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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
..go about learning to play one of those guitar things? Is there some kind of instructional video you can purchase?
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
it's quite different to playing guitar hero, I hear.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Oh, really? Hmm, maybe I shouldn't then.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
There are hundreds. Absoulutely hundreds. I think the one I bought was about 6 quid from virgin and was just called 'Learn To Play The Guitar'. What's ideal is something that teaches you the chords, and as you learn the different chords, gives you simple songs that incorporate them. It's a lot easier to find the will to continue when you realise you it takes about half an hour to learn the riff to Should I Stay, Or Should I go? from a completely cold starting point. After that, it's mainly practice.

[ 15.01.2009, 08:01: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
this is the one I got, although I don't know if it's better or worse than any of the other dvd/book combos. I can't really play anything that doesn't revolve exclusively around power chords.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Yes. You need to learn chords, but you can't sit and learn chords just as chords. You need to tie them into songs.

The best ones will start you off with two or three chords and teach you a song for that. For example "Stand by me" only uses three chords.

Disarm by the smashing pumpkins and Zombie by the cranberries both just use Em, C and D. It's great. Learn those three chords and you've got two songs mastered already!
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
So, like, within a week or so it's realistic to think that you might be able to play at least sections of songs, rather than just sitting there struggling to master a chord or two? I mean, I'm al for learning new things, but because of computer games these days I lose interest in something if I haven't become at least fairly proficient at it within a few hours of first picking it up.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Within two hours you would be able to play an entire song. Probably less.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Well I might as well give it a go then. If nothing else, it'll kill a few hours, and I've got the next two weeks off work so plenty of time to mess about.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Have you got a guitar yet, or are you planning to buy one?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Just planning to buy one. I think a second hand one I could get for less than a hundred quid or so
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Acoustic or electric?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Electric. I have an acoustic I can use but that type of music doesn't really interest me. If I'm not playing music I like, I'm less likely to enjoy it
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I can thoroughly recommend one of these. You'll get it cheaper than that, though. Good for a starter. It's got loads of sounds and effects and with practically zero effort you can sound like Ted Nugent on his best ever night. As a regular amp it works well, too. Clean, simple, ace.

What sort of s/h guitar have you seen for under a hundred? It may be shit. Spend an afternoon checking out the shops on Denmark Street. You can probably get a new bog standard Strat or SG copy for about £80. Chat with some of the guys working there, many are pricks but some are alright. The ticket price isn't always what you pay. The guys in Macari's on Tottenham Court Road are pretty friendly. Wander around, scope out all the stuff your interested in, get some advice, try a few guitars, then zoom in on the cheapest deal.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
What sort of s/h guitar have you seen for under a hundred? It may be shit. Spend an afternoon checking out the shops on Denmark Street. You can probably get a new bog standard Strat or SG copy for about £80.

Surely all you want from a beginner's guitar is something that will hold its tuning. Likely to be true of a £100 s/h, less likely to be true of a brand new £80 one.

FWIW I took a rigourously scientific approach when I bought my guitar last year:

Brand: Yamaha, because I bought a Yamaha surround amp a while back and it was great. Admittedly the two products have nothing in common, were likely made by totally different divisions, and in any practical sense is probably made by a completely different company. But my goodwill towards the brand made this a 'no-brainer'.

Model: Pacifica because it was the right price. And it's a strat copy so I thought it would look nice next to the bass, which is also a strat. And it came in a metallic silver finish, which I (correctly) assumed would complement the metallic red of the bass. According to a less scientific approach this element could be considered a 'mistake', as the Pacifica is a superstrat, meaning the neck is thinner, making it more difficult for my clumsy bass-acclimatised fingers to play. However I'm sure you'll agree it's hard to argue with the facts re: style and price.

