Obviously, a state of the boards speech right now would be a soliloquy to an empty theatre. But wouldn't it be nice if people turned up and logged on, and posted something to mark the tenth anniversary of the community that took over so much of the lives of so many people, for so long.
Even if it's just to say thanks Darryn, and Damon's Off, and "Soph", and Seethru.
times a-changin': post-9/11 movie brought a new, "darker" rorschach than the cartoon original Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
That's an oddly timely post right there Kovacs. Back in the day there were many evenings I found myself home alone, a touch tipsy, embracing the TMO community. I don't often check the boards these days and I almost never have an evening to myself where I might get off with the Internet but whadayaknow, tonight I'm checking the boards and home alone. And the Seemo Project is 10. And you're spelling your name differently. And I'm a tiny bit spooked.
But still… glasses charged, eyes misty, one, two, three: to Darryn!
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
This is the bit where Uber Amy asks me what I'm wearing.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
To "Soph"!
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Since you don't ask, old jeans, covered in varnish. Oh yeah, I've been building a bin store...ladies.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
x
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Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
Look a newb !
Has it really been a decade in the sun since See Thru ?
Top stuff really, perhaps we should have a run down like on Channel Four/BBC 3 of the high points and the low points of what's gone on here in the last 10 years.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
I've been reading it all back. It makes me smile.
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Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Also there are some great jokes about anal bumming.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Some of that shit really does need to be replaced with an x to feel properly authentic.
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Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by kovax: But wouldn't it be nice if people turned up and logged on, and posted something to mark the tenth anniversary of the community that took over so much of the lives of so many people, for so long.
TMO didn't so much take over my life as wind up completely defining it. That 'for so long' makes it sound as though the community's impact on people is fading, and while that may be true for many people who probably rarely give it a second thought... I'm never going to escape the fact that I got my wife and two children off of TMO. Its impact on my life has been massive and direct.
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
You make it sound as though there was some sort of spermatozoic whip-round. Fun though that might possibly have been, I hold you solely responsible for the currently occupied state of my belly.
I still love TMO. I never felt I was up to the mark with the standard of writing or arguing - kovacs whupped me with one hand behind his back on too many occasions for that - but it's been here for eight years of my life now and I wish there was more of it.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Hey TMO. Sorry to hear about your illness. Hope you're better soon.
Love, Misc.
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
I still love TMO but I'm not a pre-novemberist (I think I joined about 6 months after, although I was going to Seethru pretty much from th start).
I still check in every day or so and it's sad to see the "No new posts today" message. Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
That's a point. I'm not a pre-Novemberist either, and have been here even less time than Cherry in Hove.
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
Alright?
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
I joined (Seethru) around the same sort of time as Thorn and Cherry, and fish I think. Not sure when that was - I'm pretty sure it was after the whole 9-11 thing, but not much after... It's hard to work out, I remember a while after the event, reading through the Seethru thread of 9-11 as it happened, it was promoted to the first page of Seethru I think, but I don't think I was a member then. I didn't join up straight away anyhow, I kind of visited Seethru quite a few times and then found the bulletin board, and then started reading that, before, heart pounding, I registered and made my first weak post. What an amazing thrill it was to have someone respond to it! What a total virgin n00bie I was back then...
TMO started about Feb/March 2002? So if that's right I wasn't even on Seethru for for a year before it all went tits up and the mass migration to TMO happened.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Originally posted by Darryn.R: Top stuff really, perhaps we should have a run down like on Channel Four/BBC 3 of the high points and the low points of what's gone on here in the last 10 years.
The best thing that ever happened on TMO was BOBO!
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
Yeah lol, how did that go again? BOBO NOT LIKE MUMMY'S BOYFRIEND
How we laughed.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
NO WALPH! BOBO NOT WANT TOUCH YOU THERE!
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Memories from the Image Archive 2002-2010: Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by Black Mask: The best thing that ever happened on TMO was BOBO!
The great thing about that was that it was dropped just at the right time. Just before it got stale.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: Memories from the Image Archive 2002-2010:
Christ. I just found the picture of my naked ass. I can't believe I ever posted that.
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
So, Harlequin/Steelgate. Was he actually a homeless guy or was he just someone pretending to be?
Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
Ten years huh...
Anyone got that picture where Thorn seems to be a ventriloquist's dummy? That always made me chuckle.
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: Christ. I just found the picture of my naked ass. I can't believe I ever posted that.
Has anyone got the phooed version with the kitten coming out of it?
ET lol - just found it.
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Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
Thanks for the warning that the image archive still contains Thorn's backside. It makes it easier for me to avoid spending time browsing.
Still, it's been an interesting journey over the span of a decade. For me at least. Less so for the rest of you who have probably spent at least the last nine and a half years wondering when I'd fuck off already.
Happy birthday seemo.
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
Ten years ago, huh? *applies anti-wrinkle cream to monitor*
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
I made that!
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
Some of those images make me laugh despite not knowing what they're about. I had to stop looking at them at work due to their NSFW-eque lucky dip effect.
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
Ahh Team O. How I've missed that stifled work laugh that makes me feel my eyes are about to come out, and which this thread has re-kindled.
Is it too late for a baby meat?
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
A baby meat would be fucking terrible. Everyone with babies would be sort of annoyed that their baby wasn't get enough kudos for being the cutest/ cleverest/ funniest/ most personable and everyone without babies would resent the baby people for being a bunch of hateful c**ts obsessed with their stupid fucking babies and getting annoyed with parents trying to out do each other with tales of either how great their baby is or how hard they've fucking got it because their baby is 'a nightmare'. It'd be awful. Nothing worse than other people and their stupid, ugly babies.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
Like having a 'spouse meet' where you bring a spouse along and shove them out in front of you, beaming with pride at how fucking clever you are for getting a spouse.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
I only suggested it because London did ages ago, and she's still cool to me.
Anyway, it would be fine as mine's obviously going to win.
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
Also, some of us have older children now anyway. Posted by Carter (Member # 426) on :
"When you comin home, son?" "I don't know when. We'll get together then. You know we'll have a good time then."
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
He'd grown up just like me My boy was just like me
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
I was playing that on the guitar and singing it to Amelie the other day. I then went on to play Xbox for 4 hours straight while she sat looking sad in the corner.
Posted by Carter (Member # 426) on :
A corner? Luxury! We grew up in't lighthouse.
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: Everyone with babies would be sort of annoyed that their baby wasn't get enough kudos for being the... cleverest
Yours wouldn't win - it's currently trying to unlock the washing machine with my fob from work. Stupid baby.
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
My competition entry is currently in Norway with the [gravelly voice]Commando Helicopter Force[/gravelly voice], having moved on from washing machines - though only as far as Sea Kings, which I understand aren't really that much different. I expect he'd win the Best Baby prize anyway.
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
I'm not sure mine is going to do very well in the competition. I'll read "lullabyhullaballoo" to her and then set her out with all her books in front of her and say "Which shall we read now" and she'll choose the same one. Again. and again. and again.
I suspect I can probably recite the book from memory now.
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
quote:Originally posted by Cherry In Hove: ..."Which shall we read now" and she'll choose the same one. Again. and again. and again.
I suspect I can probably recite the book from memory now.
Nightmare. And it doesn't seem to stop either, not in our house. I've got a 13-year-old who only reads Harry Potter. I mean, he does do other things in his life, but when it comes to reading, he's just permanently got a Harry Potter book on the go. I've tried suggesting other stuff and given him copies of things - not heavy stuff, just thrillers and adventure stuff and that - but they just end up back on the bookshelf a couple of days later.
Even worse, 'er indoors listens to fucking Harry Potter. Stephen Fry droning on and on. It just goes on forever and ever. I really liked the books when I read them. Once. And then read something else. It scares me that people can get stuck in a loop with one writer, or one pop group, or one computer game. Did you read about that woman the other day who neglected her children and left her dog to die because she was playing on one of those "Farmville" kind of alternative reality things for like 22 hours a day. I think reading Harry Potter non-stop is just one step away from that, and compulsive "lullabyhullaballoo" listening is pretty much guaranteed fruitcake, let's face it.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
I saw a toddler who looked remarkably like Jonesy yesterday in Islington Giraffe. He seemed to be making hand gestures at Sam. Maybe the offspring are meeting up without us?
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
quote:Originally posted by dang65: It scares me that people can get stuck in a loop with one writer, or one pop group, or one computer game. Did you read about that woman the other day who neglected her children and left her dog to die because she was playing on one of those "Farmville" kind of alternative reality things for like 22 hours a day. I think reading Harry Potter non-stop is just one step away from that[...]
Yeah. It's like those people should get out of the house and do something for crissake. If only there were some place they could go.
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
I'd also like to suggest that babymeat be held in southern California, because it's such a pain to travel with kids.
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
Ten years? Jesus. The internet is old. I suspect I was only around on TMO for about six of them, though, so that doesn't really count.
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
Oh and I can't do a baby meat as I am barren. Nemmind, eh?
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
Is Carter standing on a box in that picture?
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
Is Mikee's teeshirt SFW?
Don't they look young.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
quote:Originally posted by H1ppychick:
Don't they look young.
Christ. Don't. - I have fucking epic old face. Got marked around 24 recently which I was pleased about but gads no.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
Hey man, at least you're not going grey and spending most of your time thinking about mortgages and furniture aquisition
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
Don't you complete in two days? I would have thought that your time thinking about mortgages should be over by now or else you're really leaving it a bit late.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
There are many things I like to spend time thinking about, long after I've actually finished doing them.
Though in the case of mortgages, there are some things to consider. At the moment we've just taken over the 60% share that Reema had previously, but one thing we're thinking of doing is buying the other 40%. It makes sense to do it now while the house market is still in a bit of a slump, and since we wouldn't be paying additional rent to the housing association, it would actually work out cheaper each month than just having the share. But this is all very boring of course.
Incidentally our new heaters were installed last night so barring a little bit of tuching up and making good around the new fixtures, the flat is actually finished and we can concentrate on filling it up with all our shit.
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
Nice. So are you actually moving in now or waiting until completion before that?
It's good that you've got so much done so early as otherwise you just sit there thinking "I should really get that done" but then a week goes by and you don't do it and you think "Do I really need shelves? I'm sure that my CDs are fine in boxes and suitcases in the bedroom"
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
We moved in Sunday. I was reluctant to move in before the completion date, but the new bed was being delivered at about 7am on Monday so we would have been silly not to stay there, and to be honest we were both finding it pretty difficult staying with my parents so we wanted to get out as soon as we could. Now we've got a bed set up it's starting to feel a bit more like a home.
Annoyingly the screws for securing the electrical connection for the cooker to the wall have been 'misplaced' (read - thrown away) meaning we need to get a couple of screws before we can do any cooking. Still waiting on moving in a fair chunk of our furniture and belongings. We're still without TV, and the sofa isn't being delivered for weeks (though we can use one of the old nasty leather ones in the meantime), but it's all starting to fall together.
We're hoping that by the weekend we'll be more or less done and we can actually think about just, like, spending relaxation time in the flat. I'm sure the cat would appreciate us finishing as soon as possible.
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
Cooking and TV and stuff doesn't really matter, as long as you've got the computer set up and an internet connection and Reema goes to bed early and doesn't just suddenly come out of the bedroom quietly without warning, you're all good.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
No internet or telephones set up at the moment either. The local exchange which is about a mile away is being upgraded at the moment by BT for fibre, meaning in about a month or so we'll be able to get 20mb+
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
I could have got up to 50MB but just went for the 10MB and don't have any problem with streaming porn, so perhaps you don't need to get a pipe that fat?
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
I have very specific requirements
Posted by Keef (Member # 27) on :
quote:Originally posted by squeegy: Ten years huh...
Anyone got that picture where Thorn seems to be a ventriloquist's dummy? That always made me chuckle.
Voila.
I'm not a pre-novemberist either. Like others I read SeeThru pretty much from the start but didn't join the forum until around 9-11. Still pop in every few weeks to see what's being said.
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
That is one unhealthy-looking dummy.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
You described me as magnetically attractive that night, so don't pretend that photo doesn't get you all fired up.
Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
Marvelous
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
There's another one, from the same photo-shoot which had better lighting - that was the one that kept getting re-used...
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Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
I really do look like a fucking retard in that photo. Fortunately the days of me looking like a total brainless spastic in photos are long gone.
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Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
Still. At least it's not hereditary.
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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
At least the spots have cleared up, eh?
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
Yes - apparently there are health-related upsides when you stop running five hangovers a week.
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
It was Black Mask who suggested the baby meet, honest. In East Dulwich no less.
I can't believe Ringo is going on about mortgages! In my head he'll always be 18.
*adjusts slanket*
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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
This is a fantastic photo. I can imagine it as a still from an Albanian movie about deserting Nazi soldiers on the Eastern front, trying to find an Allied unit to surrender to. They get hopelessly lost and hole up in a deserted village. They wake up one morning in a creaky old barn, confronted by this child cackling maniacally, the sound of scythes being sharpened in the near-distance, the terrified bleating of goats and claustrophobic cello music.
Posted by Brian Munich (Member # 2342) on :
10 years old. Fark. Where is Ben and Rick? And Raz? Why was Kovacs not Terrier for the anniversary posting? Who is Benway now? Or where is Benway? I am (or was) 69Comeback Elvis, but I lost my password. I was going to email D and ask for it back but, chuh, y'know. I didn't. Thank you for all the lovely fun with words and the feeling of knowing. Thank you D. Thank you Mrs D. I am currently at a conference. Ha. Life. Still shit.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Elvis my arse.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
For the record, I don't check here that often; I haven't been waiting around for months, silenty watching in case Elvis posts. Honest.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
The conference bit, I believe that.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
I imagine it's a conference about how to sell mortgages to Ringo. Hopefully it's away from home and you get some action Brian. For all of us.
Posted by Brian Munich (Member # 2342) on :
How do I prove I'm Elvis? You came to my house once. With Benway. We drank gin.
In other queries: how do you find the old posts. I clicked on Kovax link and now I want to read Moider TMO Wrote. How do I do that? How? Pls hlpz.
In other news: my son is on forums now. Or Facebook. Which is like TMO without the meeting strangers.
Posted by Brian Munich (Member # 2342) on :
I wish it was about mortgages. I wish I got some action. I wish for all of you. It's about bollocks and I'm sat in my room with some cooling chips and a half eaten deadline.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Yes, I don't often eat gin. Only the king would know such a detail. Love you Elvis.
Posted by Brian Munich (Member # 2342) on :
Love you too. Now how do I read Moider etc.?
Look! Post vajazzle (pojazzle?) Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
or maybe here Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
I don't think either of those archives have the TMO Moider thread - I think it died in a crash long, long ago. It may be not be that much of a loss - there have probably been a lot better threads in the seven or eight years since. If Elvis is particularly interested in re-living his past genius maybe his email 'sent' box is a better place to start.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
Here's what Kovacs had to say about the Moider TMO Wrote, back in 2004:
quote:Yeah we should all dream of having a newbie who can inspire the boards to a "TMOPanto". For the sake of the little Jesus, what low ideals you have! Maybe you also fondly hope that this newbie will reinvigorate the "From Dusk Til Dawn" marathon of embarrassment, where the community's less-talented writers pretended to be interacting in a pub, or the TMO Murder thread, which was like listening to a bunch of no-hopers from a "Find Your Prose Voice" creative workshop playing Cluedo on the radio.
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
Hello Elvis.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
When I read through the archives after searching for my own name, a single malt in one hand, a penis approaching its fifth decade (still sturdy ((sometimes))) in the other, I can't help but wonder how I ever found the time to churn out so much...stuff. I never really did respond to everything but by Jove I'd have completed a few jigsaws had I been born twenty years earlier.
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
I had absolutely no idea till today that Konnie Huq and Charlie Brooker are actually a married couple in real life.
Did you know that?
In days gone by I'd have come to TMO for such information, along with an enthusiastically off-colour discussion about which other celebrities should be married, which ones should be killed, and which ones should just be bummed with a cabbage.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
Yeah, where did we all find the time to write all that guff that we wrote.
[ 14.10.2010, 04:29: Message edited by: mart ]
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by dang65: I had absolutely no idea till today that Konnie Huq and Charlie Brooker are actually a married couple in real life.
I mentioned their relationshup on a TMO thread a few week-months ago, but Benway said "Who cares?", so that was the end of that. I'm surprised and a little disappointed that you missed it though, dang.
ETA: *Here you go. I found the link for you, so you can catch up. Apparently Benway didn't even put a question mark at the end of his "who cares" - presumably in order to show just how little he cared about the Brooker-Huq relationship.
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Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
Gosh, so you did. My apologies to TMO's gossip solutions team.
Posted by Brian Munich (Member # 2342) on :
Hello Louche.
Ahh, thanks for the link Thorn. I wish my email sent box were full of cleverness. It is, of course, full of balls. Talking of which, did I tell you I met a porn actor the other day? A genuine one. Very bizarre. She was all about ponies and giggles and happy bubbles. But when she left a leery chap dripped across our table and explained the career choice. Googled it. He was right. Any hole's a goal is her strap line. Imagine having a strap line. Not that one, obvy. Not that I'm judging. Doesn't work for men: you would have to play with a very small football to score in the jappy. My point is, she wasn't what I expected an adult film actor to be, until someone pointed it out and then I thought 'oh yeah, she did kinda talk about ponies a lot'. Like Jordan, you see. I wonder if many people in that line of work like to lose themselves in tweenage fantasy?
Posted by Samuelnorton (Member # 48) on :
Ten years eh? Who'd have thought.
Nobody's been here for two weeks anyway. Sad. Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
.
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Posted by fish (Member # 22) on :
Ten years ago hey? I blame See-thru for getting me fired from Sky News - the best thing that ever happened to my career!
Thanks See-thru/TMO!
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
Fish!
I remember years ago you said that you had some assignment where you basically had to go up to homeless people and ask them why they didn't get a job or something like that.
Did you ever do that and how did it turn out?
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
I've offered my opinion about why the forum is not as enjoyable as it was: it comes down in my view to an unhappy combination of claustrophobia - what you post is now taken as a personal slight by many people, rather than as the anything-goes textuality of earlier times - and anarchy, with so many stupid fake names and newcomers that nobody would ever open up as they did not long ago on the "do you want children" thread. At one point, for maybe six months, there was a happy medium between these points, where you could feel relaxed to both confide personal stories and express honest but negative opinion. For whatever reasons to do with virtual and real-life community, I feel that balance evolved and then eroded.
Coupled with that, I think it may be inevitable that, with (say) ten topics raised every day on Life alone, after a year you run out of things to discuss. People starting threads on topics that have already been done to death are, unsurprisingly, ignored, patronised or slighted. If you sat in All Bar One from 9-5 every day with basically the same group of people, I think you might face this situation a lot earlier in the game - it's all been done, so what's left but dismal threads about "should I use drugs again", "I'm happy with my life, wat about u", "list your favourite sandwich fillings" and so on. The "how do we revive the forum" thread is becoming a thriving subgenre of its own.
I know I am regarded as someone who just loves to hate and hurt, and I am not even attempting to offer solutions here. However, I think the feeling of pointlessness around the boards comes down to burn-out from being with the same people a lot of the time for a long time, and that everything else - the witless threads, the sometimes desperate attempts at novelty, the dressing-up and introspection - stems from that.
Knock me if you like, I'm entirely used to it; but I am at least bothering to identify what I think the actual problem is.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
[Originally posted by Kovacs 13 December 2001 09:28 AM]
[ 16.11.2010, 09:19: Message edited by: ben ]
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
tl;dr
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
Hey Mart. Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
Ben, did that copy of The Torture Memos ever turn up?
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
It did - I'm sorry I never thanked you. Thanks. I read the introduction and several of the documents - unfortunately I'd just read Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine so was a bit tortured out.
Came to the conclusion last year that I made a pretty bad judgement call on the Iraq War - as anyone who read any of my posts from or after that period might remember.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
I think you've probably read more of it than anyone else in the country. Not one of our bigger sucesses.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
Well worth doing, though - particularly as large parts of the media in this country explicitly support torture.
Christ that's a depressing thought. Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: Well worth doing, though - particularly as large parts of the media in this country explicitly support torture.
Christ that's a depressing thought.
We've done a 'better' torture book since then. Letters To My Torturer. The author is a pretty nice bloke. You get a phone call from him and he's like "How's it going?" and you're like, well my bike got a puncture on the way in, and my boss is asking me for some stuff that I've forgotten to do, and it's a pretty shitty day, but you can't really say that to someone who was tortured for seven years. But, on the flipside, if you say "yeah, I'm having a really good day" it sound like you're gloating. So I tend to just hang up.
Also, in some ways the author reminds me of Mart. An Iranian Mart. So once you make this connection, it reads like someone's forcing Mart to bark like a dog, eat his own faeces, drink bleach etc etc, which makes it even harder to stomach.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
'someone' = an Iranian Paul McKenna?
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
I've done two of those three things, but, you know, mustn't grumble.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
I remember that meat.
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
Sounds like this guy is playing up the torture a bit.
"boohoo, they made me bark like a dog"
My daughter likes me to bark like a dog, she finds it funny. You don't find me running off to Amnesty International in the hopes of getting a bestseller.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
No, no, I honestly didn't mind. It wasn't that bad at all.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
As for the rest, gargling with Dettol really helps.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by Cherry In Hove: You don't find me running off to Amnesty International in the hopes of getting a bestseller.
If the sales of this book were anything to go by, your hopes would be ill-founded.
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Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
In other dog-related publishing news, How To Teach Quantum Physics to Your Dog is doing absolute gangbusters.
It seems that the British public prefers dogs to torture. As marketing manager, it's my job to spot these kinds of trends, even if - like this one - they seem counter-intuitive.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
Do Llamas Fall In Love, on the other hand is falling somewhere between the two. So, if I were to rate things the Britons like, it would go.
1. Dogs 2. Llamas 3. Torture
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
My girlfriend brought a Maeve Binchy novel home from work for me the other day, saying, "here, I thought you'd like this".
It was actually quite good.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
Fuck Maeve Binchy.
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
quote:Originally posted by Cherry In Hove: You don't find me running off to Amnesty International in the hopes of getting a bestseller.
If the sales of this book were anything to go by, your hopes would be ill-founded.
Well, from your analysis it sounds like the British public like their books a bit more playful than straight torture, so perhaps a book about a 30 something white male playing games with his daughter would be something that would become a Christmas bestseller.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
What sort of games?
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Can you lot keep the noise down a bit, yeah?
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
The Saw series proves that the British public have a hearty appetite for gruelling depictions of torture. If we add the thirtysome white male, his daughter, and set it in Iran... ta-daa! - mass entertainment with a social conscience. In 3D.
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
quote:Originally posted by mart: What sort of games?
Building towers, knocking down towers. Hiding under a blanket then pulling it off and saying "Boo!", making a wolf and a rat puppet play the piano. All sorts of stuff that I think would be up there with the latest Dan Brown novel for excitement.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
I remember that meat.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: The Saw series proves that the British public have a hearty appetite for gruelling depictions of torture. If we add the thirtysome white male, his daughter, and set it in Iran... ta-daa! - mass entertainment with a social conscience. In 3D.
Like one of them Magic Eye books from the nineties? This might save my job!
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
By the way, I'm living in Stratford-upon-Avon for the moment, if anyone's interested.
Fun times so far. It has a really terrific cheese shop.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
Fuck Stratford-Upon-Avon.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
It's a screaming hell-hole, no different to the marketplace in Black Hawk Down, after everything kicks off.
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Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
Except with more Shakespeare related gift shops.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
I just did an image search for 'Stratford Upon Avon Nights':
How freakin' bored do the guys look in this picture?
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
I think that's me right at the back. Drinking bleach.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
I found Black Hawk Down quite a queasy experience - you know, heroic white dudes machine-gunning lots of nasty black men. It had a real underside-of-ballsack kind of odour to it.
Saw III was on a few weeks back and I enjoyed that a lot more then BHD. Especially the scene with the liquidised pigs, which strongly resembled the photo above.
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Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
That pic is actually of the inside of an RSC battlecopter moments before it was shot down and crahsed near the rowing boats on the river. We spent all that night holed up at the Brass Rubbing Centre before the verger from Holy Trinity Church came to our rescue, guiding us back to the river bank. We made our getaway using the hand-cranked chain ferry to cross the river and reach the safety of the Butterfly Farm on the opposite bank, just past the visitor centre. We had to live on little dishes of syrupy water until fresh supplies of tea and jam scones were flown in.
Crazy times.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
^Thorn Davis likes this post
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
lol - vivid.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: Came to the conclusion last year that I made a pretty bad judgement call on the Iraq War - as anyone who read any of my posts from or after that period might remember.
I predicted this U-Turn back in 2008
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: After the Tories win the next election Ben will turn up in an Al Queada video, trussed up to a chair begging David Cameron to pull whatever strings it takes to get him out and declaring that anyone who supported this awful war is "shit-thick cattle".
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
So what shall we talk about today?
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
I think ben suggested "should I use drugs again", "I'm happy with my life, wat about u", or "list your favourite sandwich fillings"
To which I reply:
1 If you mean Night Nurse, then yes 2 Aside from the nagging doubt of inherent fail, then yes 3 Pret's christmas special
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
Speaking of sandwich fillings, I made my own chutney recently. Chilli and tomato chutney. I grew the chillis myself and everything.
It's alright.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Chicken, stuffing, bacon and chutney from The Baker's Oven.
7/10 Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
Hey Misc. 1 week, man.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
Had just a bowl of potato and onion soup for junch today. I recently tipped the scales at 15st6½ so need to row back from that shit.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ringo: Hey Misc. 1 week, man.
They aren't slipping it until Friday are they? I've heard talk of Euro slippage. I've got Wed-Fri off work next week, anyway.
:excite:
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
*shrug* I've no idea. My pre-order delivery esitmate is the 22nd to the 23rd with gamestore. I've got the week off from tuesday, just in case.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Excellent. Shopto have promised me a whopping £3 if they don't get it to me by release day.
I wonder if there'll be DLC. Also, can I wedge my Move controller between the sofa cushions and use it as a gear stick?
Considering buying a new wheel...
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Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
We still talking about food?
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
Sorry, computer games. Nothing important.
In other news, we've been having a good chuckle in the office today when one of my (male) colleagues came in proudly showing off his new ugg boots.
Nearly as embarassing as the time I went to school wearing boxer shorts over the top of my pants.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
Pants as in trousers, or pants as in pants? One would be more embarrassing than the other.
Lunch: gigantic burrito from Tortilla at Canary Wharf. As most of my lunches comprise something grim cobbled together from the remains of the fridge, my one office day per week represents really quite a thrilling range of gastronomic options. A smorgasbord, if you will.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: After the Tories win the next election Ben will turn up in an Al Queada video, trussed up to a chair begging David Cameron to pull whatever strings it takes to get him out and declaring that anyone who supported this awful war is "shit-thick cattle".
lol - I hadn't seen this before. I now feel even worse about my posting falling off! A lot of things had/have changed in my life (work, family, usual) and it really felt as though I'd lost whatever mojo I ever possessed. There were pleasures in coming back and just reading what everyone else was doing, but this always felt like the sort of place where you had to be a participant for it to really work.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
I described you as "world class funny" in that thread. How nice of me!
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
quote:Originally posted by herbs: Pants as in trousers, or pants as in pants? One would be more embarrassing than the other.
Pants as in underpants. I went to school wearing a pair of boxer shorts over a pair of underpants. There were no trousers involved.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
An easy mistake for a kid to make... but why the hell didn't your parents point out your error?
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
I once went swimming in a pair of white underpants, thinking they would be an adequate substitute for swimming trunks. Regrettable.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
I can only imagine they either thought it was absolutely hilarious, or that I would learn an important life lesson from the experience.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
I don't think I really fully understood the concept of 'boxer shorts' back at that age. I can't have been more than about six years old. I thought it meant they were the sort of shorts that boxers wore, and that everyone would be totally impressed by my awesome shorts.
They had Ghostbuster logos on.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ringo: I can only imagine they either thought it was absolutely hilarious, or that I would learn an important life lesson from the experience.
Fucking hell, man. That's really cold. It makes me angry because it reminds of the suite of photos my parents have of me stalking through the New Forest in green underpants, pretending to be Robin Hood.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
On my 30th birthday.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
Yeah, you really rely on your parents at that young age to give you sound guidance and I'd have to say they really let me down there. I think they may have queried my decision but obviously never really explained that boxer shorts were underwear not outerwear. Maybe they assumed I would know such things, but never considered that I wouldn't know if they had never told me in the first place. Either way, whether they thought my decision to go out dressed like that was a result of ignorance or some kind of eccentric flambouyance, the point is that they simply shouldn't have allowed me to go out of the house like that.
Anyway, if they wanted to teach me a lesson, it's certainly one well learned. You certainly wouldn't catch me coming to work wearing womens' footwear like my colleague.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
Do you still wear flambouyant Hawaiian shirts and use a gay amount of skincare products, Ringo?
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
Nah I'm pretty normal these days. I'm not sure what I was trying to say about myself back then. These days I'm usually wearing a polo shirt and a fleece. Good, dependable clothing that doesn't stand out or draw attention to itself.
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: the suite of photos my parents have of me stalking through the New Forest in green underpants, pretending to be Robin Hood.
I think these should be brought to light pro bono publico.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
I don't think so. Anyway, they only exist as slides, so unless you know someone with the special scanner attachment, there's no real way of getting them on the computer. Or you could project them onto the side of the houses of parliament, I guess.
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
I know someone with the special scanner attachment.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
I think you're forgetting about that thing that you did for me that now means I can have you sent to prison the moment you step out of line.
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Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
Let's just forget about the Robin Hood pictures.
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
I'm meeting up with Dr Benway tonight. Does anyone have any messages they would like me to pass onto him?
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
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Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
Hello TMO!
Happy 10th Anniversary!!!
I just read all 5 pages. Nice to see some people who don't check in.
Pretty sure I'm a Pre-Novemberist. Think I joined See-Thru in 2001. Ten years ago is a long time ago to remember. Although, I do know some of you on FB, which is nice. Nice to keep in touch. I miss TMO a lot...you guys are awesome!
Much love to all of you. <3
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Is this the moment to admit I am Infinite Jones?
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
And Teflon.
Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
Heh...Jonesy, I've met and hung out w/both you and Teffers. Can't fool anyone with that one. Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
quote:Originally posted by Amy: Heh...Jonesy, I've met and hung out w/both you and Teffers.
Ah, but never at the same time. Fat suit technology is something else these days.
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
I found out the other day that actors call that "skin character work". As in dressing up like a Teletubby or Bungle or a twat or something.
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
I should imagine the market for twat-costume rental is limited.
Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
quote:Originally posted by jonesy999:
quote:Originally posted by Amy: Heh...Jonesy, I've met and hung out w/both you and Teffers.
Ah, but never at the same time. Fat suit technology is something else these days.
Hmph...
You've got me there.
Posted by Bamba (Member # 330) on :
Moo.
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Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
Good stuff.
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
The weather has been nice recently.
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
Welcome back teemo. The parking page just wasn't the same. Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
What kind of fuck does that Bam Bam? One should replace such random gubbins with an 'x'.
Rage on.
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
*Breathes*
Normality resumes
Posted by omikin (Member # 37) on :
fuck.
ten years? i don't think i was ever a pre-novemberist but i was there fairly early doors. i think for some time i thought of thorn as a newbie, which should date things.
work internet restrictions combined with having more demanding jobs meant my interactions online tailed off pretty quickly, and as ben said, even though you enjoy reading the stuff you feel a bit remote from it unless you can regularly interact and participate.
still, seethru/tmo gave me some fantastic friendships and also some incredible nights (anyone remember the meat where pink was trying to score and the guy he was asking just kept saying "you want sex?").
i think it's also almost ten years since bandy swiped ben's (film) camera, nipped to the bogs, and photographed his barse. unaware that this had happened, ben gave the film to d to get developed, and as had to explain that image...
also - who remembers when ben posted his cock to shut up gordon the gofer?
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
quote:Originally posted by omikin: also - who remembers when ben posted his cock to shut up gordon the gofer?
That's the thing about photos, I'm sure that one is out there somewhere, just waiting for the day ben decides to pursue public elected office.
Posted by My Name Is Joe (Member # 530) on :
10 years. Hmm, a lot has happened to me in those 10 years. Marriage. Spawn. Inability to drink effectively.
Nice to see people still look in here from time to time.
Hope everyone is happy.
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Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
lol only 3761 posts. Newbie.
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
I'm posting this simply to see how many posts I've got.
Posted by Octavia (Member # 398) on :
:-( I went through 3000 without noticing. I bet it was something really banal, like this one, too.
Posted by missgolightly (Member # 34) on :
Wow, it's taken me over 10 years to get up to 700 posts!
Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
Now I need to see how many posts I have. Hahahaha. Im a geek. Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
5,749.
5,750 I suppose now. That one about Astro's day wasn't bad.
Posted by schism (Member # 198) on :
I was searching for that old Seethru e-card of the woman with nice red nails giving the V-sign and the caption "Thank Fuck you're leaving" on the bottom and saw TMO... and clicked...
Last time I clicked here the site was gone and I grieved for it a little with a little tear in my eye and I had to go out for a smoke, before I broke down in the office... and now, Wow, great to see TMO back.
Thanks to all involved for some good laughs and thought provoking threads, and lots of trying not to laugh while people looked at me funny at work.
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