might encounter towards the end of the game, or getting your arse handed to you in a dungeon only to go back fighting fit hours later and return the favour. I dunno. It just suprised me that they did it that way. I expected it to be more like - say - City of Heroes, where if you're so inclined you can go back to the guys who once seemed invincible, and take them all out with one attack.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I've almost finished Zelda, which has been great. Probably going to get Okami next. I'm intrigued by the new Final Fantasy, but I've never really got on with the FF games I've played in the past, anyone got/played it?
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
Yeah I agree completely, playing WOW there are few things more satisfying than going back to a lower level Elite who you struggled with a few weeks back, and taking him out in one swift backstab.

I get where you're coming from, it's just that I think it's something of a double edged sword to be honest, if they have areas which are tougher than others then it removes some of the sense of freedom, and since freedom of movement and choice seems to be central to the whole philosophy of the games I can kind of understand why they've done it that way. There is some sense of getting stronger though, learning special melee attacks to disarm or knock down and opponent is pretty sweet, as is learning a kick ass new spell; I'm archmage of the mages guild in mine and when you achieve that rank you get a spell specially for the archmage, if I recall correctly it does some of each type of damage in one hit, cheap mana cost. I went through one of the ayleid ruins and was one to two shotting everything in sight with that spell.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I don't know much about Oblivion and World of Warcraft. Is it possible to dip into these games for an occasional two hour session, or are they the sort of games which require nightly dedication? I'm intrigued, but I don't think I can devote days of my life to it.

Also is the combat in "realtime", or "turn based"? I played a Final Fantasy game on the Playstation years ago, and I couldn't get along with the bizarre notion of striking your opponent then retreating, waiting five seconds, then getting attacked, then waiting... etc. That's the one element which has kept me away from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - otherwise it seems like an amazing game.

I am n00b.
You are teh r0xx0r.

Explain, please.

[ 01.03.2007, 09:50: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Also is the combat in "realtime", or "turn based"? I played a Final Fantasy game on the Playstation years ago, and I couldn't get along with the bizarre notion of striking your opponent then retreating, waiting five seconds, then getting attacked, then waiting... etc. That's the one element which has kept me away from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - otherwise it seems like an amazing game.

Yeah the whole turn based thing completely put me off the only Final Fantasy game I've played - VII I think.

I wouldn't let that put you off Knights though Misc, the combat system in that is very playable even if supposedly turn based.

In many ways that's what I'm asking about the new FF. Is the combat system good for those of us turned off by old school turn based play?
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
Okay, Oblivion is completely realtime, single click for a normal hit with your melee weapon of choice, long click plus a direction key for a powerful attack. You can easily dip in for an hour or two at a time, no requirement at all to spend hours on end playing it; you can quicksave at any point, and it has a 'quick travel' system so that rather than physically journeying between towns/locations, you can jump directly to any location you've already been to and it will just wind the calendar on the appropriate amount of time, the only thing you lose is the chance to discover new locations on the way.

World of Warcraft on the other hand is a total lifestealer, you can dip in for an hour or two most of the time (although it's very easy to lose track of the time), but for running some of the bigger instances you'll be teaming with maybe 4 other people, and can be playing for easily as much as 4 hours to complete it and kill all the bosses ( some of the 20 man raid content can take days to complete with people playing in shifts). You don't have to do instances but you miss out on some of the best game content if you don't. Combat is realtime but you basically click different buttons for different spells/attacks, with a delay between each attack depending on weapon speed or spell cast time/cooldown time. It's somewhere in between realtime and turn based basically.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Thanks for the info, Physic, and happy 2k.

I assume both of these games are "on line", correct?

I probably shouldn't bring up Star Wars Galaxies, as I've read a lot of scathing criticism, but has anyone played it? I think you have to pay a monthly fee or something ridiculous.
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Thanks for the info, Physic, and happy 2k.

I assume both of these games are "on line", correct?

WoW is online, it's an MMORPG, Oblivion isn't (suprisingly, the engine would be perfect for an MMORPG tbh).

Hadn't actually noticed the 2k thing until you said that, seems a rather paltry tally compared to the rest of you..
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
I probably shouldn't bring up Star Wars Galaxies, as I've read a lot of scathing criticism, but has anyone played it? I think you have to pay a monthly fee or something ridiculous.

I was banging on about this when it came out. If you've ever played a game online and had it turn to shit, then a fixed fee is paltry in comparison to having your favourite game raped by haxxors.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Wow, I just found an *old thread on the subject, started by Charrudeboi. I was complaining about subscription fees back then too, as well as correctly predicting the title of the final Star Wars film. Great days.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Wow, old me is mongy.
 
Posted by Hades (Member # 57) on :
 
on the wii im currently playing Zelda and on the DS im still working my way through New super mario brothers and Leo star wars (the bugs in that latter game piss me off so much that i ofton put it down and dont pick it up again for several weeks)
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I played Wii Sports with a couple of mates again on Saturday night (Tennis, Baseball and Bowling. Mostly Bowling) and Red Steel (which one of them lent me) for a couple of hours on Sunday.

Red Steel's not brilliant but it's not a bad introduction to the possibilties of the Wii controls in an FPS.

Will be getting Okami later this week I think.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Played a bit more GRAW at the weekend. Still shit at it.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
do any other forumites have gamercards?

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[ 05.03.2007, 11:50: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
dear God I hope not.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I do keep meaning to register on Xbox Live. I'll add you as a friend when I get round to it. I might try it tonight as I think I'm on my own this evening again. That's been happening a lot recently now I think about. Ever since Valentine's day. She shouted something tearful about going to see her mother and... yeah. I don't really remember. I was a bit drunk and trying to play Gears of War.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I see you have 3 stars of 'rep' there bad-boy.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
I do keep meaning to register on Xbox Live. I'll add you as a friend when I get round to it. I might try it tonight as I think I'm on my own this evening again. That's been happening a lot recently now I think about. Ever since Valentine's day. She shouted something tearful about going to see her mother and... yeah. I don't really remember. I was a bit drunk and trying to play Gears of War.

If you do, we could play doom online or something, on XBLA. I don't have GoW anymore [Frown]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
I see you have 3 stars of 'rep' there bad-boy.

It starts on 3 stars, and nobody has rated me. I just slip in and out of multiplayer games without making friends.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I too had a serious relationship crisis while playing GoW. I spent a whole day trying to play it, and got through most of it, but at the same time I was in a day long "how to make the relationship work" meeting with Louise after a spectacular booze fuelled breakdown the previous evening. Lots of pausing the game and blankly staring at her as she talked to me about relationship stuff, and then getting the action in when she 'went out for a walk' or was on the phone to her friends. Playing it silent and agreeing to everything saw me good in the end.

[ 05.03.2007, 12:09: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Hades (Member # 57) on :
 
I've spent the last hour or so playing the new Sonic game on the wii.

It's not to bad but i havent come to a full judgment yet.

I was temporeraly pleased that the bad guy wasnt robotnik (I refuse to call him eggman) but the git still managed to pop into the game in the first world. Im sure he'll end up revealed to have been the master planner of the whole thing. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm just getting stuck into Oblivion. Seems pretty good. I like the persuasion game.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Thorn, the friend request didn't work properly [Frown]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Er, yeah. I didn't get round to joining XBL last night. Just did some writing and then played Crackdown for an hour or so.

Crackdown's good fun mind, although you'll probably find many of the same problems with it as you did with Dead Rising. No escort missions, though, which is always a bonus.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Oh right.


*cries*
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm not into Crackdown. I tried the demo and it didn't really like how it looked. I've just ordered Viva Pinata and Ridge Racer 6 from lovefilm, which should keep me going. I've still only got half way through GRAW, and the multiplayer is very addictive.

What I would like is Outrun 2, but the fucking thing doesn't run on the 360, only the xbox.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I suck quite badly at GRAW. It keeps confusing me - all that stuff on the HUD.

Well done on getting a mortgage by the way. Where are you moving to?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
you have to give it a few hours, but once you get into GRAW, it's superb. Honestly, recommended.

As for the mortgage... It's in the process of being sorted, so I haven't got it yet. They said it should be okay, but today I need to go to my bank and beg for a statement, and then go to another bank and present some stuff, they've then got to call my agency etc, so we'll see. The place itself is in finsbury park.
 
Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
 
Has anyone played Crackdown yet? Apparently it's supposed to be GTA on steroids, and instead of a criminal, your some sort of agent. I want it.

here's an ign link.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Amy:
Has anyone played Crackdown yet?

Never heard of it.
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Amy:
Apparently it's supposed to be GTA on steroids,

How the fuck does a computer game take drugs?

[ 06.03.2007, 07:05: Message edited by: Zygote ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
quote:
Originally posted by Amy:
Has anyone played Crackdown yet?

Never heard of it.
lolol
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
sorry thorn, it didn't work again. Maybe there's a problem with your account? [Frown]

[ 07.03.2007, 05:22: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Has anyone on here got an Xbox Live account? I'm looking for people who might be up for a bit of Doom on XBLA, or maybe GRAW? Here's an ign link here.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yeah I'd be up for a bit of GRAW. My gamertag is Finsbury78. Can you see how I came up with that.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
also, that link doesn't work.

Hey thorn if you like games, why not join up with gamespot? It's free, and it's another chance for you to add me as a friend!
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I'm already a member of Gamespot, although I find the forums heavy going. Last time I was on there I got in a fight when I claimed that maybe if someone didn't go in for PC gaming it wasn't because they were a jobless 14 year old living with their parents, but just that they had other things to spend their money on like maybe, kids, or a house or buying their own food, which didn't go down well at all.

I dunno. All the PC games are clogged up with 'Will my computer run this?' threads and all the XBox forums are 'Will this be a Halo beater?' and all the Wii forums are 'Review says the controls are "shit"'. So I don't really get much out of it.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
you're already a member!? Then what's stopping us from being gamespot pals?

me
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
u-unless..

..in which case..

[Frown]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Well, exactly.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I...
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Christ, this is embarrasing.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I've clocked up around 15 or 16 hours in Oblivion now, and I'm getting into it. Also - a tmo forumite has added me as a friend on Xbox live! Not thorn.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
You can double that, because I hit 35 hours last night. That's a lot of Oblivion. 19/60 achievements so far, which suggests an alarming completion time of over 100 hours. Still, not bad for £20.

I was picking locks in my dreams last night as a result of caning the thieves guild questline - only two more ranks to go.

What else. Stuck on FFIII, right near the end, which is annoying after 35 hours of dungeon crawling to get there. Picked up Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles on xbox arcade yesterday morning. Funny story actually. We were supposed to be going to see Gilbert and George at the Tate followed by Citizen Cane at the NFT, but instead I spent the day playing 4 four player TMNT on xbox live. Much more fun.

Anyway, thorn, I didn't get the friend request this weekend again. I'm going to email Microsoft and find out what's going on.

[ 19.03.2007, 06:35: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Is the TMNT an exact replica of the old arcade game? If so I may have to put off buying a bike for a month and buy a 360 instead.

I got Tiger Woods for the Wii on Friday but unfortunately due to actually going out and playing real sport I didn't get as much time to play as I'd hoped.

Controls are quite hard to get the hang of. It turns out that if you swing with both hands it's really hard to hit it straight so at the moment I'm swinging with one hand. This is irritating as I want to swing as if I'm hitting a golf ball so will have to practice.

Graphics are very meh. I mean obviously they're nowhere near the 360 graphics for the game but they're not as nice as RE4 on gamecube which is how I judge graphics for the wii. There are stupid deer in the course that are basically 2d rendered deer shapes that have 2 position - head up and head down and no movement to get in between which looks really awful and would have been better totally left out.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
it is an exact replica of the arcade. Four player is pretty awesome.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
thorn, Microsoft got back to me and said that they hadn't even seen any pending friend requests for me! I told them that there was obviously a problem with their system, and they'll email me again tomorrow after having a closer look.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I got Okami. It is very Zelda-like, the 'celestial brush' control system is thrillingly innovative, it looks fabulous, and is immersive and compulsive. I'm not far in, but I'd say it's easily one of the best games out on the PS2.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I just played oblivion again. 1 more achievement. Game lasts for fucking ever.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Awesome. Street Fighter Turbo and Final Fight coming to the virtual console.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I can't get my fucking Wii to work with the fucking wireless internet. I set it all up, keyed in my WEP and all the rest of it, tested the connection and it says "Yeah, fuckface, you got a connection", (not word for word, but that's the gist). It even downloaded a couple of updates (useless, mainly). Then when I try and go into the Wii channels it does wheeling spastic arms and tells me I need to agree to the agreement. So I go into the agreement and I'm all like, "yeah, bitch let's get Connect24 on the go" and it says "Connect24 services not being offered at this time, lol". WHAT THE FUCK! Why is everyone else being offered it and not me? Fucking c**ts.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
I had the exact same problem and I fixed it.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
You are such a motherfucker.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Yeah. The thing is I can't remember how I fixed it so I'm having a quick google. It was something to do with changing the settings on the wireless router I think.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Ah. I set the router channel to 1. Lots of sites said it has to be set to 1 or 11 to work. Try that.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Cheer for coming back on that. I tried setting the router to channel 1. It didn't get the Wii working but it did stop wireless internet from working at all, on any device in the house.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I haven't set up my wireless Wii thing either, but mostly because I'm a lazy luddite.

I got The Godfather for Wii this week. Extorting folk is indeed great fun with the Wii controls.
I just managed to start a gang war in the process of taking over the Tattaglias warehouse in Little Italy.

God I want GTA to come out for the Wii now though.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
Cheer for coming back on that. I tried setting the router to channel 1. It didn't get the Wii working but it did stop wireless internet from working at all, on any device in the house.

Nice. I'm glad to have helped. My entire wireless appears to have died as well which meant i got up early this morning for my pre-work wank and found myself sorely disappointed.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Everyone I've ever met who has a wireless Internet connection seems to have suffered from occasional problems at best, and everyday frustration at worst. Also I believe that in most cases it's a fair bit slower and less secure than a conventional wired network.

Is it really worth all this hassle just for the sake of getting rid of a network cable or two? I have to say I'm more tempted to upgrade to a wired gigabit network than to go wireless.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
My Wii is about 8 metres from my computer as the crow flies so to take a wire all around the wall would be a hassle as it would also have to go around the fireplace and I'd probably need like a 14 metre cable which I don't really want to do.

Today is the first time that I've had any problem with my internet for about 8 months so I definitely think it's worth it. Also I believe it may be a problem with the USB port on the front of my computer as I unplugged the modem when it wasn't working and plugged in my ipod and that actually took a bit of jiggling about to get it to sync with itunes.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Is it really worth all this hassle

Fucking hell, no. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. I thought it would be simple, but no.

Having said, the connection between the PC and the internet was working fine all last week (er, the longest ever) and very fast, and it's only cuz I swapped the channels over that it stopped working. But it took a lot of hassle to get there, and mostly it's been frustration and tears.

It's not really a question of an extra cable or two, though - the phone line comes into the house in the bedroom on the first floor. The games consoles are on the ground floor and the PC is in the loft, so wireless seemed like the obvious way to go.
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
My wireless connection is usually pretty fucking sweet, but I think my router may be dying as it keeps on going 'meh' at me and I have to go downstairs and power it off and on.

The reason I wanted wireless: broadband (cable) connection is to study at back of house on ground floor, I wanted to be able to laze on the sofa at the front of the house on the first floor and surf the web at the same time.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Virtual Console is mega shit compared to xbox live arcade. The only reason to do the connect24 thing is to get the browser, for youtube on the tv sweetness.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Yeah, I guess if you do laptops, it's more worthwhile.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
and I've mostly been playing Puzzle Quest this week. Addictive.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I haven't tried XboxLive yet. I don't want to shell out £60 for a wireless bridge only for it to sit there uselessly, telling me it can't get a connection.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I've wired that connection, because it's all about multiplayer gaming. I don't want that sucker dropping out if I'm hosting.

[ 30.03.2007, 06:44: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
I haven't tried XboxLive yet. I don't want to shell out £60 for a wireless bridge only for it to sit there uselessly, telling me it can't get a connection.

hey, if you ever get it sorted out, you could add me as a friend! [Smile]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
still hammering Oblivion, although the end is in sight now. Finished Mage Guild, Fighters Guild, Theives Guild and Arena, so only the main plot and the Dark Brotherhood to go. Currently closing oblivion gates, which is a bit of a gyp.

Last night I bought Castlevania: Symphony of Night in a fit of XBLA madness, and that's pretty good. Genuinely fun, and I didn't realise how similar the DS versions were to the original console releases.

I bought Elite Beat Agents at the weekend, so should have that in a couple of days. That's one for Louise too. Puzzle Quest is still mad addictive, although it's definitely getting harder as I progress. It's so hypnotic though.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
also - GTA IV trailer looks pretty sweet. Watched that a few times now.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
 -
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A cross between pinball and bagatelle, and so addictive...
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
GTA IV will be 2007's Bomberman Act Zero. Mark my words. Long loved franchise gets revamped for the next-gen with a graphical overhaul that ditches the cartoon style in favour of a more 'serious' look.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Godfather just gets more and more entertaining. I was trying to extort some baker woman and she was having none of it. For some reason she seemed to think she should keep the money she earned rather than paying it to me. Anyway, I started strangling her a bit which was doing OK, then some guy ran in and started shooting at me. Quickly shift focus and drag him. Look around for something to slam him into when my eye falls upon her open oven. Now this isn't one of your electric ovens, this is a big chamber full of flaming coals. I drag the poor schmuck over to the oven and to my joy I get the "Throw over ledge" instruction pop up. Flick both wrists forwards and I'm rewarded with "Cooked Execution".

I am now spending most of my time trying to find every execution possible.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I think that the main potential problem isn't that it'll look better than previous games, but that it seems to be set in the present. The previous two games have had massive amount of nostalgia value from my childhood and teenage years, and fulfilled some genuine personal fantasies. It's hard to see how they could do that for me if the game is set in the early 000's, or even the exact present.

Still, I'm sure it'll be alright. I can't believe they'd fuck it now, having got the formula so right in the past.

[ 02.04.2007, 05:38: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
still hammering Oblivion, although the end is in sight now. Finished Mage Guild, Fighters Guild, Theives Guild and Arena, so only the main plot and the Dark Brotherhood to go. Currently closing oblivion gates, which is a bit of a gyp.

It gets a bit repetitive yeah, but the power stone things you get are totally worth it, some of them have some extremely nice effects, infrared vision, water breathing, damage mitigation and the like, worth getting as you go along to be honest as some can be a big help in the other quests. I need to finish it at some point, I'm up to almost the end of the main quest, completed the Mages Guild but no others, only got a couple of bits to do in the Fighters i think, not even tried the Arena out though. I might even start a new character and play from the start actually, since it's been a while since I last played it.

Currently playing Manhunt on the Xbox, there's something disturbingly gratifying about tearing a guys kidney out with the hooked end of a crowbar and then slamming the straight end through the back of his skull, after he's just been talking smack about you..
 
Posted by guitargirl (Member # 1217) on :
 
Im playing all sorts..

DS - Trauma center and resident evil

PS2 - Guitar hero 1 & 2, Star wars, Silent hill 2, da vinci code, FF X..but mainly GH1&2.

GBA - Whatever my son leaves in it.
 
Posted by guitargirl (Member # 1217) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:


Last night I bought Castlevania: Symphony of Night


Yup I got that game yesterday, not bad at all.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
I got the Godfather for the PS3 - not bad - still have to give it a fair crack mind, but I am having to avoid playing the machine on a school night as I do get a little to involved which tends to cut into my sleep time.

Still loving CoD, Formula 1 and GT-HD Concept
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by guitargirl:
Guitar hero 1 & 2

Damn that's got some great tracks on there - Ramones, White Zombie, BLS, Donnas, Hendrix - shame there is no planned release on the PS3 - I wonder if the device would work on the new system?
 
Posted by guitargirl (Member # 1217) on :
 
GoW + 360 + HDTV = wanking frenzy!

Its just beautiful!

that chainsaw bayonet..*moist*
 
Posted by guitargirl (Member # 1217) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
quote:
Originally posted by guitargirl:
Guitar hero 1 & 2

Damn that's got some great tracks on there - Ramones, White Zombie, BLS, Donnas, Hendrix - shame there is no planned release on the PS3 - I wonder if the device would work on the new system?
ahh I dunno about the ps3, however I did find out that for the 360 its not not going to be a wireless controller, I mean WTF!!

Im waiting for GH3 in the autumn to come out, there had bloody better be some Metallica on it this time!
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Well I've got the HDTV, plus 7.1 surround - I did see on IGN the version 3 will be multi-platform - it shall be awesome!
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by guitargirl:
Im waiting for GH3 in the autumn to come out, there had bloody better be some Metallica on it this time!

I seriously doubt it - Metallica are very protective of their music, hence why you will not find any of their tracks on compilation CD's - the only Metallica tracks I can think of that appeared on non-metallica albums are their version of 53 and 3rd on the Ramones tribute, and I heard also they recorded a track for an Ennio Morricone tribute.

Incidentally, I know their Sound Engineer, the famous Big Mick.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
the famous Big Mick.

Is he Irish?
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
the famous Big Mick.

Is he Irish?
Nah, a brummie, though I can see what you were trying to do there.

 -

Big Mick Hughes, and some speaker things
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Rock's been very good to the midlands, hasn't it?
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
And the midlands have been very good to us for the Rock. In fact I always used to like stopping in brum as it had so many metal fans - I believe the highest concentration in the UK at one time. Dudley will always hold special memories of Rock for me [Smile]
 
Posted by guitargirl (Member # 1217) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
quote:
Originally posted by guitargirl:
Im waiting for GH3 in the autumn to come out, there had bloody better be some Metallica on it this time!

I seriously doubt it - Metallica are very protective of their music, hence why you will not find any of their tracks on compilation CD's - the only Metallica tracks I can think of that appeared on non-metallica albums are their version of 53 and 3rd on the Ramones tribute, and I heard also they recorded a track for an Ennio Morricone tribute.

Incidentally, I know their Sound Engineer, the famous Big Mick.

What a shame, Id love to play some Metallica, although I have seen a few of thiers as "custom" tracks on GH.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I understand the Wii is getting a dancemat game that you can upload your own music onto!
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
I understand the Wii is getting a dancemat game that you can upload your own music onto!

Not sure how that would work with the sort of metal I listen to really, I mean there'd just be 2 sets of foot locations, the main one where you just sort of slouch a bit while moshing and air guitaring, and then a second set for when you get cramp from standing in one position too long and have to shuffle your weight onto the other foot. Maybe they could incorporate the Eye-Toy thing to rate the quality of your air guitaring..
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Physic:
Not sure how that would work with the sort of metal I listen to

I imagine the game would sync the movements to the bass drum, so you'd have to move your feet to the beat of the doublekick drums. Good luck with that, by the way. How fit are you feeling?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I just ordered this bad boy
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I was thinking of getting that, but it's only a matter of weeks since I bought a real guitar. How much of a twat would you feel practicing pretend toy guitar when you had an actual real guitar sitting just a few feet away? A great big twat, I reckon. Great big twatty twat boy.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Physic:
Eye-Toy

A friend of mine proudly told me the other day that he had set his eye toy up on his computer so that it traced the movement of his head/eyes, and the cursor moved wherever he pointed his head.

I laughed at him and called him a geek. You should have seen his face. It was a picture. Oh yes.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
conversely, I did think about getting a real guitar, but decided against it because it I wouldn't bother to learn to play it, and would leave it sitting in the corner like a funky shaped tombstone for my willpower.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
funny old world isn't it.

*thinks*

*laughs to self*

*looks out of window*

 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Shall I go to KFC and buy myself some of those honey BBQ chicken bites, Jimmy or would I benefit from a lovely pear instead?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
a lovely pear. Those Kfc things will leave you bloated and sick, whereas a lovely pear is like medicine for the soul. A lovely scrummy pear - mmmmm! I had kfc last night and I felt a bit bluergh for a few hours afterwards. Plus there was a crazy chick in the kfc shop who was singing to herself and then told everybody about how she was going to get a parking ticket. She had large blotches on her face. I thought maybe she had AIDS and didn't care any more about social graces, or indeed, maintaining a decent diet. Then I felt that at least she had an excuse for kfc, whereas I did not. It could be that she just had sensitive skin or even acne, I don't know why the AIDS thing crossed my mind. Her hands were quite red and looked a bit bloated. Then two dudes recognised each other from when they were at school and took aaaages to make their orders. Turns out the school they both went to is now a girls school or something. One bloke enquired about the other bloke's brother. What a long and drawn out process it was to buy my dinner last night!

eta: I was thinking about that album called "a nice pear" or something with the picture of the tits on front, and lo, I wrote 'pair' instead 'pear;.

[ 04.04.2007, 11:29: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
I'm listening to Ambient 2: Plateaux of Mirror by Brian Eno and Harold Budd.

Doesn't rock much. But I like it.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Ahh, shit. Now I bought the KFC. I've nothing left to do except say "mmmmMMMM, frard chik'n" in a voice not unsimilar to the black maid from Tom and Jerry.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
It's not a KFC unless you're struggling to cram down a full size 10 piece family bucket plus 8 bags of fries all by yourself.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
any crazies in Kfc?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I was also tempted by the honey barbeque thing, but when I walked past KFC, it looked like some kind of horrific preteen nightclub. A team of little girls dressed as sluts propped up the bar whilst gangs of 'ard lads in the obligatory hoodie and baseball cap combo hung around with stern looks of concentration on their faces. I imagine they were having a competition to see who could grow the first pube. A few worried parents with even smaller children in buggies sat around tables near the entrance, as if to ensure an easy escape should anything kick off.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Misc how close do you live to Donnington?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
so, you were going to have a kfc, but you were frightened by teenagers?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Misc how close do you live to Donnington?

A couple of miles I think - assuming that's the Donnington you're talking about.

quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
so, you were going to have a kfc, but you were frightened by teenagers?

Christ, pay attention BigNuts. They were preteens. And no, I decided against it because the queue was fucking massive. I think it's the Easter holiday or something. Also, KFC doesn't really fit with the whole MiscDiet.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Last Saturday I took seven 8-year-olds to McDonald's. I wasn't happy about it, at all. I did get to see TMNT, though.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
A couple of miles I think - assuming that's the Donnington you're talking about.

It's not. Never mind. I am spaq
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Were you thinking of *Donington?
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
any crazies in Kfc?

No. Although I tried not to laugh at this exchange.

"A barbeque bite meal please"

"Drink?"

"Yeah, I'll drink too..... .. .. "

*holding out a cup*
"Drink?!"

"Yes please. It does come with the meal doesn't it?"

*getting upset*
"What drink do you want?"

"Oh....Pepsi, please"
 
Posted by guitargirl (Member # 1217) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
quote:
Originally posted by Physic:
Eye-Toy

A friend of mine proudly told me the other day that he had set his eye toy up on his computer so that it traced the movement of his head/eyes, and the cursor moved wherever he pointed his head.

I laughed at him and called him a geek. You should have seen his face. It was a picture. Oh yes.

Ah I have a good laugh with my eye toy, Crazy TAXIIII!!! TAXIIIII!!! And the washing windows thing,space reporter Ulala - gods sake I cannot do those silly dance movements I just look far too clumbsy and the whacking flying bats game and kung fu. Its fucking knackering, but fun.

Id like to see Singstar teamed up with Guitar hero. That would rock!
 
Posted by jnhoj (Member # 286) on :
 
I can`t afford videogames anymore, I`m selling everything. I never play them either.

It is a sad day when hobbies die!
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
You'll miss them when they're gone.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
a'ight dawgs. If you're anything like me, then you spent the majority of the glorious sunny four day holiday holed up in a sweaty room, wearing your disgusting dressing gown and employing your hands to either play xbox or shovel popcorn down your fat gob. Safe brah. Anyway, After something like 82 hours play, I finally did it - 1000 points - 50/50 achievements. Obviously that doesn't count as completing it now, as there are another 250 / 10 courtesy of Shivering Isles. But still, I felt like those 80+ hours weren't totally wasted. I've got a rank of 114096 of 438872!

*bludgeons self to death with wireless controller*

Then I played some jetpac. That game is hard.

[ 10.04.2007, 05:44: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I clocked The Godfather, I am now Don of NYC, last week when I really should have been doing much more decorating than I managed. Haven't picked up Okami again though which bodes better for me actually getting stuff done this week.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
this week I'm getting Elite Beat Agents (DS), Guitar Hero II (360) and Another Code(DS). And I might see if I can put money down for Super Paper Mario (Wii). But I'm going to loads of stuff at the NFT this week so I'm not going to get to play Guitar Hero until like I'm dead from old age. I don't think there's much coming out for a couple of of months now though, so I can get to play these *****, and maybe finish a game on xbox live arcade. I'm thinking Castlevania.

[ 10.04.2007, 06:07: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I did a whole bunch of online racing on Live for Speed. I then spent the rest of my time watching repeats of the following programmes: American Hotrod, American Chopper, Overhaulin', Build or Bust, Wheeler Dealers, Wrecks to Riches, Monster Garage, and of course Top Gear. I also watched a bit of 'Cage Rage'.

Sky TV is way better than having a real life
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Last night I watched a serial killer marathon on the Crime and Investigation Channel. Fred and Rose West were fucking busters man. There was a thing on about Dennis Nilsen afterwards, and he came across like some kind of romantic gentleman strangler compared to those two. There's something about F & R that's otherworldly - I could imagine a few cenobites sitting around with them in the evenings after a hard day's sexual torturing. It's just so far out and so terrifyingly mundane at the same time that it blows fuses in my head trying to come to terms that it was really real. Like some of the shit that happens in war. Or the masters of the universe film.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
That was pretty far out, wasn't it? Dolph Lundgren as He-Man. The cosmic key. What a load of shit. My mother took me to see that, way back in the day and she still hates me for it. Still brings it up. Thinking back, though, it's not hard to see why an adult would find that film hard to deal with.

