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Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Just listening to BBC london - what on earth is going on in London? Just seems to be so much confusion as to where the incident has happened?

What is it? A terrorist attack?
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
no idea - but Kings Cross has got something happening now...
 
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
 
A visitor from Rolls Royce just phoned me to complain about being asked to evacuate Stanmore station on his way into central London. I don't know what he expected me to do about it.

The Parisians must be furious that this didn't happen yesterday or the day before.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
The ubiquitous "power failure" is being blamed...
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
ah but is it an electrical power faliure, or a socio-economic power faliure
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Just heard that there are severe casualties at Kings Cross - they have a casualty area set up and there are seriously injured people.

This is fucking scary
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
it is, but so far the radio and the internet are the only one's talking, nothing on the television - except Frasier re-runs, Clifford's big Dog or something and Trisha...
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Now just heard that Emergency people wearing Chemical Kit are entering Aldgate Station - this is apparently standard saefty procedure.

There was an explosion at Kings Cross apparently on a train - its all very splintered information coming in, but it sounds like 2 seperate incidents.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
BBC
Tube warning after 'bang' heard

quote:
Emergency services are sent to London's Liverpool Street station after reports of an explosion.
Sky News
Blasts shut Tube Network
 -

quote:
Power surges have caused a number of blasts on London's Underground leaving several people injured.

The entire network has been shut down following explosions at Aldgate, Edgware Road, King's Cross, Old Street and Russell Square.



[ 07.07.2005, 05:01: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
I heard Edgware Road was similarly affected.

Definitely not a terrortastic cover-up, then?
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Tube is closed, roads around central London closed - someone on the radio just described everyone as 'black' - but I'm not sure what he's talking about. Anyone heard any of the bangs?
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Apparently a bus has exploded as well. No information as to where yet.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
It seems to be causing an explosion of TMO threads. This is the third one (and the biggest so far).
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Where did you hear about the bus?

I can't believe a power surge would happen like this - they have all sorts of protection in place for these faults - you don't just randomly overload the network with so much power it makes transformers explode.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
The bus was on skynews. A colleague accessed it. I can't get onto the website. All news websites have pretty much ground to a halt.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
It seems to be causing an explosion of TMO threads. This is the third one (and the biggest so far).

Best title, innit.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
According to reports a bus has exploded in central London just minutes after a number of blasts on London's Underground.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
ccording to reports a bus has exploded in central London just minutes after a number of blasts on London's Underground.

"I saw lots of people running up a road and then saw the top of a bus destroyed," one eyewitness told Sky News.


Sky News producer Bob Mills said he heard the loud explosion near Euston Station.

The entire Tube network has been shut down following the blasts at Aldgate, Edgware Road, King's Cross, Old Street and Russell Square.


From the Skynews web site
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Now I hear Russel Square has been closed off
 
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
 
The bus exploded in Russel Sq.

Martin was on the one behind it. Im going home now to administer brandy.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
 -
quote:
British Transport Police said the incident, reported at at 8.49am on the Metropolitan Line between Liverpool Street and Aldgate, was thought to have been caused by a collision between two trains, a power cut or a power cable exploding.

 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
The power grid have said that they have nothing to report in terms of surges that could have caused this...

TV is still shit
 
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
 
The bus exploded in Russel Sq.

Martin was on the one behind it. Im going home now to administer brandy.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
The BBC site's still saying it was a power surge, and none of the radio stations seem to be interupting their usual drivel to mention it. I can't get 5 Live though as I've only got an FM radio on my mobile.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Bradley Anderson told Sky News that he was involved in the Edgware Road incident on a Circle line train.

He said: "We just left Paddington station. About 15 seconds later there was some kind of explosion and we collided with another train.

"We were heading into the station when there was some kind of explosion or something. Everything went black and we collided into some kind of oncoming train. There was debris all over the trains. They evacuated us."


 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
I've just sms'd my sister to see if she is on Duty (Essex Fire Brigade control) - no doubt they will be on full alert.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Dang, go to BBC London - 94.9 I think
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Gotta love the dunkirk spirit of London:

quote:
From BBC news
"People didn't really know what was going on, they were just huffing and puffing and saying how annoying it was," she said.



 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Benny the Ball:
Dang, go to BBC London - 94.9 I think

Bit out of range round these parts. I'm in Macclesfield. There was a mention on Classic FM just now, but no one's said anything about a bus exploding, just the Tube power failure.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
Someone on the Barbelith thread reckons thirty dead on the Tavistock/Russell Square bus.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
BBC reporter on BBC London has reported seeing footage on a guys mobile of the carnage of the bus after the explosion.

No power surge now [Frown]
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Channel 4 say multiple explosions
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
More bombs found ?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Can we do a headcount? No lurking today.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Multiple explosions across London (I heard one, christ!) one in Marlybone just reported
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
If only we all had ID Cards, none of this would have happened.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
indeed - Indeed head count not ID cards.

[ 07.07.2005, 05:25: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
 
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
 
Guardian

quote:
10.20am update

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Many hurt in tube chaos

· Bomb on Underground, union says
· Witness saw 'bodies everywhere'
· Tube network shut down

Sarah Left and agencies
Thursday July 7, 2005

Many people were hurt today in a "major incident" on the London Underground as an apparent power surge caused at least two explosions, wounded commuters, and plunged London's transport network into chaos.
Union officials said their sources had told them there had been at least one explosive device on the Underground. A Sky News producer who was evacuated from Kings Cross and was walking towards Russell Square also reported seeing an explosion on a bus. He said the blast was caused by a bomb, and said people with "blood injuries" emerged from the bus. Scotland Yard could not immediately confirm the report.


Article continues

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British Transport police said several power surges had caused explosions across the network at Aldgate, Old Street, Kings Cross, Russell Square and Edgware Road. Emergency services crews attended wounded passengers outside Aldgate station, and there were reports of passengers covered in soot emerging from King's Cross. Travellers emerged from tunnels covered in blood.
Eyewitnesses reported "multiple casualties" at Liverpool Street. One witness who had been in a train at the time of the explosions reported seeing "bodies everywhere" in the carriages and limbs lying in on the floor. Emergency services reported several injuries. Scotland Yard declared the emergency a "major incident".

The incidents caused a complete shutdown of the London Underground system, which is thought to be unprecedented. LU confirmed the incidents had been caused by "something to do with the power supply".

A British Transport police spokesman said that two trains remain stuck in tunnels at Edgware Road, but it is not known if they have collided or if passengers remain onboard.

"It's difficult to know exactly what is going on at the moment," he said. "The initial report came from Liverpool Street, but there are incidents occurring across the network."

He said that officers have been sent into the network to assist with rescue operations.

"Officers are working at tunnel and platform level to help get people out and to help find out what has happened," he said.


Anyone who's in London today - take care... hope you're okay.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
3 buses now
 
Posted by Bandy (Member # 12) on :
 
Scrawny is in the middle of London and her phone isn't ringing...
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
'Phone network is understandably jammed at the moment.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
That'd better not be a joke.

fuck.

Strength to all those in London.

XXXX
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I'm in St James's, can hear sirens zooming all around outside.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Can only reiterate what Darryn says - be safe and be strong everyone. Thinking of you all
 
Posted by omikin (Member # 37) on :
 
god i hope everyone's okay.

this is awful.
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
I'm here, repeatedly hitting refresh on all the news sites and wondering just what the fuck is going on. Hope everyone's okay.
 
Posted by Tom Boy (Member # 765) on :
 
E-mailed NWOD and Uber, still awaiting responses, they the only people who's mail I got... Keep you posted
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
My mobiles locked out can't call, can't send texts.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
BBC Report one person killed according to eyewitnesses on bus explosion.
 
Posted by OJ (Member # 752) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
quote:
Originally posted by Benny the Ball:
Dang, go to BBC London - 94.9 I think

Bit out of range round these parts. I'm in Macclesfield. There was a mention on Classic FM just now, but no one's said anything about a bus exploding, just the Tube power failure.
You can listen to BBC London online here http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/ if you so wish. But you'll get as much info from FiveLive, Radio4 or BBC News 24.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
I've got the BBC live feed running now on multiscreen - They're talking to people on mobiles now.

Doesn't sound good.

[ 07.07.2005, 05:46: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
London Ambulance have implemented emergency system so only critical life threatening cases will have ambulances dispatched.

I think its time the truth was told - this is obviously a maliscous attack, and not a series of freak accidents.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
BBC now confirm 3 buses [Frown]
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
Another explosion near Tavistock Square? Anyone heard this?
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Witness says the 1st bus was a tourist bus not a London red if that helps

[ 07.07.2005, 05:50: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Mutters in my office about G8...
 
Posted by Modge (Member # 64) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bandy:
Scrawny is in the middle of London and her phone isn't ringing...

In case you still haven't got through, I was in London about half an hour ago and couldn't make any calls because of congestion/signal failure.

On my way home - I thankfully decided not to attempt a bus trip from London Bridge to Hammersmith - a women gleefully announced to me on the train "It's terrorists annoyed about the Olympics, isn't it exciting!" Umm...no.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Someone on ITV has said that this was a terrorist attack meant to cause maximum disruption, the plan seems to have been to get people off the tubes, guards down, onto buses and then strike there.
 
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
 
Fucking hell.

Do you remember that episode of Spooks where they thought London was under terrorist attack, but it was all a clever training ruse by their boss? I don't think our acting Head of Dept would have put in this much effort.

I don't like emailing all my mates who work in London to ask if they are ok (alive).
 
Posted by Bandy (Member # 12) on :
 
Scrawny safe in work thankfully after walking from tottenham court road to primrose hill.

Jesus. [Frown]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
Another explosion near Tavistock Square? Anyone heard this?

quote:
Paul Tripea, owner of the Russell Square Cafe, said people had rushed inside following the explosion.

"One of the security guards from a nearby hotel rushed in and said he saw the bus explode around Tavistock Square," said Mr Tripea.

"We have also heard that there is a suspect package in Russell Square."


 
Posted by Tom Boy (Member # 765) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vogon Poetess:

I don't like emailing all my mates who work in London to ask if they are ok (alive).

I understand this man, not alot of fun, like taking a register... clicking refresh with bated breath waiting for the next person to announce "Present."

[ 07.07.2005, 06:04: Message edited by: Tom Boy ]
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Glad to hear it Bandy
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Ech. Phones being down is maddening: I can't get through to my mates that moved to London Bridge 2 days ago.

So many conflicting reports though. Our office is weird at the moment. About a third are flapping and panicking, another batch are trying to figure out whether they have to go to a meeting in the City, still, and the rest seem almost oblivious.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Great news Andy. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
90 casualties at aldgate - fuck
 
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
Ech. Phones being down is maddening: I can't get through to my mates that moved to London Bridge 2 days ago.


Mobiles always fuck up at times like this. Try Email or work landline.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Just managed to get through to my sister. She went through Liverpool Street about 40 minutes beforehand. Thank fuck she's ok. can breathe now.
 
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
 
Apparently some of our staff at St Pancras witnessed one of the bus bombings - they're understandably freaked out.

Am trying to get radio via the internet but keep getting error messages.
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
Glad you got hold of Jess Bandy, I left her a VM earlier. I walked into work, spoke to Mikee a while ago, he was ok, got evacuated from tube station, was on bus to work when I spoke to him last. I just got to the office (on Moorgate) and we have now been told that we are not allowed to leave the building until further notice. Fucking scary shit. Our phones aren't working either... can't get hold of my little sister [Frown]
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
govt says 20 dead
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Nice to hear that all of you who have checked in are OK.

BBC website is running slow.

Hearnesditcch(sp) reports of another incident
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
Radio 4 have an extended news summary, then they're joining with 5 Live which is probably the best news source around. Still very laid back, terribly British approach to reports of course.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
Barbelith poster says another bomb found at South Kensington.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
20 people confirmed dead by government spokesman
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
itv coverage better than bbc if you have a tv on
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
20 confirmed dead.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
Barbelith poster says another bomb found at South Kensington.

Jesus Christ, that made my heart leap into my throat.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
BBC Kings Cross train crash - can anyone confirm ?
 
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
 
Hey guys

All is fucking bedlam - Victoria station looked liked Live8. All buses and tubes suspended (obviously), all phone networks down. Paramedics running about everywhere. Feels like armageddon. The films crews were starting to pour in when i cute round the back of Euston. Very, very frightening indeed.

This is the only link to the outside world I have at the moment - for some reason my email is down, and all the phone networks are down. PLease stay in touch guys [Frown]
 
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
 
Hello. I'm here, at home, London. In some ways I wish I was in an office with people - it's kinda lonely just watching it all unfold on the telly. I was supposed to be handing my contracts to my solicitor today to sell my flat, but don't suppose I should even walk anywhere. I want my mum.

Those French really are taking this a bit far.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Agree about ITV, BBC are making a hash of decent field reporters by trying too hard to get something out of them while the field guys are trying to remain calm
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
ITV: eye-witness saying "major incidents" at Russell Square, Tavistock Place, Euston Square and King's Cross.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
 -

Bus.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
stay inside guys, don't go outdoors (obviously). there could be more bombs
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
jesus that bus is on the tv now, it's been ripped apart
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
5 Live mentioned reports of incident at Swindon station now. They must've put the bomb on the wrong train I suppose.
 
Posted by omikin (Member # 37) on :
 
christ. i've mailed/texted people in town and am still waiting to hear from some.

when i lived in town i always found it odd when my mum phoned me all panicky to check i was okay when there had been some panic - now i understand.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Mobile's working again (Orange) starting to get texts thru
 
Posted by Modge (Member # 64) on :
 
ITV are touting for video/picture texts of the incidents [Frown]
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Stockwell station closed, suspect package
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
5 Live mentioned reports of incident at Swindon station now.

Any idea what kind of incident? [Frown]
 
Posted by OJ (Member # 752) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
Barbelith poster says another bomb found at South Kensington.

I really think this sort of speculation is unhelpful. It's scaremongering.

And yes, stay indoors Londoners.
 
Posted by Bandy (Member # 12) on :
 
Benny - whereabouts are you?
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
5 Live mentioned reports of incident at Swindon station now.

Any idea what kind of incident? [Frown]
Latest is just the usual "suspect package". Don't think anything has actually happened. Same goes for Brighton station apparently.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Brighton station is being closed for security reasons. I'm not entirely happy being in the biggest terrorist target in Brighton right now...
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
I wish I could get hold of Mikee again, mobile and work phone both not responding, all that bus shizzle happened after I spoke to him. I can't believe we can't leave the building either, well I can, but I'd rather be at home I think [Frown]
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Just walked back from the city through the choas. Friend has just emailed to say he's going to give blood somewhere near aldgate because it's in short supply!

Mentalism.

Isn't this the moment Gordon the Gopher crops up and says something hilareous?
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by OJ:
I really think this sort of speculation is unhelpful. It's scaremongering.

Not attempting to scare, but to pass on information as I get it, plus source. Happy to stop doing that, though, if it's worrying people.
 
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uber Trick:
I wish I could get hold of Mikee again, mobile and work phone both not responding, all that bus shizzle happened after I spoke to him. I can't believe we can't leave the building either, well I can, but I'd rather be at home I think [Frown]

Hang on there kidda, he's a smart lad. he'll be fine.

O2 doing nothing. Apparently some texts are filtering through though.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
You should see some of the sick posts on B3ta
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SilverGinger5:
Brighton station is being closed for security reasons. I'm not entirely happy being in the biggest terrorist target in Brighton right now...

I suspect authorities are gonna be in better-safe-than-sorry mode. Swindon too, it seems.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Bandy, near Nightingale Square, Balham
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
6 explosions confirmed according to Sky News at the moment.
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
I just got a text through - A FUCKING SPAM TEXT! Can you believe it?! Luckily though it means I was able to send a text to Mikee that wouldn't text before - that's T-Mobile.
 
Posted by schism (Member # 198) on :
 
Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair said there had been at
least 6
explosions, but said the picture was still ``very confused''.
 
Posted by omikin (Member # 37) on :
 
jesus. [Frown]
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
Scrawny - When I'm allowed to leave the building, whenever that may be, if it's any easier for you to get to then you're welcome to come to my flat as I think it's nearer to your office than trying to get back to South London?
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
I suspect authorities are gonna be in better-safe-than-sorry mode.

Yeah, that seems to be the case down here. There's a lot of police kerfuffle outside Lunar house, but nothing's actually happened.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
the news is talking of something that happened in singapore yesterday... i'm probably being a spazz but what happened there?
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Re: Suspect packages

You are going to get a lot of reports of these as people flee they will leave stuff behind. Basically the UK is on the highest state of alert since lord knows when, and every package, no matter how insignificant is suspect.

Just spoken to my sister who is a senior controller for the Essex Fire Brigade, and she said that it is no surprise that the underground has been targetted as it is so insecure.

One point - don't you find it bizarre that the day after London wins the Games, this happens - I wonder if the same would have occurred if one of the other cities had suceeded?
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
The police are saying one bus explosion, 6 tube explosions.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
It could just be a big finger up at George and Tony and the others at G8 saying "remember what we can do"
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Russell Square looks pretty fucking shocking.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
eyewitness: "dead bodies on tube tracks"
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
Police chief confirming six explosions: 5 Tubes, 1 bus.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
I wonder if the same would have occurred if one of the other cities had suceeded?

Something like this must take months to prepare
 
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uber Trick:
Scrawny - When I'm allowed to leave the building, whenever that may be, if it's any easier for you to get to then you're welcome to come to my flat as I think it's nearer to your office than trying to get back to South London?

Thanks hon. This may well be the case- we'l see how today pans out.

The terrifying thing about places like Swindon being shut off is that you start to believe everyone's a target. I mean, a terrorist attack on Primrose Hill would be really kind of crap, but I'm still frightened.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Darryn.R:
You should see some of the sick posts on B3ta

Can't get into B3TA. There seems to be a more and more reduced time between news breaking and piss taking these days. In fact, they probably had the parody pics up before any genuine news photos appeared.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
3 explosions on buses according to Sky News.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
Guardian rolling news blog...
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
there's a sick rush to be the first to be funny sometimes I just don't get.

maybe it's laughing in the face of adversity, but this isn't funny at all..

you've not missed anything Dang, honest
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
From BBC News:
quote:
A spokesman for Vodafone said emergency services were being given priority access to the mobile phone network which was causing problems for other users.

 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Who needs made up humour in the face of adversity when Ian Blair talks to Sky News and says "There's a carefully rehearsed emergency programme swinging into action..." only to be interupted by a journo to tell him - "Mr Blair, you've moved away from the microphone and no one can hear you."

[ 07.07.2005, 06:33: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
Little sister is ok, phew! Still waiting to hear from Mikee though.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
BBC Security specialist reports this is an Al Qaeda backed terrorist incident.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
For light relief, I'm sitting here remembering 9/11 and how we all bonded that day and how much this little community and you guys and girls really do mean to me when the post arrived.

1 letter - A donation to running the site.

Make sure you report in if you find anyone who is missing.

[ 07.07.2005, 06:33: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
From *Cambridge News:

quote:
11.22am: Train stations in Brighton & Swindon shut as precautionary measure. Fighter jets heard being scrambled over Cambridge.

 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vogon Poetess:
Do you remember that episode of Spooks where they thought London was under terrorist attack, but it was all a clever training ruse by their boss?

Something which has struck me twice now:

An eyewitness on the BBC site said he'd never seen so many police as there were outside the closed Tube stations.

A radio reporter outside one of the hospitals just said the casualties are being dealt with by "a huge number of medical staff who were waiting for them".

Where do all these people come from? Are there huge TV and snooker rooms somewhere, packed out with coppers and nurses sitting around smoking and drinking tea until, one day, something like this kicks off and they all leap into a fleet of vans and rush to the scene?
 
Posted by Pink (Member # 459) on :
 
For those looking for an alternitive news site

http://news.ft.com/home/uk

Is working fine, although it being the FT the 200 point drop in the FTSE 100 is on the front page.

Hope everyone and their loved ones are OK.
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
This is fucked up, I'm staggered that the people around me can actually focus on work when this is going on.. Our head office in Golden Square have been confined to the building and all on-street operatives have been recalled I believe. Jesus fucking christ.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Just checked www.blood.co.uk no emergency news. Anybody hears about emergency blood centres let us all know.
 
Posted by Samuelnorton (Member # 48) on :
 
It had been planned for me to go into London today, but my designer hadn't finished off a bunch of graphics and so I am working from home. My route would usually involve changing at King's Cross and arriving at Old Street where according to the BBC site two of the blasts had gone off.

This is terrifying in the extreme, and exposes the really quite soft underbelly of our allegedly secure capital city. I can see something approaching a complete security lockdown now - something that those responsible for today's incidents must be rubbing their hands at. