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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
How bizarre.

Actually, it's not snowing at all. I'm lying. We haven't had a flake this side of Christmas, just a stark unrelenting cold spell (-6 while I was walking to work yesterday apparently, with a balmy high of -1 at midday) but apparently we could be in for a light dusting of snow later in the day. At which point the University will no doubt be closed in a panic and everyone sent home.

So, what's it like for everyone else at the moment? Are you all cowering in your beds, thick duvets pulled tight around you as you try to beat back the icey hand of death, or are you just, like, getting on with it?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I've been *burning books to keep warm. They're so much cheaper than coal, especially if you buy secondhand hardbacks.

Someone should start writing Amazon reviews that describe the burning qualities of the paper rather than the literary content.

[ 05.01.2010, 04:22: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
We do actually have proper snow here in Cheshire. About 10cm. First time I've seen it like this in years and years. Cars are getting stuck on the road outside our house. I set off to walk with the boys to school and then decided to phone and check, just in case, and they said to stay at home. First time I can remember school being shut anywhere that we've lived, even in the mid-90s when we had a couple of bad winters.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
There's a certain irony that an article about pensioners burning books to fend off the cold was printed in a free newspaper.

quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
I set off to walk with the boys to school...

Does this qualify as a coatworthy winter?

[ 05.01.2010, 04:25: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
maybe a woolly pully.

It was pretty bad here last year. My car got stuck in the snow in my street (it's a convertible sports car. Snow was the last thing they were thinking of when it was designed) so I walked the six miles to work in almost blizzardlike snow. When I was crossing the field on the final stretch of my journey, the snow was up to my knees in places. Took me the better part of two hours to walk in. Then I was promptly told that the place was closed because nobody had shown up so I had to walk home again.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Last February was bad here, too. Impossible to cycle. At the moment it's just flippin' freezing, so business as usual. Of course, it's not as bad as American snow, which is made of anti-matter and therefore obliterates everything it touches as it sweeps the country back to the state of nothingness that existed before the big bang, and even then they still carry on as normal.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Super-cold, here. No snow, though. Cycled in to work. Nearly got knocked off my bike at Vauxhall. So, to the gummy twat driving the JMD Recycling van, "Yes, you ARE a wanker!"
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I think you're getting confused. America wasn't made in a Big Bang. God waved his magical hand and everything suddenly popped into existence 5000 years ago.

Here is a photo of my car on the day it got stuck

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Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
LOL. You call that stuck. ralph would have driven that at 100 mph all the way and taken advantage of the cars skidding off the road to get to work extra quickly.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
it's cold in london. today i am wearing a jumper.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
It's cold in Brighton but no snow. Apparently it will start tonight and continue for 5 days.

I'm wearing a full on suit as I was meant to have my final interview at 10.30 but I've just got an e-mail to tell me that the woman who was meant to be interviewing me is off sick so it will be rescheduled but obviously I don't know when so basically I'm going to have to keep wearing a suit to work until I find out.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I have now taken my tie off though as it seems a bit pointless to wear a tie to do monthly reports.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
It's snowing in Birmingham. Wow, fuck me, I've just looked again and it's really snowing in Birmingham. Like, loads.
 
Posted by Hades (Member # 57) on :
 
It's snowing in Sheffield. Luckily only had a 5 min drive from hotel to work. I did have to drive up a snow filled slope to the car park though which I'm a bit worried about going back down later. My Brakes were struggeling on the flat road as it was.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Unusually, there was a red sky this morning - something shepherds are said to take as a warning.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I hope that all the shepherds on TMO are OK.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Here is a picture of a snowman I made a few years ago with a friend. He is standing next to the snowman, and for reference, is pretty tall.

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Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
It's no wonder your finances are fucked, Hades, if you insist on living in a hotel...
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
You should tell him to get a haircut. The friend that is, not the snowman. The snowman has no hair.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Surely a 5 minute drive is only about a 20 minute walk? You could probably sell your car and pay off your nan in no time.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
He's had quite a few haircuts since then. But yeah, he does need to sort that out. He also needs to have a better supply of vegetables and bits of coal so we could have made a more traditional looking snowman face. I sculpted the face, incidentally.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
LOL. You call that stuck. ralph would have driven that at 100 mph all the way and taken advantage of the cars skidding off the road to get to work extra quickly.

Oh no. You don't take a rear-wheel drive MX5 out in the snow. Well, not in the kind of snow you get 'round these parts anyway.

We've not had much in the way of snow yet (maybe 36 inches all winter) but it's been cold (highs around -13, wind chills of -40). Then again, that's about normal for winter here.

[ 05.01.2010, 05:25: Message edited by: ralph ]
 
Posted by Hades (Member # 57) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
It's no wonder your finances are fucked, Hades, if you insist on living in a hotel...

I work away from home ocashinonally. My company pay for the hotel. I'm here for 3 nights then back home.

quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
Surely a 5 minute drive is only about a 20 minute walk? You could probably sell your car and pay off your nan in no time.

See above answer. [Smile]
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
You should get your company to pay you the money for your hotel and then keep the money and sleep in your car.

Hey ralph! Happy new year
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
An MX5 would be fine in that snow if it had a locking differential, like a hydro-locker or a spool diff, but with a Torsen you just get mad wheelspin on one wheel and the other doesn't turn, because it acts as an open diff when there's no traction. I tried easing on the handbrake to get the diff to lock but it did nothing unfortunately. Just stuck in wheel ruts and then refused to go any further.
 
Posted by Hades (Member # 57) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
You should get your company to pay you the money for your hotel and then keep the money and sleep in your car.

Well the bottle of water i left in there overnight had frozen ....so maybe in the summer.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hades:
quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
sleep in your car

maybe in the summer
Have you got any second hand bookshops nearby?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Thing is though, right, you get all these people being all like "oh this country's so gay, we can't even cope with a little bit of snow, Europe laughs at us, rah rah rah" which is pretty cretinous because it implies that we should plough (pun) millions, if not billions, into the infrastructure needed to cope with what amounts to a few days of snow a year. Generally speaking it's easier just to say to hell with it and shut up shop for a bit, and wait till it thaws slightly. Obviously there are plenty of examples of people taking this too far - like schools which will close the moment snow falls because apparently kids these days are so fat and unbalanced that they can't stand in a snowy playground without slipping over and hurting themselves on the numerous sharp edges that you would assume litter these places. This is obviously stupid.

But actually it seems to me that for the past 5 years or so we've seen a fairly big increase in the amount of time we're being affected by stuff like snow. So I wonder if actually it is time that people learnt about things like snow chains, or kept a spare set of winter tyres, and companies made more of an effort to encourage their staff to come in on snow days. Here we have home working contingencies so a fair number of people would be able to work from home if it came to it, but on the other hand when it snowed last year people were given free days off - they didn't even have to take it as holiday, even if they lived within a couple of miles of the place, and there was no requirement for people to demonstrate they had made an effort to actually get in.

Surely there comes a point where closing down businesses for a week or more each year ends up costing more money than putting in place the infrastructure that would allow businesses to stay open through these snowy times.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Probably, yeah.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Obviously there are plenty of examples of people taking this too far - like schools which will close the moment snow falls because apparently kids these days are so fat and unbalanced that they can't stand in a snowy playground without slipping over and hurting themselves on the numerous sharp edges that you would assume litter these places. This is obviously stupid.

I find this quite depressing, really. We quite happily set off to walk to school this morning. Cars were really struggling, but walking was no problem, with a bit of extra adventure thrown in. But the school is shut, so the kids are lazing around on the sofa. I'll get them outside later, but they should really be having mental snowball fights with their mates, and generally learning how to deal with snow, how to keep warm, how to move about in it. Shame.

I suppose it's not the teachers' fault if they can't get in to work from miles away, but there should be a scheme (think this has been mentioned here before) where teachers always report to their local school if they can't get to where they work, and hopefully that would roughly balance out and at least someone could supervise the kids and give them something to do, even if it wasn't a proper school day.

I dunno, no big deal I suppose, but it's not the kids who are fat and unable to walk, really. Not round these parts anyway.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
That's a really good idea.
 
Posted by Hades (Member # 57) on :
 
I don't recall having a single day off for snow while i was at school. I feel dupped.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
schools which will close the moment snow falls because apparently kids these days are so fat and unbalanced that they can't stand in a snowy playground without slipping over and hurting themselves on the numerous sharp edges that you would assume litter these places. This is obviously stupid.

I find this quite depressing, really.
I'm not sure where this actually happens... maybe it's just made-up Daily Mail stuff? The Masketeers have been to school in SW1 and SE15. I've got friends with kids or working in schools all over London and as far as I can tell kids DO go mental in the snow. Last year the boys' school WAS closed for a day but they and all their mates headed outside. The streets, Peckham Rye, Telegraph Hill, all full of kids playing, sledding, making snowmen, having snowball fights. Where are all these lazy, accident-prone, fat kids?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Well they do exist, these schools. A colleague has two kids and not only is their school shut the moment it so much as gets cloudy, they are so obsessed with health and safety that when they have their annual sports day, the sacks used for the sack races have the bottoms cut out becuase jumping in a sack is too dangerous.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Also, just to give it all some balance, when I was a kid (quite a long time ago) our school closed down one winter because the heating broke down, which coincided with them removing all the asbestos, if I remember it right (though I might be merging two incidents of closure into one), and it meant that we spent weeks (it felt like weeks, and was certainly a fairly long time) off school, coming in one day a week for lessons that lasted ten minutes, when homework was given out and handed in.

Everyone sat in class in parkas and scarves and hats and gloves and so on. Then fucked off home again.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I definitely remember having at least two days off from combined school due to snow forcing the school to close. But in those days it was proper snow, like. Hung around for weeks. Not like this mamby pamby snow which melts the same day it falls.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
What do parents do in this situation? Do they have to take the day off work to, like, babysit?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Yeah I think so
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
their school shut the moment it so much as gets cloudy

There used to be a running joke about the Isle of Man ferry, that the captain would step out onto the deck and light a candle, and if it blew out then the ferry wouldn't sail.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
A school and a child are two completely different things.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
What do parents do in this situation? Do they have to take the day off work to, like, babysit?

The parents can't get in to work, remember.

(I'm at home anyway at the moment because I'm, uh, resting between contracts. [Mad] )
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Yeah I think so

So... how do you avoid getting sacked from your job for not turning up?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I think you phone them up in the morning and say "hello - I'm sorry about this but I can't make it into work today because the school has shut and someone will need to look after little Mercedes today"
I guess you could ask if you could bring the kid into work with you.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
What do parents do in this situation? Do they have to take the day off work to, like, babysit?

They certainly, do. And they get to take the kids to the pub to warm up, as well.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
The office says yeah okay, that's fine (because everyone understands you can't leave your kid on its own), and then a few days later admin come and say can you sign this holidya form please for the day you took off work last week.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Or you throw a load of food and toys into a playpen with the child and head off to work and hope that it all works out ok.

That method is frowned upon though.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Man, raising kids is bullshit.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
You should have got a cat instead
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Swap ya?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
The office says yeah okay, that's fine (because everyone understands you can't leave your kid on its own), and then a few days later admin come and say can you sign this holidya form please for the day you took off work last week.

We don't have these sorts of barbaric practices in the public sector.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
You get your own back when you're about 90 though and your kids have to make the decision about whether to take you into their home and cook for you and feed you and bathe you and wipe your arse or put you into a nursing home and see their inheritance dwindle by about £400 a week.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
No, self-employeds don't either.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Or people who don't have children.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Funnily enough, I'm feeling really ill with a chest infection, and am doing a translation for a Spanish healthcare company about private health insurance for the self-employed.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
It's like the time I chainsmoked my way through a huge project about giving up smoking.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
Swap ya?