Check out this astonishing piece of dialogue from Skeletor.

quote:
Skeletor: People of Eternia! I stand before the Great Eye of the galaxy. Chosen by destiny by the powers of Greyskull! This inevitable moment will transpire before your eyes, even as He-Man himself bears witness to it. Now. I, Skeletor, am Master of the Universe! YES! Yes... I feel it, the power... fills me. Yes, I feel the universe within me! I am... I am a part of the cosmos! The power flows... Flows through me! Of what consequence are you now? This planet, these people. They are NOTHING to me! The universe is power! Real, unstoppable POWER! and I am that force! I am that power! KNEEL BEFORE YOUR MASTER! Fool! you are no longer my EQUAL! I am more than man! MORE THAN LIFE! I... am... a... GOD! Now. You... will... KNEEEEEL! KNEEEEL!
Now, think about this. An actual grown man wrote that dialogue. Probably older than you and I. He sat down and another group of adult businessmen paid him to come up with that. He would have been sat at his study, maybe under a shelf of screenplays and plays including Chinatown, Death of a Salesman and The Alchemist, and after endless cups of tea, and hours and hours of work, he would like back at his typewriter sheets and that's what he would see. Imagine being that man. Holding that in your hands and looking back at those words, shaking your head. What went wrong? Why did God have to impale you on a branch so low down the talent tree? Then just picture having the courage to send that into the studio. The mix of relief/ fear as it got made into a film. The fact that people who knew you would be going to watch it. People who mocked you at school for wanting to be a writer would be hearing that dialogue. It just doesn'tbear thinking about.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yeah, that's heavy. That whole film is a heavy scene.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I think it's powerful. It's the sort of thing I long to say to my co-workers.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
it's what I say to louise during sex.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
I had a poster of Dolph Lungdren in his He-Man costume when I was wee. I don't know why my parents permitted it.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
guitar hero just turned up. Nobody was impressed when I fake-rocked out to show it off to my colleagues. It's like toy guitars aren't awesome.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Louche:
I had a poster of Dolph Lungdren in his He-Man costume when I was wee. I don't know why my parents permitted it.

That's an interesting question and one I was pondering on the over day. Not why you use to wee when you looked at your poster, but because they were saying that Bratz toys were turning 3 year olds into dirty little slut hos. I mean, that's got to be bullshit, hasn't it? I had loads of he-man toys and I didn't start parading about in furry pants, down steroids and wear my hair business at the front and party at the back. For it was fantasy.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I don't doubt that it could be less easy to isolate children from the adult world of commerce, violence, and sex today than it was in the seventies, but I don't think it's the Bratz that are doing it. Those toys will just reflect what kids want, and what kids want is going to be fuelled by a much more general intake of all available stimulae.

But it's true that 3 olds these days are little whores. You should see them all hanging around near the end of my road. I've called the police more than once, but they're all like whatever dude.
 
Posted by guitargirl (Member # 1217) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
guitar hero just turned up. Nobody was impressed when I fake-rocked out to show it off to my colleagues. It's like toy guitars aren't awesome.

They are obviously dead inside! Burn them with fire I say.

Is is gh1 or 2 you have?

(ohh have you seen the Explorer for the 360?? yum!)

Im still bashing through unlocking on expert at the mo, got as far as unlocking to the last set (not a chance at Cowboys from hell me thinks) on GH1 and on GH2 Tattooed love boys is fucking me up a bit..

It pisses me off becuase some of GH2 on expert I can whizz through in the harder sets but some of the easier ones fuck me right up.

But Im very excited to say I can get as far as 73% on Freebird Expert with hyperspeed.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
But it's true that 3 olds these days are little whores. You should see them all hanging around near the end of my road. I've called the police more than once, but they're all like whatever dude.

The filth know full well there's fuck all they can do about the under-fives.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
 -

[Eek!]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
that's what steering wheels will look like in the year 2048.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by guitargirl:
But Im very excited to say I can get as far as 73% on Freebird Expert with hyperspeed.

I picked up Guitar Hero 2 for the ps2 for about 10 minutes and couldn't control the damn thing AT ALL. I kept crashing over the edge, or driving into rocks, and then got sort of stuck in the sky, rotating. I have to say I hope that Guitar Hero for the xbox 360 is easier.
 
Posted by guitargirl (Member # 1217) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
quote:
Originally posted by guitargirl:
But Im very excited to say I can get as far as 73% on Freebird Expert with hyperspeed.

I picked up Guitar Hero 2 for the ps2 for about 10 minutes and couldn't control the damn thing AT ALL. I kept crashing over the edge, or driving into rocks, and then got sort of stuck in the sky, rotating. I have to say I hope that Guitar Hero for the xbox 360 is easier.
Ya crazy devil!

How will the 360 controller be any different or easier? You still need 5 frets and a whammy bar etc..
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
my wrist hurts and my hand is still shaking after about five hours of playing last night. It's good. Killing in the Name is especially enjoyable.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I started playing Tiger Woods on the Wii. It's fucking difficult, I've got a lot of work to do on my grip if I'm going to eliminate my tendency to slice.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
my wrist hurts and my hand is still shaking after about five hours of playing last night. It's good. Killing in the Name is especially enjoyable.

I just can't get my head round the appeal of Guitar Hero over playing a real instrument. Excepting the solo, Killing In The Name Of is a pretty simple song that takes about three hours to master on a real instrument. Surely that's much more satisfying? It worries me a bit, because it's the sort of thing my dad would say, but while it seems understandable to play games that let you go into gun battles, drive performance cars, kill pedestrians, why on earth would you play this game that's like a retard's version of a real life hobby you could do in the same space, wiht the same investment of time, with a more exciting result?
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Is this guitar simulation exactly the same as playing a real guitar then? I assumed it was for people who couldn't be bothered to learn the real thing. Just press the C Major button occasionally when the 'PRESS THE C MAJOR BUTTON NOW AND GET THE GROUPIES, ROCKSTAR!' message pops up and the machine plays the rest while you dance around your flat pretending to be Fuck, the lead guitarist from Whores and Bastards.

[ 11.04.2007, 05:42: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Yeah, that's the gist of it. The controller looks like one of those Fisher Price guitars that make an electronic beep when you press the buttons on the fretboard. I mean, that's basically what the whole thing is about.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
 -

Imagine an actual 30 year old man playing that. Really, just picture it in your mind for a moment. Imagine going back in time about 15 years and showing someone, maybe yourself, a picture of that guitar toy and then trying to convince that person from the past that a 30 year old man would be playing with that after a hard day at work.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
At some point during our lifetimes somebody or something broke the future.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I'm amazed that anyone would consider this to be some kind of 'coup' that it's not on PS3.

Yes..
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Even though everyone else from Dirtbox seemed to think Tilde was the shittest one, I've actually laughed at alot of its posts - including that one.

I might try pitching a novel-writing game, where you have a keyboard with five keys representing "noun, adjective, verb, adverb, preposition", that people can bash with their fists when prompted and simulate writing a real-world bestseller, for which they then get applause from computer generated characters. Watch forums get filled up with posts like "Man, last night I almost nnailed To Kill A Mockingbird on the 'One off flash of genius' setting.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
I'm amazed that anyone would consider this to be some kind of 'coup' that it's not on PS3.

Yes..

Yes but with the PS3 they probably will have a USB interface to a 3,5" jack to plug into a real guitar, and then once you have mastered the licks on the highest level, it will ressurect Jimi Hendrix in your own front room to bestow your Guitar God status in person and give you James Hetfield's private phone number so you can do the next tour for him when he next enters rehab. For the PS3 is that good....
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I suppose it's different to somebody sitting in their room learning to play a real guitar because in guitar hero you have global leaderboard points, a kind of cartoony career mode, unlockable and purchasable content, a 'simulation' of playing actual gigs, varying levels of difficulty, a control system that is NOT a guitar, etc. The best way to think of it is that it's not playing the guitar, it's playing a computer game.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
In the future, you'll be able to play computer games on guitars. That will be interesting.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
 -

July 2012 and Possessed Sue finally gets her hands on Sony's new PS23.

[ 11.04.2007, 07:03: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
In the future all children will be living vessels for evil spirits. That will be interesting.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
a control system that is NOT a guitar, etc. The best way to think of it is that it's not playing the guitar, it's playing a computer game.

I dunno, man. There's something about the title of the game that makes me think the guitar part is quite a big factor. Maybe it's the word 'hero', or something, but I'm definitely getting the feeling that the game is really about fulfilling 'I can play that song!' fantasies for people who - unfathomably - can't be fucked to dedicate a similiar amount of time to actually doing that thing. There's something about the controller that suggests that to me, too. Something about the way it's different to the normal XBox controller. It looks familiar, somehow... like it's supposed to represent something other than a games controller.

[ 11.04.2007, 07:12: Message edited by: Nathan Bleak ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Why do real vacuuming when you could buy one of these for just £16.74:

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As you can see, it looks like a small version of a real Dyson vacuum cleaner. Marvel at the colourful plastic balls that bounce around in the 'cyclone enclosure' as you push the unit back and forth across the floor.

ETA: I've heard that there's a bluetooth version coming out shortly for PS3. It'll be packaged with a game of Japanese origin, by the name of Total Hyper Suck-Suck Party™ 2

[ 11.04.2007, 07:46: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
you have a keyboard... that people can bash with their fists when prompted... for which they then get applause from computer generated characters.

Th-that's... that's TMO, isn't it?
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
*applause*
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
Is this it?
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Is this... what?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
a control system that is NOT a guitar, etc. The best way to think of it is that it's not playing the guitar, it's playing a computer game.

I dunno, man. There's something about the title of the game that makes me think the guitar part is quite a big factor. Maybe it's the word 'hero', or something,
This leap though, from a game with a guitar as a motif and actually playing a real guitar, considering the difference in experience, seems too great for me. You're drawing a direct relationship between a fantasy (a controller that represents a guitar within the game you are playing) and reality (an actual guitar, that has no relation to the game) based on language and gestures - ie, yes the controller is designed to evoke the perception of guitar playing, but then this is used as a base for a game that isn't playing the guitar. It's a rhythm game, like dance dance revolution. I can't believe that you can't see this. I mean, this all stems from the age old anti-gaming thing of gaming experiences being less authentic than real life, when in reality gaming will only draw inspiration from the themes and subjects of real life. Playing a rhythm game is nothing like playing the guitar. You're not playing notes, you're not creating anything, you're trying to beat a pre-set challenge within a gaming framework / narrative. The satisfaction comes from the challenge - surely a real guitar is more about the direct result of twanging the strings, and the ability to interact freely with the equipment?


Is there some sense that people who play this game are lazy, or cheating, or somehow degrading the experience of playing the guitar, simply because the game draws inspiration from common perceptions of the experience of being a guitarist in a rock band?

[ 11.04.2007, 08:39: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
Is this... what?

It.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
I mean, this all stems from the age old anti-gaming thing of gaming experiences being less authentic than real life, when in reality gaming will only draw inspiration from the themes and subjects of real life.
I think that in some instances that argument has merit. Like here. The game seems to strive incredibly hard to fulfil the fantasy of playing kick ass rock songs on the guitar - the shape of the controller, to the point where it's not simply drawing inspiration from a theme of real life, it's trying to mirror it in a simplified - or genuinely retarded way - and therefore making it absolutely less of an experience.

quote:
Playing a rythmn game is nothing like playing the guitar. You're not playing notes, you're not creating anything, you're trying to beat a pre-set challenge within a gaming framework / narrative. The satisfaction comes from the challenge - surely a real guitar is more about the direct result of twanging the strings, and the freedom to interact freely with the equipment?

I don't think the basic ruleset of Guitar Hero II is 'nothing like' playing a real instrument - rhythm - obviously - is a factor in both, and when you're playing someone else's songs it's really about making sure you're hitting the right bits at the right times, and the satisfaction comes - as with the game - in nailing those predetermined structures. Maybe this is the thing - I don't see the game a completely different, but instead like a simplified baby version of a real life pursuit; not something that takes inspiration from real life and builds on it in an imaginative way, but a way of mirroring a real life hobby and retarding it to make it accessible.

quote:
Is there some sense that people who play this game are lazy, or cheating, or somehow degrading the experience of playing the guitar, simply because the game draws inspiration from common perceptions of the experience of being a guitarist in a rock band?

I think there's a sense that the game is an embarrassment to computer gaming because - as you point out - it makes real the criticism that games are a shitter version of real world pursuits. It's the way it simplifies it down and then makes a virtue out of the fact that not only is it easier but you also get instant rewards and pats on the head that you wouldn't get if you did this in the real world. Other than this silly window dressing, it doesn't add anything to the experience, it doesn't make it fantastical, it just tries hard to ape it. It makes me ashamed to play computer games.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jonesy999:
In the future, you'll be able to play computer games on guitars. That will be interesting.

 -
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Thing is, it'd probably be very different if there were a version of the game into which you plugged your actual real life guitar, and learnt to play various rock tracks for real. That would be really good in fact.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
I'm sure they could set up a valid music training gaming with a keyboard interface. Like you'd have to keep playing a boogie-woogie rhythm with your left hand to keep moving, and then you'd play different melodies with your right hand to fire different weapons or jump or whatever you have to make one lot of pixels do in order to make another lot of pixels do something else very noisily.

You'd suddenly have loads of hip dude Jools Hollands all over the place.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I'm liking that idea a lot actually. Games which help you learn to play an instrument. You could also have online play where you can jam online with people around the world. That would be an absolutely brilliant idea.

It would be worth learning an instrument just to be able to do that.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
I'm liking that idea a lot actually. Games which help you learn to play an instrument.

Yeah - that would be really good. It seems like something that's so obvious you can hardly understand why it hasn't been done. Like one of those "Learn to play Rock Guitar!" DVDs but properly interactive. I'll take two copies of "Ringo's Drum Training", please.

I think the makers of Benway's guitar hero game are planning to make a Rock Band version, where you play on line with people around the world. But, again I think that's with the Fisher Price toys, rather than real instruments.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I know there's a big project going on here at the moment involving looking at how computer games and computer games technology can be integrated into education. I know they've been looking at things like Second Life because of its versatility. I've mentioned this to one of the chaps (actually my brother in law) who is vaguely involved in the project.

You're right though, it does seem so ridiculously obvious that it's hard to work out why it hasn't happened already.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
[QUOTE]The game seems to strive incredibly hard to fulfil the fantasy of playing kick ass rock songs on the guitar - the shape of the controller, to the point where it's not simply drawing inspiration from a theme of real life, it's trying to mirror it in a simplified - or genuinely retarded way - and therefore making it absolutely less of an experience.

I think that the game certainly draws on the fantasy, but in no way fulfils it. Having played both guitar hero and guitars in the past, I can safely say that there's no correlation between my experience of the two things. Guitar playing for me wasn't a frustrating points driven against-the-clock fantasy based rhythm game, but involved me patiently sitting on my bed, playing the same notes to nirvana songs. Which is not what I was doing in guitar hero. Of course there is an element of learning patterns and sequences, but surely this is just game playing in general?

Your argument is that playing guitar hero is an inferior dumbed down version of playing the guitar. What I'm saying is that while guitar hero might not be as fufilling as playing the actual guitar, it's not a comparable experience.

quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:

I don't think the basic ruleset of Guitar Hero II is 'nothing like' playing a real instrument - rhythm - obviously - is a factor in both, and when you're playing someone else's songs it's really about making sure you're hitting the right bits at the right times, and the satisfaction comes - as with the game - in nailing those predetermined structures. Maybe this is the thing - I don't see the game a completely different, but instead like a simplified baby version of a real life pursuit; not something that takes inspiration from real life and builds on it in an imaginative way, but a way of mirroring a real life hobby and retarding it to make it accessible.

This to me seems like quite a sad way of thinking about the guitar as an instrument. While I admit I didn't get past the stage of copying songs that I liked on the actual guitar, the overall enjoyment I got out wasn't in being able to 'beat' the challenge of getting them just right - the enjoyment was hearing me play and realising that I'm playing the song, that I have control, that these are my notes now. Yes, there was a challenge to overcome, but that's not where the satisfaction came from. You could say that satisfaction comes from being good, getting better, learning and improving, but again, any game involves that. Guitar hero is purely about that - you don't 'play' the notes. When you hit the buttons, nothing comes out unless you're doing it according to what's on screen. There's no chance to experiment or to make your own songs, which are integral elements to playing a real guitar. Just because guitar hero features timing and patterns and a fake plastic guitar doesn't instantly make it a poor substitute for playing the guitar. That seems so... unimaginative? Like there's no space allowed between objective reality and fantasy.


quote:
I think there's a sense that the game is an embarrassment to computer gaming because - as you point out - it makes real the criticism that games are a shitter version of real world pursuits. It's the way it simplifies it down and then makes a virtue out of the fact that not only is it easier but you also get instant rewards and pats on the head that you wouldn't get if you did this in the real world. Other than this silly window dressing, it doesn't add anything to the experience, it doesn't make it fantastical, it just tries hard to ape it. It makes me ashamed to play computer games.

Again, it's sad that you can be embarrased by computer games. But I understand that you haven't played this game, so it's harder for you to comment on it. I accept that. But to me, this attitude that 'fun' is something to be sneered and scoffed at, and fantasy should be belittled if there is a more 'worthy' (according to your false comparison) direct alternative seems pretty miserable, and untrue. Any fiction offers you a chance to engage in a fantasy situation. I suppose the degree to which you'll allow yourself to engage with fantasy and fiction depends how seriously you take yourself, how you see life, all that kind of thing that we probably shouldn't go into. Surely the point of a game is gaining rewards easier than in life? Should games always be hard, painful slogs? Rewards always gained after blood sweat and tears? Always? Last night, after a few hours, when I found myself getting into it, getting better, going for perfect scores, gaining achievement points, unlocking songs and characters and environments, and rising to increasing challenges was pure escapism and mesmerising fun. So tell me how I'm wrong to enjoy this. There's clearly something wrong with me here.

[ 11.04.2007, 09:53: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
I know there's a big project going on here at the moment involving looking at how computer games and computer games technology can be integrated into education. I know they've been looking at things like Second Life because of its versatility. I've mentioned this to one of the chaps (actually my brother in law) who is vaguely involved in the project.

I'm involved in that kind of thing at work. My job is 50 - 75% researching and developing learning games at the moment. It's fun until you spend a week evaluating the level of immersion in management accounts simulators.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I'm sure I remember playing a MIDI based game for learning piano, back in the '80s. The graphics were crap, but the concept was excellent.

The good thing about MIDI is that it can provide information about which key(s) have been pressed, how hard, and for how long. So you can easily pass all the information from the instrument to the computer / console.

I think it would be possible to attach a cheap USB keyboard like the one below, but whoever made the game would obviously make a "cool" looking peripheral and charge £££ for it.
 -

I imagine it would be more difficult with a real guitar, violin, tuba, etc, as you'd need some pretty sophisticated pitch detection, but with a suitable microphone or pickup attachment, even that shouldn't be a problem for the current crop of magickal-multi-core consoles.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
I imagine it would be more difficult with a real guitar, violin, tuba, etc, as you'd need some pretty sophisticated pitch detection, but with a suitable microphone or pickup attachment, even that shouldn't be a problem for the current crop of magickal-multi-core consoles.

Singstar does a good job of it, on the PS2. That was really accurate.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
Oh man, I don't suppose anyone saw that programme about 80s heavy metal band Saxon last night? It was a reality TV thing where Harvey Goldsmith tries to resurrect hopelessly over-the-hill careers. I only saw the last 15 minutes but it included this stunning bit where they were trying to break the world Air Guitar record by going on at half-time at a Sheffield United football match and playing some cool metal music while the entire crowd Air Guitarred along to the cool sounds.

If you want to see the most embarrassing real-life Spinal Tap episode in history then try and find that clip. The crowd were a) sports fans, b) pissed off because they were 2-0 down at half time, c) baying for the blood of a load of middle aged twats with long hair playing music which was shite even when it was popular 25 years ago (apart from Wheels Of Steel of course).

The camera managed to find one 8-year-old in the crowd playing Air Guitar for a piss take. Absolutely everyone else appeared to be going for the world Air Wanker Sign record.

I just hope Harry Hill was watching. Could be the basis for his whole programme this week.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
I had actually wanted to watch that, but forgotten with the hype over Life on Mars.

Don't know if that was a good thing or a bad thing.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
It was 747 coming down in the night TV.
 
Posted by Harlequin (Member # 454) on :
 
By the way what about online computer games? There are loads of them about and you don't have to pay for them. You can also compete against other users on the internet.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Pointless retort

[ 12.04.2007, 03:33: Message edited by: Waynster ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
new Ouendan is out in a month. I pre-ordered mine, and I know that most people here on TMO are fans of the adorable j-pop ryhthms presented in the first game.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
anyway, in response to the question I posed nearly a year ago, I'm currently still playing Puzzle Quest because it's horribly addictive, and Guitar Hero, because I'm some kind of spakky retard. Finished medium setting (albeit with mostly 3/5 star ratings) and now attempting hard but, it's kicking my arse now. I still have trouble with the idea that it only registers the button that's being pressed on the farthest right of the neck, but I think I need to grasp this to be able to move fast enough between buttons. Orange button sucks.

Ordered the new Ouendan, and am patiently waiting for Paper Mario so I can use the Wii for something other than youtube.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm on the final boss on Puzzle Quest now! But I can't beat it until I've levelled up a couple of times and forged some new armour. Still, it'll feel good to finish it. Also I managed to get a perfect song on Guitar Hero last night - the easiest one in the game.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I played a bit of Lost Planet on Saturday evening. It's good fun, really pretty and quite engaging, but so far it feels pretty thin. It suffers in comparison to Gears of War, because the combat really doesn't require much strategy - it's a really simple blaster. It does what it does well, but there's nothing to mark it out as any kind of classic.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Also! Hello Benway. Looks like it's just you and me today.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Hello Nathan. How are you?
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I'm alright, man. I felt pretty fucked up yesterday from lack of sleep, but I feel pretty focussed today. I'm learning about how to design an intensive care unit. Looks pretty intimidating. It's at times like these I wish I hadn't lied about having a degree in architecture. I guess I'll just have to jot a few drawings down on a napkin and hope no-one dies.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
sounds even heavier than that time you designed an orphanage.

I'm tired today - the italians downstairs took a shower together at about 1am, and with the shower right by my window, I was treated to 45 mins of echoey italian laughter and jabbering. Lovely.

Then I come in and I've got to read on some stuff for a meeting this afternoon, and then a vendor is coming in tomorrow and I'm supposed to be leading design for our team, so I should be reasearching, but instead I'm reading up about Narcissistic Personality Disorder and diagnosing my friends with various degrees of it.

Did you ever sign up for XBLA?

[ 24.04.2007, 06:04: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I say 'friends', but really they're just people that I use to elevate myself to deserved heights of infinite adulation.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Christ, I think I've got a pretty bad case of that personality disorder. I ticked off pretty much all of the symptoms. I wonder what triggered it?

No I haven't signed up to XBL at all - as the wireless network seemed so unreliable I couldn't be fucked.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Just wanted to say that was an awesome game of Gears of War we had last night Nathan. You really covered my back well. See you again tonight and we'll destroy some more Americans?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Yeah you'll need a wired connection.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SilverGinger5:
Just wanted to say that was an awesome game of Gears of War we had last night Nathan. You really covered my back well. See you again tonight and we'll destroy some more Americans?

Yeah... ha... ha... good joke there - make it look like I just don't want to play with Jimmy lol.

(probably busy tonight and I want to get some sniper practice in. some of those moments were more luck than judgement).
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
pathetic.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
If I had a 360 and GoW then I'd play with you, Jimmy.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
pathetic.

Sorry. My NPD was playing up.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I don't have Gears of War anyway.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Sod you then. Although I may be buying another 360 soonish, as Forza Motorsport 2 is coming out and I need it. We can be buddies then if you like. I think my xboxlive name was illegal panther.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
ok.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Here is an incentive to never play Guitar Hero ever again. An eight year old child much better than any human should be able to be at this game. And he does the devil sign as well. I wish I was that cool when I was eight but with a better haircut.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
autistic.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Yeah he thinks he's great with his guitar skills - let's see him process a metaphor or deal with emotion and change...
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
That's quite possibly the worst example of anything that I've ever seen. WTF is the point of that? "I missed three notes." Four words that remove any possible remote association with music from this, as you say, autistic demonstration of button wanking.

Partially redeemed by the brilliant retardity of the comments:
code:
i picked up guitar when i was 15 and only took a year to get good. not slash good but still good.

Slash?!? [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
that's pretty impressive.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
How can you call that impressive? Only yesterday you were saying how pointless it was to try and be good at anything.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
lol, I'm pretty sure that Nathan is Jimmy's internal monologue.

[ 27.04.2007, 05:08: Message edited by: Tilde ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
It's impressive because what he's doing doesn't even look physically possible. That's got no real bearing on my lack of competitive spirit has it?
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Well, you know I was thinking about this comment, on the thread yesterday where you tried to outlaw both excitement and achievement, where you say you don't see the benefit of being the good at something, unless you can make money from it (not a particularly convincing point to begin with).

quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I don't see the benefit of coming first. I know that you could potentially get money if you get really really good at something, but I've never really considered that to be in scope.

Given that it's unlikely in the extreme that this kid will actually make money from playing Guitar Hero II well... what do you find impressive about it? I mean - if you don't see any benefit in doing something any better than anyone else can do it?
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
It's impressive because what he's doing doesn't even look physically possible.

It looks a hell of a lot more physically possible than something like this for example.

Not that I'm praising piano wanking any more than button wanking, but y'know, just making a point.

Also, why do all YouTube videos have out of sync sound and vision? It's not a technical issue with video clips because they're fine on, say, films I've taken with my digital camera.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I can see what you're saying here. But your argument seems a bit twisted.

We were talking about the desire to win, to come first. I didn't say at any point that I didn't think passion was good, what I was said was that I try and keep it inside rather than go on about the things I'm into.

So, I didn't suggest that it was pointless for anybody to be good at anything or like anything, but instead that I don't feel desire to win, and while I can see other people do love to win and to be the best, I don't have a drive towards that myself. This does not negate my chance of appreciating when somebody is really techincal proficient at something to the point where it exceeds what I thought was possible. So, you know, I was thinking about what might motivate me to want to win something, to get really good and beat everybody, and I thought that maybe money might motivate me.

I don't really want to keep going on about this, but if it helps nathan, I'm not trying to suggest that other people are wrong to want to win or excel. Didn't mean to annoy you.

[ 27.04.2007, 05:47: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Well. It's too late for that now.

[ 27.04.2007, 05:50: Message edited by: Nathan Bleak ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
Well. It's too late for sorry now.

no need - I'm not going to hold it against you. One day you'll get me good, nathan. One day my whole empire will be brought down once you find that crack, that weak point in my economy of lies. This is not that time. Stay vigilant.

[ 27.04.2007, 05:56: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
You disgust me.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
face it - we need each other.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Lol
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
Astonishingly I've just come across something even more synthetically futile than Guitar Hero, in which you don't have a guitar and you're not a hero. One of my boys has been invited to Laser Clay Pigeon Shooting. This sounds like crap observational stand-up material. How many words in the phrase "Laser Clay Pigeon Shooting" are redundant? They invented "clay pigeons" so people could practice shooting shotguns without having to have real pigeons to hand. So that was basically "clay shooting". Only one redundant word in "clay pigeon shooting". But with "Laser Clay Pigeon Shooting" there is presumably no pigeon, no shotgun and (I suspect) no clay. A more accurate name would perhaps be Laser Pointing.
 
Posted by missgolightly (Member # 34) on :
 
God dang, oh course there'd be no clay! I'm glad people have finally understood the plight of the poor, defenseless clay pigeon, and done something about it.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
I suspect no clay.

You do use a clay in Laser Clay Pigeon Pointing, otherwise... what would you know to point the gun at? It's got a kind of reflective band on it so the shot 'registers' and you get points. They had it at a press launch I was at one time. It's true that it is a kind of a crippled version of proper clay pigeon shooting, but it means it can be used as a sideshow thing at a boozy corporate function without the risk of drunk and clumsy people shotgunning each other to death.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
nathan I got crackdown so now we can do some co-op play.My gamertag is Finsbury78.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
That could work. I'm on the final bosses now and I could use a good bullet sponge.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I've tried that russian chick in the mine a couple of times and died both times. Second time round I found the cave where she was hiding, poked my head round the corner and the whole thing exploded, killing me instantly.
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
After rather enjoying beating the crap out of passers by playing The Godfather at Thorn's at the weekend, I went out and bought a Wii last night. Can't recall which of you other than Thorn have one so if you fancy kicking my ass at Wii Sports let me know.

Bought Red Steel with it, great game, took a bit of getting used to aiming with the remote but once I got the hang of it the controls seem impressively intuitive.

Just hope they're bringing out a good cricket game for it, the remote is tailor made for it..
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
At the moment I'm playing this version of Tetris. I quite like the 'quick drop' feature. Simple pleasures and all that.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
bad news brother. Wii sports isn't internet enabled.
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
bad news brother. Wii sports isn't internet enabled.

bugger, ah well, if anyone fancies a co-op game of Red Steel or Zelda then, unless you're going to tell me they're not web enabled either? Haven't had a chance to check to be honest..
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
you've got it. Only one game so far is internet enabled. Pokemon. Not out in the UK yet as far as I know.
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
you've got it. Only one game so far is internet enabled. Pokemon. Not out in the UK yet as far as I know.

Hmm, that sucks. Ah well...
 
Posted by Fionnula the Cooler (Member # 453) on :
 
Mario Strikers Charged will be the first online multiplayer game here, I think. Out May 25th, apparently. For some reason we're getting it before the US. Maybe because it's shit.
 
Posted by squirrelandgman (Member # 201) on :
 
I can't stop playing Winning Eleven(Pro Evo). It's terrible. It's humiliating. I am getting routinely anhialated by Japanese, Korean and Hong Kong teenagers. I can't win. Ever.
I can't even score.
I should stop playing. It hurts my hand because the 360 controller D-pad is shit.
It causes physical and mental pain. Fucking idiot.

I have been playing a lot of rock, paper, scissors as well and I am pretty good against 8 year olds.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I've not played on my wii in ages so I thought I'd put it up for sale. I put it up for £150 which I think is a reasonable price considering it's got so many virtual console games on it.

Within 2 minutes of putting the notice up on the intranet at work, it's sold. I should have asked for more money.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yeah I think it'll be another six months before we see the truly awesome games coming out for the Wii. After launch I suppose it's common to have a dry spell while developers get their heads around what the public wants from the machine. Xbox360 had the same thing, and now the Playstation3 seems to be just recycling old 360 games.

[ 03.05.2007, 04:53: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Although I'm not playing mine much at the moment there is no way I'm going to sell it.

Out this year we should have Metroid Prime 3, Smash Brothers Brawl, Mario Galaxy, Paper Mario (already out in US/Japan), Fire Emblem, Mario Strikers, Trauma Centre and Manhunt 2 which are the ones just off the top of my head that I definitely want to play.

This is of course assuming that I can stop playing warcraft long enough to get into any of them (have managed 2 rounds of golf in tiger woods since getting it due to being addicted to this stupid game)
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
there's not much about for any system at the moment. Even my beloved DS seems to be in a drought. Apart from Pokemon, which I still feel a bit awkward about.

At the moment the Wii is mostly just youtube / email on the TV. I've not been impressed with any of the virtual console stuff, not when compared to how brilliantly the xbox360 is doing retro gaming.

[ 03.05.2007, 05:12: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I've enjoyed Godfather for the Wii a great deal - probably the game I've played most. But the XBox still gets the lion's share of attention. I finally signed up to Xbox live last night. Benway (Shit-Earth Benway) should even have a fiend request pending. Downloaded Street Fighter II and remembered just how shite I was at it. Couldn't get off the first level. Then got addicted to some stupid puzzle game called Hexics, which was just... fucking... Like Tetris it's no fun, but you can't stop playing. Mostly, though, I've been back on Crackdown.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
hey, let's play some games together then! Do you have GRAW? Maybe I should get GoW again so we can play on that too.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
He's lying Big Nuts....

[Frown]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I do have GRAW, but it confuses me a bit. I was quite up for some 2 player Crackdown, too. The games I've got are...

Dead Rising
Saints Row
Ghost Reconnaissance: Advanced Whorefighter
Gears of War
Crackdown
Perfect Dark Zero (TOTAL SHIT DO NOT BUY THIS NOT EVEN FOR 2 PLAYER)
Lost PLanet
Burnout Revenge
Dead or Alive 4
Splinter Cell: Double Agent

Also, tonight my wife is out canvassing for votes or some such shit, so I should be 'around' until about 8.30, at least.

[ 03.05.2007, 05:24: Message edited by: Nathan Bleak ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
okay, a bit of crackdown then. I'll be around all night, from about 6.30 onwards.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 


[ 03.05.2007, 05:37: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tilde:
He's lying Big Nuts....

[Frown]

 -

[Smile]

[ 03.05.2007, 06:00: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
I can highly recommend Legend of Zelda : Twilight Princess on the Wii, played it last night and it's superb - nice graphics, nice mix of combat and puzzles, and great use of the controller.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Just had a read through of the new Kane and Lynch preview at Gamespot. Looks pretty impressive, especially the extent to which they're focussing on character and the effect that has on the game. Suprised and disappointed that the co-op is likely to be offline only - would have enjoyed playing with Benway as Lynch who, it says here, is schizophrenic, sees occasionally sees innocents the same as enemies, and feels more powerful the more people he kills.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I'm really looking forward to Spider-man 3 collector's edition. The other two haven't really grabbed my interest so much, but I'm a sucker for Venom and would like to sling webs and beat up bad guys with a high definition black suit. Also, commentary by Bruce Campbell FTW.

Anyone got any idea of the release date? Gamespot just say May..
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Comes out tomorrow, Ringo.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
can't be better than doing the double hook shot stuff in Zelda on the Wii.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I don't know about that. Still, I can get my grappling hook fix when I get Tomb Raider: Anniversary.

May is shaping up to be a reasonable month in terms of computer game releases. I should have plenty to play once I've finished Tony Hawk

[ 03.05.2007, 08:39: Message edited by: Ringo ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
hey nathan - crackdown is about to be beefed up in a pretty major way
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Good-o. I like Crackdown, although i agree with what you said about it being a shame you can't really live in the world. It's more like a playground.

I discovered the co-op missions on Graw the other day, so next time we're both on Live, we could give them a go, rather than waiting ten minutes to join a match that crashes on start-up.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
sure, okay. When do you want to try that?

I finished crackdown the other day. There's still loads of vehicle achievements I could get but... I don't know. There's no fun to be had in driving.

[ 10.05.2007, 11:18: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I now have Tomb Raider: Anniversary on pre-order. Unfortunately they pushed the date back to June 1st. Still, watching the videos and trailers makes me very excited. Tomb Raider was like a real turning point for me, when I started to realise that games weren't just something you picked up for an hour or two and enjoyed then never bothered with again. It was the first time I sat down with a game for hours on end, finding myself looking at the clock and wondering where the evening had gone, or sitting in the small hours of the morning repeatedly playing through the same bit of level almost gnawing the TV with frustration at failing at the same part over and over again. Yeah, I loved Tomb Raider, and Tomb Raider 2. After that they got shit until Legend. This is a new reason to get excited about Tomb Raider.
 
Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
 
I lovelovelove Tomb Raider. What's up with this Anniversary edition?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
It's basically a remake of the first Tomb Raider by the people who made Legend. But not just the original game with new graphics, apparently all the levels and puzzles have been revamped to take advantage of Lara's new moves etc etc. Lots more content, better graphics... I'm not a huge fan of remakes of anything, but this makes me very very excited. The only other remake that would get me this excited would be if they actually did remake FFVII for the PS3. Still maintain it's the best RPG ever.

[ 12.05.2007, 04:10: Message edited by: Ringo ]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
sure, okay. When do you want to try that?

I meant to log on at some point this weekend, but I got sucked in by Marvel Ultimate Alliance, which I spent a truly ridiculous amount of time playing. I can't remember the last time I spent 20+ hours on the same game with only reluctant breaks for food and sleep. It's so addictive and when you get bored of playing the same characters you can just swap them out and start levelling up some new dudes with a bunch of different characters. Although I was disappointed at how shit Blade was I did end up in delirious laughter at Mr Fantastic's devastating Wheeling Spastic Arms attack, and the unspeakable carnage it wreaks. It's a lovely, good looking game with a real sense of value. I was playing it on the X-Box but I think there's a Wii version - I heartily recommend it to Black Mask and Physic who I think both enjoyed the X-Men Legends games by the same team.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I started and finished Trace Memory for the DS. Fans of the nintendo DS should -


- ah, never mind.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
I've just finished Family Guy the PSP game.

T'was Okay I guess..

Now back to playing Outrun.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I've just started playing Ghost Recon: Advanced Whorefighter on the Personal Computer. Apparently it's quite different to the console version. I'm somewhat out of practise with this sort of game so I'm finding it pretty tough, especially without the option of quicksaves, but I'm enjoying it nonetheless.

I'm also dipping in to Just Cause (dumb fun) and Prey (nice graphics, reasonable gameplay) when time permits.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
I heartily recommend it to Black Mask.

Nathan, it might be nice if occasionally you tried to pay attention to what people say on this forum and remember it to save redundant posts like that one.

Perhaps you could save a copy of all threads to your hard drive and study them in the evenings?

quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
I ordered Wii Play, Marvel Ultimate Alliance and Rayman Raving Rabbids, as well. I need to get another nunchuck. Wahhh!

quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Rayman Raving Rabbids on the Wii has me laughing like a big stupid child. Losing sleep over Marvel Ultimate Alliance.


 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Fuck. I must have f-forgotten. I feel a bit sickened, now. If I've forgotten that, who knows what else might have slipped my mind? [Frown]
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Darryn.R:
I've just finished Family Guy the PSP game.

T'was Okay I guess..

Now back to playing Outrun.

I didn't know there was a family guy game - any chance I can borrow in m9?
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
yeah sure... femke's playing Ratchet and Clank on the PSP what she got for mothers day so she won't want it for a few weeks and I wouldn't mind a go on Tiger Woods golf...

I mailed you dude, cy gmail I
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Just got Elite Beat Agents. Fans of the DS will probably -


- of course, my mistake.
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
i heart benway gamespeak even though i'm not a gamer and don't reply. carry on, duder.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
played the Halo3 beta last night. Had one round. It's alright. Standard FPS fare.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I'm still pretty hooked on Kingdom of Loathing. I've ascended and am playing again as a Teetotaller born under the sign of the Platypus.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm mostly playing Lunar Knights and Elite Beat Agents at the moment, both on the DS. Ouendan 2 is on it's way from Japan as well, so I'm all about rythmn games at the moment. Although, Ouendan is just like a kiddie fisher price version of being a male cheerleader who solves dilemmas through the power of accurately timed motivational dance routines. It's the sort of thing that would embarrass thorn.

[ 18.05.2007, 06:24: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
Ouendan is just like a kiddie fischer price version of being a male cheerleader who solves dilemmas through the power of accurately timed motivational dance routines.

The Japanese are nuts, aren't they?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
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Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
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quote:
Mr Williams, who says he is speaking to lawyers about a possible claim for wrongful arrest
What the hell's wrong with this guy? He should be grateful he hasn't got 5 bullets in his skull like most firearms suspects.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Picked up PGR3 again on saturday night. I am so shit at that game.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I just did that thing where you go, hey, somebody just posted in games! So I went to look, but it was the post that I'd done 1 minute previously, and then forgotten about.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I hardly played any games this weekend - a complete waste. There was an hour or two of drunken Warioware on Sunday evening, but that was about it. Don't know where all the time went. I did spend a few hours learning to play Beethoven's Ode to Joy on the guitar, and then working it out with power chords, but it didn't sound nearly as impressive as I had hoped. Reading that back, it sounds like the kind of thing you would only do once you'd reached the absolute nadir of boredom, but it was quite fun.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I played a lot of games. PGR3, Castlevania, Elite Beat Agents, Lunar Knights, Halo3, Guitar Hero, (that nearly drove me insane trying to do the verse for the Woldmother track on Hard level) and demos for C&C3, Colin McCrae and Forza 2. There was nothing else to do but play games and eat bagels from the bagel shop. C&C3 is quite fun, but then I did online play and got my ass handed to me royally.

[ 29.05.2007, 06:20: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Forza 2 demo any good?

I picked up Kaido Racer 2 again which I hadn't played since around Christmas time, since reaching a bit of an impasse with one difficult race. Finally got past that race and spent all of sunday playing it. Great game, good fun, bit frustrating though.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
It's alright. Kind of like GTA.

edit: Not GTA! I mean Gran Turismo. I was reading something about GTA IV, which is why I wrote that.

[ 29.05.2007, 07:00: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I saw loads of people wetting themselves in anticipation and I wasn't really sure why. The first Forza is pretty good but it's not a classic or anything. Probably about the best GT clone available but nothing really holds a candle to Gran Turismo, except PC-based hardcore racing simulations like Live for Speed (which is still my most frequently played game)
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Gamespot just gave it a 9.2, which mean it's pretty fucking sweet. Better than GT4 anyway.

[ 30.05.2007, 05:20: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
GT4 was pretty poor though. Fantastic graphics for a PS2 game, stacks and stack of content, way more than any other game, but it's too big, too long, and the handling is all wrong. Plus it wasn't significantly improved in any particular way over GT3 A-spec, which I'd say is about as good as gran turismo ever got.

I hear from someone who has an advance copy of Forza 2 though, that the full game is considerably better than the demo. Graphics look stunning too.

Must resist buying 360..
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I'm quite tempted by the new Mortal Kombat game on the Wii at the moment, as ign have given it a pretty decent review. I might trade in something shit like Lost Planet and Perfect Dark for it, maybe.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Ringo - the GT-HD Demo- what do you make of the handling on that?

Also, dare I ask what your lap record is on that - I'm guessing sub 1'15" - I just want to know for next time I go in the Sony Store in town
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
The handling on GT:HD is better but there’s something I don’t like about it. It’s something that GT4 was guilty of to a slightly greater extent, but specifically the way the rear end reacts to oversteer, and the response of the steering. Turning in under braking is great, they’ve got that spot on. A little dab of braking at about 1/3 power just after you turn into the corner and the rear starts to slide nicely, just as it would on a normal car. Problem comes when you then apply the power and the car seems to straighten up, following a certain angle. It’s weird, hard to describe. If you’re able to, play GT3, it’s more or less perfect in terms of handling. You can tell it’s not as sophisticated as the later games but in terms of emulating the way a real car reacts, I’d say it’s as close as a console game has ever got.

Interestingly, GT4 was the first game to use a completely new physics engine, whereas the first three games (which had great handling) were all evolutions of the same phys eng. GT4 was where the handling all went wrong, and it’s where the physics were significantly overhauled.

I’m not sure what my fastest time is off the top of my head. I seem to recall in the modified GTR getting somewhere near 1.10 but I’m not sure. To be honest, I don’t find it that entertaining to play, other than simple eye candy. It’s just one track and really just ten cars, and driving around and around over and over by myself gets boring really quickly. Hence why I’ve gone back to playing Kaido Racer.

Oh, one other thing, if you do play GT3, don’t play it on the PS3. The analogue controller button emulation is awful, there’s no control at all over the pressure you can put onto the buttons. Unless you’re a stick man (I tried this and it’s still way too sensitive) you’ll find that there’s a lot less control than playing it on a PS2 with the proper dual shock 2 controller. Using the sixaxis on GT:HD is great, on the other hand, so it’s something about the emulation rather than the hardware. Something to do with the range of pressures or something, because I know the sixaxis has more degrees of movement in the sticks etc.

I sometimes wonder if being able to pick up on small things like this is some kind of indication that I spend far far too much time playing computer games.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
I sometimes wonder if being able to pick up on small things like this is some kind of indication that I spend far far too much time playing computer games.

...or that your knowledge could be a serious asset to a gaming company? Seriously mate, you should consider it.

I must admit GT-HD is eye candy, and the thing I use to show off the PS3. And having only just smidged under 1'20" I've got a lot of practicing to do before I can get within even just a few seconds of your time, but like you say, 10 cars and one track and its shelf-life is quite limited. However it does fill me with hope of what we can look forward to in future games - I still think a lot of the games I have are not really pushing the envelope of what the PS3 can really do - at least GT-HD creates a line in the sand for developers out there to try and better graphically - its then just hoping that the gameplay can match it as well. I still pray that GTA when it comes out in October is going to do this and make me scream like a little girl at just how good it is - I'm counting on Rockstar not to let me down.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I would love to work as a games tester, but unfortunately you need to be pretty up on programming. I just don't have the skills.

I don't know if you've seen it, but there's a GT:HD demo video featuring a Nismo GTLM race car which they recently released. It kind of suggests there may be updates in the future with more cars etc. I know that when it was originally being billed as a whole game, there were several videos of loads of different cars on various tracks from the series, so it's possible there's a lot more content yet to be released for it. It does make a bit of sense for Polyphony to do this. They're notorious for taking years to craft their GT titles, so if there is something like this to keep your appetite whetted in the mean time, it takes the focus away from the fact they push back release dates etc. Kind of like they did with the original GT Concept Tokyo and Geneva games.

I'm really looking forward to GTA4. After reading a preview the other day I fired up San Andreas and it reminded me just how well made these games are. Rockstar definitely know how to put together a quality, immersive game. It will be interesting to see how the new 'mature' look of the game is used alongside what have typically been fairly whacky, off the wall mini games.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Games testing would be awful. I doubt you actually get to 'play' the game so much as just get a sheet telling you which actions to repeat a thousand times a day. Driving into walls, jumping off / on things, exhausting all possible inventory / dialogue combinations, saving and loading constantly, bumping into objects etc. And having to do it over and over and over again on every possible combination of game settings. Brr.

And then, once you've given it the okay, a massive glitch is found in the gold release and it's something you were testing, and it's all your fault when everything is fucked.

[ 31.05.2007, 08:16: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Silent Hill 5 Ps3 exclusive. Disappointing. I don't see myself buying a Ps3 until the damn thing is at least half the price it is now / has some games / is properly backwards compatible, assuming it doesn't completely take down Sony before that happens. This comes only a day or two after the positive MGS4 / 360 rumours.

quote:

Currently, they have no plans to bring [Silent Hill 5] multiplatform, although they may be forced down that road if PS3 sales don't improve.

Here's hoping.

[ 31.05.2007, 08:25: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
What the article actually says is that the developers think the PS3 is the only console on the market which is technically capable of supporting their vision for SH5. So what you're hoping for, really, is that the developers are forced into compromising their vision to make a slightly shonky version of the game, so you can save yourself a few pennies.

I thought you were a game fan, Benway? Why would you want them to make a version which isn't as good as they wanted it to be?
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Because Sony is a company that is based on pure evil?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Not like good old Microsoft then, eh
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Touche
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Not that I own a Microsoft console. Just my stupid Wii that won't go online because it's incompatible with Zonealarm and I'm too lazy to install another firewall.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Have you checked the cable?

Who uses zonealarm anyway. Isn't that the really shitty ancient software everyone used in the late 90s which did little more than stop certain websites loading?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
lolol
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
fuck the ps3
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
SG5: I presume you're using the usb dongle to wireless your wii? Get rid of ZA, stick in the usb and then install Comodo firewall. You can properly open up to allow the software to tunnel, unlike in ZA where you seem to have to rely on luck. No problems.

[ 31.05.2007, 08:56: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Hold on... What? i thought the Wii was wireless and needed a USB dongle for wired connections?

Also: lol @ dongle
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
I have no sort of dongle whatsoever just complete wirelessness.

What's strange is that it has no problem downloading updates for the wii. It's happy to do that, just won't let me get online any more.

Zonealarm is awesome these days. I go to a lot of porn sites and with that and avast I've never had any major computer problems (apart from unplugging hard drives)
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
if you don't have wireless internet then you can use their crazy wifi tunneling dongle to route through your PC's own internet connection. I spent hours pissing about with that thing when I got my DS.

I'm assuming that's what sg5 is using, else, why would zonealarm be interfering with his connection? Unless it's installed on his router.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Right. This now makes no sense to me, unless you really can get zonealarm installed on your router.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I don't know what the fuck he's doing to be honest. Neither does he by the sound of it.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
I have no idea to be honest JBN. I have a wireless connection that works fine. The Wii used to connect absolutely fine as I have used it to view youtube videos. However it stopped working and gave me an error number. I googled that error number and it told me to input my DNS values into the setup field on the wii which would be fine, however it said under that section that there is a problem and you can't connect with a wii if you have zonealarm. I don't know why, I'm not a computer tech type guy really all I know is it used to work, now it doesn't and Nintento tell me that I have to get rid of zonealarm.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
That doesn't really make any sense, SG, unless you've got a wireless gateway connected to a PC, and the broadband modem is hanging off the PC rather that going via a broadband router. Zone alarm is on the PC, but unless the connection has to go via the PC, it shouldn't make any difference. Unless they've made it a bit smarter nowadays and it monitors all network traffic on your wireless network and kills anything it doesn't like.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Have you tried....turning it off and on again? doing a hard reset of the router? checking for loose wires?
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Actually, just re-read the page and it says

quote:

We have identified the following software firewall(s) as being incompatible with the use of the Nintendo Wi-Fi USB Connector. We suggest using another firewall product, if possible:

Zone Alarm Internet Security Suite

So as I'm not using that it must be a different problem. God knows. It's error 220602 though and I've followed the information they have about that. Bleh. I guess I'll never get to play mario strikers online
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I'd just turn it all off and go outside mate
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
My connection has dropped out after updates, but then unplugging it and plugging it in again seems to sort it out. Not that I've turned it on for a while.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Actually I had problems with mine a couple of times where it inexplicably wouldn't connect to my gateway until i cycled the power on both the gateway and the Wii, then it would pick it up again.

Wireless networks are just shitty unreliable crap which now gives you cancer too. The Wii's lack of wired network support is pretty shocking I think.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
I thought you were a game fan, Benway? Why would you want them to make a version which isn't as good as they wanted it to be?

I'm sure all games developers have to compromise their initial vision to keep it in line with what the hardware can offer. It's only common sense that they start out with what they would love to achieve, and then have to scale it back to what is actually possible. You could just as easily ask why, as a gamer, you would want the game to be restricted to the tiniest fraction of the gaming community and not make any money for the people behind it.

Also, if the PS3 is the only console that can deliver this thing, how is it that not one single multi-platform game looks better on the PS3, and in several cases looks worse?
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Also I had the exact same problem with my Wii connection that SG5 is describing. By the way dude, did you find that tape?
 
Posted by Fionnula the Cooler (Member # 453) on :
 
The servers for Mario Strikers have been up and down all week, so that could be Silverginger's problem. Usually if it's a server fault, though, the error code will begin with a six, I think, and say something like 'error getting stats'. There's speculation that the only reason we got Mario Strikers - and therefore online play - before the US is so Nintendo could beta test their online wifi service for the Wii. Still, when it works (and it's getting better) it's rather brilliant. Frantic as fuck. People have already figured out ways to achieve cheap wins - like using the same character's same special move to score the same fucking goal over and over and over again - but when you figure out how to deal with such cheap tactics, and go on to defeat the players that perpetually use them, it's incredibly satisfying.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Actually I had problems with mine a couple of times where it inexplicably wouldn't connect to my gateway until i cycled the power on both the gateway and the Wii, then it would pick it up again.

But... The thing is, It downloaded the update patch thing absolutely fine with no problem's whatsoever so it is clearly connecting to the internet but when I then try to sign the agreement that allows me to use the internet it tries to connect and then says it can't form a connection.

I don't know why it says this when it has just formed a connection. Why would Shigeru Miyamoto lie to me?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:

Also, if the PS3 is the only console that can deliver this thing, how is it that not one single multi-platform game looks better on the PS3, and in several cases looks worse?

I think the answer to that is fairly obvious: simply that these games are currently being developed for the 360, which developers say is nice and easy to code and optimise for as it's just like a PC, and then they're ported to the PS3 as more of an afterthought rather than spend the money on developing and optimising a version of the game for that console. Look at games which are developed solely for the PS3 which in some respects is still very new technology compared to the 360 and certainly the depths of its abilities are yet to be truly understood, games like Gran Turismo HD and the graphics are so much better than things you see on the 360. Plus it's an indisputable fact that blu-ray currently has masses more capacity than any other format, meaning that games can be much larger over a single disk.

But then you know all this. It's mostly a case of brand loyalty that makes people want to put down another console.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
Also I had the exact same problem with my Wii connection that SG5 is describing. By the way dude, did you find that tape?

I haven't entirely looked for the tape yet. So no. But I shall look.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
But then you know all this. It's mostly a case of brand loyalty that makes people want to put down another console.

Actually, it's more likely to be a kind of defensive reaction to buyer's remorse, than brand loyalty. But whatever. Anyway. I thought the word on Blu-Ray was that although it had masses and masses of storage, the laser was so slow that they wound up putting entire games on the disc several times over to keep the load times down.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
one day I'm sure the Ps3 will be worth it. At the moment, one tech demo isn't enough to justify it, especially as the actual games coming out at the moment for the ps3 (according to internet sources) look and feel worse than those coming out for the xbox.

Personally though, I still find the DS to be the most compelling system. But that's just like a kiddie fisher price version of a games console.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Why so much more bitter about that fisher-price comment than anything else I've ever said?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I know that the load times for games on blu ray disk are greater than those on other media (what media is the 360 out of interest, is it dvd-rom?) but I hadn't heard anything about having to write the game several times. I'm not sure how that would speed up access times to be honest. Sounds a bit unlikely. I could be wrong I suppose.

I don't know why buyer remorse needs to come into it. I'm sure most people if they wanted to, could scrape together enough to buy whichever console they want. I think it's just good that we've got a lot of choice out there.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
one day I'm sure the Ps3 will be worth it. At the moment, one tech demo isn't enough to justify it, especially as the actual games coming out at the moment for the ps3 (according to internet sources) look and feel worse than those coming out for the xbox.

It depends on what you want out of it really. Consoles now are far more than mere games machines. The PS3 can be turned into a fully fledged desktop PC if you felt like it, it plays the latest blu-ray films, you can go online, etc etc etc. And for other consoles too, there's more to them than just the games. There are a lot of really interesting looking games set to come out for PS3 over the next 6 months and I'm sure it'll be a long time before we see the potential fully exploited from either the 360 or the PS3. But it does seem to be the case that software developers are mostly starting to say that the PS3 has considerably greater potential. How much of that is marketting fluff remains to be seen.

Not that it matters really. The Xbox was technically superior to the PS2, and yet for my money the PS2 was the better gaming console because of the titles available for it and the controllers which were better in my opinion.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
sure man, and if it didn't cost twice as much as an xbox, the ps3 would be a viable photo viewer / DVD player / internet device.

[ 31.05.2007, 10:03: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
anything's better than the 360. The drive on that thing is loud as fuck.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
sure man, and if it didn't cost twice as much as an xbox, the ps3 would be a viable photo viewer / DVD player / internet device.

I suppose if you want to compare like with like (ish), you'd have to price the PS3 against an Xbox 360 with HD-DVD drive. From what I remember, there's not much in it.

ETA: Here's a picture:

PICTURE

[ 31.05.2007, 10:15: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Fionnula the Cooler (Member # 453) on :
 
Like most people, I'm looking forward to getting a PS3 in two or three years time when it's £200 and has lots of games. That is, if it hasn't completely tanked by then. Sony's barely managing to sell 9,000 of them each week in Japan (compared to 160,000 DSs and 50,000 Wiis) so things are looking pretty bleak. I don't think any console in the history of video games has ever come back from such a slow start to 'win'. Even the Gamecube was doing better at this point in its life. I just hope it manages to struggle on long enough for Ico 3 to come out.

God, I sound like such a fucking boy. Ignore me.

[ 31.05.2007, 10:39: Message edited by: Fionnula the Cooler ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
sure man, and if it didn't cost twice as much as an xbox, the ps3 would be a viable photo viewer / DVD player / internet device.

I suppose if you want to compare like with like (ish), you'd have to price the PS3 against an Xbox 360 with HD-DVD drive. From what I remember, there's not much in it.

ETA: Here's a picture:

PICTURE

But again, these hi def video formats aren't yet worth it. At the moment, most people I'm sure would rather pay less and do without. I'm with mcandrew. Give it a few years.

[ 31.05.2007, 10:23: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
But again, these hi def video formats aren't yet worth it. At the moment, most people I'm sure would rather pay less and do without. I'm with mcandrew. Give it a few years.

No, I totally agree. I was just saying that the BluRay drive accounts for a fair proportion of the PS3's cost. In fact a standlone BluRay Player costs about £600 as far as I can tell.

Personally, I don't think I'll bother with either until The Force Unleashed comes out.

Wii for stupid games
PC for proper games
Media Centre PC for emulators

[ 31.05.2007, 10:39: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I still sometimes build my dream PC on dabs, get quite close to buying it with spread payments, wake up, and then decide to leave it six months until the next Nvidia card either comes out, or six months later, becomes affordable. By the time it's affordable, the next card is a month away so you're like, you know, maybe I'll hang on for that. Already Nvidia is talking about the 9 series. I held off on the 7, thought I'll really go for an 8, but now that's supposed to be a bit underwhelming yet the 9 is going to be like 3x as powerful as the 8. Meanwhile dual-core will probably be erased altogher as 16 core intel chips go on sale for £10,000.

There's always ATi i suppose but really, who knows about that shit.

[ 31.05.2007, 10:49: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I still sometimes build my dream PC on dabs, get quite close to buying it with spread payments, wake up, and then decide to leave it six months until the next Nvidia card either comes out, or six months later, becomes affordable.

Yeah, I did that for ages, but finally plumped for a cheap Core2Duo (easily overclockable to 3.5Ghz) and an affordable 8600GTS. It's probably not going to last me years and years, but the card was only £100 and it can play everything I've thrown at it, maxed out, which is a nice change from the Athlon XP + 6600GT I had before.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I've got an Athlon XP + 6660GT too. It started to show it's age at F.E.A.R, and even HL2 had to be run without hardly any AA. Rather than buying a new PC, I just put it in a shiny new case and skinned the desktop.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Yeah, I'm catching up with the last couple of years worth of games at the moment. Good times.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Haven't used the PC for games for months. It was starting to get a bit creaky with Oblivion, and I realised that if I didn't get a new top-end PC I could probably quite easily afford to get married. So I got the 360 instead. The best thing is not having to tinker with the settings. That used to really piss me off. Just constantly tweaking games to see just how much you could get out of them. So anyway. These days the PC is just a big wank generator.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Bleak, why are you getting married if you've got a PC and a 360?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I must say, this new Tomb Raider game is everything it should be and more. Absolutely amazing game. The level design is just absolutely breathtaking.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I’m really loving Tomb Raider Anniversary a lot right now. I was saying to Hippy last night on MSN, every now and then you come across a game and right from the first level you just know it’s something special. Like Half-Life, Resident Evil 4, and of course the original Tomb Raider. I can tell it’s a great game because it’s all I can think about today, and I’m itching to get home to play it again. I haven’t felt like that about a game in ages.

Probably some of it is nostalgia. I loved the original Tomb Raider and spent hours and hours playing it. They’ve absolutely hit the sweet spot in terms of replicating and expanding upon everything that made the original brilliant, and cutting everything that made it frustrating. So now, rather than the blocky grid system of movement, Lara has the fluid and intuitive control system she had in Legend, which makes exploring the massive levels an absolute joy it itself. And they are massive, much much bigger than those in the original game, and the puzzles much more complex.

One thing I didn’t like about Legend which I though kind of spoiled it, was the fact you had some annoying chap on the radio all the time telling you what to do and whatnot. Thankfully there’s none of that in Anniversary. You feel completely alone and isolated. The soundtrack helps, with it’s minimalist creeping score just setting an edge to the environments. There’s almost no music at all as you’re exploring, which really adds to the atmosphere.

The graphics, considering it’s a PS2 game, are really very impressive. It’s got to be one of the best looking PS2 game I’ve seen. The draw distance is great, and the textures look clean and sharp. It looks perhaps a bit flatter than Legend did on the 360, but that’s hardly surprising. There are lots of nice little graphical touches, like Lara’s clothes getting wet when she goes in water, then slowly drying out.

I’m not terribly far through the game so can’t really give a proper summary of it, but if it continues as well as it’s started, this could well be right up there alongside some of the best games I’ve played.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
looks kind of crappy.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
So does your face
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
Also I had the exact same problem with my Wii connection that SG5 is describing. By the way dude, did you find that tape?

I managed to sort out my wii to go online yesterday!

What I did was thusly...

go start>run>cmd then type ipconfig/all

Write down the two dns servers you have. You then go into the connection settings on the wii, go to advanced settings on your wireless, scroll right twice and then enter the two dns server addresses into the boxes there.

This didn't work for me however, but then I found another site that said if you switch them around so the second one goes in the first box and vice versa it should sort it out and miraculously it now works.

I am now going to have to buy mario strikers though as I got bored of being connected to the internet through the wii in about 37 seconds without any games to play.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I've put an order in for Mario Strikers. And Forza 2. And pre-ordered Halo3. And ordered Ouendan 2. And downloaded the complete Sam & Max series. Fans of Phoenix Wright should keep an eye on imports because there are rumours of an English translation being available in in the Japanese release of #3.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
also - bomberman on xbox live looks good.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
I thought you weren't into halo?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm not, but you know, every other **** will be playing it so I should at least get up to speed. I like fps games as long as I can play in teams. I like the whole team bonding side of things, looking out for each other, being heroic etc. The current deathmatch on the demo isn't much fun. I always end up just hiding in a corner.

[ 04.06.2007, 08:03: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I only realised like yesterday, that Halo was by Bungie, who made the Marathon games for Macs, way back in the 90s. Nobody ever really talks about marathon, but I'd say those games are right there with Doom etc.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
There's team slayer too and Big Team Battle, and on the non ranked games there's Skirmish games like territories and VIP etc.
I find it does get better when you learn the maps so you at least know where the weapons are and know which weapons are best for each situation. It stills sucks to be sniped all the time by one guy, I hope the matchmaking will be improved so that more even match ups will happen.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Saying that, even in team games, I still suck and blow very hard. on GRAW, I'm the chimp getting cut down within 2 seconds of enemy contact while my pals are all ducking and double-tapping.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Keep practising, you'll get there eventually [Smile]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
so does your face.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
This is the frustration, even if you devoted your life to the game you would never get as good as the 12-17 year old age bracket. The new gamer generation, with thumbs that move like lightning, advanced peripheral gamer vision and super sensitivity to dolby 5.1 subtleties.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Yeah I suck.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
hey thorn, are you going to get forza?
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Maybe. I didn't used to be a huge fan of racing games. I really did enjoy Burnout: Revenge, though, so it's kind of whetted my appettite for them. However, I hear that the crashes are a bit muted on Forza (something to do with car manufacturers not wanting their products to be seen as fiery instruments of horrific death), which removes half the appeal. I like crashes, you see.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
oh right. Yeah. The new Colin McCrae game seems to be more about crashes. Not quite as spectacular as burnout though.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
blah blah blah.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
However, I hear that the crashes are a bit muted on Forza (something to do with car manufacturers not wanting their products to be seen as fiery instruments of horrific death), which removes half the appeal. I like crashes, you see.

I think you'd enjoy the FlatOut series. I've played the first two games on PC and they're a lot of fun, thanks to the physics based crashes and destructible scenery.

Seems like there's an xbox 360 version due to be launched in a few weeks:

*
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
Maybe. I didn't used to be a huge fan of racing games. I really did enjoy Burnout: Revenge, though, so it's kind of whetted my appettite for them. However, I hear that the crashes are a bit muted on Forza (something to do with car manufacturers not wanting their products to be seen as fiery instruments of horrific death), which removes half the appeal. I like crashes, you see.

Thing is, Forza and Burnout are like opposite ends of a very long spectrum. Burnout is a pure arcade racer, completely removed from the experience of actual racing. In fact, am I right in saying that out of its many many modes, only one of them actually concerns itself with the order in which you cross the finish line?

Forza on the other hand is as close as the developers feel they can get to accurately recreating the act of driving a car. It's meant to be a complete simulation of racing, with all its subtelties, including such things as tyre pressures and flex, differences in wind speed, strength of braking, and all of the minute adjustments you can make to your vehicle to make it competative. It's exactly the kind of game that appeals to a complete petrolhead car geek like me, whereas I wouldn't have thought you would get the full enjoyment out of the game, because you're not going to want to spend whole evenings playing with your ride height, damper rates and gear ratios.

I might be wrong, of course, and maybe you'd really enjoy it. But I think it's a bit of a leap to think that your tastes have suddenly switched to enjoying hardcore racing sims, because you enjoyed crashing cars on a light hearted arcade game.

It's like, say you're having sex one day and maybe your partner pinches your or something and you're all like "hmm, that wasn't bad actually. I've never liked anything kinky like that before. But hey, it seems I should now go and buy some full S&M garb, and build myself a dungeon of pain"
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Yeah, you're absolutely right Ringo. Forza doesn't sound like my kind of thing at all. Customisation, breathtaking accuracy and considered driving don't appeal in the slightest. I liked Burnout just becuase it was 'plough through the traffic' high speed nonsense. Forza 2 now sounds a bit too much like the last thing I would ever want to bother doing with my free time.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
If you crash hard enough in FlatOut, your driver will fly out of the windscreen in all his ragdoll glory. Alongside the racing, there are a number of mini games, based on the idea of launching your driver to his death.
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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Well yeah, that's pretty much the impression you've given.

'I dont' like car games but I like burnout becasue I can crash cars together and make them explode'

Even your post above alluded to it.

Like I said, maybe I'm wrong, it's just that Burnout and Forza are like chalk and cheese. Totally different style of game. Enjoying one doesn't suggest you're going to enjoy the other. I'm not trying to tell you not to give it a go so no need to get all upset about it.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Check, one, two...
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
so no need to get all upset about it.

I'm not upset - you were absolutely right. I read your post and nodded thinking, "That is absolutely true". My above post was sincere, not sarcastic.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
*hums slightly irritating tune

*drums fingers on desk
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Gear ratios are the best thing about Gran Turismo. I must have spent hours adjusting them on my beloved Unisia Jecs R32 GT-R and Mitusbishi GTO.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Oh... ok. Fair enough then.

Although, uh, one of the things they always raved about from the first game was that the experience was so scalable with various difficulty levels, driver aids and suggested racing lines etc, that it had some appeal for people who didn't want to completely immerse themselves in the advanced aspects of the game. Which is why I'm not categorically saying that you wouldn't enjoy it, but it does seem a bit of a waste to get a game like that when you're not going to enjoy all of it's potential.

It's a shame that Ridge Racer 7 isn't out for 360 as I think that would probably be more up your street (although I stopped playing it when I got so frustrated with it I threw my sixaxis across the room)
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Burnout is basically like a kiddie fisher price version of driving a car.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Ringo - In your opinion, can Forza really hold a candle to the PC driving sims, such as rFactor and Live for Speed?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
One sentence will do.

Just give me something. Anything...
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
If you crash hard enough in FlatOut, your driver will fly out of the windscreen in all his ragdoll glory. Alongside the racing, there are a number of mini games, based on the idea of launching your driver to his death.

That looks more like it. I think I played a demo of this on the PC, but couldn't get my car round the first bend.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Ringo - In your opinion, can Forza really hold a candle to the PC driving sims, such as rFactor and Live for Speed?

I've not played rFactor so it's hard to comment, and I've not actually played Forza 2, just the first one. However in my personal opinion a game like Forza/Gran Turismo etc will always be hampered by the controller it's designed to be played with. Realistically you can only play LFS properly with a steering wheel and pedals, and preferably one like the Logitec G25 with a clutch pedal and H-pattern shifter along with 900 degrees of rotation. You can have the best physics in the world but there are elements of the control system which determine how you interract with them.

For instance steering angle. In a real car, your steering wheel is connected to the wheels via the steering rack. If you steer hard, you'll get understeer, even if it's a shallow bend. If you steer harder the steering wheel will eventually wind round to the lock stops as your car slithers forward into a hedge. you steer and steer, but nothing happens, the car continues to go forwards. On LFS, this happens as well. On a console game, you don't have finite control of the steering angle, and the rate at which you turn the virtual wheel. That is to say, the angle of the front wheels is not 'directly linked' to the angle of the analogue stick. There's a control system in place which determines how quickly your electronic driver turns his virtual steering wheel and the angle at which he will stop turning. As you start to experience understeer, the virtual driver will stop winding on steering angle. So while you are pushing the analogue stick all the way to one side, the effect on the car may be as little as half steering angle. If the angle of the wheels were directly linked to the angle of the stick, then it would be almost impossible to drive.

There are many other examples of this. For the most part, a good ajority of people will play a game like Forza in automatic gearing mode. That, in itself, is unrealistic in a car which has a manual gearbox. You have no clutch, no control over the severity of the throttle input, etc etc. In LFS, you have the option of using auto gears but the experience is so deviod of control you generally don't want to. Just like in real life, driving an automatic at pace is a frustrating and annoying experience. But there's more to it than just that. In LFS, the throttle input is managed just by you, so if you 'flatshift' (i.e. change gears while holding your foot on the throttle) you'll eventually damage your gearbox, and it'll affect your performance. You're encouraged to drive it exactly how you would a real car.

That's not to say that LFS is without its faults. The steering wheel, no matter the force feedback, isn't connected to actual wheels, and so the movement is not accurate. The motors in a force feedback wheel lack the torque required to make the wheel turn at the rate it would in a real car, and if they did then you'd never be able to turn the wheel. For instance, in my Mazda one thing I used to enjoy doing: steer into a corner half throttle, then feather the throttle to loe traction before hitting the gas to slide the tail round. When the car starts to slide, you just let go of the wheel and it will automatically countersteer at a rate greater than your hands would ever physically be able to turn the wheel, and then you grab the wheel at the desired angle to stop it, and power out of the corner.

So there's no such thing as a perfect driving simulator because you're limited by the input device you use, and by the fact you need to keep the experience accessible to people without being ridiculously difficult. What developers aim to do is give an aprroximation of the feel of driving. Something which, while not perfect in terms of absolute realism, gives the sensation of driving a car while still being a fun game. The nature of a PC and the various input methods available, means that a greater level of technical realism can be achieved, although it's hard to quantify a 'satisfying driving experience' which is why sometimes a game like Forza et al, can be more rewarding and almost feel more like actually driving a car than a full on simulator.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
lol
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Thanks for the reply Ringo. I'm using my wheel for everything at the moment. Even X³ Reunion. There's something way cool about driving a space ship with a steering wheel and pedals, using the gear paddles to fire frickin' lasers.

I tried playing a Forza on xbox a few weeks back, but I found the control pad really frustrating, like it disconnected me from the driving. Rumble isn't a patch on force feedback.

I still find arcade racing games enjoyable, but as you say, they're in a totally different category to simulators. I find Forza falls into an uncomfortable middle ground. Although it may be very accurate, it's just not realistic enough for me, at least with one of these:

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
To be honest I never found Forza that realistic compared to Gran Turismo which is why I never liked the game as much. I haven't played Forza 2 so can't say if it's better or not, although you'd assume they would have improved the feel and response. One thing about Forza that did always impress me was how the game conveyed the sense of weight in the cars. Without ABS engaged, braking from high speeds is something you need to plan carefully, pick your marker and make constant adjustments to the braking pressure as the car decelerates, making sure not to lock the wheels. There's a sense of bery strong forces at work, rather than on GT where you can basically just mash the brake button and the car slows down.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I just bought my first ridiculous luxury.

Remember, you don't own products, they own you. Destroy your nice things.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Wow, that's a helluva set. 40in? Jesus Christ. How big's your new house?

Here's Fawn's top tip for LCD: usually the default settings are set to eye-bleedingly bright and unnatural colours to make the picture really leap out, so it's worth tinkering with them. Also, turning the sharpness down on non-HD inputs (like regular DVD, for example), actually improves the picture quality and eliminates that thing where people's skin appears to smear and crawl around their skull.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
it should still be possible to squeeze two people in the lounge with this tv if they do a half sit/kneel thing against the back wall.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Those massive screens absolutely rape your electricity.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
I've got a bigger telly than that.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
maybe I made a mistake.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Oh Benway. [Frown]

I never thought of you as one of them.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
How big is yours Louche? You never really struck me as that 'enthused' about movies.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Lol, I bought an air conditioner the other week.

[Cool]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
screw movies. I'm in it for the xbox.
if it's too big, I can just send it back, right?

Right?

[Frown]

[ 06.06.2007, 08:54: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
maybe I made a mistake.

I dunno. I think Gears of War will look pretty impressive in 40in HD.

I'd love to have a projector set up in a dedicated room; a proper home theatre. When we move house I either want to have just a home cinema room, or maybe a howling room instead.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
Mine's 42 inch. It's not really mine, though. My husband bought it for games and shizz. When I watch UKTV Food on it, he complains that I am wasting technology.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
I'd love to have a projector set up in a dedicated room; a proper home theatre. When we move house I either want to have just a home cinema room, or maybe a howling room instead.

A friend of mine has a 1080p projector and it's awesome. Especially playing Gameboy Tetris emulated on his Xbox, on a screen 15 feet wide.

My TV only does 1080i and that looks pretty nice. I'm not sure I've ever actually seen a screen at 1080p although several times I've contemplated getting one. It just seems... excessive however.

I did have half a mind to get a massive screen like that and make mysrlf up a bucket seat with steering wheel type arrangement. One day maybe.

But ultimately my one dream piece of home entertainment is, and always will be, my own full sized snooker table. Unfortunately, they require considerably more space than a TV. And money.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
We have that TV too Benway, it's a stunning picture and not as large as you think it will be when it's in place.

I'm getting a PS3 in the morning so I can full HD myself to death.

I think once they're all hooked together (TV/Amp and new set of Kef egg surround speakers) it'll be a sweet home setup.

My father in law has a home cinema room, with 6 cinema seats in it and a small projection room at the back...

[ 06.06.2007, 09:45: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Thorn - did you see my post earlier in this thread about setting up the wii wirelss properly?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Yes SG, we all saw it. We're all very impressed.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Is your name Thorn now? I was asking if he'd seen it as he had the same problem with his wireless, I wasn't trying to impress anyone just checking if he was aware. Has this ruined your talking about big tvs and racing games? Should the thread now been locked?

[ 06.06.2007, 09:40: Message edited by: SilverGinger5 ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Right. Well that'll be the last time I try to have a joke with you. Nice one.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
Are you alright, SilverGinger?
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Right. Well that'll be the last time I try to have a joke with you. Nice one.

Believe me when I say, I shall cry myself to sleep about this fact.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
What the fuck is up with you?
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
You know, nothing really. No sleep last night after a blazing row then meetings most of today. Probably not reading clearly so didn't get your joke. I shall go drink coffee and smoke fags now.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Louche:
Are you alright, SilverGinger?

Yeah, I'm alright Louche. You?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Yes SG, we all saw it. We're all very impressed.

BURN!!!
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SilverGinger5:
Sorry for being a bit of a dick, I'm a bit stressed and snapped before I realised it was a joke

No no, pray don't mention it [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
sorry, that was actually a lie - removed.

[ 06.06.2007, 10:04: Message edited by: SilverGinger5 ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
For fuck's  -

[ 06.06.2007, 10:06: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
dvdactive
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
What an odd interlude.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Sorry - my fault entirely.

Let's pick up where we left off...
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
no... this thread...I don't know. Feels kind of different now. It's - it doesn't feel right. I think you've ruined it, misc. Over twenty pages of text, and you've managed to ruin it all.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
Bad Misc. *shakes head*
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I've emailed the mods, asking them to lock and delete the thread.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
 -
No!
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
That's best, Nathan. Actually, it might help if we could ban tmo. I'll contact Microsoft and ask them to delete tmo from the internet. That should go some way to stopping misc from reaching out from the land of horses and ruining things for people.

[ 06.06.2007, 10:36: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Actually, I'm glad this thread's going down the pan. The title's kind of grating when you see it all the time. It sounds like the sort of thing that the head twat of the office would ask on a 'work night out', before bragging about his massive new TV.

Someone should come up with something better.

[ 06.06.2007, 10:37: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
shut up.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
stupid Misc.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
Haven't you done enough damage for one day, Misc?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
LOL, tomorrow would've been this thread's birthday!

[Razz]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
*cries*
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Where did Big Nuts get the money for a telly like that, anyway?

What's going on?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Benway, 1 year ago:

Aside from all that horseshit that I just said - what are people are 'rocking' at the moment?

I am so fucking smooth.

[ 06.06.2007, 10:44: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Where did Big Nuts get the money for a telly like that, anyway?

What's going on?

I saved up, man. I saved up.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Right. No-one saves up. No. One. Not even Big Nuts.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I did. I haven't got much money left now though.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
You should've bought it on credit. Then you could've spunked your savings away and you'd still have a telly.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
there's loads of stuff still to get though. Next up is a laptop. And a fucking washing machine.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Fuck the washing-machine. First things first, stock the bar.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
You should've bought it on credit. Then you could've spunked your savings away and you'd still have a telly.

Do you work as a financial advisor, by any chance?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
 -
Me, earlier today.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Vogon Poetess was the greatest person in the world at saving up. I've never known anyone like it. Hoarded like a squirrel, she did. Apparently, when she died she had nearly 25k in her savings account. [Frown]

[ 06.06.2007, 10:52: Message edited by: Nathan Bleak ]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Hang on. Sorry - it says here I'm not supposed to post that until 2009. Sorry. Shit. Just ignore that. Sorry.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Saving is for mugs. Spend everything!
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
Vogon Poetess was the greatest person in the world at saving up. I've never known anyone like it. Hoarded like a squirrel, she did. Apparently, when she died she had nearly 5k in her savings account. [Frown]

She never did get that racehorse, did she? [Frown]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
She never did get that racehorse, did she? [Frown]

Not according to the notes I'm working from.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
DING DONG!
Hi, I'm Orlando Bloom, I've got this spare racehorse, would you like it? I bumped into your boss earlier, he said you're doing too much work so you're getting a big raise and you only have to do half as much work... Oh, and you're being relocated to the Lord of the Rings branch. Any chance of a fuck?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
That's how Veep died.

Massive stroke.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Darryn.R:
We have that TV too Benway, it's a stunning picture and not as large as you think it will be when it's in place.

I'm getting a PS3 in the morning so I can full HD myself to death

Yeah but I got that one first!

So you are getting the PS3 - ace. Oh and top night last night fella!
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Louche a whole almost year ago:
God of War is an excellent game to watch someone else playing. The effects are just so silly. And the music is rather stirring. Also good for watching other people play: Tony Hawkes games.

That is the sum of my Games related contribution. I'm still fascinated by Bejewelled.

Christ, I thought I'd only gone to shit in the last six months. It's obviously a lot longer than that. I mean, what the fuck was the point of that post?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Alvin Hall would approve of my non-credit ways.
 
Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
That's how Veep died.

Massive stroke.

i thought she died on the tube.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
I'd like to play a game set in 1950s Los Angeles, where your character (the bastard daughter of Betty Page and Ed Gein) is brainwashed by the Chinese to smuggle a nuclear device (which is disguised as a teenaged boy) into the lot of MGM studios. You have to use guile, pussy and ultraviolence to achieve your ends. The bomb is detonated when penetrated by Cary Grant. David Niven is tipped off to your plot and enlists the help of Hollywood's finest to hunt you down with Thompson machine-guns.

I'm still waiting for this game...
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by doc d:
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
That's how Veep died.

Massive stroke.

i thought she died on the tube.
Did I miss something?
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
Not yet, Black Mask, it's only scheduled to happen in 2009. I think.

We should make up deaths for the missing TMOers.

2005: Philomel strangled by a stray sock.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
What's a Philomel?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
Alvin Hall would approve of my non-credit ways.

Good for you mate. I also have recently adjusted to a life without credit and I have to say, so far it appears to be completely shit [Frown]

[ 06.06.2007, 11:19: Message edited by: Ringo ]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
not is a faggot nigger, but he'll fuck anyone up who dares point it out. Be warned.

lol. I didn't know not... was black.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Louche:
2005: Philomel strangled by a stray sock.

lol.

2006: Bamba choked to death on his own anger.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Why do you think he can't stop shooting people on UD?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
I also have recently adjusted to a life without credit and I have to say, so far it appears to be completely shit [Frown]

That's because you live in...
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
What I've got in my dossier under 'philomel' is:

Missing female poster tied into Benway/Raz love triangle. Friend of Louche's from another board, favoured a kind of rhythmic pitter-patter writing style heavy on imagery, alliteration and assonance. Worked in PR. Subject of a possibly very false rumour involving a formerly prominent male poster and voyeurism/masturbation.
 
Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
quote:
Originally posted by doc d:
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
That's how Veep died.

Massive stroke.

i thought she died on the tube.
Did I miss something?
sorry. that was a near death experience wasn't it?
her fainting and hungover.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Oh dear, the thread's gone all racist.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
What I've got in my dossier under 'philomel' is:

Missing female poster tied into Benway/Raz love triangle. Friend of Louche's from another board, favoured a kind of rhythmic pitter-patter writing style heavy on imagery, alliteration and assonance. Worked in PR. Subject of a possibly very false rumour involving a formerly prominent male poster and voyeurism/masturbation.

Nice. Could you pretend I've been missing for a few years and do me?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
2006: ralph, died of tediousness
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
2006: ralph, died of tediousness

lol. It was actually 2005.

Early February I think.

[ 06.06.2007, 11:26: Message edited by: ralph ]
 
Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :
 
who's ralph again?
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Looking at my notes for the second half of 2007 it's - lol - if ralph thinks he knows what hard times are... lol. Well. I shouldn't really be giving out these spoilers. Lol. Poor ralph. lol.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
I also have recently adjusted to a life without credit and I have to say, so far it appears to be completely shit [Frown]

That's because you live in...
...Britain!
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Well I live in Britain, but I'm not miserable.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Yeah well, probably doesn't pay to be miserable if you're a chef.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Nice comeback!
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Likewise!

Why must we always hurt one another, Misc [Frown]
 
Posted by missgolightly (Member # 34) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
Subject of a possibly very false rumour involving a formerly prominent male poster and voyeurism/masturbation.

Wait, haven't all the female members of tmo done that then? That's what he told me, anyway...

[Confused]
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
So, what's good for on the PS3 then ?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Not much.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Tomb Raider Anniversary is excellent. That'll work on your PS3. It even has progressive scan support too so it doesn't look totally bobbins on high def TVs (one thing that really marred my enjoyment of RE4)
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
Not much.

LOL.

Looks it too.

BUT it will do some rather neat new tricks now, DVD upscaling, media streaming and act as a webportal for the PSP so it's quicker to browse the net, it's also now able to play youtube (which for me will be a godsend and keep the kid quiet for hours).

Poor showing on the games front, I'm still kind of hoping to get Dead Rising which it's rumoured might be available next year.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
TH: Project 8 is a great game, like all the Tony Hawks games really.

Should be some awesome games coming out though, like Colin Mcrae DiRT which looks superb, and LittleBigPlanet which should be a fantastic game if it delivers everything it promises.

But actually genuinely, as i said above, I reckon TR:Anniversary is very much worth buying, even if it doesn't take advantage of the hardware. It's definitely one of the best games I've played.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Download GT:HD when you sign up for the Sony Network just to show the potential.

Tiger Woods is good, nice and relaxing stuff and is good fun for online play.

First person shooters make you feel ill, right? Counts out Call of Duty. Sonic the Hedghog is pretty but I think by being so advanced from the original it has lost its charm a bit.

What sort of games do you like mate?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Metal Gear Solid 4 looks like it'll be alright.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
I don't know what sort of games I like really, I have Tiger Woods on the PSP now and that's a good relaxing game, I've played right the way through Family Guy, A Couple of Xmen games (I thought of buying Marvel: Ultimate Alliance which looks OK)all the Ratchet and Clanks (PS3 game due this autumn) and Daxters (with Jax) so I guess something along those lines maybe, though I'd love to take Dead Rising out for a test drive but it's still an XBox exclusive..

Well it's all wored in and running its network update, maybe later tonight I'll hook into the internet and go buy a game or two in the morning.

Doesn't it just show off the Full HD though, bloody hell, I'd forgotten quite how good that picture is when getting the right source..
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
It's worth getting some Blu-Ray movies. Casino Royale in particular looks absolutely stunning. GT:HD will make you have a total eyegasm. Even if just sitting on the race screen watching the 'helicopter' camera pan around the hugely detailed race track.

Dial me in as a buddy later too. mazdachris I think is what I called myself. We can play games and stuff together maybe, when they release something worth playing online.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Please TMO. Please stop me from buying an Xbox 360 and undoing some of my hard work clearing my credit card.

It's just... Everyone has Forza 2 and they're all playing it online every night and posting up screenshots and I'm really having a hard time not to buy one.

Please talk me out of it.

[Frown]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Buy *rFactor for £24.99 instead, and then download as many of the huge variety of *cars, tracks and series as you like. Legally and for free. I've recently been enjoying the Historic Rally Cars mod, which includes the ludicrous Metro 6R4, Audi Quattro, etc.

Xbox is gey.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
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[ 14.06.2007, 07:50: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Have you ever had the fortune to see a Metro 6R4 being driven in anger? They make the most amazing noise. Goes in your ears and reverberates through your entire body, erecting every single hair. Amazing cars, just shatteringly fast.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Sorry TMO, you didn't really do a good enough job of talking me out of it, and I've had loads of people saying I should buy it.

So I have.

I'm so fucking ashamed of myself [Frown]
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
You should be - shakes head in slow motion...
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
You suck!
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
Tsk, tsk. The novelty always wears off...

*kicks Xbox 360 in the scrotum*
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Ah well, at least I have both now. I can enjoy all the winnerest titles.
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
All they'll do is serve to disrupt you from snooker practice, surely. I'm a tad disappointed. The extra time you'll be utilising careering console cars around bends at 150 miles per hour, could be spent knocking in your first century break. Priceless memories...

*sigh*
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
How much did you pay for your 360?
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
I haven't got one. I bought a second hand Xbox yonks ago, but it broked a few months back. Probably due to lack of serious usage.

ETA: Ignore the above if you were referring to Ringo's.

[ 14.06.2007, 09:42: Message edited by: Zygote ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I know I know. To be honest I've been coming to the conclusion that our local snooker place is in fact shite. It's generally full of morons. Either old fuckers who eye you with suspicion and stand 30 deep around a single table, applauding and nodding knowlingly at any shot which doesn't result in the ball being blasted violently from the table, or it's young yobs with baseball caps, red faces, and eyes too close together. Who just seem to take it in turns seeing how fast they can smack a ball around the table. And all the tables are completely rubbish. Most you can't play a single shot down the rail, slow shots always roll off line (and I'm not talking about the nap of the cloth here, I mean rolling seriously), and the dimples in the cloth where the balls generally sit mean it's almost impossible to accurately pot a ball off its spot. Add to that the fact the tables are absolutely filthy, and you end up having grimy sticky hands after a couple of frames, and it's just not a nice experience. You can book a match table which is marginally better (two of these still have stitches in the baize though, where thye've been repaired, and one has two sets of lines on, where they've stretched the cloth and had to redraw it) but they're like £7/h and it's just not good value for money.
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
And all the tables are completely rubbish. Most you can't play a single shot down the rail, slow shots always roll off line (and I'm not talking about the nap of the cloth here, I mean rolling seriously), and the dimples in the cloth where the balls generally sit mean it's almost impossible to accurately pot a ball off its spot. Add to that the fact the tables are absolutely filthy, and you end up having grimy sticky hands after a couple of frames, and it's just not a nice experience.

Hmmm. That sounds horrific. By the sounds of it, one would be lucky to knock in a break of thirty on tables like these. Can't you join a local working mens' club? I've joined four and the tables are maintained immaculately. Average price is 20p per half an hour. Can't go wrong.
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
You can book a match table which is marginally better (two of these still have stitches in the baize though, where thye've been repaired, and one has two sets of lines on, where they've stretched the cloth and had to redraw it) but they're like £7/h and it's just not good value for money.

Seven quid an hour! I used to practice on a table actually used for World Championship qualifying matches for a fiver an hour. Does the owner of your snooker club wear a mask?

Edited to add: I can see why don't bother much these days. I wouldn't either if my clubs were like the one you've described.

[ 14.06.2007, 09:55: Message edited by: Zygote ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I just bought an xbox 360 controller for use on my PC.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Yeah, I mean I wouldn’t mind paying so much if the tables were really good and there was table service, that kind of thing. But basically it’s a big grotty hall with a load of snooker tables in there, some of which are absolutely knackered. I think they brush them occasionally, but that’s about it. There’s nothing consistent about how the tables play at all. Even the balls are horrible, pitted and chipped with stains that you literally would need sandpaper to remove.

I think if you went there by yourself you’d just get the piss taken out of you (as if being charged that much wasn’t enough of a pisstake)

Worst thing is the dirt though. Your hands feel so filthy after playing in there for a few hours, it’s disgusting. Your cue ends up feeling sticky and clammy where the dirt gets into it. Just horrible.

Apparently there used to be a much better one where the tables were in individual rooms and you had a phone to the bar and a pretty girl would bring you drinks and stuff.

Oh at the tables are too close together, and frequently you end up taking a shot while some inconsiderate shit from the adjacent table stands inches from you impatiently huffing and puffing if you spend more than half a second lining up your shot.

It’s a shame really because they’re always really busy. You need to book a table in advance generally, otherwise you end up on the ‘middle row’ where you wont even have a table to put your drinks on, or somewhere to put your coat.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I don't feel guilty about it. It was only £FIFTEEN.
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Oh at the tables are too close together, and frequently you end up taking a shot while some inconsiderate shit from the adjacent table stands inches from you impatiently huffing and puffing if you spend more than half a second lining up your shot.

Lol. I fucking hate it when that happens. I always make a point of really taking my time over shots in these circumstances. Doesn't help with the flow of your game so much, but if there are players nearby with that sort of attitude then I suppose you're not exactly going to be giving it 100% anyway.

Another annoying thing is when you're on a decent break, holding for the black ball etc... and the twat on the next table can't be fucked waiting a second longer to play his disastrous attempted shot. When I see a player on a break, I usually watch and try not to disturb them. But maybe that's just me.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I like to do the 'i don't like the shot' thing of lining it up, getting down, addressing the cue ball, pausing, then getting up again, looking at the shot, maybe getting down, chalking the cue. Small shake of the head. Get down again, address the cue ball about 15 times. Draw arm right back as if to take the shot. pause. slowly address the cueball again. Then finally take the shot.

This is made much much better if the shot turns out to be an absolute felt ripper. Better still, a mis-cue over the top of the cueball, sending it slowly rolling inches from the object ball, and missing it.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I like to call this 'Ebdoning'
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
Lol. Liking it.
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
Although I'm sure that the rest of the forum are collectively rolling their eyeballs at all the 'snooker talk'. Fuck 'em, I say.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
No. I can't stand snooker, but somehow the way you two write about the sport makes it seem almost erotic.
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
Well, you know. There's more than one way to flog a dead horse. I think.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
I was just having a conversation with the plump breasted teen south african in the office, and she was telling me about her dad commiting suicide and how he did it. I was reading threads and PMing the whole time and trying not to let my smirk for the board seem like a smile at her misery...
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Benny the Ball:
she was telling me about her dad commiting suicide and how he did it.

So.. er..

No.

Oh fuck it...

How did he do it then?
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Please TMO. Please stop me from buying an Xbox 360 and undoing some of my hard work clearing my credit card.

It's just... Everyone has Forza 2 and they're all playing it online every night and posting up screenshots and I'm really having a hard time not to buy one.

Please talk me out of it.

[Frown]

I know it's too late now, but don't you remember posting this back in October 2005?

quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Only paedophiles and men with severely stunted penii lust after the xbox and the 360. FACT.

What are you trying to tell us Ringo?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I hope it's the latter.

[Frown]
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Benny the Ball:
plump breasted teen south african

I see your game Mr. Ball. [Wink]

[ 14.06.2007, 11:13: Message edited by: Zygote ]
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
quote:
Originally posted by Benny the Ball:
she was telling me about her dad commiting suicide and how he did it.

So.. er..

No.

Oh fuck it...

How did he do it then?

Slit his wrists and throat in the bath last year - it didn't take him a year to die though, he died once the blood had run out of his body, probably...
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
That sucks...
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Yeah, sometimes slitting your throat just isn't enough.

Poor plump-breasted-south-african-teen.

[Frown]
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
she seemed at peace about it. I watched her chest to make sure that she wasn't hyperventilating or getting upset.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
You're a good man, Benny. Thoughtful.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I never lusted after the x360, I lusted after Forza Motorsport 2. Close call though.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
get off our forum paedo-boy
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Benny the Ball:
I watched her chest to make sure that she wasn't hyperventilating or getting upset.

You sound like the perfect 'father figure' for this girl. If she's already opened her heart to you, you can be sure of what the next opening is.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I-i'm not a paedo. [Frown]

Come on, I've got an x360 now, we can be buddies online and play games and stuff. That'd be good woudln't it. Wouldn't it?

[Frown]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
 -

Sicko!
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
I've played forza 2 it's nice, very nice.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I'm actually not that impressed to be honest.

It plays almost exactly like the first game, has exactly the same tracks and cars as the first one, has virtually all the same options and modes as the first one (minus the excellent downhill track which was my favourite part of the first game) and the graphics aren't even that good.

Don't get me wrong, it's a good game, but there's really no reason to buy this game over the first one except for the high definition graphics which aren't really a strong point for the game.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
[Frown]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Sorry misc

it does have a saving grace though: you can take pictors of your car and then make them go on the internet

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
That's quite cool.

rFactor lets you edit your replays and export them as video clips.

I pulled off the most amazing power slide in a Caterham the other day. It was one of those where you think you've pushed it a bit too far, and you're about to lose it completely. Then thanks to some deft throttle control, you manage to coax it back into the correct line without overcorrecting and ending up in the sand. It's a very satisfying feeling.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
It's an even better feeling when you do it for real in an actual real life car. I miss those days [Frown]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
been playing Saint's Row and Viva Pinata. Both good. Pinata is especially beautiful, Saint's Row is despressingly satisfying. I didn't want to like Saint's Row, and I almost don't, but I can't get enough of driving around, listening to hip hop, and then getting out my car to take people down with a pistol. The whole shooting thing feels better than GTA. The way your victims move about while being shot is enhanced by Havoc physics (a la Max Payne, without the rubberiness). It's gratifying in Saint's Row to, for example, chase down a hooker, pop her in the back and then get into a van and drive over her head, thanks to the way the bodies behave. It's not got the humour or the immersion or the city design of GTA, but it's still addictive.

Viva Pinata is obviously quite different, being a game where you tend a garden. My only problem is that you don't get many pointers about what to do, and there seemingly isn't any narrative goal. You have to configure your garden in specfic ways to attract creatures, which you can then breed until you've got enough to attract their predators, which you can then breed, etc, but there aren't many clues as to what exactly you have to do to attract the creatures in the first place, and there's just a vague aim of 'catching them all', simply for the purposes of collection. I suppose that it's a sandbox game, but the frikkin achievement points are mostly secret, so it's not like you can easily just try and rack up the 1000 points. I seem to be stuck with the same stable of species, and I'm having to turn to the net for ideas, which kind of takes some of the fun out. Not all of it though - it's still pleasing just to do your garden, watch the creatures interact, and try and make money.

Still playing Forza 2, but that's now getting well difficult. I've taken off all the help things apart from traction control, and now find that I can spend hours and hours trying to finish a seven lap race round Leguna Seca, simply because on the higher levels (I'm at around 30 now) it demands absolutely precise driving. Sometimes you can still get away with maxing your machine out and tearing round without worrying about your competitors like at the beginning of the game, but often I find that my car is just slightly underpowered compared to the others on the track, so every corner has to be dead on. Also, all it takes is one nudge and you can be out the race, which say after 7 of 8 perfect laps is super frustrating. But then, when you do it, the money and new cars and that are a worthy reward. I'm going to do some designing soon. There's that lamborghini that was donated to the italian police, and I might try and paint up such a car to try and start really rackin the cash in online.

I haven't yet raced online yet, because I still don't think I'm good enough. I've taken off traction control a few times, and always find it difficult to get a lead. I know I need to really persist and concentrate to be able to properly et it so I can feel confident on line, but I just haven't had the time.

Still - it looks fucking sweet at 1080i.


eta: Also - Castlevania on the Xbox looks gorgeous as well. I love love love that game. I've got Mario strikers, but can't get into it. On the training mode, I couldn't seem to score any goals while I was super mario, and I thought, if I can't even do a simple training exercise, what are my chances of competing against real people. Also thw wii looked like dogshit on the TV with Scart. I've got component now but haven't yet tried it.

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[ 19.06.2007, 06:18: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
The auction thing on forza 2 is a nice idea, I like, can you get a larger preview of the car though?
http://forzamotorsport.net/auctions/
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
If you fancy a race or owt, it's wotsitsRyum
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
I'm only level 8. Do you use a steering wheel? There's one available for xbox360 now isn't there?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm Finsbury78.

I have got a steering wheel. It's not wireless, but it would probably be alright. It's in work though. I guess I should take it home.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tilde:
I'm only level 8. Do you use a steering wheel? There's one available for xbox360 now isn't there?

There's a Wireless Racing Wheel that allegedly has force feedback, but I don't understand how that's possible without some proper mains juice to power it.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I only have a pad unfortunately. Well I do have the Logitech Driving Force Pro wheel, but I don’t think it’s compatible with Forza. Anyone know for sure?

I’m level 20. Perhaps a C class race on a nice track like Laguna Seca or Tsukuba, would give most people a good chance of competing well enough.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
have you done that King Cobra track? Fucking hell that's a pain.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I don't really like any of those snake tracks. They lack any real rhythm and the corners don't flow very nicely. particularly in powerful cars, it's a really frustrating track because you just never can use the power. I suppose it's very challenging but it's not rewardingly so in the way that, for instance, the Norschleiffe is.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
quote:
Originally posted by Tilde:
I'm only level 8. Do you use a steering wheel? There's one available for xbox360 now isn't there?

There's a Wireless Racing Wheel that allegedly has force feedback, but I don't understand how that's possible without some proper mains juice to power it.
There's a microsoft wireless one with force feedback but it actually plugs into the mains and the wheel has a cable to the pedals. You do lose the cable trailing from the tv to the controller though. Still it's £80 so I'm not going to buy one anytime soon.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
hey, look at this motherfuckers. Any of you ***** going to buy this again? I've played the GC version a hundred times, but damn this is a good review.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Despite owning a GameCube, I haven't played Resident Evil 4 yet, so I'll probably pick it up for the Wii. Apparently the PC version suffers from console conversion syndrome.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
then you're a jerk and you shouldn't talk any more about computer games. Jerk.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I loved it on the GameCube, and held onto it to play on the Wii with the GC remote. Not sure about splashing out on it all over again, but it's pretty tempting. After all, it's a pretty fantastic game.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
you're alright nathan; you can carry on having an opinion about computer games.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Man that game was good. I spent so so long on that minigame thing to unlock all the characters and probably spent longer trying to see Ashley's pants.

I reckon I'll probably buy it as I lent my copy to someone who never bothered to give it back the bastards. Also, it should be fairly cheap so I might trade in something shit like Mario Strikers or Marvel Ultimate Alliance (although that one isn't mine so it might be a bit rude to trade it in)
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I enjoyed Resident Evil on the Playstation, but the camera angles were rather irritating. Am I to assume that 4 has a Silent Hill style perspective, with a moving camera?
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Res Evil 4 has an over-the-shoulder camera, like Gears Of War.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Loved it on the PS2. Many many happy hours spent playing RE4. It's one of those games where you're really sad when it ends because you enjoyed playing it so much.

Sadly I sold my Wii because there weren't any good games out. I'll just wit for RE5 I guess.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Hey look, they're creating a more realistic guitar for guitar hero players. No longer will you need to shut the curtains and hide your shameful secret. No more fisher price jeers from schoolchildren walking past your house. Now, finally you can look like you're actually doing something creative with your spare time. ROcK oN.
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Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Check out the Wii game listed at the bottom of this page.

I want that.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
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Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
lol
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
shamefully, I'm still playing Saint's Row.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Did you see all my new achievements on Forza 2?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'll have a look now.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I've not really played Arcade yet, but I reckon I could probably get a few more if I put a couple more hours in. I'm only one off the proving grounds achievement, but I don't have a car heavy enough to compete in the final race. Fancy 'gifting' one to me? I can give it back afterwards. Also, Hardcore and Natural should be easy as long as you use a car that's well overpowered compared to your competitors. Underdog looks hard though.

[ 29.06.2007, 08:34: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
yeah ok, you online now?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
no. I'm just looking at http://live.xbox.com
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
underdog is easier than it sounds actually. you just turn all the difficulty levels down so your opponents drive like total bennies, and you could more or less walk round and still win. You're almost guaranteed getting the 'hard charger' medal at the same time since you'll inevitably start from the back of the grid
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Also, does thorn either a) hardly ever play xbox or b) rarely connect to Live?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Can I gift it to you anyway and you pick it up when you log on?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yeah I suppose so.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
It's a standard aston martin but I remember it being pretty difficult with some yanky barge being considerably quicker. Want me to throw on a few goodies?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
sure, you know, that would be nice. In return I will cover it in offensive grafitti before I give it back to you.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
but don't get too excited about that. I just mean I'll write "cock" on the bonnet or something.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I was going to write 'benway is a gay' on the side and paint it pink
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I suppose it doesn't really matter. It's not like I'm going to go online with it. And even if I did, there's nothing wrong with being gay, ringo.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
Also, does thorn either a) hardly ever play xbox or b) rarely connect to Live?

I hardly ever connect to live. It involves bringing the modem downstairs and having all these cables stretched across the house and all the rest of it. it's a real drag, man.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Ok you'll have an Aston Martin V12 Vanquish waiting for you when you log on.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
cheers ringers.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
you know, the main thing about Forza for me that's a shame is that I don't get as attached to the cars as I used to. On Gran Turismo, I loved my little Prelude. It seemed like a real slog to get that baby up to scratch, and when I finally saved up enough to fit it out for racing, I was nearly crying with emotion at seeing her all kitted out. Forza 2 however felt like a pretty easy and short journey from my VW Gti to my first racing car. The Gti was discarded once I had all the car points for it, and I'm not tempted to give it a spin just for the sake of nostalgia.

[ 29.06.2007, 10:18: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
On Gran Turismo, I loved my little Prelude. It seemed like a real slog to get that baby up to scratch, and when I finally saved up enough to fit it out for racing, I was nearly crying with emotion at seeing her all kitted out.

I felt the same way about my old Toyota Supra.

It looked a bit like this, only with bigger pixels:
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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
For me it was an R32 skyline GTS.

I think this is one reason I prefer GT to Forza. In Forza the cars are these kind of throwaway things. It's like the celebrity/gumball attitude of just having the flashiest machine and having no real appreciation for it. There are times when you'll buy what is a reasonably nice piece of machinery just for the sake of one race. And there's no real reason to bother tweaking your settings unless you want to get onto the global leaderboads.

But yeah, I just can't feel 'attached' to Forza in the same way as Gran Turismo. It's hard to say why.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I've had my Wii for a week now, and I'm still thoroughly enjoying some of the mini-games (particularly WiiPlay billiards, table tennis, air hockey and tanks, WiiSports ten pin bowling and tennis). I've also played the first couple of levels of Eledees which is an interesting idea, but so far not quite as engaging as I'd hoped.

So anyway, I've got a few pounds worth of money left to spend on another game, or maybe two. Suggestions please!
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Thanks for the return of the car, Bignuts. I trust you found its performance satisfactory?

I really like the Benway livery. Or should that be lovery rofl
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yeah, I was able to cruise it, although I did have to bump up the hp a little bit. I'm now struggling through the pro-series A Class. First up I tried this 959 that I'd tuned up pretty well, but it couldn't keep up with the GT40. So I sold that for 30,000 and tried a 500hp acura, but that was left standing. So I bought a Gallardo, which is able to compete at about 600hp, although I've had to trade off some power for racing tyres, because otherwise it could only go in a straight line. It's really tough though. The other cars are jacked up, and very aggressive. Most races end before I get half way through the first lap, by Mr. Corvette nudging me into a spin. Stupid American drivers. I've had to turn the braking line back on [Frown]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
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[Cool]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
It sounds like you're having some problems with sucking to be honest. I did the heavyweight race with an unmodified aston. The one I lent to you was pretty pumped up.

I would probably avoid using stuff like supercars. Very powerful but ultimately heavy. Presumably you were using an Acura NSX? Try using the Honda NSX-R instead, it's so much better. Or if you want a real weapon the do-luck NSX that you win can be absolutely transformed with a few mods.

I haven't tried that race myself yet though so I'll have a go and let you know how I get on.

I would have thought though that if you're having to use the braking markers then there's a problem with your technique, rather than your car.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
once I go over 120 mph, I'm too busy freaking out to corner. My problem is that I instinctively try to gain ground by braking a little bit late and getting violent with the car, which you can't really do in the Gallardo.

[ 02.07.2007, 09:09: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
No well the gallardo is way heavy so it's not a late braking special. If you want something you can real step on at the last minute, you need something which weighs very little. Are you using ABS? You can brake slightly later without it but if you lock the wheels you're basically screwed unless you've left a margin for error and use a cadence technique to get the car turned into the corner.

Try playing with the car setup a little to get some more performance out of it. I can give you a few pointers to improve braking and cornering performance if you'd like?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
No ABS, TCM or STB - keeping it real all the way. I do brake late, and then use the oversteer to pull me round the corner. Like, brake late, turn in hard to begin oversteer, steer very slightly in the other direction to gain an arc, have a second off the gas to regain traction and then accelerate through the corner, but it's really precise stuff when you never real feel like you're 100% in control of the car. With the racing tyres I can just about keep it on the road, although it's still like driving on ice. I'm back in Atlanta now, and I know that track. The first track of the contest was new to me, hence why I had the braking assists on. It's a tough car, but I can just about keep in first if I really don't screw up, and I try and avoid the other cars from nudging me. I've not taken any of the weight out, just pumped up the engine, put it on decent wheels and adjusted the gears to give it an initial burst to haul myself into first place at the beginning of the race.

[ 02.07.2007, 09:23: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
You’ve gone about it all wrong dude. A race car should have a precise balance of power and handling. If you’ve basically just pumped up the ponies and done little else it’ll handle like a greasy weasel. Full weight reduction should be one of the first things you do to any car, as it improves every aspect of the car’s performance.

Most of the suspension and drivetrain modifications don’t push the level up much either so it’s much better to have a car with virtually standard power but a vastly improved drivetrain including brakes, suspension, anti roll bars etc etc. Mostly because these things can be tweaked to improve the car further without increasing the car’s level.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yeah but this one goes up to 11.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I'm so glad Ringo talked me out of buying this game. It sounds like a nightmare.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
It's absorbing stuff.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
It sounds like it, but it sounds waaaay too in depth for me. Anyway, I'm not buying anything until GTA IV comes out, now.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
It's really not that good to be honest. Save your money. If you really want to know whatit's like just get a second hand copy of the original Forza and imagine what it would be like if it had very slightly better graphics and actually had fewer tracks.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
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Nazi Rally
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
Nazi Rally

I wonder if the Westboro Baptist Church have a presence in Forza. I'd be well miffed if I got overtaken by an SUV emblazoned with GOD HATES YOUR FAG CAR or GOD LAUGHS WHEN FAGS CRASH.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I didn't know Snorton had an Xbox! ROFLE!
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
^^ Because he's into Nazis, you see.. and if he was tricking out a... you know... that Nazi car is probably the sort of car he would... because he's... you know.... Do you see.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
ha ha
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Actually, although I initially found the car customisation feature in forza2 frustrating, after fiddling about with it I actually quite like it. Once you actually create a scheme you can save it and apply it to other cars and it's quite satisfying.

Anyone else done any painting?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
when are you going to add me? Also, where are you on the internet?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Could we do a TMO sprint race? I'd enjoy that. I don't how to make online races work. I tried it once and got a load of asian kids shouting swearwords at me [Frown]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
tilde I did some painting, but somebody has made it go off the internet. I posted it up yesterday.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
The 'upload an image over one someone already posted' joke is getting really fucking old now isn't it. And it's so obvious who it is that's doing it.

Can Misc not do something about it?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I've put it back
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
I found the lettering really frustrating until I realised that the best way to do it was to load all the letters in first, over the top of each other and not fuck around with the size or position or anything, Then space the letters out to form the word, then group the layers together and then resize the whole group. That made everything much better.

Then I started messing with the vignettes and the special colours - metallics and the ones that shine different colours depending on where the light hits them. It's really a nice feature and the options are so unlimited.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Can Misc not do something about it?

No, I don't really like to touch code anymore. I see it as beneath me.

Someone else is welcome to have a go if they want though. I guess the ASP just needs a line or two to check if the filename already exists and return an error message if this is the case.

Any code monkeys about?
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
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[Cool]

lol

ETA: it wasn't me who painted over it. [Roll Eyes]

[ 03.07.2007, 07:34: Message edited by: Tilde ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Some people really are very talented. Probably if you've not used the graphic editor then the ones below wont look that impressive, but to those who know how much effort goes in, these are astonishing


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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
No, I don't really like to touch code anymore. I see it as beneath me.

Someone else is welcome to have a go if they want though. I guess the ASP just needs a line or two to check if the filename already exists and return an error message if this is the case.

Any code monkeys about?

I offered to fix this over a year ago. [Mad]

[ 03.07.2007, 07:33: Message edited by: ralph ]
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Links all fucked dude ETA to ringo

[ 03.07.2007, 07:35: Message edited by: Tilde ]
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
I offered to fix this over a year ago. [Mad]

Quick look on the web throws up this bit of code which should be easy enough to tweak:

Use the FileExists method of the FileSystemObject from ASP to check if the file exists.

code:
Dim fs, strFileNameAndPath

strFileNameAndPath = Your file name
' -- Use file name and path
' -- from the database. Remember to map it
' -- to the Web Server's point of view.
' -- Use Server.MapPath for help.

Set fs = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
If fs.FileExists(strFileNameAndPath) Then
' -- file exists
else
' -- file does not exist
end if


 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
pisses


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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
One of you want to tell me your email address so I can send you the ASP file(s)?

Presumably you just need uploadfunc.asp ?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Sure. Send it to me at sms10101 AT hotmail DOT com. I've got nothing better to do right now.

[ 03.07.2007, 07:44: Message edited by: ralph ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Is that your real address now, because I don't think the last one worked...

[Confused]

ETA: Are you a fan of Yes and Kansas, Steve?

[ 03.07.2007, 07:54: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
yes, that's a valid address...
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
ETA: Are you a fan of Yes and Kansas, Steve?

lol. stupid google. [Mad]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Did you get the e-mail, Steve?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Yes. I'm looking at it now. Get back to you very soon.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
CYI Misc.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
CYI Misc.

Okay - it should be live now.

ETA: LOL @ powered by ralphbear
ETA2: Seems to work.
ETA3: Cheers, Steve. Nice one.

[ 03.07.2007, 09:22: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Success! No more image overlay! Huzzah!

eta: You're most welcome, Anthony.

eta: There you go Ringo. The guy who probably abused the image upload gag more than anyone has fixed it. Just for you.

[ 03.07.2007, 09:24: Message edited by: ralph ]
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
Success! No more image overlay! Huzzah!

I miss the good old days. [Frown]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Me too. [Frown]

kicks self in testicles
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Why even pretend that you haven't written in some devious code so you can haxx0r your way in an ruin my images?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
lol. I actually considered doing just that. But I didn't.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I'm playing Rainbow Six Go To Las Vegas at the moment, or rather I bought it yesterday and played for an hour. It's pretty fucking great, so far as a can tell, with a cover system quite similar to and almost as effective as Gears of War. The graphics are absolutely gorgeous, and there's some fun options for entering a room; you can set up members of The Rainbow Gang to cover a different door, and then you all burst in guns blazing, at the same time. It kind of gives you the feeling of being a part of the well-oiled Rainbow Gang. Or, it would if I didn't keep doing things like throwing a grenade when I meant to open a door and blowing myself up. Anyway - it's a good bet for people who enjoyed Ghost Recon, or Gears of War, or for PS3 owners who want to play something similar to either of those games but can't because they bought a PS3.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I read a review of Rainbow Sicks Vegas and apparently it's a bit dumbed down comnpared to the previous games in the series. I might download the PC trial version at some point, anyway.

I started playing Zelda on the Wii last night. This is my first Zelda game and I probably only played for an hour or so, but I'm not terribly impressed so far. Am I missing something, or does the game pick up significantly as you get into it?

Resident Evil 4 should arrive today. [Smile]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Resident Evil 4 is a bomb.

I can quite believe that The Rainbow Six Do Las Vegas is dumbed down from previous R6 games, but I never played any of the others so I don't care. A lot of the time with PC tactical shooters 'dumbed down' usually just means 'playable'. The PC gaming community tends to think they've been delivered an intellectual short hand if a computer game doesn't feature nineteen keyboard shortcuts, each pulling up five opions in a tactical menu, innumerable weapons customisations that make an imperceptible difference in their performance, and can be picked up by a new player in less than a week.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
Resident Evil 4 is a bomb.

I can quite believe that The Rainbow Six Do Las Vegas is dumbed down from previous R6 games, but I never played any of the others so I don't care. A lot of the time with PC tactical shooters 'dumbed down' usually just means 'playable'. The PC gaming community tends to think they've been delivered an intellectual short hand if a computer game doesn't feature nineteen keyboard shortcuts, each pulling up five opions in a tactical menu, innumerable weapons customisations that make an imperceptible difference in their performance, and can be picked up by a new player in less than a week.

I know what you're saying, but I quite enjoyed the tactical aspect of the previous games. You could set up a detailed plan of action before each mission, which was half the fun of the game. The many different ways of going about a mission added to the replayability. But I seem to remember it was all optional and you could just choose a default plan and get straight into the action, if desired.

I'm not sure how much of the tactical side is included in RS:V but I imagine it might not suit the pick-up-and-play nature of a console game.

I tried to say 'console game' without making it sound like a put-down, but it did anyway, didn't it? Sorry.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
finished Saints Row on Sunday. Strange ending. Unsatisfactory. Rocked out on Guitar Hero so hard that I started to feel that I was melding with the controller somehow, and that I'd ascended to a zen like state of timing and co-ordination.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Has anyone heard about Mirror's Edge, the forthcoming game from the people who made Battlefield?

quote:
At this time, we are not revealing anything more than the fact that we are changing the way that players are able to move in first person. No more restrictions, no more being blocked by simple barriers such as walls and fences. We want to enable the player to move like a real person, with the ability to run, jump, vault and slide in a way that has never been seen before in a first-person game.
It sounds/looks interesting.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
I'm just checking out some of the footage from E3, some new halo 3 stuff and PGR trailers.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
tilde was that a twitter post.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
it's all so confusing.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
anybody following E3? No? No.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I don't like looking at Gamespot at work - too obvious. Can you give me a precis of E3?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Well, I've only been able to catch snippets. I did watch the end of the nintendo presentation yesterday and Miyamoto/ Reggie were showing off a new Wii attachment that's basically one of those steps you use in step aerobics, and it links into a game called Wii Fit. Wii Fit didn't look great - like Wii Sports only with an exercise angle, but the combination of the wii remote and the step could maybe make for some interesting games.

Silent Hill 5 comes out next year for Ps3 / Xbox

New, slimmer/cheaper PSP coming out

Sony showed some pretty awesome GT5 footage

That's all I can remember. I'll have a proper look tonight.

[ 12.07.2007, 05:36: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Nintendo stuff

link goes to proper adult website, so you're okay to look at it.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
I don't like looking at Gamespot at work - too obvious. Can you give me a precis of E3?

That's why Ghostzilla exists, m9. Can't really do video footage though.

*Wii Fit looks like stupid fun - comes with a 'Balance Board' which seems to contain four weighing scales. It can detect whether you're leaning more on your left or right foot, and front-back movement. The games that come with it include hula hoop spinning, yoga, and dancing.

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ETA: Beated by BigNuts

[ 12.07.2007, 05:40: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Oh Good - a game where I can finally show off my famous sense of balance. [Frown]

Silent Hill 5 on the Xbox, eh? That must have made little Benway very happy.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
You don't fancy an online game of Wii Super Mug Carry Challenge then Thorn?

More up your street perhaps?
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Above looks pretty pointless really. It's just a gun shaped frame to stick your remote and nunchuck in. Apparently it will be $20 in the states and will come with a Wii Play style set of mini games. They've also announced a Wii Wheel for the forthcoming Mario Kart game. Nothing special.

[ 12.07.2007, 05:49: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
It's good news alright, although the bare details didn't make it sounds brilliant - you play a war veteran searching for your brother. You know, who would give a shit if their brother vanished? Not quite the same as daughter or wife.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
You don't fancy an online game of Wii Super Mug Carry Challenge then Thorn?

Since I stopped getting paralytically drunk four times a week, my mug carrying skills have improved to the point where I can now carry two at a time. Although this has to be on a flat surface with no doors on the route. I still flip out and start spilling if I encounter any obstacles, or if someone starts talking to me and breaks my concentration.

[ 12.07.2007, 05:49: Message edited by: Nathan Bleak ]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
It's good news alright, although the bare details didn't make it sounds brilliant - you play a war veteran searching for your brother. You know, who would give a shit if their brother vanished? Not quite the same as daughter or wife.

I dunno man. If my wife went missing I'd feel like I'd been let out on parole.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
if you can get over the fact that the gun is basically like a kiddie fisher price version of a real gun, then that could actually be totally awesome. Imagine playing "Mall Rampage 2" using that thing. Sweet.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Fils-Aime - cuddly or creepy?
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
if you can get over the fact that the gun is basically like a kiddie fisher price version of a real gun,

[Roll Eyes]

See, the big difference between that and the Guitar Hero controller is that one can't sit in their living room and shoot people with a real gun, whereas one can play real guitar equally as readily as pretend plastic guitar.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
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Creepy.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yeah reggie is pretty scary.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
On sunday I was playing Guitar Hero with my friend who's an actual guitarist, and he managed to enjoy it. Maybe his fun-crushing Protestant Work Ethic isn't as strong as yours, eh thorn? [Wink]

[ 12.07.2007, 06:23: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
actually I'm tired of this argument. I've already won it; there's no point in repeatedly twisting the knife.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
On sunday I was playing Guitar Hero with my friend who's an actual guitarist, and he managed to enjoy it. Maybe his fun-crushing Protestant Work Ethic isn't as strong as yours, eh thorn? [Wink]

This is just like... if a spastic was friends with another spastic, it still wouldn't make it acceptable to be a spastic.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
YOU'RE the spastic.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
lol
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
*IGN have a more detailed play test of Wii Fit.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I'm actually seriously contemplating selling both my x360 and PS3, partially because the more cash i can raise and put towards buying my car the better, and also because I haven't played on either in a fortnight.

I just don't seem to enjoy games as much as I used to. They used to be a huge part of my life and lots of my mates would get together and play together. I did think it was due to a drop off in the quality of the games. I 'peaked' at just the right time I think, when games like Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, Gran Turismo, Soul Reaver, Tony Hawks Pro Skater, games like these were fresh and new and offered something we'd never experienced before. I think these games had something that modern titles don't have: originality. Everything now is a sequel of something else, or a game which tries to capture something that another game had before it. It seems like now, in order to be original, games are just bcoming gimmicky, and that's no good.

I think, if I'm really honest, I might have to find a new hobby.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
I think, if I'm really honest, I might have to find a new hobby.

Looks like our little Ringo is growing up. [Smile]

Have you considered any hobby in particular?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I think 'not spending money on shit I don't need' is a good idea for a hobby. And requires surprisingly little effort.

Although I've still got my nitro RC car.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
wow - look, ringo's about to make a major life change!
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
wall climbing looks like a good, wholesome hobby.
 
Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
 
lol
 
Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by squeegy:
lol

Where would TMO be without my creative input eh?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
wall climbing looks like a good, wholesome hobby.

I think going outside, seeing friends, that kind of thing, that's a really good alternative.

It's hardly a lifestyle change. I'm just selling a couple of consoles I don't really use. I'm keeping my PS2, because PS2 is frankly great.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
once GT5 comes out, you'll buy another PS3.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Yeah I've been thinking about that. See I look at it this way: Say I sell my PS3 for like £300-£350. Chances are, by the time GT5 comes out (let's face it, it's going to be another 12 months) the console is going to have come down in price to that sort of price anyway. So it's not like I'm losing anything. Besides I've got plenty of time to save up for another one if I need to.
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
My Xbox is completely fucked. I suspect there's something wrong with the chip, as I can't play any of the 90-odd copied games that came with it, or any DVDs whatsoever. Serves me right for buying a chipped machine I guess. Ah well, it worked for a good year and a half.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
To be fair, if you've had one working for 18 months, you've beaten the odds, chip or no chip
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
If you haven't played Virtua Tennis 3, you haven't lived. I think I may have falled in love with the player I created, particularly now I've unlocked the hot-pants and vest outfit.

Does anyone else share my affection for this near perfect game?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I just ordered ICO for the PS2. I know it's not a new game, but it is excellent.

In other news I still have my PS3 and i'm still mulling over whether or not to sell it. I have sold the X360 becasue I decided that Forza 2 is actually not very good after all and everyone is just wrong.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
still playing Castlevania on Xbox live arcade. Got the end of the inverted castle, but Dracula killed me. Also been playing a demo of a game called "Ace Combat 6" - it's a jet combat game with lots of dog fighting and missile lock and the like, but it's got to be the most beautiful looking thing I've ever seen. Just flying around doing stunts is genuinely thrilling. I used to love flying games on the Amiga, and I'm hoping that this one has enough mission variation to compliment the insanely detailed grapics.

I would recommend anybody with an xbox to get online and download this thing. For the first time, my HDTV has earned it's keep.

In other computer game news: Picked up Sam & Max again, and I'm enjoying that. Played through a couple of episodes on saturday. I hope they do more of them. Also been on the half life 2. Burning through Episode One at the moment, and will probably get Episode Two when I'm done. I'm remembering why I used to be into PC gaming.

[ 16.07.2007, 05:36: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
The Ace Combat series is great. I used to love playing flight sims on my PC, the more realistic the better. I decided I had become too geeky and needed to give them up when I spent an entire weekend making round the world trips piloting a Boeing 747 on Microsoft Flight Sim, and actually genuinely enjoying it.

I wish I could fly planes. Although my ideal job would be a race driver, my second ideal job would be an airline pilot.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Playing Forza2 at the moment. It's one game at a time for me. Finally got to level 20 and started to win some decent cars. Including this Nissan V8 thing
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which allowed me to complete the Hardcore achievement on a race called Big Block Shootout and still thrash the other cars. Unlocking achievements is pretty satisfying isn't it?

Also tried manual shifting which isn't as hard as I feared and does add another dimension to the game.

Also because I turned off some of the assists now I'm earning some actual money, I've now got $200,000 in the bank. I had a look through the auctions last night but couldn't really find anything that I really wanted to commit to. I guess most of the cars are sold on their paintjobs. Are there any cars I should buy in that price range?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
why don't you want to be friends with me? [Frown]
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Don't want to cross the streams.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
bah.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
I'm pathetic
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm finsbury78.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
We're already friends though right?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
are you NEVBOY then?
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
no, i mean here.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Oh, I see. Yeah. I - yeah. We're good friends, right?
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Yeh... *high five*
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
oh I see you were being sarcastic. [Frown]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
no, that wasn't sarcastic... I thought you were going to dump me or something.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
ok, i guess we're cool.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I guess.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Benway has a bit of a complex about rejection, since Mum locked him in the attic for 8 years. He was doing ok but all that stuff with Thorn really set him off again.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
just because somebody says they like you, doesn't mean they really do. You have to test their loyalty to find out.