I'm sure that if you're equally as diligent in your application of research, you'll make a similarly informed choice.
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
I have a Yamaha Pacifica too! I bought it second-hand on eBay about 5 years ago, the only thing it doesn't have is the tremolo bar. I spent about 2 months playing along with some random CD and getting fingertip calluses, then rather typically typically lost interest. It's currently sitting against my bedroom wall gathering dust.

I bought a practice amp too and everything.

I am the epitome of all the gear and no idea!

[ 15.01.2009, 10:35: Message edited by: H1ppychick ]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
something that will hold its tuning. Likely to be true of a £100 s/h, less likely to be true of a brand new £80 one.

That's logic! Old heads will hold tuning better than new ones, eh? The fact is that for less than, what... £250-£300, any guitar is gonna have its limitations. New or old. I'd rather have a new cheap guitar than an old cheap guitar.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by H1ppychick:
I have a Yamaha Pacifica too! I bought it second-hand on eBay about 5 years ago, the only thing it doesn't have is the tremolo bar. I spent about 2 months playing along with some random CD and getting fingertip calluses, then rather typically typically lost interest. It's currently sitting against my bedroom wall gathering dust.

I bought a practice amp too and everything.

I am the epitome of all the gear and no idea!

Maybe you could sell all this gear? To someone?
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
That's logic!

I was basing this on a sample group of one (1), when I bought my guitar. The guy demoed an £80 guitar and couldn't get it to stay in tune.

I have to hand it to you - you're catching me out all the way these last couple of days. Now I think about it the whole approach I detailed wasn't rigorously scientific at all! What could I have been thinking when I said that it was.

[ 15.01.2009, 11:03: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Now there's an idea...

Actually, a friend said to me his Dad has one he'd sell for abotu a hundred, which is probably fairly decent but I don't know what it is. He's going to find out some details and let me know.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Although now I think about it, I'm not sure that machine heads (isn't that what they're called) become less effective over time anyway. My bass must be about 15 years old by now and stays in tune just as well as it ever did.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
And - you know - you never see concert violinists or cellists or whatever getting increasingly frustrated trying to tune their 300 year old insturment and then turning round to the stage hand and saying "Nip out and get me something from Tottenham Court Road for eighty quid. It's bound to be better than this second hand piece of crap."
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Anyway, the only valid criteria for a guitar is how awesome it looks.

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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
Anyway, the only valid criteria for a guitar is how awesome it looks.

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Ooh, that's one of the Dimebag ones, isn't it?

I haven't got a fucking scooby how guitars work. Everyone I know who plays has dead fancy guitars and they wouldn't sully a plectrum with anything less than a bona Gibson or Fender. Apparently, you have to tolerate cheap guitars being pretty shit until you're prepared to splash out on a decent one. We are currently a two shit guitar household. Plus one shit and two excellent ukes.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Just spend 100 quid on a guitar you want Ringo. If you manage to get up on stage and start performing then it makes a difference. Otherwise you're just wanking about at home. No-one buys a porsche to rev it in the garage.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
you're just wanking about at home. No-one buys a porsche to rev it in the garage.

Wise words. Wise, wise words...
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Look! You can get a Flying V copy for about a hundred quid! RAWWWWKKKKK!!!
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I'm not sold on the flying V. It makes me think of awful 80' hair metal bands. I prefer the more classic sort of Les Paul look.

To be honest, in terms of quality I wouldn't really know good from bad. For me, the biggest qualifier is simply whether or not it all works correctly. Presumably a shit guitar and a good guitar both function in the same way, so learning on one doesn't discount the possibility you'd be able to play to at least the same kind of standard on the other. But I don't know about such things, so I'm not sure I'm in a position to say. Yet.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Presumably a shit guitar and a good guitar both function in the same way, so learning on one doesn't discount the possibility you'd be able to play to at least the same kind of standard on the other.

Absolutely. Only a buffoon would splash out on something totally sweet before they've even learnt to play.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:


To be honest, in terms of quality I wouldn't really know good from bad.

Astonishingly, Thorn is actually correct. What you want is a guitar that stays in tune. When you're on the hunt ask about that. "Hey mister. Give me your cheapest guitar that won't go out of tune every time I look at it." Tuning a guitar every five minutes is fucking weak.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Tuning a guitar every five minutes is fucking weak.

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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
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lol Now they just need to go that extra step and design the guitar that plays itself, too.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
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lol Now they just need to go that extra step and design the guitar that plays itself, too.
Actually... I'd buy one of those.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
No, I wouldn't. That'd be stupid.
 
Posted by sabian (Member # 6) on :
 
A good start to learning a guitar would be to use the fucking search function!
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
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Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
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That's a rubbish guitar.
 
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
Anyway, the only valid criteria for a guitar is how awesome it looks.

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Or perhaps these would be better for ralph, with the whole beard tie-in and all.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
This is a very good example of quite how much you can do if you just learn four chords.
 
Posted by Suckmonster (Member # 8246) on :
 
This is Ralph's guitar.

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Posted by McDirts (Member # 6680) on :
 
hee hee, so true....
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
TMOers will be disappointed (though maybe not particularly surprised) to hear that I'm yet to actually buy a guitar. My friend whose dad has one for sale hasn't gotten in touch with me for weeks, so I'm inclined to go to the cheapy 'stuff' shop at the shopping centre where they're selling electric guitars with amps for £99.99

I don't know if they're pre-owned or whatever. They look ok though. Probably good enough for learning at any rate.
 
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
 
I hope you've been preparing by running wire up and down the tips of your fingers.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Someone's selling an Esp H-250 at a reasonable price. It's a bit fancier than I probably need, but it's a good price and it's a really really pretty guitar. Anyone got any opinions on those? Online reviews seem generally positive, except a few people grumbling about a bit of hum from the Duncan pickups. But I think that's something I could probably live with if the rest is suitably well made.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
If you want a guitar to start playing with, for a decent price, just go for the Squire. It's a Fender copy, so basically the most universally played guitar in the world. It's the most average, bang-for-buck bit of kit you'll get. 100 quid and you WILL NOT go wrong. If you want to get up and play live, then worry about what guitar you've got at that point. Until then, don't even consider wasting money on anything else, because half the battle will be playing the fucking thing.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Cheers dude
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Something like this?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
If it was good enough for Hank Marvin, I reckon it'll be good enough for you, Ringo.

[Wink]
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Something like this is good as a starter guitar.

It's a bit better than the one you linked to as rather than having three single coil pick ups, it has two of those and one humbucker so you'll get a bit more variety of sound which is useful.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Hank would never touch a humbucker.
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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
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£28.38 (inc vat)

Check the reviews from some of the world's best renowned musicians:

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Seems ok but im a beginner.
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Not a bad little guitar this.
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Consider buying.
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On the white scratch panel bit they left the clear sticky protective coating on it after they had fitted the nobs and bobs which made this hella hard to get off fully!
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Guitar came this morning. Looks amazing couldnt of asked for much more to be honest.
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Im puzzled as to how the provided strap is affixed onto the body.


[ 09.02.2009, 05:25: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:

£28.38 (inc vat)

I can't believe one of those reviews asked "does this come with an amp?". As if a £30 electric guitar wasn't astonishing enough.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:

£28.38 (inc vat)

I can't believe one of those reviews asked "does this come with an amp?". As if a £30 electric guitar wasn't astonishing enough.
That's the recession for you.

I'm thinking about buying a dozen of these (£356.28 including delivery) and building them into some sort of ridiculous project like the Avonator. Need to avoid it looking/sounding too much like the Boredoms' Sevena though:

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Anyone know where you can get a cheap pneumatic drill?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
That seems like an impossible price for a guitar. How are thye not making a loss on that? Maybe they're made of plastic or something. Even Guitar Hero controllers are more expensive.

The one that CiH pointed out looks nice though. They do Telecaster style ones too but I'm not so keen on that style.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Well, an electric guitar is a pretty basic piece of gear (which is part of its beauty, of course). Block of wood, some really basic electrics, stick a neck on it, string up and away you go.

Know what you mean, though. I'm tempted to buy one just for the hell of it.

I also remember reading somewhere that, really, there's very little difference between a decently made electric guitar and a fantastically expensive one, as there's only so much of the process that can be refined.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Conversely, a mate of mine in Spain is a traditional Spanish classical acoustic guitar maker. He's been apprenticing under his dad now for more than ten years.

His dad's guitars are renowned the world over by flamenco guitarists, and musicians come from all over the world to their poky little workshop (it's about the size of a large front room) and spend thousands on a custom-made guitar.

They have wood that's still "settling" after lying for 20 years in their special drying room.

Anyway, my mate has been at it for more than 10 years, and his guitars still only sell for a few hundred, whereas his dad's go for thousands.

And neither of them can actually play.

Edit: seems like he's got a bit more of a reputation than I give him credit for. Thinking about it, he'll actually have been doing it for about 20 years now, so he's probably really quite good.

[ 09.02.2009, 07:20: Message edited by: mart ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Yeah I think the body of the guitar really is just there to give it balance and something to hold onto. It's not a functional part of the acoustics, because there's no air movement with an electric guitar.

So I think that Yamaha is going to be the one for me. Does anyone have any thought on amps?
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Something at 10-15 watts is good. It will go louder than you can stand to hear in a regular room, meaning it's quite easy to get a satisfying sound out of it and it still won't be that big.

I'd suggest getting something with a couple of effects built in. Overdrive is kind of essential for that classic nasty distortion, but you'll have a lot of fun playing around with reverb, delay and stuff like that, too. I think I went with the 2007 equivalent of this.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I liked the look of this which I think is a smaller version of that one
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I've got an *MG30DFX that I'd be prepared to sell for a reasonable fee...
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
That looks a bit over-specced for a practice amp, and I don't really have a lot of space to store it, but what kind of a fee would you call reasonable? And would you deliver?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Well £60 is half what I paid for it, and it's barely been used, tbh. I couldn't deliver it at the moment though. Might just stick it up on eBay.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Also got a Marshall 1960a (4x 12") speaker cab that I've only used a couple of times, but that's probably a bit big for your purposes. It does make you feel like a proper rock star though.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Bear in mind that for the most part I'll probably be using a pair of headphones anyway, so nothing big is really worth having. Not until I reach a point where I would be happy for my neighbours/family hear me anyway. Which could well be never, who knows.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Bear in mind that for the most part I'll probably be using a pair of headphones anyway...

[Mad] NO! [Mad]

This is the WRONG way to learn electric guitar!
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Oh [Frown]

How should I be doing it?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:


How should I be doing it?

Like this...
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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Or, this...
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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Or, even this...
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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Mask gets it.

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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Coolness
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
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RAWK!
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
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Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I can't imagine that's particularly comfy to play
 
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
I'm not sure comfort is meant to be the first consideration in choosing a guitar?

There are other more comfortable instruments...

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Less likely to get you laid, though. Not sure if that's a factor in your decision making.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Jesus...

Playing guitar isn't about comfort, Ringo. Are you planning to get one of those gel wrist rests and glue it above the pickups? Might as well use CheezStrings instead of guitar strings in case the nasty metal hurts your fingers...

ETA: Accordions are not comfy, froop. I'm only half way through learning Birdhouse in your Soul and I'm already suffering from back problems...

[ 09.02.2009, 12:04: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I have so much to learn
 
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
ETA: Accordions are not comfy, froop. I'm only half way through learning Birdhouse in your Soul and I'm already suffering from back problems...

I knew I should have gone with the keytar. Or the kazoo. Or something else.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Look at this virgin. This guy does not know how to hold a guitar and should be made to stop holding guitars in a comfortable position.

Here are some correct positions:

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Right the deed is done. I ordered the Yamaha Pacifica, and the small Marshall amp I linked to earlier

ETA: is the guitar likely to come with the right leads and stuff? And should I get an electronic tuning aid or is that just gay?

[ 10.02.2009, 04:05: Message edited by: Ringo ]
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Electronic Tuning device is alright, but it is better to learn to do it by ear. There are loads of online tuning tools that will just play the note for each string so I'd recommend tuning it like that.

Whether it comes with the wires or not really depends on the package. It would seem really shoddy of them to sell a guitar and amp but not throw in a wire, but you never know.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Well it's not sold as a 'package' as such. So there's no strap or anything I think. I was just going to go to a local music shop for stuff like that, it's just a case of working out what bits I'll need.

I was probably going to buy from a music shop:

strap
stand and/or bag
plectrums
any leads etc I might need

Presumably there are plenty of freeware apps you can put on your PC which will play you the right sounds for tuning your guitar.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
http://www.howtotuneaguitar.org/

By default it is set to play you EADGBE but if you want to do any sort of funky tuning then it will play you those instead.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Good stuff, that seems spot on.

I figure I might as well buy a lead etc just in case. They're fairly inexpensive, so can't hurt to have more than one.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Presumably there are plenty of freeware apps you can put on your PC which will play you the right sounds for tuning your guitar.

There are also some that will act as an eletronic tuner if you plug your guitar into the mic socket, although they're not all that accurate. I bought an electronic tuner 15 years back, and enjoyed the reassurance that I was properly in tune, but as CiH points out, learning to do it by ear will make learning the instrument easier.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Oh I also ordered that book that you recommended, Thorn. So if I fail to learn properly, it'll pretty much be all your fault.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Get hold of AP Guitar Tuner - it's a freeware app that will show you exactly how far out of tune you are if you plug your guitar into your PC's Line-In socket and pluck its strings.

You might also want to trial a program called *GuitarRig which models hundreds of different amps, cabs, and effects. Seeing as they're modelled on the real thing (albeit with PES style renames), you can get a pretty good idea of which effects you like, and then go out and buy the real thing if you desire. For instance they have a near perfect version of my RAT distortion pedal, called the CAT.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
That sounds pretty sweet, though I think for the moment I'll just concentrate on the basics before I think about anything like that.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Oh I also ordered that book that you recommended, Thorn. So if I fail to learn properly, it'll pretty much be all your fault.

Oh dear. If you'd ever heard me play guitar you never would have taken my advice.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I'm really excited for you Ringo. I loved learning guitar. Having been sent to music lessons for Piano and Saxophone and getting bored of that, it was great actually teaching myself out to play an instrument so that i could learn at my own pace and in exactly the way that I wanted to learn.

I haven't actually learnt anything outside of work for a while. I might start teaching myself something new.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I taught myself how to drift cars. That was epic fun. But I think when you're really enjoying yourself it doesn't feel like learning, so much as just doing something you find fun.

I never really felt like i was musically inclined, so never entertained the notion that I could potentially play an instrument. Because when you can't do something like play a guitar, watching someone actually do it is really awe inspiring and it seems impossible. But there are lots of things I can do which also require intricate hand and arm movements, and the co-ordinated work of both hands. Like typing. I take that for granted but when my parents watch me type they always say it's incredible. For me it's not hard, I never even sat down and tried to learn how to do it. So I figure if I can learn to type, drive, play guitar hero, pleasure a woman, etc etc, then there's no real reason I shouldn't be able to learn how to play a guitar.

Oddly there have been several people who I've told I'm buying aguitar to learn to play it, and they've reacted like I'm an idiot. Saying things like "just because you can play guitar hero, doesn't mean you can play a guitar!" which I think is an odd kind of attitude. None of these people can play guitar themselves though so I don't think their opinion is really worth listening to.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I've been playing Left 4 Dead so I'd hate to be surrounded by your cynical friends during the apocalypse. I'd have to headshot the other three and go it alone, in sweet silence.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Oh don't tell me you're one of these people who played through Resident Evil and now thinks they can get through the end of Humanity? [Roll Eyes]

*bam*

Headshot!
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Oh, right so you think that if ghosts were chasing you then you'd be all like WAKA WAKA WAKA and eat every single last pill. You're so pathetic.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Listen Hagar. Mad Gear are a pyschopathic gang looking to ruin you. Just let them murder your daughter ok? Oh for christ sake, where are you going with those brown trousers held up by a single strap? Where's your t-shirt? What's Guy doing here? HAVE YOU BEEN AT THE VIDEO GAMES AGAIN?

[ 10.02.2009, 07:51: Message edited by: New Way Of Decay ]
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Hagar was mayor in Final Fight, wasn't he? It'd be brilliant if Boris Johnson's daughter was kidnapped and that's how he responded.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Oh god, both the pilot and co-pilot are DEAD! The plane's going to crash!

Stand aside, let me handle this!

Wait a second, who exactly are you?

I'm the guy who's gonna land this bird

You're a pilot?

No. Better. I completed Pilotwings on EXPERT mode.

 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Jon Snow - "In world news today, Princess Michael of Kent has been kidnapped by a terrorist organisation. When asked whether MI5 had any information regarding the kidnappers, channel 4 news were informed that MI5 had not been informed, but instead they were sending two Italian plumbers to arrange her release instead"

[ 10.02.2009, 08:32: Message edited by: Cherry In Hove ]
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
lol
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
In other news, an angsty, androgynous, spikey-haired teenage boy defeated an evil miltinational corporation to save the world today, by walking from place to place and randomly beating up on wildlife with an malproportioned sword...

It's funny because computer games aren't like real life lol

[ 10.02.2009, 08:40: Message edited by: Ringo ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
My axe should arrive tomorrow.

*tumesce*
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
My axe should arrive tomorrow.

*tumesce*

Don't know if NWoD's asked you yet, but we had a chat about this the other night. We think you'd be perfect for Interloper. I'll FedEx a copy of the backing track to you this afternoon. First gig's in a fortnight, okay? Good to have you on board, m9!
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Yeah he asked me. I said yeah, so long as I don't have to dress up like a tool
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Yeah he asked me. I said yeah, so long as I don't have to dress up like a tool

Nah, the gimmicks are gone now.
We're much more professional these days.

I do fondly remember teh goode olde dayes though...
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[ 12.02.2009, 08:38: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
There's nothing better than getting hammered and nailing a hot chick
 
Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
 
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Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
 
How would you do a picture of a drum-roll?
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
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Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
 
Pffff, gifs are so web 1.0
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Not if used properly...

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Hey squeege - do you know how to play the maracas?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Not if used properly...

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W...why Ringo?
 
Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
 
No. Isn't that a spanish instument? We have marimbas here.

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Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
 
Apparently Puerto Rican, not Spanish.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
So hey this guitar lark is pretty good fun isn't it. And hasn't been quite so ruinous to the digits as I had been led to believe. I looked up power chords and stuff, and had a lot of fun strumming them on overdrive at the weekend.

What do I do about books of music. I want to learn how to play songs but when I was in the guitar shop at the weekend they didn't really have anything that spoke to me.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
You could try searching on Amazon for bands that you want to learn - you mentioned you liked Rage Against The Machine - should be able to buy books of theirs. Or you could plump for something like the Guitar White Pages which has about 160 songs in it for £25, making it very good value.

Alternatively you can just google '[song name] guitar tab' and you'll probably get what you want. Powertabs are especially great - they play the song for you, lighting up the notes/tablature as it goes, making it really easy to understand how the tune works.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Ah good call. I've ordered two books, one Oasis the other Rage Against the Machine. Apparently the latter explains Tom Morello's crazy effects as well. Should keep me going for a while.

I can play the opening bars to Smoke on the Water [Wink]
 


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