I don't really have room for a baby. Unlike a cat, I don't think it's ok for a baby to sleep on the living room floor
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
But different.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
LOL nice one.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Terrible timing problems here, sorry about that.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
It's the snow.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
Funnily enough, I'm feeling really ill with a chest infection...

And, of course, there's this gambit...

Your newly acquired illness that weirdly coincides with your kid's school being closed by snow, so you just phone in sick.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Mostly caused by mart not allowing the appropriate time for a response to his post.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
fuckit.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
This is what the quote button is for, I think.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
No, that's for quoting back bits of what people have written above.
 
Posted by Hades (Member # 57) on :
 
Since starting this job i haven't really minded sitting in shopping centres all day.... until now. I'm bloody freezing and thats WITH old man thermals, t-shirt, shirt , jacket and coat on.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
LOL nice one.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
It's actually a generic response anyway which could pretty much slot in anywhere on TMO.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Hmm a cloud has arrived
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Your job description appears to be very similar to the description of a pedophile Hades. They don't solely sit in shopping centres though. Parks sometimes.
 
Posted by Hades (Member # 57) on :
 
Are you crazy? i'd be even colder in the park.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Maybe you'd be warmer if you were wearing some trousers
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
I'm actually suffocatingly hot, as my office-mate has put both radiators on. I prefer a slight chill in the air when I'm working, to keep me awake. For some reason I always end up in offices where people want it to be like a sauna - the kind of temperature where if the office felt like this in June, you'd open all the windows. Urgh.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i've got a scratchy throat. Can you believe it? I lost my voice over christmas due to a bad throat, and it seems that it's going to go bad again. I'm at my wit's end.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Shouldn't you be doing a new episode of Controller Throw tonight? Is it just going to be an entirely Mikee based show?
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
If you like I can get up to Carshalton tonight to do it for you. I've not played any new games, watched any new movies or listened to any new music this week.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
it's already up. Went up last night.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Oh. I could have downloaded it this morning for some fun on the way to work. Instead I had to listen to Master of Puppets which is very good but I didn't find it very funny.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
I listened to it for about a minute and then turned it off.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
the first minute is the best bit, so you've done the right thing.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
link please
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
www.controllerthrow.com
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
anyway, yes. Sore throat. Anybody else ill over christmas? Great.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
I liked the blogpost about PC Fit. That was really good.
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
It's snowing steadily in Bristol and is forecast to snow increasingly heavily through the afternoon and evening/night.

I'm supposed to drive to Basingstoke tomorrow. Yeah, right.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
I wasn't ill over Christmas, but I am ill now. I just mentioned this on the previous page. It's there for you to go back and read.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
yep mart I saw that earlier, thanks for the update.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
No problem.
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
oh man it was snowing so much in scotland, it was awesome. i was in narnia! am back in london now and there is none [Frown]
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I've been feeling OK. Kate and Amelie had a bit of a cold and both whinged about it a bit but obviously I'm a man and made of harder stuff so if I did get it I didn't even notice.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
With fortitude like that, Cherry, you could almost qualify as an American.
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
I want to go home and hide under the duvet on the sofa [Frown]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
With fortitude like that, Cherry, you could almost qualify as an American.

almost
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Yes, that's what I said. Almost.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I just scrolled up and checked, and you did indeed say almost mart.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
so he did. sorry.
 
Posted by Hades (Member # 57) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vikram:
oh man it was snowing so much in scotland, it was awesome. i was in narnia! am back in london now and there is none [Frown]

I was up in Scotland for new years, the mountains and countryside looked fantastic with all the snow.

see?
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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
I liked the blogpost about PC Fit. That was really good.

I told him that. I was like, yeah that's funny, we should be like that ALL the time.
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
Bah. It's stopped snowing.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
The cloud appears to have dispersed without incident
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Phew! I was worried for a bit after your previous post. Glad that you're safe.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
The Met Office severe alert status for my area has been upgraded from yellow to orange though, and we're on the border of a red area. It reckons in a few hours all hell is going to break loose with up to 20cm falling in one sitting.
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
yeah Hades, Scotland was lovely!

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more
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Does anyone know how to solve a problem like Access?

I pressed "Data Entry" in the Records menu and it seems to have wiped my Form clean. Which is very very bad.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Oxford has an urgent weather warning in place with potentially up to 40cm of snow tonight. Good job we don't know anyone in Oxford
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Yeah! Fuck Oxford! Bunch of fucking self-aggrandising toffs!
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Wait a second...
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Fuck.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Shit, you're right! My friend Nicci lives in Middle Barton!
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
I don't see what this has to do with my Access problem, guys.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Maybe Ralph could give some advice on how to deal with a mere 15 inches of snowfall.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Hang on, I think I might have sorted it.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Maybe Ralph could give some advice on how to deal with a mere 15 inches of snowfall.

What do you mean...deal with? I don't see how 15 inches of snow could affect you...maybe it takes you longer to get where you're going...but it's certainly not life threatening...
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
Mart it might not have wiped the form clean, but just switched to a different view. I believe it goes into a spreadhsheet kind of view for data entry. Selecting 'design view' might show the form again. Just a guess. I hope it works out for you.
 
Posted by Samuelnorton (Member # 48) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hades:
I don't recall having a single day off for snow while i was at school. I feel dupped.

Me too - in the 1970s I can remember a few winters when there was more than just a smattering of snow. And I am talking about here in Britain rather than Germany when things would go tits up only on exceptionally bad days.

The health and safety thing may sound ever so slightly Daily Mailesque, but in a country where the server a pub tells you they don't do blue steak for such reasons I wouldn't be surprised if schools are closed because some halfwit thinks the fatties are going to roll over and die. Or be on the end of more snowball attacks because they are (a) a larger target and (b) a slow moving one.

FWIW, I live in a no-grit zone and there's no fucking way I am taking my RWD SLK out if the place is looking like a skid pan.

I will be "working from home".
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Thanks Benway.

I'd applied some sort of filter, or sorting criteria. I clicked Remove Filter/Sort for everything and it's back to normal now. And I learnt how to order my entries properly, by date and by number alike, so that it works just right now. That has been bugging me for a whole year.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Samuelnorton:
FWIW, I live in a no-grit zone and there's no fucking way I am taking my RWD SLK out if the place is looking like a skid pan.

Is this lifted from an Alan Partridge deleted scene? There's no way a real person would say this.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I'm wondering what a no-grit zone is. Like, I don't get salt anywhere on my estate, but I can probably make it out to the main roads if I really try hard. Not in the MX5 though; in the Lupo. I wouldn't bother in the MX5. But then I live about a mile away from work so there's not really much of a reason to bother with the cars.
 
Posted by Samuelnorton (Member # 48) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
Is this lifted from an Alan Partridge deleted scene? There's no way a real person would say this.

Yep. Alan lent me his secret book of unused lines and didn't ask for it back. What a fuckwit, eh?

Tis the truth though. RWD cars are a nightmare in this sort of weather, even if you have done the training weekend.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
My bicycle is RWD and it's very difficult to ride in heavy ice and snow. A RWD car must be twice as difficult, as it has twice as many RWs.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktFZXHS0MbM

Snorton does have a point to be honest - rear wheel drive cars and snow are not a particularly easy combination, especially if you have summer tyres fitted.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I wonder if "my RWD SLK" will become to TMO what "my Honda Accord" is to B3TA.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
It depends if you've been on the training weekend, really.
 
Posted by Samuelnorton (Member # 48) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
I'm wondering what a no-grit zone is. Like, I don't get salt anywhere on my estate, but I can probably make it out to the main roads if I really try hard. Not in the MX5 though; in the Lupo. I wouldn't bother in the MX5. But then I live about a mile away from work so there's not really much of a reason to bother with the cars.

If things get shitty I'll take a photo.

We live in a cul de sac, and to get to the driveway and parking bays you have to traverse a road that sees very little traffic, let alone any salt. One little skid and you'll be scraping metal with any one of the cars parked on both sides of the road.

For days after the rest of the snow and ice elsewhere had cleared the road still resembled an ice rink.

I'd use the Astra, but the ABS doesn't like the cold and the fuse for the offside front headlamps blew at the weekend. I'd like to say I could walk to work, but I live a good few miles away and public transport is bollocks - not that anything would be running anyway if we get even a centimetre of the white stuff.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Ah ok. Same sort of thing where i live then. I just assumed most places were like that to be honest. Does anyone get grit in local estates?
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Samuelnorton:
public transport is bollocks - not that anything would be running anyway if we get even a centimetre of the white stuff.

Bit rich to lay into the public transport when you've got two cars yourself - both of which are completely useless if there's so much as a slight cold snap.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Ah ok. Same sort of thing where i live then. I just assumed most places were like that to be honest. Does anyone get grit in local estates?

Only if they're on a bus route apparently.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Well there you go. live and learn
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I would have thought an SLK would have a sophisticated traction control system
 
Posted by Samuelnorton (Member # 48) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
I would have thought an SLK would have a sophisticated traction control system

It does - but even that and four hours of skid pan training might not be enough. Then there are the other people out there you need to worry about.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
You need to try a bit of this

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Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Samuelnorton:
It does - but even that and four hours of skid pan training might not be enough. Then there are the other people out there you need to worry about.

Was Mr. Magoo a Jew?

[ 05.01.2010, 11:24: Message edited by: vikram ]
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Just started snowing here. Not 40cm yet.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
I don't know who you're travelling with there Ringo, but she must weigh bloody loads. Look at how uneven the car suspension is.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
yeah I'm really coming down something I reckon.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I live in South-East London, it's ALL grit. Mate.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
I don't know who you're travelling with there Ringo, but she must weigh bloody loads. Look at how uneven the car suspension is.

that's a guy
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
I live in South-East London, it's ALL grit. Mate.

Oh, I thought you lived in Pimlico. Where in sunny South East do you live? nuX4eva
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
my mistake
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
yeah feeling well dicey now isn't it.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
is it?
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i'm going to do a fuck off, get back and have some chilli con carne. Sound.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vikram:
Where in sunny South East do you live?

I live in ever-popular Nunhead.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
alright mate mind how you go.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Top. Sorted. La.
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
ah it's pretty leafy. police helicopters and trees.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
And the parrots.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
quote:
Originally posted by Samuelnorton:
public transport is bollocks - not that anything would be running anyway if we get even a centimetre of the white stuff.

Bit rich to lay into the public transport when you've got two cars yourself - both of which are completely useless if there's so much as a slight cold snap.
You have to take a certain pleasure knowing someone spent a large sum of money on something they can't actually drive. If anyone spent a ridiculous amount of money on something that was a piece of hideous useless shit, I'd be gutted. Totally gutted and ashamed of myself. I'd be awake at night saying 'you stupid fucking idiot. You piece of dumb fucking shit' and punching my teddy really hard. Then feeling bad about punching teddy. Getting up in the middle of the night and looking out at my useless fucking car and then look over at my wife, weeping at what I've become.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
weeping at what I've become.

An RWD...

(p.s. we must do that thing. That drinking thing.)
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
(aye I tried but I was waiting on you to set a date. Incidentally I get paid tomorrow so you know)
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I think most sporty cars struggle in certain conditions. I think Snorton meant that it was just in snow that he wouldn't take his CLK out. Presumably in all other weather conditions it's a perfectly functional car. My MX5 has exactly the same issue of not being any use in snow.

It's kind of like, if you bought a totally sweet pair of trainers, and then some smug penis tried to say you were stupid for buying them because you couldn't use them to cross sheet ice. You'd probably think that it was he who was the idiot, not you.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Is my Ford Focus estate any good in snow? In comparison, like.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
(Yeah, got a bit overwhelmed by events. Plus, I'm trying to abstain for January. It'll never work though.)

(Are brackets for whispering..?)

(We should definitely do that thing, though. Soon.)
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
In fairly shallow snow, yeah probably. But if you were in really deep snow then your car would be just as useless. So really you're just as much of a twat as Snorton, for buying a car which can't perform brilliantly in absolutely every single road condition.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Don't listen to Ringo, he doesn't even know the difference between a school and a child.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Righto, cheers.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Chi-haw, so my penis replacement doesn't drive on snow.

(yes)
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
You said this earlier and I still don't have any idea what you're talking about
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I'm saying 'though' a lot lately.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
(Are brackets for whispering..?)

(Yes. But you weren't using brackets. So we all heard you.)
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
In fairly shallow snow, yeah probably. But if you were in really deep snow then your car would be just as useless. So really you're just as much of a twat as Snorton, for buying a car which can't perform brilliantly in absolutely every single road condition.

But Snorton's got two cars he can't drive in cold conditions, and he was complaining about how public transport packs it in when there's snow even though his private transport is no use either.

[ 05.01.2010, 11:45: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
Chi-haw, so my penis replacement doesn't drive on snow.

(yes)

Are you saying that the only reason someone would buy a sports car is as a penis replacement? I dont' really understand what you're getting at. Are we to assume that Snorton bought his CLK specifically for driving in snow and now has egg on his face because it doesn't work there?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
It's like I have a creeping, sub-conscious realisation that everything... absolutely EVERYTHING is conditional. On everything else.

(The guy sitting at the desk next to me just reached over and put one of his old pencils in MY pencil mug)
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
He actually described not being able to drive through snow as 'bullshit' I mean, if that's not a kick in the vehicular balls I don't know what is.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Also, no I only think snorton would buy a sports car as a penis replacement. He's like Walter Peck but with less spiritualism.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
It would be neurotic to insist he take his pencil out, wouldn't it? I don't even use pencils that often. I can't honestly remember the last time I used a pencil at work. Come to think of it I can't even be completely certain it's MY pencil mug...

FUCK!
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Just received a general purpose email from the big-wigs... WORKING DURING SEVERE WEATHER CONDITIONS!
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
In fairly shallow snow, yeah probably. But if you were in really deep snow then your car would be just as useless. So really you're just as much of a twat as Snorton, for buying a car which can't perform brilliantly in absolutely every single road condition.

But Snorton's got two cars he can't drive in cold conditions, and he was complaining about how public transport packs it in when there's snow even though his private transport is no use either.
But the only reason he can't use his Astra is because the headlights aren't working, because the fuse blew. And he's got a point about ABS - it's pretty useless in snow and ice.

Plus, as someone else pointed out - areas where busses etc run are gritted. And so a bus has less of an excuse for not running that someone's private car.

Don't get me wrong, I think Snorton is as much of a dickhead as the next guy, but I think you're barking up the wrong tree with this one.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Snorton's next penis replacement:

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[ 05.01.2010, 11:59: Message edited by: Ringo ]
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Don't tempt him man, he's got a void to fill.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
I dunno. It's a bit cock-ish to see it as completely reasonable that your own transport can't deal with uncommon weather conditions and yet whinge like a twat because the public transport you ignore the rest of the year isn't some magically enhanced super-vehicle equipped for all conditions and is, in fact, subject to the same environmental factors stopping you from going to work. How, for example, if you can't get into work, can you expect the bus drivers to get in? Why would they be any more able to turn up to drive the busses in the first place? Perhaps you think that that busses are driven by magic elves made of superheated salt who live in the bus station rather than by other, human people who, like, Snorton, may find it difficult to get into work. Perhaps the busses have the same anti-locking braking system that "doesn't like the cold". As I understand it, busses and bus drivers operate in the same physical universe as the rest of us, and will therefore be subject to the same problems.

[ 05.01.2010, 12:08: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
I think it's just human nature, isn't it?
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Well, so is killing anyone you perceive as a threat, or trying to mount and impregnate as many women as you can, whether they want it or not, and fearing and hating things that are different to you. "It's human nature" isn't some all-purpose excuse for behaving however you want.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Okay, I'm now pretty sure the pencil mug isn't mine. It's got 'I'm Excellent!' printed on it. While I do, actually, think I am excellent, that's not the sort of thing I'd have emblazoned on a mug. This, of course, begs the question 'Whose mug is it?' and furthermore 'Why the fuck is it on my desk?'

No one's putting their hand up to owning it and no-one in my office (apart from me) is excellent.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
I meant that we all often have unreasonable expectations of things that we shouldn't... umm... reasonably... expect to be as ace as we'd like them to be. Expecting buses to run when other road transport is struggling is one such... er... reasonable unreasonable expectation. I think, anyway.

I try not to think like that myself, but, y'know.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Well I've walked in this morning to find a message that the university is closed until ten and they'll make a decision then as to whether or not they'll open at all. So I'm just in limbo at the moment.

My friend in Middle Barton is reporting that there's over a foot of snow there, so I think it's safe to assume Thorn is probably dead in the snow, like at the end of The Shining.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
You'll be pleased to hear that I downloaded the latest episode of controller throw, transferred it to my phone but then couldn't find my headphones before leaving for work so I still haven't heard it. I'm just guessing what it might be like and chuckling occasionally.

It's chucking it down with snow here but I'm at work.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
I'm alive! I'm OK! Seriously, I'm OK. I'm in the office where the heating has broken down. Because of the snow, I got the bus in - which was running just fine, so I imagine Samnorton also went into the office today, and on his way thanked the public transport folk for being able to operate even after most people's cars were rendered useless.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I haven't had a text from Thorn to tell me he's dead and I'm assuming that if he was dying in the snow his first thought would be to text me to let me know so I reckon you're wrong Ringo.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
The buses here aren't running so I used the form of transport that involves putting one foot in front of the other over and over again. It seems to work in all weather conditions and is really cheap to run!
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Busses here aren't running, but several people have made it in using their cars. I'm not sure what to make of this!
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
That's what you get when you have a city run by poofters. First sign of snow and it's "ooo! It's way too cold out and all this wetness is going to play havoc with my Ralph Lauren shoes."
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
It's still snowing in West Berkshire, so I've decided to work from home today. Currently watching BBC News channel which is reporting that bus shelters have collapsed due to the weight of snow. Exciting times!

London - it's coming for you next!
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I really don't know what all the fuss is about.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
It's about snow. Keep up!
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I think Londoners often assume that conditions outside of London are basically identical to those in the centre of the city
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Surely London won't be affected at all as I'm led to believe they have a huge network of trains that run underground and recent studies show that even when snow is falling above the ground it isn't also snowing underground.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
London [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
it's snowing here
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i'm working from home, so i could carry on with forza 3. early verdict - it's a good one.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i'm drinking a coffee, eating a khobez. Postie just dropped Time Out and a letter from Barlays through the letter box. I'm wearing a Rebel Eight tshirt. Heating is on. More news as it comes in.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
finished the coffee. It was enjoyable. Looking at the internet now.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
just had a pang of vague sadness and disappointment, but not sure what triggered it.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I've been playing some DA:O recently. Got some lesbian action with Leilani or whatever she's called on Monday night.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Trying to work out why Australian reports are calculating the wrong results at the moment. It's a lot of calculations and I've only got half the story so I'm having to guess a lot. It's fun.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i originally threw a hotdog up morrigan's hallway, but then switched over to the religious bitch. she wouldn't let me put it in though, just kept saying 'i'm here for you' like yeah then why can't i put it in then you french sounding hooker, i mean, fucks sake.

[ 06.01.2010, 05:26: Message edited by: Kanye West ]
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Apparently Morrigan won't go lesbian so there's no point in me even trying with her. I guess I'll go for Alistair next. I'm not sure I'm looking forward to having to watch myself get fucked by a man.

I'm guessing you probably can't romance Sten or the dog but I'll give it a go.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i never got sten. left him in the cage and forgot about him.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
University is officially closed so I'm heading home. Maybe play some Forza if benway is up for it.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
brrm brrrm, maybe but what are you suggesting? some kind of head to head racing event that i will surely lose? sounds great.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I forged that comet forged two handed sword and was going to give that to Sten but his strength wasn't quite high enough so was waiting, but before that I turned my mage into an arcane warrior so she's now wielding that and wearing heavy armour and is a ridiculous powerhouse. A powerful mage with a massive sword and huge armour who is able to summon infernos is awesome.

I've got an assassin in my team as well now but I've never actually used him.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i nearly had some man on man with the assassin because of that french sounding bitch being so tight but in the end i controlled myself for the sake of the team. That comet was good. The first three times I saw that cut scene with the two people and the crater i was like wtf? [Confused] and just walked off. But it kept happening until i picked up the metal. i played as Greg, the mage-elf. He was tooling around in some heavy armour, but I gave him a staff.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
[Cool]

[ 06.01.2010, 05:38: Message edited by: Kanye West ]
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
Apparently Morrigan won't go lesbian so there's no point in me even trying with her. I guess I'll go for Alistair next. I'm not sure I'm looking forward to having to watch myself get fucked by a man.

I'm guessing you probably can't romance Sten or the dog but I'll give it a go.

I did Leliana and Zevran in quick succession. I married Alistair but didn't boink him, so no achievement. The marriage was a farce. Me, a lesbian elf-fancier in a sexless union to a man who lost his cherry to a witch. A total mess.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
A polar bear just walked past my window and I'm on the FOURTH FLOOR!
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Not really.

Everybody made it in today, but nobody's heart's really in it.

The snow's getting quite heavy and blowy outside in Victoria, though.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
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"evs"
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
thats greg the mage elf. did you know you could check out all your player shit on the bioware dragon age social networking site ?!?!?!
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
listening to ZZ Top.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
flipping out.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
everyone having a good time yeah
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Clean shirt, new shoes. I'm just not sure where I'm going to. Silk suit, black tie. I don't need a reason why.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
*high five*
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
no matter what anybody does, they'll never beat Billy Gibbons at anything.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
maybe breakdancing.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Angus Young might beat him at sales of hard rock records.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Margaret Atwood might beat him at penning a classic satirical novel set in a dystopian future society.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I got six new pairs of boxer shorts this week. It isn't quite up there with the seven pairs Tilde got but it's not bad. Not bad at all.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
We're on dress down at work all this week because of the snow. I don't quite understand that reasoning. Perhaps it's a way to try to persuade people to come to work.

go on, come into work, it'll be fun. You can wear jeans!
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Even someone like Dawn French would beat him, if the game was starring in a mediocre, yet breathtakingly successful sitcom written by a c*nt.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
It actually seems to have worked quite well. Hardly anyone failed to make it in. However it has started snowing really hard now so I suspect a lot of people won't be able to make it home.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Wasn't that voted in the top five of all sitcoms ever by people who watch channel 4 and can be bothered to vote in ridiculous polls about shit?
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
I got six new pairs of boxer shorts this week. It isn't quite up there with the seven pairs Tilde got but it's not bad. Not bad at all.

Hey guess what! I went to see Monster Magnet while I was off work and not only was the crowd completely static all the way through the gig, but Dave Wyndorf has really let himself go. Conversely when I saw Soulfly last feb, Max was on great form and the crowd was mental. You know what I'm talking about.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
can you divide the game up like that though? I mean those are small victories compared to the general thrashing he deals to everybody. If I beat him at knowing which ikea cardboard box on top of the wardrobe contains the correct cable for the camera, that's so massively overshadowed by his general uber-victory that it's rendered inconsequential.

[ 06.01.2010, 06:21: Message edited by: Kanye West ]
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
That's moving the goalposts after the horse has bolted, though, Benway.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Dave Wyndorf: A performer in decline...

How he used to be:

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How he is now:

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The fact that the gig took place in front of about 100 semi-interested rock-nerds in the 1000 capacity Leamington Spa Assembly Rooms only added to the sense of dismal failure.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
you're right mart. I feel a bit protective of him now.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
That's big of you. Did you know he's some kind of celebrity Hollywood chef?
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
can you divide the game up like that though? I mean those are small victories compared to the general thrashing he deals to everybody. If I beat him at knowing which ikea cardboard box on top of the wardrobe contains the correct cable for the camera, that's so massively overshadowed by his general uber-victory that it's rendered inconsequential.

But Angus Young's hard rock record sales victory is beating Billy at his own game. It's easily quantifiable, and playing to both their stengths, and Billy loses. At the only thing that counts. It's hard to think of any game that doesn't involve beards, where ZZ Top beat out the DC.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
That's big of you. Did you know he's some kind of celebrity Hollywood chef?

yeah i knew that. Who didn't, right? Just another thing that he beats people at.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
zz top is blues rock, not hard rock.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
 -
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
zz top is blues rock, not hard rock.

Rubbish. All rock is 'blues rock'. Come on now.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
ZZ Top is ranked number 44 on VH1's "100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock.

 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i feel like zz top are cooler than ac/dc as well. Don't know why. it's the whole hotrod / blues / beard thing. who would be better tour with do you think? zz top or ac dc? me, or thorn? it's a tough one. ZZ Top i think of summer evenings at backyard bbq-based outdoor festivals in texas, but ac dc, more likely to be the milton keynes bowl, or somewhere in germany, during a recession, and its pissing it down. don't know why.

[ 06.01.2010, 06:44: Message edited by: Kanye West ]
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
zz top is blues rock, not hard rock.

Rubbish. All rock is 'blues rock'. Come on now.
Rubbish, come on now.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i suppose ac dc win at having a broad, more mainstream appeal.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
What about touring with Margaret Atwood.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Rock'n'roll, and all that.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 


[ 06.01.2010, 06:41: Message edited by: Kanye West ]
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
i feel like zz top are cooler than ac/dc as well. Don't know why. it's the whole hotrod / blues / beard thing. who would be better tour with do you think? zz top or ac dc? me, or thorn? it's a tough one.

The beard thing annoys me a little bit. It seems like it's there so that a certain type of man, who maybe works for a PR company specialising in corporate and political accounts and listens to things like Dire Straits, can say "They've all got beards... except the drummer and he's called Frank Beard. You've gotta love it."
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
AC/DC only sells more records because Rock fans go in to HMV and go to the Rock section and start at "A" and go "Hmm, Aardvaark Scabies? Nope, not heard of them. Ahh, AC/DC, that rings a bell (at the beginning of one of their songs), that'll do. Mum, can you lend me three pounds? Nan only gave me a ten pound token."

Zed Zed Top sell to real connoisseurs who know that La Grange pisses all over anything AC/DC have churned out. Just for a start.

(Although AC/DC are OK sometimes.)
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
listening to La Grange right now.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
it's real.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
listening to La Grange right now.

Got a bit more Boogie on this here Spotify list, but it needs adding to if you've got anything?
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
did you listen to the hangover one. that mart and me did? I used it after a mephedrone accident and it worked brilliantly.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
i suppose ac dc win at having a broad, more mainstream appeal.

That's part of what's great about AC/DC though, is that they're just successful because they're awesome. It's not like - say - Bon Jovi where you have a band that built success out of a canny mix of fist-in-the-air anthems, and radio friendly power ballads and changed their look and style from Hair Metal to a sort of soulful ex-cowboy thing depending on fashion. DC have had the same sound and look forever. They've acheived massive commercial success without moving one single step away from what they were playing in Australian bars 30 years ago. They exist outside of fashion, and trends, and anixety over ' god is this band cooler than that'. That's awesome.
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
GREG. an elf called GREG. this is just another reason why i will never really understand computer games. did you call the elf greg, stephen?

i rang up my supervisor at 9.25 to say 'im sorry, i wont be coming in for my supervision this morning, can we reschedule?' obviously her response was 'snow issues?' and i was like, 'no, ive just woken up, and anyway i thought it was at 2'. but thats the great thing about snow; it renders everyone a bit halfarsed about stuff arent they, even people who arent congenitally slack and ineffcient. LOL. oh dear.

do you know who should die? people who call ac/dc 'acker- dacker'. those people should DIE.

[ 06.01.2010, 06:53: Message edited by: dance margarita ]
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
sounds like you're accepting that zz top are cooler. Good man.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dance margarita:
GREG. an elf called GREG. this is just another reason why i will never really understand computer games. did you call the elf greg, stephen?

yeah i did. and his dog was clifferd.
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
oh thats okay. carry on.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
do you think zztop or acker dacker?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
The Blues had a baby and they named the baby Rock 'n' Roll.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
sounds like you're accepting that zz top are cooler. Good man.

I'd go along with that. The beards also make it easier to like them with an air of ironic detachment, which is probably also cooler.
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
oh, im top all the way, man. in my head an acker- dacker concertis all like, women with lumpy midriffs and short denim skirts wiggling their tongues at angus and pretending to lasso things. a classy lady like myself is naturally more attracted to zz top, who are generally a more chi- chi sort of proposition in ways that i think are too obvious to outline here, this close to lunchtime.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
pretending to lasso things?!?!?!?
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
It seems odd to use the quality of the crowd as a tie-breaker between AC/DC and ZZ Top, given that they would probably be more or less identical.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
the problem with the more bluesy side of things is that seems to move towards the kind of audiophile approach to music. i associate the blues these days with middle aged men insisting that people listen to the clarity of high def bb king recordings on their latest naim bullshit. So, that's something that needs to be taken in account. Still doesn't prevent Billy Gibbons from fucking winning everything.

[ 06.01.2010, 07:05: Message edited by: Kanye West ]
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
It seems odd to use the quality of the crowd as a tie-breaker between AC/DC and ZZ Top, given that they would probably be more or less identical.

no way
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
ZZ Top i think of summer evenings at backyard bbq-based outdoor festivals in texas, but ac dc, more likely to be the milton keynes bowl, or somewhere in germany, during a recession, and its pissing it down. don't know why.


 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
I don't think you can pass off your own free-associations, that even you don't understand, as fact.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i suppose because acdc don't seem to have a sense of place or history about them. The music is context free.. perhaps lacking part of the 'human' experience as a result? there's a raw escapism as a result of this cultural dislocation, but is escapism as satisfying as a feeling of being part of human history? I know that's not quite it, but you know what i mean? zz top feels like it's carrying on an old tradition, it's got a cultural meaning beyond the sensory experience. your accountant man craves this because he feels his own life lacks this 'authenticity' and sense of natural progression ie meaning. there's a satisfaction there, but also the music comes pre-validated, perhaps making it a 'safer' choice.

[ 06.01.2010, 07:24: Message edited by: Kanye West ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
At a new years party I nearly got into an argument with a massive Australian by insisting it's impossible to seriously be a fan of Kiss in a totally earnest and unironic fashion. Apparently this dude had tens of thousands of pounds worth of Kiss memorabilia in his flat. Mental. It all kicked off because he said kiss > journey.

Sorry about the lack of forza, benway. I know you were looking forward to it. But Reema is using my network cable for work stuff. Sorry.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
i suppose because acdc don't seem to have a sense of place or history about them.

That seems mostly to do with the ubiquity of American iconography, though. The Cadillacs, the bikes, playing a guitar with a coin instead of a pick are all pieces of borrowed imagery that each carry their own cultural weight, familiar, easy to pin down to other associations. On the other hand AC/DC are 'Australian', as though the whole of Australia is exactly the same. Because Australia doesn't have the colossal cultural dominance that the US boasts, it's harder for you to pin that to familiar images. So I can see your point, even if it does boil down to "I like ZZ Top best because they're American".
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
I think that being 'into America' in general is about needing to feel a sense of meaning and continuity. It's the home of modern mythology, the birthplace of global products, aspirations, attitude. I think that the power of the music that zz top plays is to do with amplifying this and allowing you to feel a part of it... it speaks to that part of you that has taken this stuff in even though it doesn't have the personal / cultural relevance it would to three guys from texas. Also you know, it is great sounding stuff. bluesy, beardy, dirty. wevs.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
also AC DC seem like they come more from 'planet rock' than australia.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
that placelessness allows the listener to template personal or subcultral mythology into the experience... hence why the kind of rock we get from acdc etc seems to celebrated in pop culture via the individual ie waynes world, jack black. it comes down to zz top being more 'social' and acdc etc being more 'personal', if we accept that subculture is society modelled around the notion of the individual - being part of something that directly speaks and interacts with the individual rather than being something in which the individual is a culturally powerless agent / consumer.

[ 06.01.2010, 07:48: Message edited by: Kanye West ]
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
anyway, it is still snowing
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
thats alright about forza, i am half heartedly sending work related emails at the moment.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
that placelessness allows the listener to template personal or subcultral mythology into the experience... hence why the kind of rock we get from acdc etc seems to celebrated in pop culture via the individual ie waynes world, jack black. it comes down to zz top being more 'social' and acdc etc being more 'personal', if we accept that subculture is society modelled around the notion of the individual - being part of something that directly speaks and interacts with the individual rather than being something in which the individual is a culturally powerless agent / consumer.

I like their song about gonnorhea.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
It is still snowing.

Every call I've dealt with is pre-fixed with 'I'm at home using my citrix connection for the first time' and I want to interrupt them with 'WHY? Why would you take the opportunity to test your token during an event of extreme weather conditions? You belming spazhat!' but I politely help them out instead.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Check your gMail michael.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
michael, thorn needs you to check your gmail. We'll wait, it's fine.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
AC/DC are 'Australian', as though the whole of Australia is exactly the same. Because Australia doesn't have the colossal cultural dominance that the US boasts, it's harder for you to pin that to familiar images.

I know that AC/DC class as being Australian, but really they are as much British Rock as Sabbath, Judas Priest, Deep Purple, Queen... all that lot. Angus and Malcolm and Bon Scott were all born in Scotland and didn't move till they were 7 or 8 years old, and I can't imagine my kids who are that sort of age ever becoming "Australian" if we moved there now. Cliff Williams is English. And obviously Brian Johnson is a Geordie. So Phil Rudd is the only actual Aussie in the band.

It's only for geographical reasons that they are associated with Australia, not cultural.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
michael have you checked your gmail yet? Thorn sent you an email about a paintballing weekend.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
thorn btw i can do the paintballing on the saturday but I can't do sunday because I'm going to be in hospital having paint scraped from the inside of my right eye socket.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i'll email michael to let him know that we're waiting.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
That happened to my dad, actually.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
michael have you checked your gmail yet?

He hasn't replied yet, so I don't think he can have checked it.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
I know that AC/DC class as being Australian, but really they are as much British Rock as Sabbath, Judas Priest, Deep Purple, Queen... all that lot. Angus and Malcolm and Bon Scott were all born in Scotland and didn't move till they were 7 or 8 years old, and I can't imagine my kids who are that sort of age ever becoming "Australian" if we moved there now. Cliff Williams is English. And obviously Brian Johnson is a Geordie. So Phil Rudd is the only actual Aussie in the band.

It's only for geographical reasons that they are associated with Australia, not cultural.

I'll be honest: I don't give a tinker's wab where they're from. It's kind of irrelevant.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
my point exactly.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
I agree with you on it.

Anyway, it seems unfair to steal one of Australia's few successful rock acts and declare it British, especially when all that leaves them with is INXS and - if you want to be exceptionally cruel - Crowded House.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
that's harrowing about your dad, mart.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
What happened was that back in the late 80s (I think), my dad was sent to do a feature on the new craze hitting the UK, known as paintballing. They were given all the gear, and off they trooped into the woods to do some paint-based war.

Thirty seconds into the action, my dad's goggles slipped just as someone shot him in the head. More specifically, in his left eye, from quite close range. He ended up in hospital and found it quite hard to write anything particularly positive or even very informative about paintballing.

He's alright now, though.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
did he lose his eye
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
No. He was perfectly alright.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
okay - phew! I thought maybe he had paint scraped from his eye socket, because you said it happened to him, but obviously it didn't.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
You've forgotten Nirvana wannabes Silverchair. They're definitely Australian.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
thorn is not alone in forgetting about silverchair.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
I might have made up the going to hospital bit, actually. I just remember his eye swelling up a lot, as if the ball of paint was actually lodged under his lower eyelid. Which is wasn't; that's just the body's way of dealing with trauma of that kind.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
I thought maybe he had paint scraped from his eye socket

No, the resulting mess was probably just wiped off with a cloth of some kind, and then I imagine the eye area was rinsed in plenty of water. Bit sketchy on precise detail here, I know.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
well the injury that I'm going to be suffering with on the sunday will be far more severe, due to the fact that on saturday thorn will kneecap me with magenta before jamming the barrel of his gun into my eye and letting off six rounds of lime green, puncturing and shredding my eyeball, and only just stopping short of cracking the back of the eye socket and painting my actual brain. Considering what I did to him only ten minutes before that moment though, this atrocity is more than justified.

I feel like I will fucked up my tenses there.

[ 06.01.2010, 08:41: Message edited by: Kanye West ]
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
michael? email?
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I've sent him a letter to let him know that he needs to check and respond to his e-mail. I'll send him a message via Xbox when I get home.
 
Posted by Hades (Member # 57) on :
 
Bought a little portable heater. Its sucessfully keeping me warm in teh shopping centre.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
does anybody have his work number? Maybe we can raise a support call.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Why are you sitting in a shopping Centre Hades? Are you trying to persuade people to change their gas and electricity?
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I've sent him a pager message and a fax. I hope he'll respond to Thorn soon as Thorn just rung me in tears about the fact that Mikee was ignoring him.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
are you going to the paintballing?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Golden Earring, Midnight Oil... Um... That's it, isn't it? Oh, The Saints... Was it The Saints? Punk band..? No... No..?
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I don't know what paintballing you're talking about. I'm certainly not going to take my revenge on not being invited by getting there early with a high powered customised paintball gun and build a camo bivouac in the trees and shoot you all when you don't think there are any enemy combatants near, certainly not.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Can you get paintball roadside bombs?
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
michael can you forward the email to cherry.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I'm sure I saw paintball grenades somewhere.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Or a paintball suicide vest...
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
what about paintboarding.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Can you get paintball roadside bombs?

That would be quite cool/cruel, actually. Set up a collossal tank of exploding paint on the road approaching the paintballing site... Give 'em a taste of modern warfare.
 
Posted by Hades (Member # 57) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
Why are you sitting in a shopping Centre Hades? Are you trying to persuade people to change their gas and electricity?

Bizzarly we're not meant to tell people what we do for "security reasons" ....... but fuck it. I buy gold.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
what about paintboarding.

lol
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
The best way to contact Mikee is through the medium of Paint.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Oh! Are you like those tv ad companies that take someones gold that is worth about £200 and offer them £40 for it and then if they say no you bump it up to like £50 and then laugh as they have to sell their family heirlooms to buy scratchcards and cat food?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Or melt that gold down into bodywork panels for a classic Rolls Royce...
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
are you in the jewlerry trade, phil? Or are you working for a supervillain who needs vast amounts of gold for the construction of a nefarious doomsday device? That would explain the secrecy.

[ 06.01.2010, 09:18: Message edited by: Kanye West ]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Why would you do it in a shopping centre? Do you just waltz into Samuels and say "I'll give you five hundred nicker for the lot!"
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Golden Earring, Midnight Oil... Um... That's it, isn't it? Oh, The Saints... Was it The Saints? Punk band..? No... No..?

Nick Cave would be the real contribution of Australia to music, I expect. Golden Earring are Dutch. I don't know of The Saints, must admit.

The Bee Gees are from the Isle of Man.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I just checked my e-mail and I don't have anything about the paintballing Mikee. Could you send it again.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
what the hell is he playing at?
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
re: Australian bands. Ray and Dave Davies are from Melbourne, I believe.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
re: Australian bands. Ray and Dave Davies are from Melbourne, I believe.

Are you thinking of Rolf Harris?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Oh yeah, Nick Cave... I always think of him more as a Tom Waits impersonator rather than an actual musician.

Don't know how the Golden Earring confusion happened, maybe they just look Australian.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
savage garden
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Sorry! Not Golden Earring! Rose Tattoo! I was thinking of Rose Tattoo.

 -

Fronted by Angry Anderson.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
do you think phil has been sacked
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Another good band name for them would have been Gay Secure Ward.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I've sent Phil an e-mail to find out if he's been sacked and whether he's up for paintballing. I'll let you know if I hear anything.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
they do look like they are gay.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
are they gay? I assumed they weren't, but now I'm thinking they are.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Does it really matter? Really?
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
You can't tell if someone's gay just by looking at them! That's crazy!
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
nothing matters, really.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
you can tell that bm is gay when you first meet him. Like, instantly.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
They look like they sound really bad. But you wouldn't want to tell them that. In case they bummed you to death.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I ooze gay. It's my best feature. That and my cock.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
so gay.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
87 uncut inches of unutterable terror.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
The snow is REALLY coming down now.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
gosh, you're right.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
It's sunny in Birmingham now. Bright blazing sunshine. I'm going to the shop to buy some milk. This will be the first time I've left the house since Sunday.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
The snow stopped here a couple of hours ago and I'm leaving the office in 35 minutes and it means the pavements will just be slippy slushy death traps. I shall try not to fall over and injure myself as I need to keep in good shape for the paintballing.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
The snow's gone nuts. It's forecast to get EVEN WORSE.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
It's like AI nano-snow. Programmed to rape and murder. Snow frenzy. Critical snow.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
It's OK - I've had a reply from Mikee. He'd accidentally only replied to physic, instead of using the 'reply to all' button. A classic email blunder.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
The snow is now blood red.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
I'm sure I saw paintball grenades somewhere.

You can definitely get paintball grenades. They had them at the place I went to in Cardiff. Not sure if City Paintball in London uses them, though. Indoor paintball with paint grenades would be ridiculous.

RE: Australian bands. There's also Airbourne, who are getting famous (had sold out Oxford Academy when I went to see them), although they do sound the same as AC/DC. Like, precisely, exactly the same.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
The snow is now screaming.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Airbourne sounding like AC/DC
 
Posted by Hades (Member # 57) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
Oh! Are you like those tv ad companies that take someones gold that is worth about £200 and offer them £40 for it and then if they say no you bump it up to like £50 and then laugh as they have to sell their family heirlooms to buy scratchcards and cat food?

I'd say we're not as bad as the "send your gold in the post" deals.

Of course there is no "what its worth" really.
There is the Bullion rate but thats a)for pure 24ct gold bars. not shitty bits of 9ct (37.5% gold fact fans) b) the rate that investors and banks trade it at not the scrap value.
Why would we buy it at that price when the company can't even sell it on at that price plus they have the overheads to pay (my wages, my expences, the stand rent costs, the smelting costs).

People can indeed haggle with us. As you can with most bussinesses (i haggled with Curry's getting my TV) no company or busniness goes in with the best price they COULD do something for. But we'll always try and beat any other quote you get. not always possible because other companies may have less overheads but we'll give it a go.

[ 06.01.2010, 10:15: Message edited by: Hades ]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I am now examining one of the snow flakes under a microscope. It bears the ghastly animated faces of souls damned to the Abyss. It is propelling itself across the slide by the flexing and lashing of minutely tiny microfilaments. It-it is reaching... reaching out... for his brothers. They are at the window! Now!
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
That sounds awful. The snow we have here is very kind.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I thoughtfully prepared a hip-flask this morning.

Unfortunately, it contains Sailor Jerry.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Still snowing here in West Berkshire. Chinese people came out from the takeaway with their kids and spent an hour making snow angels and snowballing each other. That's not quite what I mean. They looked like they enjoyed themselves though.

I'm sitting here designing flag icons for every country in the world (including ones that don't even exist any more) in a fucking "Mac style".

Anyway, my county only has enough grit for one more gritting of roads. Then we all die.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
I'm back from the shops.
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
We're all extremely relieved to hear that, mart.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
hullo mart.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
I'm good at providing relief, Hippy.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Are you making a move on Benway's bird mart? I think he'll got revenge for that when we go paintballing.
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
I'll look forward to further relief.

Was there actually milk in the shop, mart? I popped into the local supermarket on the way home last night and the inhabitants of North Bristol have obviously stocked up as if for a siege - there was no milk, sliced bread or toilet paper to be had.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
I was flirting, yes. It was like a double entendre, where you could interpret what I meant in two ways. There was an overt sexual tone to it though, that's very true.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
I was flirting, yes. It was like a double entendre, where you could interpret what I meant in two ways. There was an overt sexual tone to it though, that's very true.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Looks like I just doubled your pleasure there.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
There was plenty of milk.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
A quadruple entendre. Or an entendre squared.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
milk, sliced bread, and toilet paper. a classic winter dish.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
right.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I quite like the sound of panic-buying.
 
Posted by Hades (Member # 57) on :
 
I Imagine its like an episode of supermarket Sweep
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I can't be bothered with panic buying. When things get desparate I'll just turn to panic breaking and entering and stealing
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
I sometime try to do panic earning. It goes really well for a bit, and then I get lazy, or run out of work.
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
i just went to hennes and panic bought a cardigan and some earrings. it was good.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Amsterdam just had 3 inches of snow in 30 minutes..

Made my walk home cold.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Good old Amsterdam.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
great.
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
i wont be leaving the house tomorrow, and am trying not to use my mobile internet because mu'fu's ask stupid cheese to do that shit, yo. just, you know, preempting any concerns about my safety. im not leaving the house. i have no reason to leave the house commitments- wise, and there will be ice, and Ice is Not Nice, and i live on a hill, because even though my BIGGEST FEAR IN THE ENTIRE WORLD IS ICY HILLS i keep moving into HOUSES HALFWAY UP MOTHERFUCKING HILLS, and so therefore my entire head is like ICE + HILL = MASSIVE BULLSHIT MAY ENSUE. so im on lockdown. i have tescos pre- filled pasta and ready sauce, and i think maybe one bowl of muesli, and some fruit, and like some bread and milk and tobacco and all that shit, and of course i panic- bought a cardigan and some new earrings. so i should be okay. but if i havent checked in by saturday, you might want to call in international rescue.
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
now i need to get off the internet and go into lockdown before it gets dark. ICE + HILLS+ DARKNESS = BEWARE, MASSIVE BULLSHIT AHEAD.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Good luck, DeeEm!
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Everyone still alive today? I'm in work, no real dramas. None of the snow has disappeared. I imagine it'll be here for a while yet. But it's no problem really.
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
I'm just about to try and defrost the car and get to work.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
well ill now. working from home again. starting to get cabin fever.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I walked into work this morning. It was a really pleasant walk as there were no cars or buses about so I just walked down the middle of western road and then North street which are normally rammed full of traffic. It was a bit 28 days later but with other people walking and no zombies and not in London.

Really it was just like a road without many cars.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Think I've finally managed to fix the inner tube on the pram. Five separate punctures it had. No idea how it managed to get that many. I've felt around the rim and the inside of the wheel and there doesn't appear to be anything suspicious there. I suspect Kate was pusing it through broken glass or something. So, Kate might be able to leave the house for the first time in days but I don't reckon she will as it's still pretty treacherous.

Got my mage to sleep with Zevran last night. That was easy. Completed the gauntlet and found the urn of sacred ashes and then went outside and hit the gong and killed the dragon. Got some dragon scale armour now which is good protection but no real bonuses which is disappointing. Alistair is a big gayer and wouldn't put it up me.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Apparently it was -17 or something in Oxford last night. I hope Thorn and family are OK.

I'm also praying for Omarion.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
just had a conference call about doing some data forensics before a meeting next friday with global compliance. I never wanted this for my life.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Just here in the office cracking on with some work really. Thinking about getting a coffee and trying to decide whether to get a 10p cup from the vending machine which is drinkable but not great or to go downstairs to costa and get a larger cup for 83p which is about three times the size and a bit nicer.

From a pure volume perspective obviously the vending machine is better however is it worth paying about 2 1/2 times the price for each ml of coffee for something that is just a bit nicer. I suspect it is probably 1 1/2 times as nice so the maths would really suggest I should go to the vending machine.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
there were a few years there where it seemed like i might be able to break free of this merry hell. cherry doesn't it drive you to despair when you think about working for a corporate?
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
You'll be glad to hear that I sorted out the problem with the Australian reporting and I got an e-mail from them saying

quote:
Seb, I understand exactly what you have said and will be inputting the new formula into our GCE Template for 2010.

I feel confident now that Australia's results are being correctly reflected on a Team, Business Unit and MTS level.

This has been the highlight of my working week. I never wanted this.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Nunhead has entered a new Ice Age.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
It isn't what I dreamt of Benway, but I'm a filthy whore and these big American companies pay well enough to satisfy my list for trinkets.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
I had to turn down work today from a new client that I seem to have acquired, as I have a deadline with my best client for tomorrow morning, and am still sick as a dog.

It's sunny again here in Birmingham, and wasn't really very cold at all last night. My girlfriend (the actress) and I were both sweating under the duvet. Though that was probably my fever.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
It isn't what I dreamt of Benway, but I'm a filthy whore and these big American companies pay well enough to satisfy my list for trinkets.

yes, i know what you mean. the people i work for pay alright as well i suppose. did you know that i'm an 'executive' now? I should be 'angling for a promotion to manager' or something, if i cared.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
there were a few years there where it seemed like i might be able to break free of this merry hell. cherry doesn't it drive you to despair when you think about working for a corporate?

Pro-tip: If you don't want to work for a corporation, don't get a job working for a corporation. If you're already working for a corporation, apply for a job that isn't at a corporation.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I'm hoping to become an executive this month. I will then look to get into project management because that's what gets the women excited.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
What does being an executive mean, or entail?
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i'm stil massively torn between going into project management and taking on ownership of system components and processes, or just sacking it all off and learning to be much more technical. I've dabbled in things like html, js, vb, etc, and now i've started on c#, i'm wondering if i should put all my energy into really learning something like ajax, python, ruby, or c. not sure.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Don't you think you'd be happier in something a touch more creative?
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
but once you're a manager you're basically a politician, and at the moment I can kind of keep out of most of the shit, and just zone out when I'm in meetings until somebody says my name, and then I have to choose between saying 'yes' or 'no' or 'sorry i wasn't listening'.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I wonder if anyone actually genuinely enjoys being a corporate cocksucker
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
some people do. Some people love it, because it's all about gaining power and influence.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
It's not, like, actual power though is it. You can't actually do anything useful with this power. Outside of that little office environment, where you can maybe affect some kind of petty vendetta against a junior member of staff.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
I told one of my friends yesterday that I was thinking of getting chartered. She replied "But isn't that really difficult?" as though saying "honestly, mate when you're as fucking stupid as you are, I wouldn't even bother trying". Then she said "I know Octavia did it", in a tone that contained the unspoken message "But you're twice as thick as her, even on one of your better days". It was depressing, and put me off the whole idea.

[ 07.01.2010, 05:49: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Yeah. Fucking weirdos, man. Seriously. And people who are workaholics -- what the fuck. And then there are people who actually enjoy their jobs and going to work. Jesus. I'll never understand it.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
It's not, like, actual power though is it. You can't actually do anything useful with this power. Outside of that little office environment, where you can maybe affect some kind of petty vendetta against a junior member of staff.

You don't need to be a corporate cocksucker to do this. It's perfectly possible to be vindictive and petty in the public sector, or for in a privately owned business.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
What does getting chartered mean, or entail?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I suppose, yeah. Maybe just a cocksucker.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
What does getting chartered mean, or entail?

Something to do with ocean liners I think
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
It's not, like, actual power though is it. You can't actually do anything useful with this power. Outside of that little office environment, where you can maybe affect some kind of petty vendetta against a junior member of staff.

nah, it's about schmoozing, about influencing those higher up, bending the system to your will, becoming a 'node'.. people who are into power love this sense of being vital. In terms of perks, it's fine dining, international travel, five star hotels, large budgets and industry fame.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
What does getting chartered mean, or entail?

It would entail doing a term long course at the local marketing school and getting a Post graduate diploma after three months of looking at case studies, learning about strategy and taking exams. It'd open up much higher level jobs and I'd end up working for Sony, writing reports saying things like "After careful analysis of the market we must conclude that launching a high-spec cassette player at this point in the audio-product lifecycle would probably be a mistake", and deciding that the new ad-campaign should feature a pretty woman in a snappy dress standing in an apartment with wooden floorboards, near a Sony TV.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
So you would be a chartered.... what?
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i would like to be more creative, or creative at all, but I kind of feel that the thing stopping me isn't opportunity, but the fact that I'm not very creatively minded.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
i'm wondering if i should put all my energy into really learning something like ajax, python, ruby, or c. not sure.

I recommend jQuery (JavaScript library), if you want to quickly learn something genuinely useful (and if you don't know it already, obv). That will sort you out with Ajax at the same time and with a lot less grief.

I found "jQuery In Action" (Manning books) to be pretty good, and there is a pdf of it here, which is presumably dodgy, but it works. And there are the usual free tutorials on the web, including the excellent official site.

A very large number of web developer job ads ask for jQuery these days, so it's really worth learning, not just a niche thing.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
So you would be a chartered.... what?

Marketeer.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
i would like to be more creative, or creative at all, but I kind of feel that the thing stopping me isn't opportunity, but the fact that I'm not very creatively minded.

I think we all know that this is the opposite of true.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
That sounds excitingly close to Musketeer which I will assume is largely the same thing.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
A chartered marketeer? You're just making it up.

Oh no hang on you're not. There's a Chartered Institute of Marketing *.

Represented by these people!!!
 -

What a crazy bunch. Is that the very best image that the very best marketers could come up with? Is it saying hey, anyone could be a marketer -- even people who look retarded and have no dress sense. Trying for a broad appeal.

Maybe?
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
That sounds excitingly close to Musketeer which I will assume is largely the same thing.

Basically exactly the same. I suppose the fact that my friend is saying "No that's too difficult, you'll never do it don't even bother trying" makes me D'Artagnan.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
no, it is true. i don't have the freedom of will and drive that you need to be creative. I feel like to be creative you need to be able to navigate your own mind really quickly, make connections easily, have a faith and understanding about the value of your own ideas, and I have none of that. Anyway, lol. Let's not go down this path again eh.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
photo: octavia, bandy, ?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Snorton?
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
yes.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
no, it is true. i don't have the freedom of will and drive that you need to be creative. I feel like to be creative you need to be able to navigate your own mind really quickly, make connections easily, have a faith and understanding about the value of your own ideas, and I have none of that.

I dunno. Cormac McCarthy said "anything that doesn't take years of your life and drive you nearly to suicide hardly seems worth doing", and he's quite a creative fellow. Of course quoting that when it takes you four years to come up with a strapline for the new Codemasters game probably won't go down too well.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i suppose that in that case, what I'm doing now is really worth doing.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
I don't know who Cormac thingy is but he sounds like a cock.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
I thought it was quite a cool quote that summed up the agonizing self-doubt, frustration and grind of trying to write something you think is good. I found it quite inspiring.

And so should Benway if he thinks creative people just hurtle through brilliant ideas at 100 words a minute.

[ 07.01.2010, 06:25: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I think he's written a few travel books
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
 -
You will give us your money.
You have no idea what we do.
NEITHER DO WE!
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
they're marketeers, not public sector employees.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
I'll just sit here twiddling my thumbs, waiting for someone to tell me my friend is wrong and I'm probably smart enough to get this qualification.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
I think it makes him sound like he's showing off about what a tortured soul he is. Or that being tortured is the only way to go about things, when there are loads of really great creatives that go about their craft without getting very bogged down by all that gubbins.

I reckon.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
no, it is true. i don't have the freedom of will and drive that you need to be creative. I feel like to be creative you need to be able to navigate your own mind really quickly, make connections easily, have a faith and understanding about the value of your own ideas, and I have none of that. Anyway, lol. Let's not go down this path again eh.

I think it can seem like that, when you see the finished product of someone creative it can seem like it was effortless and that can make you feel like you might as well not even try. But I think generally the reality is quite different. Recently for example I watched an interview of Charlie Brooker in which he said writing was just a horrible struggle for him, whereas whenever I've read his stuff it just seems like a easy stream of consciousness type thing that he just blats off in a half hour typing frenzy.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
He's a cock as well. I watched a TV show of his and it was really quite bad.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
 -
We are not Public Sector employees.
We are far too happy.
We have good skin.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
I think it makes him sound like he's showing off about what a tortured soul he is. Or that being tortured is the only way to go about things, when there are loads of really great creatives that go about their craft without getting very bogged down by all that gubbins.

I reckon.

Yes, I wondered whether I'd done him a disservice by removing the quote from context - in the original interview, alongside the director of The Road it doesn't seem at all pompous, taking place over a few hours and a couple of bottles of wine. The answer was in response to a the interviewer saying "now that you're getting older do you feel like doing short stories and things that might get finished a bit faster".
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
He's a cock as well. I watched a TV show of his and it was really quite bad.

Yeah I didn't like his Television game show which is maybe the most mainstream thing he's done so far - that I can think of anyway... But I think you'll find a lot of his other stuff is good.

He does sound a bit like Jonathon King though.

[ 07.01.2010, 06:34: Message edited by: Tilde ]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
 -
Hi, I'm Thorn Davis!
These two bitches are Benway!
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
such a gaylord.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i once asked my mother what a gaylord was

"why?"

"because that's what they call me in school"

[ 07.01.2010, 06:38: Message edited by: Kanye West ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Brooker's game show wasn't all that great. His Screen/News/Gameswipe shows have all been brilliant though.

I didn't see Dead Set but that got good reviews.

Nathan Barley was fucking awful though.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
 -
Blond Benway: Gurrggle!
Conehead Benway: Murrrr!
Brown Benway: FlleeeeH!
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Here's the original interview. He sounds quite affable, like Mart.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
It was some dreadful review of the year on telly, which had some amusing insults aimed at some very easy targets, and a lot of false annoyance from him as he tried to do a sort of angry man complaining about shit that everyone knows is bad.

Fair play to him if he gets work out of that sort of thing, though. I don't.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
He does sound quite unassuming and likeable, you're right Thorn.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i liked nathan barley. it was a show about brooker really, as this man who writes a scathing attack on a community, only to be embraced and deified by that community. His own naivety in thinking that he could make a difference, and that honesty meant anything, and why, in the end, you find yourself joining the idiots.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I thought Nathan Barley was about Benway.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
 -

The chap in the middle is introducing his girlfriend on the right to his mother on the left. His mother is laughing with relief because when he told her his girlfriend's name was Pradeep she had assumed that she was going to be really muslim'd up with a full veil and guff. But actually it turns out she's hardly ethnic at all!
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i've met and talked to brooker. at a party with ben and london. those were the days.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
i've met and talked to brooker. at a party with ben and london. those were the days.

lol
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
That sounds awful. That actually sounds like a kind of hell.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
I had a weird corporate experience yesterday, which I'd like to tell you about.

In 2007 I did a few months work on a fairly high profile web application for a large corporation. I was only part of a team, but I did develop one really important part of the interface.

So, anyway, yesterday I applied for a job with a media agency and decided to have a look round their website while I was waiting to be turned down. I'd never heard of this place before but, WTF, I found a reference in their portfolio to the very application I'd worked on in 2007. Not only that, there was a proper corporate video presentation about the application, in which they enthused about what a great job they'd done on it, mainly highlighting the bit that I'd worked on as being the cutting edge and futuristic feature they were most proud of (these are their words).

Not only that, but they had the corporate client on there singing the praises of this media agency and going on about what an excellent development team they had.

I did some searching around and found that this company, as far as I can tell, actually host the application and support it. I really can't see any way they can claim to have developed it. It was definitely designed by a completely different agency, because I was at quite a few of the design meetings, and the code was written by us.

They even have one guy on the video saying that it's something he's really proud of and that his children and his retired parents all use it and are very impressed that he built it.

WTF, I say again. I'm not trying to claim credit for the thing - I was just one of the developers on a big project - but I'm just astonished that some guy I've never heard of should go on camera to announce his pride in the work he did. That's how corporate life seems to work though.

I've come across similar things before, where a bit of work you do ends up on other people's CVs because they had some involvement in organising the tea and biscuits for meetings or something, but this is the most blatant I've come across so far.
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
Hi everyone! Hi! I'm not dead! I'm lying in bed, in my pants and gowner, surfing the internet on my mobile phone. I've had some muesli and all my limbs are intact. Later i am going to write an essay about the holistic model as applied to experiences of mental distress, and maybe paint my bedroom windowsill. Ice aint so bad really. I don't understand ppl who didn't like nathan barley. I thought it was towering.
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
Tiny cocking screen

[ 07.01.2010, 07:05: Message edited by: dance margarita ]
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
hullo dm.
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
Hullo kanye
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
we have 'natural chemistry'.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
I'm starting to get annoyed with women posting their bra colour on Facebook.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
leave facebook alone, what are you, 13? Christ.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Social networking sites are indispensable to 21st Century marketeers. I saw a seminar on it. You use them to make things go viral.
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
Hey i was just listening to some nlp dude on radio bristol talking about how every human being needs to get really clear about what they want from their life, stop engaging with the Tyranny of the Shoulds (thats my phrase, not his) and work out what their dream is, what they really want to do. And i was thinking, well, i'd really like to be able to sleep a lot, read books, do yoga, sit in trendy cafes drinking rooibosch and checking out the honeys and writing. I'm pretty clear about that. Can anybody think of a way in which i can turn that into a living, even a modest one? No. I cant. You cant either. Nlp is some massive bullshit.

[ 07.01.2010, 07:31: Message edited by: dance margarita ]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
NLP is *******ness created by ***** for *****.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Can you imagine what a fucking state the human race would be in if people only did What They Wanted To Do. Honestly.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Also, isn't NLP responsible for those PUA cock-jockeys that Steelgate and Tilde worship.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
The 27 Habits of Highly Gullible People...
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Cosmic Fucking Ordering...
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
.

[ 07.01.2010, 07:38: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Creative Fucking Visualisation...
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
I'm starting to get annoyed with women posting their bra colour on Facebook.

Apparently the best way to 'raise awareness' of a designated cause is to promote unexplained cliquey behaviour in order to inspire curiosity/disgust in your peers.
Thanks for explaining that, my love. Also - you're logged in as me.

[ 07.01.2010, 07:36: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
I think if i were to make up some immensely popular self- help regime that would probably fund my hatha/herbal/ bearded artboy ogling habits. But i wouldn't do that, because self- help is only justifiable if it is done whit some suggestion of integrity and altruistic intention and i don't think i would be able to claim that.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dance margarita:
self- help is only justifiable if it is done whit some suggestion of integrity and altruistic intention

lol

Hugga, puh-leeze.
 
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
Thanks for explaining that, my love. Also - you're logged in as me.

(I realise that now. Did I explain something everyone already knew?)

[ 07.01.2010, 07:41: Message edited by: Octavia ]
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
I don't really know what anyone on this page is talking about.
 
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
 
Neuro-linguistic programming, becoming a chartered marketer, stupid campaigns on facebook.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
somebody call graham linehan - material for the next series of IT Crowd is being generated RIGHT NOW.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Snow mart?
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dance margarita:
[qb] lol

Hugga, puh-leeze.

sorry, forgot to finish the sentence- '...which is almost never'. Dorothy rowe gets a pass i suppose.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Octavia:
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
Thanks for explaining that, my love. Also - you're logged in as me.

(I realise that now. Did I explain something everyone already knew?)
No. I don't think anyone knows what the hell that was about. It probably needs a full explanation, unless no-one cares, which is possible.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I think we should all start calling each other 'my love'. Particularly if we don't mean it.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
FTR I only added that in because I was talking to myself.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
'my love' seems like what you'd call an OAP in your care at an old people's home before you smothered then with a pillow for financial gain.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Sure, my love.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
'my love' seems like what you'd call an OAP in your care at an old people's home before you smothered then with a pillow for financial gain.

It's not.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
okay, I can roll with that.
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
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All right my love?
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
Okay, so i get a job in a care home, make friends with a rich, frail client, invest the requisite time until i am made sold beneficiary, smother client, attend will reading, and them enjoy life of yogic leisure and cafe- based lasciviousness. Thats a plan. although it does involve murder, manipulation, and a basic disregard for boundaries and person- centred care.

[ 07.01.2010, 08:07: Message edited by: dance margarita ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
There's not really a genuinely altruistic means of exploiting others for personal financial gain.
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
Yes there is! Its called 'reiki'. Oh, new age satire, om shanti lol.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
selling handjobs?
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
not really exploiting others i suppose. is it?
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
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Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Lol I didn't notice the hands...
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
photoshop disaster
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
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Brucie has pale hands and a cock with fingers.
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
I'm actually in the process of writing a comedy monologue about new age therapies and charlatanism at the moment. Well, i'm not, but i'm thinking about it. Ringo has just written a very funny line that would work very well in said monologue, and i would like very much to steal it, and not give him any credit at all at any point.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Hello lawsuit..
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Hello lawsuit..

well if said monologue is ever published i will ensure that you get a printed acknowledgment of your contribution. More to the point, if its ever actually written you can in turn ensure that there is a runway in the vicinity, so that the monkeys flying out of my butt will have somewhere safe to land.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Ok, it's a deal
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
i'm listening to zz top.

[ 07.01.2010, 09:25: Message edited by: Kanye West ]
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
now I'm listening to 'the chain' by fleetwood mac.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Went to bed last night and pretty much all the snow had melted, woke up this morning to another thick blanket of snow. Bored of it now.

Meant to have my interview at 12 today but I know the woman interviewing me lives out in the country so imagine she won't be able to make it in [Mad]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
There was still a whole bunch of snow left over from last week here. The trees and bushes weren't snowy but there was still a couple of inches on the ground. We've had maybe another inch overnight.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
WE've returned to London to discover that we have no hot water.

Getting a new boiler and having it installed is horribly expensive, right?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Had about 2-3 inches of snow on top of the existing icy mush. Probably could've stayed at home. Didn't.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
Getting a new boiler and having it installed is horribly expensive, right?

[Frown] YES [Frown]
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I know someone on TMT had to get a new one and their quotes were around £2500 [Frown]
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Flipping heck innit.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
You might not need a whole new boiler though. Do you know how old your boiler is, and when it last had an annual service?
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
No. But some engineer came to look at it recently (while we were away) and said it was fooked, and we need a new one. "Fault with circuit board and diverter valve. Recommend new boiler due to age and condition."
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
Also! it might be that your pipes are frozen rather than your boiler being bust. Unless your boiler's bust, that is.

ETA sounds like your boiler's bust.

£2500 sounds quite cheap based on when I spoke to a chap from British Gas on the topic last year...it might have been because they would have needed to re-site my boiler as where it is currently is no longer compliant with whatever safety standards they have in place, so maybe the numbers he gave me were higher than normal.

[ 13.01.2010, 05:30: Message edited by: H1ppychick ]
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Yeah, from the little I've read about it, the price seems to vary from about 800 quid to literally thousands and thousands, due to all sorts of new regulations that may or may not apply to your house, your boiler, etc.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
Went to bed last night and pretty much all the snow had melted, woke up this morning to another thick blanket of snow. Bored of it now.

Same here, except it hadn't really melted from before. Haven't had a mail service for over a week now. Council aren't picking up the rubbish. Also the bus service seems to finally be falling apart, so had to walk most of the way in. Bah.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by H1ppychick:
£2500 sounds quite cheap based on when I spoke to a chap from British Gas on the topic last year...

British Gas a total rip off for this sort of thing. They quoted us £7,000, against quotes of £4,000 from reputable local firms. They send a nice, friendly, suited rep to quote, who creams off a whole lot of profit for BG and then effectively subcontracts the work to a local tradesman.

quote:
Originally posted by mart:
Yeah, from the little I've read about it, the price seems to vary from about 800 quid to literally thousands and thousands, due to all sorts of new regulations that may or may not apply to your house, your boiler, etc.

Yes, for example we had to have our flue extended and bent back over the roof of our property because it's now illegal for a flue to extend over someone else's land.

Make sure your installer is *Gas Safe registered!
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
We had 3in of snow last night in Bristol on top of about 2in of last week's remnants, but it's not particularly cold today and forecast to warm up over the next few days so it should hopefully disappear more quickly than previously.
 
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
Flip. We got a new combi boiler and radiators in all rooms fitted for about £1500 or so, maybe 7 years ago though.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
That seems very cheap. Did you fly Brian in from Massachusetts?
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
wrong place

[ 13.01.2010, 06:12: Message edited by: Kanye West ]
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
the snow's pretty manageable over here, yuh. what is not manageable is that there are HOLES IN MY WELLIES. but im not going out like those chumps slip- sliding away down hills and dales, no way. i will take wet feet over a bruised coccyx, yes sir. but still, were you looking for all the bullshit? its over here, i have it.

hey benway where is the link to your hangover spotify playlist? i am not hungover, but i am rattled and discombob and all kinds of wrong- headed so i need the healing power of music.

[ 13.01.2010, 08:51: Message edited by: dance margarita ]
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
also, my boiler isnt even fucked and i still havent had an actual hot bath for a week; the landlord doesnt like switching it on for longer than about two milliseconds a day and is obviously a stranger to the concept of lagging. so its a kettle for my hair and a lick and a promise for the rest of me. im sure im not as stank as i feel, but i feel pretty stank. and i have wet feet. BULLSHIT! UNCOMMON BULLSHIT!

[ 13.01.2010, 08:54: Message edited by: dance margarita ]
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dance margarita:
hey benway where is the link to your hangover spotify playlist?

http://open.spotify.com/user/benway3000/playlist/2mHTJUaN7F3pnoGcBzjTc6
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
cheers ears.
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
jesus this playlist really is exactly like having a hangover, except without the 'having an actual hangover' part. well done, lads.

eta: i mean that in a good way. its a good hangover. one of those ones where you want to go window- shopping, eat loads of really complex sandwiches and then watch the collected works of michel gondry on dvd whilst wearing unnecessarily cosy socks.

[ 13.01.2010, 09:45: Message edited by: dance margarita ]
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
it's a journey through panic, pain, depression, nausea, discomfort, a throbbing pitiful heart, then a moment of premature optimism when you 'give in' and stop fighting it, then a spangly fitful half-sleep as the painkillers kick in, a disturbing and submissive dreamscape of memories colliding across timelines that never existed, then a feeling of slight rebirth, a new interest in the human world as you look at it through new eyes, then relief and a re-embracing of the self, then going too far the other way and viewing the world with slightly rose tinted specs, then finally, getting your shit together and leaving the flat to go out and do it again.

[ 13.01.2010, 09:51: Message edited by: Kanye West ]
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
oh no, my version doesnt have any of the bad bits at the beginning. its a full- on dizzy sunny spangle of a hangover, the kind where youre standing in a shop and the dude's waiting for you to pay but you cant get your head round the concept of coins or basic arithmetic but thats okay because hes not in a hurry and neither are you and actually hes kind of cute anyway and youre having a little moment the two of you, laughing about it all. 'coins! so confusing! heads gone wrong! you know what its like!' youve got a bagel in your handbag and the sun's shining and you dont remember much about the night before but noone gave you the stinkeye in the morning so thats no enormobiggie. youll check your mobile sent messages at some point but the idea's not looming. later you might call a special someone and get some lovin, but first of all there are newspapers to be read, fat- laden yiddish foodstuffs to be eaten, and a world of adventures to be, kind of, thought about a bit tangentially.

full disclosure: i didnt have that hangover much after 1999. im dealing in the kind of hangover a girl can safely get nostalgic about.

[ 13.01.2010, 10:08: Message edited by: dance margarita ]
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
actually i got diverted by the ride track and am now listening to going blank again so that might be why ive just written the chipperest hangover in the world ever. fucking hell, ride were good werent they.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
that track especially is fucking tip top.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
I think that the first few tracks - ryoji ikeda, Gobil, and the Blur track all sum up the beginning quite well. The first one - ryoji ikeda - is actually supposed to be the hangover before you've opened your eyes, and are still in bed, going through a systems test, discovering multiple problems.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
the ride track is a kind of self-pitying moment or pain, tinged with a resolution to try and beat it.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
The Nicorette® Inhalator looks like some sort of gynaecalogical instrument. It's unnerving.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
the playlist is designed for a fairly severe hangover, I'd say a 7 or above on the scale of 10, where 10 is alcohol poisoning and long term brain damage, and one is a moment of slight tiredness the next morning that you don't even register as a hangover.
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
maybe i should do a playlist for a hangover thats only like, a 4 or a 5. some beta band, a bit of melanie, you know. right, i now have to leave the internet to buy a complex sandwich and some ride records and find shop- boys to not make proper eye- contact with.

[ 13.01.2010, 10:17: Message edited by: dance margarita ]
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
I went through a phase of listening to heavy metal on a hangover. Get up, fell like crap, blast yourself with some Pantera or some Sepultura. Blow that hangover right out of your brain. Bit of Ministry, maybe. If you're really feeling up to it something from Demanufacture. Used to work quite well.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
that's fine as long as you're still slightly drunk, but if you feel like there's somebody drilling into your brain through your eyeball while punching the interior of your stomach via your mouth and throat, then surely sepultura is not going to help.
 
Posted by Hades (Member # 57) on :
 
It took me 5 hours to get to work this morning. including getting stuck trying to go up a hill, getting suck again which i had to diog my car out of (took about 30 mins) and haveing to double back on myself 40 mins to find another route.

On top of which my boss blamed ME for being late. Git.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
that's fine as long as you're still slightly drunk, but if you feel like there's somebody drilling into your brain through your eyeball while punching the interior of your stomach via your mouth and throat, then surely sepultura is not going to help.

Sounds like more of a Schubert moment.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
that's fine as long as you're still slightly drunk, but if you feel like there's somebody drilling into your brain through your eyeball while punching the interior of your stomach via your mouth and throat, then surely sepultura is not going to help.

No. Well. That's what Enya's for, I guess. Lovely warm Enya.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
Eno and Vangelis take care of it in the hangover playlist.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
I wonder what it would be like living with Enya. Would it be one endless, pillow of tranquility, or would she be like, always drunk, throwing empty cans of Stella at the telly and making wildly paranoid accusations of infidelity with increasingly unlikely people? Yelling at you for being an uncaring wanker and beating you with her fists, and then begging you to stay, telling you she can change.

[ 13.01.2010, 10:48: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
she's minted, so I'm sure it would be alright.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
That's true. Rich musicians must be incredibly easy people to live with.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
whenever they're getting on your nerves, just think of all that money.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Enya would whisper semi-audiable disparaging remarks about you each time you left the room. You'd wonder if you'd actually heard her speak, or if a light breeze had just skimmed past the window. After a few months, you'd be left in a constant state of paranoia and self-doubt.

[ 13.01.2010, 10:58: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Enya would whisper semi-audiable disparaging remarks about you each time you left the room. You'd wonder if you'd actually heard her speak, or if a light breeze had just skimmed past the window. After a few months, you'd be left in a constant state of paranoia and self-doubt.

Yeah, that sounds exactly right. Also when her sisters came round they'd speak really fast in Irish, look at you, then both burst out laughing.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
and you can just close your eyes and think about scrooge mcduck diving into his pile of golden trinkets.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
Haven't had a mail service for over a week now. Council aren't picking up the rubbish.

I really must go and take a photo of the local recycling skip place (it's in the leisure centre car park). The tins section is a very large wire mesh cage with a couple of little holes which you put your empty tins into. The cage was full very soon after New Year's Day.

Every time I go down there now (about once a week, I suppose) the pile of tins has grown larger and larger and the official cage will soon be completely buried if the council don't make an almighty effort to overcome their fear of an inch of slush and bravely battle their way across the car park. A bit like the entire population of the town already has done in order to make the mountain of tins in the first place.

It's starting to look like some kind of Concerned For The Planet tribute to the Princess Diana flower tribute.

 -

I've got to go and stick a couple of those shiny purple helium balloons on it. That would make it into a work of art.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
All clear now here after the nights rain.

Just found out that I got the job I've been going for over the last couple of months and I start on 15th Feb. Hooray.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Brilliant news fella! Congratulations!
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Part of my role is going to involve marketing which I know nothing about so I'm going to be trying to steal your knowledge and claiming it as my own.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cherry In Hove:
Part of my role is going to involve marketing which I know nothing about so I'm going to be trying to steal your knowledge and claiming it as my own.

Well, good luck with that. I fear it'll be the hardcore stuff that I currently know nothing about. I was accepted onto my PGDip Course yesterday and am now in a state of blind terror about the idea that I'm way too fucking thick to succeed at it. Already it feels like a horrible, horrible mistake.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Of course you can do it. And if you can't, you can just get Octavia to do the work for you and palm it off as your own.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
That was my plan to begin with, but when I was going through the assessment test she kept saying "Wow, I don't know any of this stuff".
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
Fonzie eyyyy! to you Cherry.

I've been putting off signing the official offer letter for my new permanent job here for approximately 6 weeks now, as the move will be a bit of a wrench (at least money-wise). I'm resolved to do it today.
 
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
 
Well done new job/course people!

I am trying to apply for some £££ to go to a conference in Anaheim, California (where Disney World is! ooooOOOOooooh! [Frown] ). Can anybody thing of things to say about the benefit this will have for me and my institution, this country and the host country. 800 characters each plz.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
awesome
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
N'Ice work cherry!
 
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
 
Bloody hell, when did everybody come back?
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Alright, Scrawny?
 
Posted by Doctor Agamemnon When (Member # 189) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by scrawny:
Bloody hell, when did everybody come back?

I came back today.

Soon, my new employers will find out that this is one site they haven't yet blocked. Until then...
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Are you going to go through the site and make a post on every thread that's been created since you left? I think you should.
 
Posted by Doctor Agamemnon When (Member # 189) on :
 
Ooh, I don't think I'll have time for that, but thanks for your support.
 
Posted by Hades (Member # 57) on :
 
Back to snow, it started again yesterday.
I shouted "Piss off!!!!" at the sky and it seems to have gone again today so thats good.

You can all thank me with money.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
It's been snowing in Brighton for the last two hours quite heavily. It better not settle or I shall be off to kick some snow in the face.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Snowing here too but not heavy enough to settle. The ground is far too wet.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
it's ALWAYS snowing here, baby, the girls is wearing they itty bitty swimsuits, the bass is droppin lo - lo's hard and all my boys be partying wid that big booty shit. My smoke an drink is ON, who wants a minute in my whip?
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I uhh. Uh. What?
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
pimps up hos down
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
Umm. About Three thirty.
 
Posted by Kanye West (Member # 837) on :
 
cheers.
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
fo'shizzle
 
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
 
I just spent a whopping £24 on a new graphics card. For that sort of price I fully expect it to be the best graphics card that anyone has ever ever used.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kanye West:
but once you're a manager you're basically a politician, and at the moment I can kind of keep out of most of the shit, and just zone out when I'm in meetings until somebody says my name, and then I have to choose between saying 'yes' or 'no' or 'sorry i wasn't listening'.

I had a great moment like this a couple of weeks ago, when I was thinking about Batman during a conference call I was supposed to be leading. Someone said "What do you think, Thorn" and I hadn't been listening so I said "Yes, I think it's fantastic. Really great," and it turned out that we were talking about an employee who had died.

Reading Benway's post here, I think my problem was that I over-committed. His basic options would have kept safe from error.

[ 28.08.2017, 05:51: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
 
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
 
^^ Rookie.
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
Question is, did you admit you hadn't been listening or just stick to your guns, brass it out and hope that instead of looks of horror you were met with sage nods and people muttering "thank God someone had the balls to say it..."
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
quote:
I had a great moment like this a couple of weeks ago, when I was thinking about Batman during a conference call I was supposed to be leading. Someone said "What do you think, Thorn" and I hadn't been listening so I said "Yes, I think it's fantastic. Really great," and it turned out that we were talking about an employee who had died.
This. This is exactly what I have missed the last 5 years or so. It's been open not even a day and I've already got my morning belly laugh
 


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