[ 16.07.2007, 10:35: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Played on the PS3 for the first time yesterday. First off the GTHD demo. I wasn't overly impressed with it, graphically it was ok but the way the cars handled just seemed horrible however switching off the traction control and ASM made it more fun. Having the X button for the accelerator seemed crap compared to forza, no subtle control and I actually took my thumb off the analogue stick and put it back on the D pad for the steering, not so good, although I'm sure you can set up the controller in a better way.

Anyhow unlocked a few cars then got a bit bored and stuck motorstorm in.

Now this was a bit more like it, graphically pretty awesome and instantly fun. Loved the different vehicles and how they relate in different ways to the various areas of track. Fantastic crash scenes and it wasn't as easy to win a race as I expected it to be.

One thing I did notice was it often seemed slow to load things - like in motorstorm when choosing your vehicles or waiting for a track to load.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I played a bit of motorstorm in January. It seemed very...orange.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
The buttons are pressure sensitive. Once you get used to it, you have more subtle control using the X button than one of the triggers on an xbox controller. You can also switch the configuration so the shoulder triggers are throttle and brake but this didn't seem so easy to use for me.

GT:HD needs to be played with a force feedback steering wheel to be fully appreciated though.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
LOL, Nintendo are recalling all copies of Mario Party 8 due to some poor translation:

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Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
lol
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
This may well be common knowledge, but I feel compelled to share in case it isn't.

The Wii Opera Browser supports Flash which means that you can play certain Flash games with your Wii Remote. Obviously this only works with games that use the mouse. After a quick Google, I found a great site called *Wii Playable which is optimized for viewing on the Wii, and lists a huge number of free games.

Hours of free Wii fun. [Cool]

[ 19.07.2007, 04:56: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
welcome to last year!
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
[Embarrassed] Well I fucking apologize then! [Embarrassed]

So what's your favourite Flash game for the Wii, Jimmy Big Nuts?
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
I've also noticed that they've improved the buffering of streaming videos since the last upgrade of the Wii Browser and now it has no problems watching full length episodes of TV programs.

I had a lovely time last night browsing Tv-links and watching lots of Brasseye
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SilverGinger5:
I had a lovely time last night browsing Tv-links and watching lots of Brasseye

OMG! Un marathon de << The Secret World of Alex Mack >> chez Misque ce soir!
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
On the Forza2 theme. I've amassed some money and Im thinking about buying a car that I can tune up to win races. Any idea which one is best to go for, I've got about 200,000 and I guess I'm looking for the best car in each class ultimately. There's so many cars, it's confusing.

Also there's a ton of Ferraris but I haven't unlocked any yet, how do you get them unlocked?
 
Posted by squirrelandgman (Member # 201) on :
 
This is probably quite entertaining with the wii.

I've been playing Blue Dragon. It's alright. Looks nice.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tilde:
On the Forza2 theme. I've amassed some money and Im thinking about buying a car that I can tune up to win races. Any idea which one is best to go for, I've got about 200,000 and I guess I'm looking for the best car in each class ultimately. There's so many cars, it's confusing.

Also there's a ton of Ferraris but I haven't unlocked any yet, how do you get them unlocked?

you could try the auction house. That's where I bought my piece of shit lamborghini. You can have that if you like.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
I've been looking at the auction house a bit, I figured a Ferrari Enzo would be cool, what are they to buy normally through the game 250,000?

Anyway last night I got a golf and tried to make it into the best class C car so when I get an online race with the class C limit on it I can load that in FTW!

I'm going to try and do that for all the classes. I was wondering if there is an optimum car in each class, but I guess you can tune most cars up to be as competitive as possible.
 
Posted by squirrelandgman (Member # 201) on :
 
The Darkness demo is alright. Good maybe.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I've just got Rainbow Six Veges and Call of Duty 3. Does anybody want to do co-op missions with me for massive pointage.

This weekend I mostly played Viva Pinata and GRAW. Finished GRAW on normal, and now I'm playing it on Hard mode. Hard mode is harder. Like on CoD, you generally go down with one bullet. Can be frustrating, but the more I play GRAW, the more I enjoy it. Got 440 points on that now, and soon it'll be time to try and conquer multiplayer, although I tried it again last night, and as usual was being sniped constantly every time I moved.

Also play an hour or so of Forza. Gone past level 30 now. Played my first multiplayer. Lost every race.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tilde:
I've been looking at the auction house a bit, I figured a Ferrari Enzo would be cool, what are they to buy normally through the game 250,000?

Anyway last night I got a golf and tried to make it into the best class C car so when I get an online race with the class C limit on it I can load that in FTW!

I'm going to try and do that for all the classes. I was wondering if there is an optimum car in each class, but I guess you can tune most cars up to be as competitive as possible.

I find that the best cars tend to be ones that you win. You can go through without buying cars at all. In fact, I've only bought two so far - the GTi at the beginning of the game, and the Lamborghini. When I hit level 30, Ferrari sent me a car. The recent annoying thing I had was where I took this '85 911 and basically blew thousands and thousands on maxing it out with all the best equipment. It's now completely impossible to drive the damn the thing. It goes from 0-100 in about 3 seconds, but it can't corner at all. I've tweaked the rollbars, the brake ratio, the suspension ratio and the downforce, but it just won't take a corner. [Frown]
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
I've been playing Star Wars Lego II on the PS2 for the first time over the weekend. It's fun.
 
Posted by squirrelandgman (Member # 201) on :
 
I'm quite looking forward to Sensible Soccer on xbox live.
I liked Sensible Soccer on the Amiga. Much better than Kick Off don't you think?
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by squirrelandgman:
I liked Sensible Soccer on the Amiga. Much better than Kick Off don't you think?

I suspect this is the most important question that has ever been asked on TMO and I don't think it is one that can be answered in one sentence.

Both Sensible Soccer and Kick Off (2) were fantastic games. Very very different versions of the beautiful game but both loveable in their own ways.

Kick Off 2 was a vast improvement over the original Kick Off and was vastly customisable. Boggy pitches, Icy pitches, different harshnesses of refs (anyone remember S. Screech on the Amiga version, pretty much a red card for every foul), many different leagues/cups etc. However, the meat of the game is where it really shone. Upon first picking up the game you would struggle to run the ball into the opponents goal if they had no players as this was one of the few games that didn't have "ball sticks to foot" physics.

Thus many people were frustrated by Kick Off before being able to fully get into it. However when you got some practice time in, you could do lovely little bits of skill entirely due to the fact that the ball wasn't stuck to your foot.

Overall 9/10 (and it spawned Player Manager which was a great footy management game with Kick Off 2 gameplay).

Sensible Soccer

Again, lots of options. National, Club and "Joke" teams. More cups and leagues than you would have any idea what to do with. Kit customisation.

Now, this was basically a football arcade game. Anyone could pick up this game and be shooting at goal within minutes. (Not necessarily scoring but still shooting). However, just because a game is easy to pick up doesn't mean it's necessarily shallow and Sensible Soccer definitely didn't disappoint. The ability to change tactics on the fly was good. (The ability to score from right at the wing just over the half way line every single time with a massive lofted curler perhaps not so good but it looked fantastic).

Overall 9/10

So. As you can see, it's not so cut and dry. With the ties scored I've had to give the win to Kick Off 2 as Sensible Soccer had the really annoying coding which meant that when you had scored 8 goals in a game the opposition keeper suddenly became about 8 times as good which unfortunately left about 75% of games between experienced players as an 8-8 draw.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:

Also play an hour or so of Forza. Gone past level 30 now. Played my first multiplayer. Lost every race.

I've played a few online games now, initially struggled but it's a bit better now that I've maxed a few cars out in their respective classes.

This car is my best B class car at the moment. I've got a load of B class cars for some reason.
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I'll probably have to buy a D class or de-level one of my b class as I've only got two D class cars in my garage. I took a VW Golf up to C class but concentrated on making it light and the handling really good, but lost every online race as it was underpowered, I had to have a good look at it and take off all the handling tweaks and just try and get it to fast as possible. Since then I have had more success with it.

I'm up to level 25 now and I got my first R4 car last night. It's a good game although much of it is a repetitive slog that I only sit through in order to unlock a new car.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I started playing Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree last night. I've never played the DS version, but I found it extrememly easy to get to grips with, and I like the idea of these games that you spend a few minutes on every day, and can track your progress. My brain started around 900g and after a little dicking around now weighs 1270g. Odd that it doesn't feel any heavier, but I'm sure The Academy knows best.

I wonder if I pass the Wii Degree, would it be appropriate to mention it on my CV? It's probably more valuable to a potential employer than my real degree.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
didn't have much time to play games last night, and I doubt I'll have a chance until saturday now. Started on Rainbow Six Vegas on realistic mode. Hard. Harder than GRAW in the same mode. In GRAW, at least once you know where the bad guys are, you can generally work out how to shoot them before they see you. Rainbow Six seems more open ended. The bad guys run around more, act more like other people. The environments are more complex and less like linear paths. Also, you don't have a health meter, instead as you're getting shot you lose your vision, but within 5-10 seconds you're back to full health. But hell's teeth it doesn't take much to kill you. The bad guys literally take you down the second they see you. I'm getting killed twenty times between each checkpoint, often thanks to just poking my head over a barrel for a second just to see what's coming up, or leaning ever so slightly round a corner. I couldn't get to sleep for ages after playing because I was so strung out from creeping about expecting to be executed at any moment.

I'm going to go on the internet and find somebody else with the game who wants to play co-op. I reckon it could be awesome.

[ 24.07.2007, 05:33: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
I started playing Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree

I played a fair amount of Dr. Kawashima, which is pretty good. It does kind of sharpen you up in terms of your competency at the challenges it sets you. My favourite game was going two player head to head on the basic arithmetic. So simple - just adding, multiplying and subtracting - but the challenge of trying to do the 15 or 20 sums before somebody else in real time was compelling. After a couple of weeks of daily challenges with my friend in work, my times tables became an instant reflex. Which they weren't before or after.
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
I know that Halo is nearly six years old, but seeing as it's the only game that works on my Xbox now, I've been playing it obsessively for the past week or so. I gave up playing it after finding myself stuck in a 'dead end', but recently succeeded in getting off the troublesome level and am not far off completing it. Time seems to vanish when I'm playing Halo. I came in from snooker last night at about 11-30 and decided I'd have a quick go for an hour or so. This 'hour' turned unwittingly into just over three hours. It's been a while since a game's had me as absorbed as this one currently does. Amazing. Luckily I've got Halo 2 as well, so that's me sorted for the foreseeable future.

[ 24.07.2007, 07:05: Message edited by: Zygote ]
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
I'm saving up for this
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fully functioning warthog
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I never got that far with Halo, and never understood what the fuss was about. My xbox started having trouble reading discs and complained that they were "dirty or damaged" when they clearly weren't. It's a shame as I've got quite a few i'd like to revisit, including the original Forza. Perhaps a set of torx screwdrivers and a can of compressed air will give the old box a new lease of life...

[ 24.07.2007, 08:19: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I played through Halo 1 with this chick until the very end where you're doing a twos-up on the warthog. An enjoyable day.
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
I never got that far with Halo, and never understood what the fuss was about.

Must admit, I felt the same when I first played it. I thought, "Oh. Woo-pee-doo! Another first person shooter. Let's put fucking Outrun on. "

Admittedly, much of my early frustration was due to my becoming essentially 'lost' at a certain stage in the game, so I just gave up on it and grabbed one of the other 90-odd games that came with the Xbox. Since it's the only game I can play on my Xbox now, I decided to have another crack at it and, once you get a proper grip on the controls, the game completely opens up to you, and before you know it you're utterly absorbed. The sound effects create an incredibly tense atmosphere at times. I normally listen to music whilst playing games, but I can't with Halo, for fear of missing some vital information which will get me to the next checkpoint. This, I believe was my downfall when I first started playing it - you're hardly going to hear these 'vital clues' with heavy metal music pounding in the background, so instead you just run around aimlessly, blasting holes into objects to see if you can somehow, magically, find a way through. Which, obviously, you don't.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Hmm, perhaps I'll give it another go sometime if I get the ecks bocks working again. Incidentally, why can you only play Halo?
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
It's the only original title that came with my Xbox. I bought a chipped one on Ebay that came with shedloads of copied games. Oh well. A mate of mine reckons he can get the chip fixed for twenty quid, so I'll get it done eventually. Need to complete Halo first, mind.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I'm fairly sure you're up north, but in case I'm wrong, my buddy is an Xpert at chipping and modifying Xboxes and would probably sort it out for not a lot of money.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
I'm fairly sure you're up north, but in case I'm wrong, my buddy is an Xpert at chipping and modifying Xboxes and would probably sort it out for not a lot of money.

Ringo, if you could give me an idea of price for a DVD lens replacement and mod-chip installation, I might be very interested. I don't know much about modding, but I'm interested in XBMC and playing backed-up games.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
For the original xbox, yeah? I can find out for you.

As far as I know it's generally a case of replacing the whole drive rather than just the lens. You can either have a direct OEM replacement or a third party one but the third party drive might not work with all games when the mod chip is activated. I think. I'll find out.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
For the original xbox, yeah? I can find out for you.

As far as I know it's generally a case of replacing the whole drive rather than just the lens. You can either have a direct OEM replacement or a third party one but the third party drive might not work with all games when the mod chip is activated. I think. I'll find out.

Yes, original xbox. And tbh, I'm not even sure if the drive needs replacing. It might just need a good clean.

Anyway, it seems like you're not getting the most out of your xbox unless you chip it. It would make a handy media centre for the bedroom.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Spoken to John and he reckons £45 would cover the chip and a new lens (which you can still get apparently).

As he points out, you could probably find a modded xbox for sale for that kind of price, but it's up to you really.

Bear in mind the chips haven't actually come down in price any, which is why it's so expensive.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Thanks for th info, Ringo. I'll have a fiddle about to see if I can clean the lens and I'll let you know.

Just out of interest, do you happen to know what it would cost to chip a 360?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I'll find out about the 360 chip. If you just wanted the xbox chipping it'd be £35
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Apparently there is no 'chip' for the 360, just a bodge for the DVD drive, which John doesn't do
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
I'm fairly sure you're up north, but in case I'm wrong, my buddy is an Xpert at chipping and modifying Xboxes and would probably sort it out for not a lot of money.

Cheers for the offer Ringo. I am indeed up north, unfortunately. I'll be seeing my mate later on anyhow, so I'll remind him about getting my chip fixed. I'm getting withdrawal symptoms from not playing Outrun. Ach.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
owners of PCs will be pleased to know that Telltale have announced season two of Sam and Max. I've just started "Reality 2.0" in the first season - how far have you got?

[ 26.07.2007, 06:32: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
finally played some multiplayer Rainbow six. Two kills to twelve deaths. Some guy called me an asshole. Fail.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Still working my way through Resident Evil 4, which continues to impress me. Also playing Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree and currently have a brain weight of 1,478g. Reached a hard fought #1 seeding in Virtua Tennis.

My appetite for physics-based games is currently being sated by the frighteningly addictive freeware wonder of * Walaber's Trampoline.

 -
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Forza 2 Exhibition Races - Nurenburg 2 laps

Time 11:45pm

This is the third time I've attempted this, I'm in an Audi something or other, it's class S, upgraded to the the absolute limits of it's class. I've got slicks, I've got a lightweight flywheel, it handles and it's fast in a straight line and it brakes good. It's got 4wd, it's definately the best car I've got for the job. The first lap goes well, 8mins may not be enough to get me in the hot lap leaderboards top 10 but I've got a 15 second lead on the next car, and that's a decent comfort zone.

Lap 2, the split times are green, that's good, I'm hammering through a straight section with gentle curves about 3 minutes in, the car topping out at 306kmh. My lead is increasing, I try to remember to breathe and blink, my heart rate is slightly increased even though I haven't moved from my seat in the last half hour. I'm thinking I could write a post about this moment if I could be bothered. My eyes flick to the text that flashed up on the screen, I squint, "car behind 18 seconds". A moment, a blink, a breath. On the grass, tickle the barricade, I'm spinning. 360 degrees..shit...it's..it's ok, not too bad, straight back on the gas and on the track, I've still got the lead, I can afford a spin. But now there's a small white dot visible behind me.

Focus, forget it, run your own race, relax, breathe, just don't blink, ignore the itch on your nose. Another 2 minutes drags past, I'm wishing time forward, I maintain the gap but don't improve, theres the sound of an engine screaming behind me somewhere, I chance a glance in the rearview... grass... barricade... spin 540 degrees...FUCK. I'm facing the barricade, reverse, accelerate accelerate ACCELERATE!. Two cars are directly behind me, they do something I've never seen before, they both try and overtake me on either side. I am an audi filling in this car sandwich. I take a nudge. I career off to the right. I actually stand up at this point and shout "COME ON!!!" then sit down again, it's over, i know it's over but I still have to see it through. I catch one but now I'm on the home straight and the car in front is 3 seconds in front, it's an impossible gap. A silver place finish and I've got to do it again to unlock my achievement point reward. An hour of my life wasted on this one race and another 20 minute try tomorrow.

[ 08.08.2007, 08:19: Message edited by: Tilde ]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
That was really [Cool]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
good luck with that, IAN. I once did a five lap rance around that track on PGR with a load of other guys and my hands were nearly falling off by the end of it. Needless to say, I came last. I haven't yet tried it on Forza.

What level you at now?
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
27
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Damn you. I want to buy a '360 now. [Mad]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
nice one.


Last night I played Rainbow Six, as usual. Made it through one room in the Chinese Casino. Took me about two hours to go 50 metres. I'm getting better at it though, slowly. I've learned that almost the only way of playing in Realistic mode is by having your men in a different place to you as much as possible, to split the enemy fire. Also, once things go quiet, it doesn't mean it's time to poke your head above cover, but instead it's time to leave the room and try and get a new angle on the scene.

The main problem I have is being unable to see who is shooting me. Also, sometimes the save points seem quite far apart, so you can die and lose about half an hour of stealthy, steady progress from one unseen enemy getting one round to your head. Still. I rescued some chick last night.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I got WipEout for my PS3 last night. I forgot how fuckign difficult that game it. Totally sweet though. Not as good as 2097.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I have just got hold of Heroes of Might and Magic V. Gad!
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I've spent the last two nights playing Resident Evil 4 on the Wii. Fucking hell, it's good. I'm appreciating it a lot more the second time around, the extent of the pacing, the sheer variety of it. Plus playing with the Wii-mote is a real joy - every bit as intuitive as a mouse. It does make things quite a bit easier, but finishing each chapter with a hit-rate in the 90s is pretty satisfying, and it's a bit wank if shortcomings in the game's interface contribute to it being a lot harder. I wish Nintendo would release some more great shooters for the wii now.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I think this is my main problem with playing FPS on consoles (not counting the Wii) because the control systems seems to artificially increase the difficulty. Not because it’s inaccurate, but in order to stop the game feeling twitchy, the rate of movement is just too slow compared to control systems which respond intuitively to subtle movements of your limbs, like a mouse or a wii-mote.

Playing UT on a console is a painfully frustrating experience. No matter how good you get at playing a game like that with a conventional game controller, even if you achieve zen-like accuracy and control, you’d still get your ass handed to you by a relatively mediocre player using a mouse and keyboard.

Although obviously RE4 isn’t a pure FPS, so this doesn’t have so much relevance in that respect.

In other news, have you seen the trailers for RE5? OMG OMG!!! :bone:
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
I hate it when you all talk about video games.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
An arcade-perfect port of House of the Dead for the Wii would be enough to lure me back I think. THey'd have to do the clacky guns though, it wouldn't be the same without them. In blue and pink.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
Plus playing with the Wii-mote is a real joy - every bit as intuitive as a mouse.

Yes, there's something really engaging about the little things like reloading by holding the trigger and flicking the Wiimote upwards. I wish the knife-play were a little more representative of your actual movements though, rather than a standard left-right animation. Wot, no stabbing?

Great game though, and I'm glad I waited for the Wii version.
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
I'm playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R Shadow Of Chernobyl at the moment, so far I'm loving the graphics and highly atmospheric sound, and the subtle touches such as people getting a bit narked if you actively point your gun at them, but I am finding it extremely easy to get my arse kicked in a fairly devastating way if I'm not careful. So far so good though.

RE4 for the Wii definitely has to be my next purchase i think..
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I read that as
quote:
Originally posted by Physic:
...such as people getting a bit naked if you actively point your gun at them

Yeah, only a bit naked. If you want full-frontal nudity, you'll have to upgrade to a shotgun.

Seriously though, I've barely scratched the surface of Stalker, but the shootouts have been difficult yet very entertaining so far.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Update: I completed the track, after trying 4 different cars, (U class ferrari, B Class Mitsubishi, A Class Focus) and finally settling on a D class mini cooper. It felt like more of a scenic drive in the countryside but at least I managed to stay on the road most of the time. Annoyed that I got 2 achievements and 40 points and no actual achievement sound or indication that they had been unlocked. I turned the sound up and everything...
 -  -
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
the shootouts have been difficult yet very entertaining so far.

Totally, the realistic loss of accuracy on close to medium range weapons over longer distance in particular makes it tricky, and getting caught by a shotgun at close range hurts. Highly satisfying when you creep into a building via the rafters and drop an enemy via a single gunshot to the back of the head though [Smile]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I just bought Fight Night: Round 3, Madden NFL 06 and NBA 06, purely for the supposedly easy achivement points.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
You're joking right?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
nope. I did say on twitter that I was going to get me some points. I'm stil playing Rainbow Six, but I'm making slow progress. On the last level now. Hoover Dam. This is the third game I've played that's got a Hoover Dam level. There was one in GTA san andreas, and I think that maybe a James Bond game had one as well? Anyway, Rainbow Six on Realistic is probably the toughest game I've played in my life. On saturday I must have tried to complete this one section about twenty times before I finally nailed it (Answer: Jung to cover behind first crate / start hack / smoke grenage on computer / grab turrent behind second crate / burst fire, using 2nd smoke grenade + 2 frags when the enemies come from the lower tier), only to then go up a ladder and get smoked by a completely unseen enemy with a single headshot. You can't save when you like, so the moments after you've completed a really hard section, when you're creeping around praying to god that you don't get killed by an errant grenade are sickeningly tense, until the blessed "saving progress" words appear.

Anyway, yeah. I've never played an american football game before, but I used to like basketball games on my friends' megadrive, back in the day.

[ 13.08.2007, 07:11: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I took a break from Resident Evil 4 to download a bunch of stuff from XBox Live - including demos for Flat Out: Ultimate Carnage and Stranglehold. Flat Out looks fantastic, really cool graphics with tons of crap flying around everywhere. Stranglehold was just ridiculous. I can't really decide if it's any good or not - just an insane amount of carnage splattering aroudn the screen with Chow Yun Fat running around and falling over tables and handrails all over the place. I never really felt like I was co-ordinating the battles like in Max Payne; just blindly running around and firing at people who seemed to be appearing all over the place under conveniently placed bits of destructible scenery, which you then shoot and it falls on them. It really is ridiculous.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
nathan you should definitely look at the Ace Combat 6 demo on xbox live.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
JBN - a bit late now that you've bought it on Xbox, but I can strongly recommend Madden on the Wii. There are tons of motion controls and it seems quite intuitive and makes a lot more use of motion controlling than a lot of games which just seem to have stuck them in as an afterthought.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I only got it for the points.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
nathan you should definitely look at the Ace Combat 6 demo on xbox live.

Cheers, I'll check that out.

JBN always makes me feel quite amateurish with games, as I crawl through them on 'medium' difficulty, experiencing much the same problems he seems to get on the hardest settings. I still haven't even finished off the final boss on Crackdown, which I bought ages ago. Bioshock comes out in a couple of weeks. Jeez. I've still got to polish off Res 4, R6: Vegas, Splinter Cell: Double Agent, GRAW, and... jesus it's just too much. It's too much.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I only got it for the points.

What is the point though? You get a bigger number next to your gamerscore right?... what's the benefit? the reason? Is it the respect of your peers when you go online?

It's weird, and I'm not being sarcastic because although I've only been playing xbox360 for a little while, I'm beginning to get the urge to kind of want to unlock achievements, and I know of other people who are achievement point obsessed. It's addictive but I'm not sure why...
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
It's a penis envy sort of thing.

Xboxlive gaymers are a bunch of jealous cockwatchers
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
no, I don't have many online peers, although I have vowed to get more points than my only true xbox friend - YouSaySuck.

Achievement points are addictive simply because you get a persistant recognisible reward for playing computer games. Getting all 1000 points in Oblivion felt fantastic, even if the journey wasn't really hard so much as long. I like it when my gamerscore goes up. It's that simple. I just wish I was better at the online multiplayer stuff. Seems like half the points in a lot of new games come from online prowess, but I really am teh suck when it comes to battling other people. I can't put my heart and soul into it because I know I'm going to owned, and it hurts less if I try less. But then if I try less, I suck more.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I started playing Call of Juarez (PC) yesterday. Looks quite sexy with all the DirectX 10 whistles and bells. After about five minutes of play I'd been complimented on the size of my penis and almost received fellatio, before jumping out of a window in order to escape some angry folk with guns. It's got potential, but I hear that shooting an animal will result in the game ending. Harsh! They're not real
Keywords: western, fps, rspca

Also playing Just Cause which is a decent enough GTA style romp around a fictional island named San Esperito (definitely not Panama, not at all, no). The action can get a bit ridiculous, but I suppose it's sometimes fun to jump off a mountain, open a parachute, shoot a grappling gun at a moving vehicle, use it to paraglide for a while, drop onto the vehicle's roof, leap into the vehicle and kick the driver out, drive up to the top of the mountain and repeat the process.

Keywords: freeform, sandbox, revolution
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
It's a penis envy sort of thing.

Xboxlive gaymers are a bunch of jealous cockwatchers

I dunno. I'm very rarely on XBox Live and yet I still felt compelled to head to the top of Agency Tower and then jump off to get the Base Jumper achievement in Crackdown. And I replayed the first level of Splinter Cell: Double Agent until I got the 'Invisible Man' achievement. I mean, games like that sort of encourage you to replay them to perfection anyway. It's just that the Achievements system gives you an acknowledgement that you nailed it. It's not really about showing off; no one ever gets to see my Gamerscore. It just gives you other objectives to pursue alongside "Kill this guy/ Reach this Goal/ Win this race".

Of course that doesn't really explain buying and playing substandard games just for the achievement point. Bneway will have to explain that one.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
none of the games are substandard, you'll be pleased to hear. They've all got above an 8 on Gamespot. I could have got King Kong and TMNT if I wanted to play shit games. And I got all three games for under £50 on ebay.

I also bought Pokemon Diamond for the DS.

[ 13.08.2007, 07:51: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yeah, you're right though nathan. The achievement points are challenges that have been set by the game designers. In a gme like oblivion, you could probably finish the main storyline in about 1/3 of the time or less than it takes to get all 1000 points, and explore all the areas of the game that the developers feel are an important part of the overall experience. Even before achievement points, games have offered unlockable areas, characters, weapons etc, for going the extra mile. Getting things in return for your play is an integral part of gaming, and points are just another incentive. You could maybe argue that getting extra stuff in game is more enticing than just points, but the success of the scheme suggests otherwise. If I struggle through rainbow six on realistic and get an extra 100 points for my trouble, those 100 points mean something to me.

Also, if you're playing your xbox from inside a community, it's an extra dimension. At school, if people were playing the same game, then there was always an element of competition between who had got to what bit, who had unlocked this or that. That element of gaming never really goes away if you've always played like that. And, presumably, there are quite a few kids playing xbox 360, so this appeals to them. Look at the gaming forums - the kidz love their pointz, man.

[ 13.08.2007, 08:01: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Right, that's as may be. I can understand going the extra mile and unlocking all the extra achievements on a game you've been enjoying. But buying games which you wouldn't have bought otherwise, just because they offer an easy haul of achievement points? Come on, that's not just getting your money's worth is it.

One can't help but feel you've fallen victim to a not-so-sublte marketting ploy there m7
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I remember when games had a 'score'. In my BBC Micro days, we used an old exercise book to record our best scores. Despite hours of trying, my dad never got close to my Chuckie Egg achievements...

LOL. Pwned, pops!
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Right, that's as may be. I can understand going the extra mile and unlocking all the extra achievements on a game you've been enjoying. But buying games which you wouldn't have bought otherwise, just because they offer an easy haul of achievement points? Come on, that's not just getting your money's worth is it.

One can't help but feel you've fallen victim to a not-so-sublte marketting ploy there m7

yeah, well you won't be saying that when I've got 7000 points. BURN!! OWWWW YOU goT SeRvED!!!!!
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I don't think achievement points on those games are really a 'marketing ploy'. I think that's just a phrase you've turned up to make it sound like Big Nuts has been hoodwinked into buying games by a sinister cabal of chuckling suits, but you've used it without really thinking about what marketing is. I doubt that any games company puts their marketing department in charge of the achievement points, any more than they would put them in charge of the controller layout. And as every game has achievement points it doesn't really set the product apart if it also has achievement points. I don't really see how that could be called part of a marketing strategy, any more than any other part of the game. "Are we going to have kickass weapons in this game?" "Oh yeah, that can be part of the marketing strategy. We'll put marketing in charge of that." "Graphics?" "Oh yeah - that's marketing. They can sort that out" It's just a bit yeah. It's one of those phrases people use to make it look like they are well clued in to all the clever tricks those sneaky corporations use to try and con them, but oh no Ringo can see right through that, sort of thing, but really it just sounds thicko when you use phrases without accuracy or meaning.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
*hides behind Nathan*

yeah ringo you cock
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
hang on - m7? M7?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
there's something very wrong with the thought of Benway playing madden 2007. very, very wrong.

[ 13.08.2007, 08:58: Message edited by: ralph ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
stuff

Oh come off it. Everything about a game, its very existance, is designed to make it sellable. They don't do these things for the love of it, you know. They do it so people will see their product as more attractive than the alternatives. Points included.

Anyway, why are you defending JBN's decision to buy two games based solely on the amount of points it'll give him? Come on, you have to agree with me here. There's no logical alternative.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
it's madden 06. John Riggins won't be in it [Frown]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
so I've 'fallen victim' to one of the elements that make it an attractive product? [Confused]

[ 13.08.2007, 09:11: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
so I've 'fallen for' one of the elements that make it an attractive product? [Confused]

No, you've bought a game simply for the fact it'll give you more points. The only 'value' of these points is the kudos you think it'll get you from other XboxLive players. Come on, you admit that you bought these games just because of the easily available points. You wouldn't have bought them otherwise, right?
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Oh come off it. Everything about a game, its very existance, is designed to make it sellable. They don't do these things for the love of it, you know. They do it so people will see their product as more attractive than the alternatives. Points included.

It's correct, yes, in the most basic terms every commercial product from baked beans through to luxury sports cars is the product of a marketing strategy (or 'ploy') in one way or another, as even thinking 'hey maybe someone would want to by my jam at the market stall' is a marketing strategy of sorts. If this is indeed what you were trying to convey, then it's a comment of such complete and total redundancy, I can't even imagine what posessed you to bring it up. After all, if - as you imply - everything about any commercial product is the result of a marketing strategy then what's even the point of saying "Looks like you've fallen victim to a marketing ploy", when all of us do, every time we spend any money on anything, for any reason whatsoever. Your explanation makes your comment laughably superfluous and by consequence twice as stupid as I first thought it was, which was already very stupid indeed.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
The only 'value' of these points is the kudos you think it'll get you from other XboxLive players. Come on, you admit that you bought these games just because of the easily available points. You wouldn't have bought them otherwise, right?

I think I started this by saying that I only bought them for the points. I've said it twice. But I bought them second hand, and I'll sell them on again afterwards. And I'm sure they'll be entertaining enough; they're not bad games at all. I like the idea of getting a load of points for relatively short play time, rather than something like PGR3 that I must have spent days on in career mode, only to get something like 20 points.

I also said earlier that I've promised to beat YouSaySuck at points.

[ 13.08.2007, 09:20: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
No, you've bought a game simply for the fact it'll give you more points. The only 'value' of these points is the kudos you think it'll get you from other XboxLive players. Come on, you admit that you bought these games just because of the easily available points. You wouldn't have bought them otherwise, right?

Again though, isn't this a comment based on something so obvious that there's almost no point in mentioning it? That if you take away the reason someone bought something... then they probably wouldn't buy it. Like saying "Oh you only bought that t-shirt because you like the colour. I bet if it was a colour you didn't like, you wouldn't buy it."
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
it's madden 06. John Riggins won't be in it [Frown]

lol. Riggins or no, I can't picture you playing a sport game. It's unsettling.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
why is it unsettling, ralph?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Ok, let me explain: Tilde asked what the point was in gamer points, whether they meant anything other than a numeric value next to your ID in Xbox Live.

I was explaining, perhaps in a slightly offhand manner which clearly did not meet with your approval, that the points themselves are meaningless. There is no reward beyond the points themselves, they don't particularly enhance the gameplaying experience, not even in the way that, for instance, unlockable outfits might do. They do nothing, they mean nothing, but they are like kid crack. They're something that lamers find addictive, they're braggable in certain circles. And as JBN has demonstrated, a player who has an addiction to gamer points will actually buy a game they wouldn't have bought otherwise, and play through it even if they don't particularly enjoy it, just so they can get points. Therefore, the company releasing the game has made money off the back of the attraction of a lucrative points haul for the player.

Do you see then, how this becomes a useful marketing tool? How it can be used to make more money for companies releasing games which, actually, might not be all that good and might not have a huge target audience otherwise.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
so, now I'm a lamer?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
why is it unsettling, ralph?

you're not a sport kind of guy. I've always seen you as an anti-sport kind of guy. that's all.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Gotta catch them all, eh Big Nuts?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Well you bought the games second hand so not a total lamer. But it's a slippery slope.

Surely it's not hard to appreciate where I'm coming from here though. It's the point, where people are buying things not because they're good, in fact they may know for a fact that they won't get much enjoyment from it, but they're buying these things just to look good. It makes rubbish games seem more popular than they really should be. Madden itself might not be completely arse (although it's based on a queer yankee version of rugby, so one might reasonably assume it's pretty poor) but there are plenty of games out there which aren't very good, but may sell in greater numbers than they deserve simply by virtue of the fact that they give the gamer lots of points.

It hurts the industry, Thorn. Why are you supporting it?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Madden itself might not be completely arse (although it's based on a queer yankee version of rugby, so one might reasonably assume it's pretty poor)

ouch
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Hold on I've had an idea.>!!

Do you think we should make a realllllly shit game called something like "Duckle Cluckle - Easy Achievement points 07", with shit graphics and sound straight out of the ZX spectrum days, that only takes 1 hour to play through to the end. Give it a RRP of £5.99 and 1000 ultra easy achievements like

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It could be a massive money spinner ££££$$$$!!!!
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Where are you getting this shit from? The games I've bought aren't terrible games by any means. What games are you even talking about here? What research have you done to back up these facts about the impact of achievement points on the gaming economy? I'm suprised about how annoyed you're getting about points. There's something else at work here. I think it's tied into the 'lamer' reference you made earlier.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Yeah, sometimes things like this make me irrationally angry. I just don't like it when people base their purchase decisions on some silly pointless (lol) feature, rather than, y'know, overall goodness.

When I saw the advertising material for the new MX-5 listing one of the features as being "Four individual cup holders" I actually nearly shat in rage.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
It hurts the industry, Thorn. Why are you supporting it?

I don't think anything that encourages the sale of more games can be hurtful to the industry - one of the remarkable things about the XBox 360's sales figures is that console owners buy more games than they had done for consoles in the past. That makes the 360 a more appealing platform for developers, which is a good thing for me as a 360 owner.

I don't really see a movement towards shit games that rely on easy points for sales. All the 'easy points' games are multi-platform, so it's not like the developers are using them to prop up shitty games. In fact, the ones with the easy points are more likely to be the ones where the points system was implemented without any imagination - they get treated like an afterthought.

I don't think I've seen any examples of points being used as a marketing ploy, either. If people start issuing adverts for Madden '08 saying things like "Get 100 points for turning the console on!" then, yeah, I'll start thinking that maybe it'ss been integrated into the marketing strategy. But that hasn't happened. And to my knowledge no-one's built a game around easy achievement points: the games Benway mentioned crop up on Wii and PS3.

I don't think there's any evidence at all of developers propping up titles with achievement points. I mean, you say Benway fell victim to a transparent marketing ploy - this coming from someone who was wetting himself about the release of Spider-Man 3 on the PS3, which not only is a product of one of the most common and transparent marketing ploys in gaming, but also a total piece of ruinous shit. And if you played it on the PS3... you didn't even get gamer points for it.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Hmm, I think you’re kind of exaggerating there a little bit. I saw some stuff on Spider-man 3 and it looked pretty good, and I didn’t have anything else to buy for the PS3 at the time. Then I looked into it a little and realised how bad the game actually was, and didn’t buy it. I’ve not played it, and I’ve got no intention of buying it. Surely one of the most important parts of becoming a marketing ploy sucker, is spending your money in the first place. Not saying “hey that looks good!” then later thinking “Actually that looks pony, I’ll not bother”

Your accusations of suckerism are even ropier than mine.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
if only you could get internet achievement points eh.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
You do! Look, it's down there under your post. Where it says 'posts:'

That's your Internet Warrior Level
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
i wasn't talking to you.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
You don't deserve to talk to me, lamer.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
So Benway...when you play Madden 06, what kind of strategy do you employ? Are you fairly conservative on the offensive side of the ball, choosing to pound the line with your running game and short passes to your backs, or do you prefer the wide-open passing game?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I haven't got it yet, but I'll probably drive up the wide flank with my quarter forwards, going deep into the third play-half and employing the fling break when it's my advantage on the fifth.

[ 13.08.2007, 10:01: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
that's how the steelers won SUPERBOWL XXXXLLLICVIC
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
brought to you by Bud Light and the new Dodge Ram Lightning.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
American Foot Balls is probably really good though, if you get into it.

:-:
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
brought to you by Bud Light and the new Dodge Ram Lightning.

Dodge Ram or Ford F150 Lightning, surely?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
American Foot Balls is probably really good though, if you get into it.

:-:

It is. It really is.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
American Foot Balls is probably really good though, if you get into it.

:-:

It's probably more the case that American Bum Tickling League is really good, if you've never seen a proper sport in your whole life, and you think that WWE Wrestling is 'cool'
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
brought to you by Bud Light and the new Dodge Ram Lightning.

Dodge Ram or Ford F150 Lightning, surely?
yeah, and I don't think I can "drive up the wide flank with my quarter forwards" either. Man, I sure made some mistakes there!

[ 13.08.2007, 10:12: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
you're really being quite anti-american today, Ringo. [Frown]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Dodge Ram or Ford F150 Lightning, surely?

Hahahohoholololol - Ringo knows about American cars!
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
They're not cars, Misc, they're trucks. Shit ones at that.

They use ladder frame chassis lol!
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
My tactic on Madden on the Wii was to get a really shit hot quarterback who can thrown and run well, and then I generally to go for 3 Shotgun formation Hail Mary's in a row and if that doesn't work do a fake punt and rush through the one or two people they leave back in case of a fake to make the ten yards.

I'm not sure it would work so well in real life, but it works ok in the game.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Interesting strategy SG5. Who have you been using as a qb? I doubt very much that it would work in the real game of course.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I'm bored. Someone start a Nascar thread.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
"turn left"
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
Interesting strategy SG5. Who have you been using as a qb? I doubt very much that it would work in the real game of course.

I've been using "Seb Newman" as a quarterback. He's very good as I put most of the points that I was able to allocate to the entire team into him.
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
Completed Halo over the weekend. It's been a thoroughly enjoyable voyage, but it's left me feeling a little sad as Halo was the only Xbox title that worked, following its chip malfunction. Natch. Life just isn't the same anymore. Stupid chip. I'd best get the fucker repaired post-haste.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Or you could buy a 360. Get gamer points, you see.
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
Pfft. Points, schmointz. The whole 'earning points' scenario doesn't really do anything for me. If I get my Xbox fixed, I'll be able to start making headway on the 90-odd games that came with it, including Halo 2, the thought of which is making me salivate heavily. I suppose online Tetris will suffice for the time being.

ETA: I see that the release date for Halo 3 is 25th September. That'll give me plenty of time to bring myself right back up to speed with the Halo series. Lovely job.

[ 13.08.2007, 11:42: Message edited by: Zygote ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Here's a man who cares about Gamer Points:

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Leave Physic out of this.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
really nice downloadable bioshock 'artbook' here.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I flicked through a copy of PC Zone this morning. Their reviews are usually pretty accurate, and they rarely give out anything above 90%. Bioshock got 96%.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I got the limited edition pack for the 360 (with free toy, just to anger ringo), but I'll probably end up sampling the PC version as well, just to blow the cobwebs out of the 8800.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I have to admit I too fell for the cynical marketing ploy of creating a breathtakingly goodlooking game and marrying it to a challenging, intelligent plot that promises to be among the greatets gaming experiences of all time [Frown] I can just imagine all those marketing suits sitting round the table going "Hey, you know what would make our game sell well? If it was really good!" "Lol, yeah, watch those suckers lap it up." So yeah. I've got the bog-standard X-Box version on order. There's no way my PC will run this on anything other than 'laughable' setting, and I've committed to buying a marriage instead of a new PC. So. 360 it is.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
obviously, being a lamer, I'm just in it for the points.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Microsoft's gaming points are ruining gaming. That's why original, boundary-pushing games like Bioshock are appearing on the X-Box and not PlayStation 3... because of.. hang on... no... this doesn't make sen- but that would mean... Ringo was talking sh- no... I'm confused.

[ 14.08.2007, 06:36: Message edited by: Nathan Bleak ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
obviously, being a lamer, I'm just in it for the points.

Yeah, heh, you got me there. Y'know, like the last time you said you bought games for no reason other than the points. Because that's something you actually said, in all seriousness.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
[Confused]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Serious question though, if you can stop fellating each other for a minute. Is Bioshock really original and boundary pushing? I mean, it looks like an awesome game, don't get me wrong, but surely it's just a first person shooter with lots of atmosphere?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
[Confused]

Well you seem to be taking the piss, as if by saying that you bought games just for the points, I was making an inaccurate statement. But actually it is you that originally said you bought games just for the points you got from them. You actually definitely said it, and no matter how many times I read it back, it doesn't look like you were actually joking.

So, y'know, whether you agree with me or not on the lameness or lack thereof, or basing your purchase entirely on the points it gives you and no other reason at all, this isn't actually an unfair or incorrect statement to make. Which is what you seem to be suggesting.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
[Confused]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I just bought Fight Night: Round 3, Madden NFL 06 and NBA 06, purely for the supposedly easy achivement points.

See? look you said it right there ^^^

And that's the crux of what I'm saying. That the above is a demonstrator of lameness.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
[Cool]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Is Bioshock really original and boundary pushing?

Apparently, yes.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Come on, this is so yesterday. Instead, why don't we discuss the fact that some of you cretins are planning to play Bioshock with a fucking gamepad?

[ 14.08.2007, 06:50: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Is Bioshock really original and boundary pushing?

Apparently, yes.
Right.

How, though? Because it has nice graphics?

You're being a prick today for some reason, but I'm genuinely asking your opinion. Because lots of times a game is described as being 'boundary pushing' or whatnot, when actually it's simply a very polished, or fully fleshed out version of a concept which has been visited coutless times already.

As I say, I'm not trying to say Bioshock isn't going to be a great game, I'm sure it's going to be awesome, but being awesome doesn't really qualify as boundary pushing.

There are very few games throughout gaming history which I'd describe as actually original and innovative for their time. Probably we've reached a point where more or less every concept has been explored in one way or another and it's very hard to come up with anything truly original now, which is why the phrase is applied to games which actually aren't that original at all.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
much like how films generally have been unoriginal and boring since the golden age of cinema.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
ok whatever
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
lamer
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
look, if you and thorn have some kind of issue with me, drop me an email and we'll sort it out, ok? I'm sick of this bullshit

[ 14.08.2007, 07:04: Message edited by: Ringo ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
[Confused]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Is this kinda like playing on xbox live?
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Instead, why don't we discuss the fact that some of you cretins are planning to play Bioshock with a fucking gamepad?

*weeps* It's either that, or not at all.

Truthfully - and to my suprise - I've not found the 360's pad problematic in the slightest, and in some ways I've come to prefer it over keyboard and mouse, which is something I never thought I'd say. Having commands mapped to buttons that are just a thumbpress away is more intuitive than having to look down and pick out the correct letter on a keyboard, which is always something that drove me nuts on the PC, and firing a gun by pulling a trigger and feeling the gamepad vibrate is also more immersive than pressing a button on the mouse.

Obviously the main (only?) advantage keyboard + mouse has over a gamepad is the free aim the mouse gives you, although I don't think I've found myself struggling with that on GeOW or Rainbow6 - there's never been a moment where I've been frustrated with the speed the cursor's moving at. The 360's analogue sticks are responsive anough that it's not a noticeable issue. It's also worth noticing that while mouse gives you free-aim, it's a trade off against the 'on or off' movement choices you get with a keyboard. Analogue controller sticks let you sneak around properly, creep, walk or sprint in a much more intuitive way without having to pick a run/don't run setting from the menu (or in the case of something like Splinter Cell, pick a setting using the mouse wheel, completely removing the skill element of the stealth mechanic).

So yeah, you lose free aim with a controller, but you gain a more sensitive movement mechanic. Everything else is flat out better on a gamepad.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Probably we've reached a point where more or less every concept has been explored in one way or another and it's very hard to come up with anything truly original now, which is why the phrase is applied to games which actually aren't that original at all.

I don't think this is true, but I think the market is reluctant to explore new and original concepts (either because the massive expense of development makes it too risky to plough £30 million into something unusual, or because of MS Gamerpoints).

I haven't played Bioshock, so I by expanding on my comment I could well be making myself a hostage to fortune, but what I've been led to believe is that it's boundary pushing insofar as it uses the medium of gaming to explore complex moral issues, economic philosophy and social engineering in much the same way as a work of literature might. So it's pushing at the boundaries of what games are able to achieve in an artistic sense.

As far as originality goes, I think the setting is entirely original in the world of games, and the aesthetic seems to avoid a lot of the usual gaming cliches - that underwater art deco look is a long way from the office blocks or industrial corridors that makes up the majority of FPSs. In fact the whole of the art-direction is genuinely original - I think you'd be hard pressed to find obvious precedents in the world of gaming for the way the characters look.

Gameplay, I can't really comment on, for obvious reasons, although the word is that it focusses not on picking up weapons and ammo, but in creatively using your environment alongside the special powers (70 or so, in the game?) that you can pick up. So you might detonate a bomb, containg the explosion in a forcefield and fling the whole thing at your enemies. Again, I can't really think of another game that encourages you to play in this way.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I think this is probably along the lines of what I mean though. When I look at a game like Bioshock, I see an exploration of what is possible within the confines of the genre of the game, but the genre itself (i.e. the FPS, even if that tag is slightly inaccurate) is something which is well established.

To be honest, when I talk about originality, I’m thinking in terms of games which go in a completely unexplored direction. Little Big Planet looks like it could be a pretty original and innovative title.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not suggesting that Bioshock looks derivative or unimaginative, just that there’s not really anything about it which excites me in terms of something I’ve never seen before. It’s more that things like the setting, the artistic look of the game, etc, are all supporting aspects to the gameplay mechanic. To compare to something I’m likely to buy: Gran Turismo 5 will likely have motorbikes as well as cars. This is something which hasn’t been done before in a racing simulator, because the physics make it difficult. Because it’s the first to introduce this element to the genre, you could call this creative and original, but as far as I’m concerned it’s still a racing simulator, and just a logical expansion of the genre. An evolution, rather than an innovation.

I don’t know how consistent my views are though. Because while Bioshock looks to me like a very polished FPS, Portal seems innovative and original (ignoring the original game upon which the portal mechanic was based) so I’m sure there are plenty of holes in what I just said.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
It's hard to comment on the gameplay without having played it though. The way developers have talked about it, it could play like a more sophisticated version of Portal, where instead of just solving situations with a portal gun, you have to use a combination of dynamic environmental features, imagination, and powers. Things like setting an enemy on fire, so they run and douse themselves in a pool, and then electrifying the water to kill them off. Or it could play like just another FPS with a 'bee gun' instead of a machine gun. The reviews so far seem to err towards the former, though.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I think really it depends on just how 'free' you are in terms of using the environment. If it's just a pre-determined puzzle, where you have to defeat a bad guy in a certain way, or if there are a really unrestricted set of physics and abilities at work, which you can combine in as imaginative a way as you like. Either that or it's just an extension of the old 'bad guys standing by explosive barrel. shoot barrel to kill bad guy' etc etc. Like you say, hard to give a real judgement without having played through a reasonable chunk of it.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Garry's Mod FTW!
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
if you read UK:Resistance, then watch this. [Frown]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I suppose that what most normal people would look like if somebody just stuck a camera in their face and said "be a presenter"
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
She = girlway
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
oh man.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
lol, Ringos posts in S&R yesterday all make sense now.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
that's really not how I see myself in my "having sex with my female self" fantasies.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
She's maybe a little bit too cute actually.

Bear in mind I don't have sound, so her personality may be way off.

Also, I thought my S&R posts were making sense at the time. Maybejust because I had a fairly clear image in my head. In fact I was kind of describing someone I fancy.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
she's AUSTRALIAN for crying out loud.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Probably takes it up the arse, then. They all do, in Australia. Just like the Scots.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Oh, those Scots.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
 -

Also played the Bioshock demo last night. Seems pretty good. Looks incredible.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
The reviews for BioShock are going completely nuts. I'm getting quite excited now. I'm not going to play the demo, I don't think. Just dive straight into the main game when it comes out.

quote:
The hours spent playing this masterpiece were the perfect encapsulation of why videogaming is such a favourite waste of time for so many of us. Thrilling, terrifying, moving, confusing, amusing, compelling, and very very dark. BioShock isn't simply the sign of gaming realising its true cinematic potential, but one where a game straddles so many entertainment art forms so expertly that it's the best demonstration yet how flexible this medium can be.

 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
The reviews for BioShock are going completely nuts.

PC Zone's review said that if you play it through thoroughly and uncover the full depth of the plot, you're left feeling like you've read a really good book. That's unusual for games, as for the most part seem happy to approximate the cinematic experience, like you say.

I'm excited about the game too. So much so that I might even... buy it!

[Eek!]

[ 16.08.2007, 04:29: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Nathan - Have you played System Shock 2 - the game's 'spiritual predecessor' ?
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
No, it came out before started gaming. Years back I was considering buying it, when I got my first PC but I never got around to it - I think it was out of print by then, or at least very difficult to track down.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Same here. But it seems there's a fair bit of interest at the moment, thanks to the imminent release of Bioshock. There's a torrent about with over 100 seeders right now, if you're interested (in breaking the law).
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Eh. Got a big enough pile of unfinished games as it is. The industry is selfishly releasing games faster than I can finish them at the moment.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
You're in for a rough couple of months
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I know. I don't think there's ever been such a huge glut of high profile titles being lined up for such a short space of time. Mass Effect is the only one I'm going to buy immediately, though. The others I'm gonna wait until they're 2 for £40 or whatever. But there's enough gaming hours coming this autumn to last me for about two years, I think.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
American Football is the most ridiculous game ever. I have no idea how it works.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
If you've no idea how it works, how can you possibly say it's the most ridiculous game ever?

Think about it.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Basically two teams of cockless gaylords line up and lean in towards each other like they're going to kiss. The ball gets thrown to one of them, then whoever catches it gets chased around by the other team who have to pin him down and kiss him. Once they've kissed him, they line up and start again. If he evades the kissing of the other team, and gets to the 'end zone' (lol) he gets a 'touch-down' upon which he can do a little dance. If he drops the ball and it's picked up by a member of the other team, they swap over and the other team tries to kiss them instead.

Basically, it's like kiss chase crossed with rugby, but with more girly dancing, and lots of padding so nobody gets hurt.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
lol
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
lol. Nobody gets hurt.

quote:

While football involves brute force, speed, athletic skill and strategy are also required. Some talented athletes have seen their lives tragically transformed, as a result of injuries suffered on the field. One of these men is Mike Utley, an All-American from Washington State University who was drafted by the Detroit Lions in 1989.

Utley became the starting right guard for the Lions his rookie year. In the fifth game of that year, he suffered an injury that put him on the injured reserved list for the rest of the year. In his second year he fractured two ribs in the third preseason game, sidelining him for a number of games. Later that same season he dislocated his shoulder. This type of wear and tear is not unusual for an offensive lineman.

On November 17, 1991, however, in a game against the Los Angeles Rams, Mike Utley suffered a far more serious injury. His 6th and 7th vertebrae were fractured, leaving him partially paralyzed and wheelchair-bound, ending his football career. With intense rehabilitation and personal determination he has been able to regain some movement in his legs.

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You better hope Mike Utley doesn't find tmo dude.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Pffft, what's he going to do? His kissing days are over. I'll let his tyres down.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
it's just people lining up and picking formations and then everybody falls over and you do it again.

Fight Night 3 is quite good though. It's satisfying to make your man punch another man in the face over and over again. I like it best when you've knocked them down twice already but they get up again, and then you can really lay into them because they're all tired and broken. Also the chicks holding the cards between each round are quite attractive in a slutty way. And 'Atmosphere' is on the soundtrack. 200 points already, and I only got it yesterday.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
With intense rehabilitation and personal determination he has been able to regain some movement in his legs.
He'd kick the crap out of you. And heaven forbid he get his hands on you...
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
it's just people lining up and picking formations and then everybody falls over and you do it again.

That's like saying soccer is a bunch of guys running around kicking a ball, getting penalized for even the slightest physical contact with other players.

Wait a minute. That's exactly what soccer is.

[ 16.08.2007, 10:20: Message edited by: ralph ]
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
I haven't a clue how American Football works either, but I do know that former England Rugby captain/World Cup winning national hero Martin Johnson is a massive fan and was even torn between taking up Rugby or American Football when he was a teenager. So it must be good.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
What's that got to do with anything, Ralph? I'm not saying that I hate America, just that American Football (which is what we call it over here) seems needlessly confusing and action free.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I think you'll find that only faggy Americans and some silly Europeans play soccer. Everyone else plays Football
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Me and some friends ran into Mike Utley the other day. We were in the car park of the convenience store, knocking back a few beers when he came rolling out the door with a can of WD40 in his lap. He started to roll away from us and then one of my mates shouted "Hey Utley! You suck!" and chucked a can at him, catching Utley on the back of his head and then bouncing off, leaving a dribble of lager running down the collar of his shirt. Utley wheeled round and there was this tense silence, punctuated by the squeaking of his chair, and he faced us and was all like, "You kids, you fucking maggots! At least I made something of my life! You make me sick!", and then as one we all just ran over nto his chair and he tried to turn it and get away, but the wheel got stuck on a pebble and he was all like "No, wait, stop! Stop what are you doing?" We crowded round the chair and started rocking it back and forth as Mike switched between calling us maggots and scum and pleading with us to leave him alone. Eventually we managed to tip him over, and he fell right out of his chair and smacked his head on the tarmac, so he was bleeding a bit out of his left eyebrow. We went back to sitting on the step and drinking, spent the afternoon watching him crawl around the carpark with blood in his eyes crying and being sick. A few more people came to shop at the store, but just kind of stepped over him, or sneered at him like he was drunk. One guy left, then came back with a bubblegum card, which he got Mike to sign, but he didn't help him back into his chair.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
lol, Utley sucks.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
See?

Can you imagine trying to pull that shit with Zizou Zidane? Forget about it!
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
What's that got to do with anything, Ralph? I'm not saying that I hate America, just that American Football (which is what we call it over here) seems needlessly confusing and action free.

It's not the least bit confusing and chock-full of action. Once again, I think you're confusing American football with soccer, which is only slightly more interesting than watching paint dry.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
See?

Can you imagine trying to pull that shit with Zizou Zidane? Forget about it!

lol. He's a tiny man, ringo. Even I could probably kick his frog ass.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I know he looks tiny on your TV screen, Ralph, but he's bigger in real life.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
That was pretty weak, Thorn.

The guy's 6'1", 175lbs. He's smaller than *I* am.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
That was pretty weak, Thorn.


How else can you claim a man over six foot is tiny? What's your frame of reference? It's not like American is land of the fucking giants is it? The average height for an American man is 5'10. So if Zidane is 'tiny' America must be fucking land of the pathetic piddling little midget men.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Zidane is also the exact same height as the average american football player... so again I don't see how he can qualify as 'tiny' in any way that makes the word remotely meaningful. I think Ralph has said something incredibly stupid here, and needs to come clean about it.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
what should I buy from the supermarket?

so far I have:

Bunch of Fairtrade Bananas
Strawberries
Apples Braeburn Organic
Alpro Soya Dairy Free Alternative to Milk
Carr's Table Water Biscuits
Fresh Organic Brown Pitta Bread
Freshly Squeezed Orange Juice


what other things do people normally buy?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
that's copied from a website, BTW.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I hate shopping.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
I think Ralph has said something incredibly stupid here, and needs to come clean about it.

 -

Pwn3d!
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
Zidane is also the exact same height as the average american football player... so again I don't see how he can qualify as 'tiny' in any way that makes the word remotely meaningful. I think Ralph has said something incredibly stupid here, and needs to come clean about it.

Same height perhaps, but the guy has no meat on his bones! Why don't you post the weight of the average American footballer, hmmm?

stupid thorn.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
arse

[ 16.08.2007, 11:14: Message edited by: mart ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Lol. Only in America would 'athletes' be praised for being overweight.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
lol. Yes. All American footballers are fat. Well done, chubby. [Roll Eyes]

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[ 16.08.2007, 11:22: Message edited by: ralph ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Ralph bums gays

[ 16.08.2007, 11:32: Message edited by: Ringo ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Americans still think big muscles are cool. I was told this only recently by an American guy who I work with.

[ 16.08.2007, 11:20: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I was merely pointing out that not all footballers are fat. Do you think that guy could kick your ass ringo? Hmmm? He's faster than you. Stronger than you. Blacker than you.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
If being able to kick another person's ass is a measure of one's rightness then I don't really know why you ever bother arguing with me Ralph. If you take my meaning.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
It has nothing to do with a measure of rightness! We're debating whether or not American footballers are indeed the weak sissies that you portray them to be. They're not.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Then why do they have to wear so much protection for a game which is actually no rougher than Rugby?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
You obviously know very little about American football. I doubt there's four or five rugby players in the world who are big enough or fast enough to play in the nfl.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Then why do they have to wear so much protection for a game which is actually no rougher than Rugby?

I asked some American ponce the very same question once, he told me "If some guy wearing 200 pounds of armour tackles you, you need all the protection you can get." Fucking idiot.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
I asked some American ponce the very same question once, he told me "If some guy wearing 200 pounds of armour tackles you, you need all the protection you can get." Fucking idiot.

That's pretty much the same reason they have for driving Hummers and SUVs, etc.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
First of all, the padding they wear is nowhere near 200lbs. That's a ridiculous statement to make. Secondly, the speed at which this game is played, combined with the size of a lot of the players warrants they protect themselves. If the NFL played without any padding, there wouldn't be any players left to play each week.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
I asked some American ponce the very same question once, he told me "If some guy wearing 200 pounds of armour tackles you, you need all the protection you can get." Fucking idiot.

That's pretty much the same reason they have for driving Hummers and SUVs, etc.
Ditto for owning sub-machine guns for home protection

Raplh: just lol
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
They could do without the helmets, couldn't they? What are they protecting?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
They could do without the helmets, couldn't they? What are they protecting?

Their exquisite hick-mullets
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Raplh: just lol

Come on Rugby boy. Name me some players who could compete in the nfl. Back up your words for a change.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
That's a ridiculous statement to make.

Well, he was an American, what do you expect? Actually it might not have been 200 pounds, who knows? Who gives a fuck? It's hard to get any sense out of the average American, what with the combination of gross stupidity, the ludicrous accents and the ubiquitous mouthful of food.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
That's a ridiculous statement to make.

Well, he was an American, what do you expect? Actually it might not have been 200 pounds, who knows? Who gives a fuck? It's hard to get any sense out of the average American, what with the combination of gross stupidity, the ludicrous accents and the ubiquitous mouthful of food.
lol. I have a similar problem with speaking to people from England, as it's hard to understand a word they say, what with their tongues getting constantly tied up by what they call, for lack of a better word, teeth.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Jonah Lomu, before he got ill, could probably have singlehandedly steamrollered half the teams in the NFL, even if they were all on the pitch at the same time and if they were allowed to wear their armour, and he wasn't.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
for fucks sake. Is this what we've become?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Yes.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
for fucks sake. Is this what we've become?

This is what happens when you buy computer games just for the gamer points
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
He's a bit small by American football standards. Unless he can run like the wind, I'm not all that impressed by him.

[ 16.08.2007, 11:39: Message edited by: ralph ]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
for fucks sake. Is this what we've become?

This is what happens when you buy computer games just for the gamer points
lol. I love you, man.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
He's a bit small by American football standards.

Jonah Lomu is smaller than an American football?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Yes. The average overweight American footballer can't get his gigantic sausage-like fingers on anything smaller than Jonah Lomu. They have a tendency to urinate all over the place, as they're unable to grasp their own dicks. True story!

[ 16.08.2007, 11:42: Message edited by: ralph ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
He's a bit small by American football standards. Unless he can run like the wind, I'm not all that impressed by him.

Are you kidding? He used to eat three american footballists a day, just to keep his weight stable.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Are you kidding? He used to eat three american footballists a day, just to keep his weight stable.

No, I'm not kidding. At his size (265lbs) he'd be a small linebacker in the NFL, if he had some speed and good footwork. Possibly a tight end. He's too small to play offensive or defensive line, that's for sure.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
lol. I love how BlackMask suddenly starts speaking to me again when tmo becomes dog pile on the ralph.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Your posts constitute about 30% of the traffic on TMO, ralph. Beggars can't be choosers.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
What's 'dog pile'? is it like a bundle but with knee pads and ankle guards for everyone involved?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Your posts constitute about 30% of the traffic on TMO, ralph. Beggars can't be choosers.

I don't think it's that high.

quote:
Originally posted by Tilde:
What's 'dog pile'? is it like a bundle but with knee pads and ankle guards for everyone involved?

No knee pads, no ankle guards.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
What, he's about 35lb short of being a line man.

oh noes!
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
ah google tells me

DOG PILE  -
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tilde:
What's 'dog pile'? is it like a bundle but with knee pads and ankle guards for everyone involved?

If you actually saw a dogpile, Tilde, you wouldn't mock. They're about a trillion times bigger than the average bundle, they're faster, more aggressive... you just can't imagine. If it weren't for the knee pads and ankle guards there'd be carnage.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
 -
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
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[ 16.08.2007, 12:02: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
tmo sucks. [Frown]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Gosh, that last dogpile photo is turning me a little desky.

ETA: Wish her headband said Misc's though... [Frown]

[ 16.08.2007, 12:05: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I'm not using her at the moment, so if you want to borrow her for a couple of weeks, you can.

I'm not lending anymore out to Benway though - last one came back with a collapsed colon and a vagina that had her walking around bandy legged with what looked like one of those parasites from Res Evil 4 hanging out of her crotch.

[ 16.08.2007, 12:12: Message edited by: Nathan Bleak ]
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
gutlolstuff

gutlol
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Gosh, that last dogpile photo is turning me a little desky.

ETA: Wish her headband said Misc's though... [Frown]

I'm like 99% sure that she is a dude, dude.

Takeru "Tsunami" Kobayashi
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Yeah, gotcha there Thorn! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Kid can eat like nothing you've seen before. It's horrifying. Fat yanks with their stupid fingers don't stand a chance against the diminutive jap.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I hope you've all noticed my recent points increase.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
That is pretty amazing
quote:
Someone ask for a weekly recap? Even if you didn't, here it is: I told Finsbury78 that 5 days of playing would be idea... so last week there was some extra effort to get us there. Good job!I feel like i'm bragging when I say our score climbed 1065 points last week... insanity! I guess that is what completing 11 achievements can do!

I was feeling bored last week and convinced Finsbury78 to try a new game: EA SPORTS FN 3. It was a lot cooler than I thought it would be. Oh, and I want to mention that Finsbury78's favorite game last week was a serious FPS title... Rainbow Six® Vegas in fact... He played it on 3 of the days.

That's all for now... keep reading the blog! Send us a PM or a game invite if you are lonely.

I got to level 30 on forza2, no mention of the 30 achievement points I should have got for doing so. I wonder if it's because I've got alerts turned off on my 360?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
aye. Bagged another 540 last night playing nba 2k and viva pinata. nba has 5 achievements for all 1000 points, and you could technically get them all in one game. I still need to get a triple double and have a man do 20 rebounds. Got all but one of the achievements in Fight Night as well. It's just that frikkin Madden that proved to be not quite so easy, although there's 400 points in just simulating a season for 30 years. Literally, just pressing the start button once every 30 seconds for five minutes or so.


Well done on reaching level 30! It all starts to get a bit grinding after that. I haven't made it to 40.

[ 22.08.2007, 07:34: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
FYI TMO: Tonight I'll probably play Viva pinata exclusively. I'm going to breed me some monkeys.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
How do you turn friend alerts on or off on the xbox360? I managed to turn them off, but now I can't find how to turn them back on?
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
FYI: Hopefully my xbox has downloaded the Skate demo, it looks awesome in all the ways Tony Hawk's isn't. youtube link
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Can you expand upon that? I can't think of anything that is not awesome about Tony Hawks.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Yeah, I thought the main reason that there hadn't been another skateboarding franchise in gaming for about 10 years was because the Tony Hawks team had pretty much perfected it.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Well, basically Tony Hawks is super unrealistic whereas Skate aims to be more realistic, I guess it's like the difference between "fun" car racing games and simulators.

For me personally I loved Tony Hawk when it first came out, I played the demo on the original PS1 for hours, then the actual game came out which I completed, subsequent games got better but also seemed faster, more extreme and ultimately I lost interest in mashing increasingly complicated combo moves which bore little relation to the real life experience of skating.

Skate promises to be more 'real'. It's got a control system which sounds simple and yet revolutionary and people that I know who have played the demo say it works well. In real life pulling the tiniest trick on a skateboard for the first time and then perfecting it is every bit as satisfying as pulling a bigger more dangerous maneuver. The first time you land a kickflip and roll away is as sweet a moment as the first time you switch 360flip a set of 10 stairs... er.. I reckon, and that's what I think has been lost in the Tony Hawk Franchise.

I'll have to reserve proper judgement until I actually play it obviously.
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[ 23.08.2007, 06:26: Message edited by: Tilde ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
IMO the series peaked with THPS3, but only slightly since the subsequent games have all been great anyway. I guess the lack of realism is one thing, but I’ve never heard anyone complain it wasn’t realistic. I mean, I know it’s not, but it’s a brilliant series of games anyway, which simply uses an exaggerated version of skating to make it even more fun. The fact is, skateboarding is difficult. The genius of THPS is that it makes the basic mechanics of skateboarding easy, but sets extremely complicated goals which force you to achieve an almost zen-like one-ness with the controls in order to achieve. I remember, in the small hours of the morning, sat in my room lit only by the glow of the television, casting my red eyes down upon my thumbs, which were showing bloody purple and red bruises underneath the nail, where I’d been trying to complete all the ‘sick’ scores in THPS3.

Anyway, what I’m trying to say is that Tony Hawks’ lack of realism isn’t something which isn’t ‘awesome’ as you say, rather a facet of the game mechanic which allows the player to find the game enjoyable when they first start playing, and rewarding when they start to tap its depths. A properly realistic skateboarding game would mean that your first few levels would be spent almost constantly falling over, with your skater virtually unable to land a trick.

Still, who knows, maybe it’ll be great. I don’t think there’s any harm in another skateboarding title on the market.

It’s just a shame there’s not been a really good BMX equivalent, since BMX is a way more exciting sport. Dave Mirra was kind of ok, but never really seemed as consuming as THPS. But still, it’s a very very high bar that Tony Hawks has set.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
hmn, I suppose I've just become a bit yeh whatever at the whole backflip kick flip 360 flip indy grab manual up a building manual switch off the building land on a car thing with Tony Hawk and skate promises a fresh approach that hopefully will reflect the real experience whilst not being so realistic that you wind up not being able to do a kick flip down a kerb.

I can see no reason why the two franchises can't exist together though, much like Gran Turismo and Need for speed are both car games which fulfill different criteria.

Check out this little skate video on youtube to see what I mean about more realistic tricks looking satisfying.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uipvnGE29g0

[ 23.08.2007, 07:19: Message edited by: Tilde ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
just got phoenix wright 3. Already played through the intro case. I love phoenix wright [Smile]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Got to level 32 on forza last night. I can do a level a night, just about, although I'm spending all my money on upgrading cars so I can still compete with 3-4 spin offs per race. Got a F355 that's on U-999, and while the thing can go forwards better than most other cars, if I even look at the verge, I'm spinning.

Other news: Call of Duty 3 on the hardest mode has beaten me. I am more stuck than I ever have been on a game.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Playing the Skate Demo. It allows you 30minutes on one level then it times out and you have to start again. it's got a tutorial section at the start, have to say I'm finding it really good and I'm definately going to buy it. The first time you play you do instinctively do tony hawk type things with the buttons, and the control system is really simple and relies on timing more than anything.

... I'm not really writing this well at all but I'm not going to edit...

The second time I played through, I blazed through most of the tutorial stuff although grinds and manuals were still hard. I've played it 5 times now and it feels really natural and satisfying to control. They've spent time really perfecting all the little sounds and nuances, things like the way the wheels sound when they skid when you come off of a grind slightly at the wrong angle. Shit, I can't really explain, it just feels like it's been constructed with a genuine eye for detail and a genuine knowledge of skateboarding. RAD!
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yeah I played that. I enjoyed it, although it annoyed me how effortless it was doing, say, an ollie kickflip 180, when in real life I could barely get the board over a brick. Dude made it look so easy. My favourite bit was the noise it make going over the pavement. The way it clicked between slabs was sweet. Also good to hear Black Flag. I've never played a Tony Hawks game, so I didn't have any trouble getting to grips with the controls. Apart from I couldn't stop grabbing my board in the air, because I was going into SSX mode to do in air stunts, for which you always clamp down on the triggers.

I don't think I would buy it though, because I can't see it really thrilling me. Maybe I'd pay £20 for it in a year or so. I mostly enjoyed trying to engineer awesome wipeouts. If you could get points for setting up a classic handrail-grind disaster, where you end up really hurting your balls, I'd be in.

[ 29.08.2007, 06:25: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Is the PS3 version of the demo available yet do you know? I'd hate to go to all the trouble of plugging in my wireless access point just to find there's nothing worth downloading.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
you should get an xbox m8.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I've been mostly playing BioShock, to the point where it's started entering into my dreams. It's also kicked off a few big rows between me and Octavia, as she likes to look up from her book and give me instructions. So I'll be in the middle of a tense firefight between a Big Daddy and a few Splicers and she'll start saying "Use telekenisis! Use telekenisis on the grenades" and I'll be like "Yeah, I can't..." (dodges wrench, starts firing) "Use telekenisis on the grenades" "No, I'm... I've got...." (runs backwards into RPG turret, tries to select ElectroBolt plasmid as death beckons) "Use Telekenisis!" "I can't! I swapped Telekenesis out for the tornado trap!" (starts hacking turret) "What did you do that for? The tornado trap was shit!" "No... I don't know... I'm trying to" (desperately swaps bits of pipe around) "You're going to run out of time." "No... I'm... shit... no... got it." (hides behind now friendly turret) "Lucky." "Look, can you just..." (steps infront of turret just as it fires RPG, dies) "Ues telekenisis".

But it's all good fun. The game looks incredible; absolutely unbelievably beautifully realised, and the plasmids really do add an extra dimension to the gameplay (although some of them are pretty shit, like the tornado trap). There's some lovely emotional moments in the story and that atmosphere is incredible. Plus there's some nice touches in the way the Big Daddies and Little Sisters behave, the way they kind of ignore you unless you bother them; if you get too close to the little girl she'll point at you and cry and her daddy comes and shoves you violently in the chest, just like real life.

There's a few too many repeated vocal samples, which makes some of the enemies seem a bit character-less, although their mad rantings are totally different to what you normally get in videogames. There's always a fantastic, original moment just around the corner, and the design of the place is marvellous.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yes I ordered that game, but the fuckers appear to have just deleted my order, with no explanation. Thanks Gameplay.co.uk! Thanks for nothing.

[ 29.08.2007, 06:47: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I think they sell it elsewhere? I think it's available at pretty much every online and bricks and mortar entertainment outlet in the world? You might want to try one of them?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
not the version I ordered. But thanks for trying to help anyway. [Smile]

[ 29.08.2007, 06:56: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
h-hang on - y-you weren't trying to help. You were being sarcastic [Frown]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I was being sarcastic too [Frown]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
So are you not going to get BioShock now, because you won't get the free dolly that comes with it?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
no, no I will get it, but having been all pumped and then let down once, I'm kind of over the hype curve now. I was totally looking forward to it, but then time went on, everybody on the internet seems to have already got it / finished it, you know, everybody kind of goes "yeah it's brilliant...but not quite as good as I thought it would be", and I'm still hanging on for this dolly edition to come. Only today did the order disappear. I'm looking forward to playing it, but I've been released from the grip of the frankly enormous online marketing campaign that ushered it in. I've gone back to Viva Pinata and Forza, and as I mentioned above, I got Phoenix Wright 3 the other day, which definitely diverted my attention.

Hope that's all okay.

[ 29.08.2007, 07:38: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
still, I've read it's not too hard to finish Bioshock with 800 points, so it's totally worth it.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
keep coming, bleak. Keep em coming.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I want to download space giraffe at some point in the near future. It looks interesting and unusual.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Well, I downloaded Space Giraffe last night, and as I was warned it's a bewildering and disorienting experience. It takes a while to even figure out what's going on, and the game primarily seems to be about battering your senses from all sides and asking you to try and make sense of everything. There's some irritating elements to the presentation - awful internet tropes like Oh Noes! crop up every now again, and stupid quotes from sitcoms and sketch shows, but the actual gameplay is quite ingenious. Could also induce epilepsy, which could be interesting.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Loaded up Forza2 again after a little break with the whole skate demo thing. I'm up to Level 31, there's no way I can level up in one night, I just don't have enough motivation to keep droning around the track. However I did complete a set of races and now I have a couple of relatively decent U class cars - a 1967 ferrari which is pretty much maxed out and I won a maserati which I've raced a few times online in standard form and just span out all over the show, however once it's upgraded and had the fat forza spoiler stuck on it to bring the top speed down and the handling up, is a pretty good car. I've learnt that with these fast cars downforce is your friend, most tracks you don't get to see the top speed of your car anyway so acceleration and handling is more important (exception - nissan speedway).

Anyhow, I'd like to have a decent selection of U class cars, particularly some more decent ferraris, like maybe an Enzo. I may go to the auction house to get one, rather than racing through the game and unlocking it. U class is definately a great way to burn your bank account too, it's like 47,000 for a set of racing slicks, ouch...
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I used the Top Secret Supra on the Nissan Speedway, with the gear ratio set way towards speed rather than acceleration. Was topping 250mph. Crashing at that speed is ridiculous. I did try doing some of the endurance races, but after a couple of laps I found myself at the back and it's like, well, I could try and get round, but unless I've got at least a second lead after two laps, I'm not going to go through 30 laps only to say, drop a place on the last lap. I tend to do that a lot. I do my best driving in 2nd place. Get into a good groove, pass Mr. 1st and then put a few seconds between us during the middle of the race, but then towards the end, I start getting overly cautious, lose ground so that they're passing me on corners on the last lap, and then end up spinning off on like the last corner in an attempt to get back 1st.

I done made a syline with almost 1000bhp. Driving that round the maple course, I could only properly control it after crashing a couple of times and damaging the engine. Tilde what's your favourite track? Mine's probably either Maple or Atlanta. I don't like that King Cobra track. Or Silverstone. I still can't properly take either the first chicane or the last corner.


Last night I played Phoenix Wright. Turns out, you have to use the empty prescription bag to contradict the statement that the crime scene hadn't been tampered with.

[ 30.08.2007, 05:31: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
anyway tilde we should do some driving or something some time or something maybe or maybe not yeah alright.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
last night I also watched a repeat of an episode from "Game On".
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
I quite like maple valley, nice trees, had quite a few online races on that. I know Laguna Seca pretty well although I still don't know the best way to take the corkscrew and pretty much always end up blasting accros the dust. That one that looks like a runway is pretty fun, can't remember the name, might be midfield raceway?

The ones with really fucking tight corners tend to piss me off a bit. So yeh, the snake ones are a bit shit. Quite like the one with the big banked section that curves to the right before coming up to the finishing straight. Also for super-fast-no-blink-no-breathe-ultra nerve-wracking-driving you can't beat R1 cars on 'The Ring' (Nürburgring).

Game On has a place in many peoples heart's doesn't it? I watched a few episodes once upon a time, I think I really enjoyed it although I'm not sure whether actually it was shit... I liked the one where the agrophobic orders a pizza and the girl on the phone sounds really nice and comes round his house to deliver the pizza personally.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tilde:
I quite like maple valley, nice trees, had quite a few online races on that. I know Laguna Seca pretty well although I still don't know the best way to take the corkscrew and pretty much always end up blasting accros the dust.

As far as I remember, the best way is to position yourself towards the right of the track, brake hard just before the crest on the approach to the corkscrew, perhaps flick the steering to the right to initiate a bit of a pendulum motion, then turn sharply to the left, easing the accellerator down as you go into the final right, clipping both apexes in the process.

Ringo will be able to explain this with the proper terminology, I imagine.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yes the runway one with the huge corner at the end is fun. I'm pretty good at that one. Laguna Seca I was good at in the Gran Turismo games, but on Forza I tend to screw up the last big turn before the hill leading into the corkscrew. Either brake to early or just find myself unable to turn at all due to braking too late. But I did that track for hours and hours on the Gran Turismo endurance races. That was one of the courses that I'd be doing in my sleep. The corkscrew isn't too hard as long as you brake quite a bit before you hit the top of the hill.

I don't really like that Ferrari test track course either. A nice straight, but irritating corners. Winding.

I haven't tried any R1 cars yet. I've attempted an R3 race, but because all the cars are pretty much the same, it tends to end in disaster fairly early on.

what difficulty settings are you playing?
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Other cars on Medium
stability control off
damage on
racing line - braking only

everything else on, sometimes if I have a really good car compared to the rest of the field I turn a few other things off like traction control and if I'm racing with really slow cars I did start putting the gears to manual, which I was surprised to find relatively easy and a little more involving. If I'm really struggling to get anywhere in the first lap I'll turn the other cars down to easy - although I'll feel a bit bad about it, like I'm cheating. Also on some of the longer races with fast cars I've turned damage off as otherwise about halfway through the race my car is completely fucked which is frustrating.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
The Laguna Seca corkscrew is one of the best corners in motorsport. It’s right up there with Suzuka’s 130R and the Nordschleiffe’s Carousel.

The corkscrew is an exit oriented corner. That is to say that the most important aspect of the corner is how you exit it, as opposed to an entry oriented corner, where the line into the corner determines the speed. To demonstrate this, let’s compare it to the first corner on Laguna Seca, which is a circular, double apex corner. There’s a conventional line around this corner where you move in from the right, hold a tight line and clip both apexes. There’s nothing wrong with this but as an entry oriented corner, you can gain an advantage by giving priority to a certain line as you enter the corner. For the fastest attack, you miss the first apex and aim for a centreline on the track. You’ll gain a little under braking taking this line but obviously you will to slow a little more to get it back on line. Once you’ve turned in, you can then take a smoother line towards the second apex, letting you get on the power sooner, and gaining back any time you lost running deep. This then carries through to the next series of corners, by which point you will have gained a couple of tenths.

The corkscrew is the opposite. There’s no advantage to be gained by rushing into it under braking, trying to eek out every little bit of speed. You’ll inevitably end up running deep and getting out of shape going over the second apex. You should therefore try to take a slower line into the corner. You have to know exactly where the first apex is and aim for it before it actually comes fully into view. It requires a certain level of commitment. Brake hard just before the crest and don’t try to turn until the car is fully down to speed otherwise you’ll get understeer. Go into the corner slightly slower than you think you could do, and get turned into the first apex as early as possible. This will give you the smoothest line for the exit and should naturally take you along the line for the second apex into the right hander. This will allow you to get on the power earlier, giving the best possible run out of the turn.

If you get oversteer, just ease off the power and let it come back. You want to hustle the car over to the right after the exit as early as possible while still accelerating, and if you get oversteer then you will most likely end up putting a wheel on the dirt on the left. If this happens you’ll never get the car back on line for the fast left hander down the hill. You should look at the corkscrew in terms of setting yourself up for this corner. If you get the right line out of the corkscrew you will be able to get the perfect line into the following left hander, which can then be taken with a lot more speed, using the sudden increase in traction past the bridge to counter any understeer and slingshot you towards the penultimate corner, the high speed right hander before the final hairpin. If you get this right you will gain several tenths through the complex but it all relies on getting a good line out of the corkscrew, which in turn means not rushing in and trying to gain time on the entry. Focus entirely on getting a good line out and you will be rewarded with a new lap record.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
That is absolutely awesome.
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Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
It never ceases to amaze me how you guys find the time to play such a breadth of different games.

Can you see it getting harder to maintain as you get older? Or am I just feeling the fear as my new commitments eat my free time like a snack and attempting to project that onto more fancy free individuals?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
sounds like coming in slow from the left and straightening early, rather than using inertia to drag your car round the second apex from the right, as misc suggested.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I already find it difficult to find the time to play stuff. I can't really work out when it started happening, but at one point I seemed to have all the time I needed to play everything I liked, and now it seems nearly impossible to finish anything. There's never enough time.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jonesy999:
It never ceases to amaze me how you guys find the time to play such a breadth of different games.

Can you see it getting harder to maintain as you get older? Or am I just feeling the fear as my new commitments eat my free time like a snack and attempting to project that onto more fancy free individuals?

quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
sounds like coming in slow from the left and straightening early, rather than using inertia to drag your car round the second apex from the right, as misc suggested.

Really? I thought it was a combination of envying youth and the wining herald of a mid life crisis.

[ 30.08.2007, 06:51: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I've probably got more time than I ever had. I don't watch much TV, don't go on the web in the evening usually, so after work I'm either drinking, playing computer games, or watching films. It's pretty much equal between the three, but say Louise goes off for a day on the weekend, I'll just sit there and play solidly until she gets back.

Unlike you two clowns, I'm not spending my free time writing stories, so I've got plenty of hours free. I don't do anything family related ever, which also helps. I don't take holidays, so bank holidays are usually spare days to play computer games.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
sounds like coming in slow from the left and straightening early, rather than using inertia to drag your car round the second apex from the right, as misc suggested.

Misc's line is ok, it's kind of the line that you'd take if the corner were there by itself, but his line ends up with you moving out to the left as you exit the corner, which is going to take you away from the ideal line into the following left hander, which is a much faster corner and one of the best places on the track for slicing your lap time. The left hander is a late-apex corner, where you want to aim for a spot midway through the corner and just let the momentum take you from left to right through the curve, and then the road flattening out will grab you and help prevent running wide at the exit. If you are going in too early you'll end up running wide before the road levels off and then you'll need to get off the power which costs you a lot in this high speed section.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jonesy999:
It never ceases to amaze me how you guys find the time to play such a breadth of different games.

Can you see it getting harder to maintain as you get older? Or am I just feeling the fear as my new commitments eat my free time like a snack and attempting to project that onto more fancy free individuals?

I'm pretty much a single game man. I played Halo 2 online pretty much exclusively before I got the xbox360 then I experimented with crackdown and Gears of War a little tiny bit until the Halo 3 demo came out and I just played that exclusively until the demo ran out. Then I couldn't get back into halo 2, it just wasn't the same anymore so I got into forza2 and just played that everytime until the skate demo came out which I've been playing instead for the last week.

Children definately eat into your spare time, but after a little while they go to bed at 7:30 and you're stuck indoors unless you get a babysitter so you might as well fire up your console, if you go online multiplayer you might even hear other people talking about things like smoking blunts, noobs and rape. Alternatively you can watch big brother, feel tired, lie on the floor amidst the crumbs and rice crispies and sob.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
finished bioshock with 820 points. A good game. Some genuinely horrifying moments, and lots of nice twists in the story. I did find that you could pretty much kill everybody by just setting them on fire though, and enemies became more of a nuisance than enjoyable prey by the time I was getting near the end of the game. Needed more puzzle type stuff as well. All those elements and skills could have been used to make some devious little sections, but really it was just about running around searching bodies and setting people on fire.

Back to Forza now. It's getting hard. Approaching level 40, and I'm now at the stage where I can't just stick a turbo in a car and expect it to sail through the race unchallenged. I'm finding that more and more, I'm focusing on trying to take out my main competitors by forcing them off corners. Done right, it's one of the most satisfying things in the game to watch them crash into the barrier in your rear view mirror. My production line of desert camo vipers doesn't seem to be selling well though. One car sold for 1.5 million, the rest aren't moving.

Now I've got my Vista machine up and running with a ridiculous 4 gig of RAM, I'm also hitting the PC games again. Playing Command and Conquer 3, which is sweet, F.E.A.R., which is...alright, but kind of linear. Got Company of Heroes to start, and I'll probably get the DX10 spectacle that is World in Conflict. Go Wolverines! I'll also get Rez when that comes out on XBLA. Finished Phoenix Wright on the DS last week, and that was satisfying, if pretty ridiculous towards the end.

[ 19.09.2007, 05:30: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
finished bioshock with 820 points. A good game. Some genuinely horrifying moments, and lots of nice twists in the story. I did find that you could pretty much kill everybody by just setting them on fire though, and enemies became more of a nuisance than enjoyable prey by the time I was getting near the end of the game. Needed more puzzle type stuff as well. All those elements and skills could have been used to make some devious little sections, but really it was just about running around searching bodies and setting people on fire.

Yeah, I was suprised at the lack of puzzles. It seemed to be going in that direction - the opening stages set it up as though that was going to be a big part of the gameplay, with the moments at the beginning the required you to use telekenesis to catch grenades and blow stuff up, and the Incinerate to melt ice and so on, but it never really happened. I think they were hoping that the battles themselves would be the puzzle element. I did enjoy setting people on fire and then electrocuting the water when the tried to put themselves out, and there were some great opportunities to turn people against each other.

One thing that really struck me with BioShock was the extent to which it goes for emotional resonance in a way that I've rarely seen in games before. The big reveal about halfway through the game verged on being a shattering moment and kind of left me reeling, while the 'Good' ending seemed to be going after a kind of heartwarming emotional resonance I've never really seen in a shooter before. It felt like the end of About Schmidt; a big warm hug from behind.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Yeah, the reveal was good. For me, the horrible part was near the end, when in order to xxx you had to become xxx. That was sickening.
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
That didn't affect me. They seemed like a decent bunch and I was happy to be one of them.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
* Jack is back! (Thompson, that is). This time he's on a mission against GTA IV. No, wait. He's in a mission in GTA IV:

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quote:
The showcasing play of the game to Game Informer revealed that the first killing mission of the “hero” of the game, Niko, is to kill a certain lawyer. When Niko comes into this lawyer’s office, having used subterfuge to do so, Niko pulls a gun on the lawyer who says, “that the firm supports the second amendment and that ‘Guns don’t kill people. Video games do.’”

…The fact that the lawyer, killed on Niko’s first mission, would bring up video games, makes it clearly a reference to me… This is not the first time Rockstar Games and Take Two have targeted me in this fashion. Take Two references to me as a bisexual pedophile on its corporate website…

You have until five o’clock P.M. this Friday… to inform me that you are going to delete the above references and any other references that could reasonably be construed to be references to me in Grand Theft Auto IV and any other video games that are pending release…


 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I see that The Halo: Part Three is coming out in a week. Is anyone planning on playing this? I played the first one up to the point where you discover the Flood, but then it kind of started to get on my tits - the flood didn't seem as much fun to fight as the covenant.

Anyway. Looks like it's going to be the fastest selling game of all time, ever, and they're doing the whole midnight launch thing: woo-hoo etc.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Yeh, I'll be getting it, I probably won't even bother to do the whole storyline thing and just got straight to multiplayer. Although EA Skate is coming out the same week so I'll probably be mostly playing that.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I might have pre-ordered it ages ago, but if it doesn't come, I won't be too bothered. I suppose I'll play it eventually, but I've never really got that much into Halo. I once had an enjoyable day playing two player co-op on the first one, from start to finish, but my experiences with Halo 2 left me bored. And all the people on multi player are jerks.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
faggot.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I had enough of being victimised and bullied in Rainbow Six.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
One improvement they have made in Halo 3 multiplayer is that once you get killed you can't hear what the person who killed you is saying. May be a bit better, although half the time it's a member of your own team.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Downloaded LocoRoco Cocorecho last night and it's absolutely super brillaint.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
I just bought Colin McRae helicopter simulator but it keeps crashing.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Sorry, that was stolen from the b3ta newsletter.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Too soon man [Frown]
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Based on the great reviews I preordered Halo 3 last night, and am looking forward to playing it. If Tilde added me as a friend, and Jimmy Big Nutz gets the game, we could play through the campaign on 3 player co-op. But sadly that won't happen, as Tilde has gone on record as saying he hates me, and Big Nuts probably won't get the game anyway. A pity.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
no, I'll get it, and am up for co-op. I like co-op gaming, but sadly A)Tilde won't add me as a friend and B)Nathan Bleak is on xbox live only about once every two months.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
hmnn, halo3 comes out on the 26th and skate comes out on the 28th, I'm not sure I can justify buying both at the same time, that's £80...! I may buy skate first and play that for a while. Three player co-op sounds amazing though, I've just been playing a bit of halo2 multiplayer recently and I forgot how good it is when your coordination suddenly comes together, you grab the sniper, click zoom bang headshot, click zoom bang another headshot, doublekill, endorphin rush.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm currently playing the expansion pack for Oblivion. Very good.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
LocoRoco is rocking my world still. No pun intended.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
I'm sure you've all been keeping an eye on reviews for Super Mario Galaxy and seeing all the 9.0, 9.5 and 10.0 reviews coming in and thinking "Wow that sounds like a good game".

Well, these scores are nothing. It has now received a score of 11/10. Which is quite impressive really.
 
Posted by Fionnula the Cooler (Member # 453) on :
 
GALAXY IS AMAZE. AMAZE.

Are we allowed to discuss it? TMO needs a spoiler function. It's probably going to be really boring to discuss, actually, isn't it? Because it's just as beautiful as everyone says, and the controls are perfect, and the level design is ingenious, and the music is adorable, and blah blah boring blah.

Only point of concern so far (about 15 stars in) is that certain levels are already repeating. For instance, once you've completed one particular galaxy and acquired its star, you're required to complete it again within a time limit to acquire a second star, which seems to me like a pretty cheap way of boosting the amount of stars you need to collect in order to prolong the game. But really, the galaxies are so creatively designed it's a delight to play them again anyway.

Also, it took me an hour or so to feel completely comfortable with the whole running-round-spheres thing. Dizzying, to say the least. Feels perfectly natural now. Anyone else addicted to attempting whole-orbit jumps around planetoids?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I want my Wii back [Frown]
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Well, you can buy a new one now for about £360 through amazon marketplace...
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I don't want it that much..
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I've got a Wii but I don't think I'll be buying this Galaxy game.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Why not?

I've always been a fan of Mario and of Nintendo. Mario 64 is listed in the top 5 of my all time favourite computer games ever.

Though I sort of fell by the wayside after that. I didn't buy a gaycube for obvious reasons, so never played Mario Sunshine etc.

Anyway, Galaxy. I'm jealous.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Because I've never played a 3D Mario game that I enjoyed.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :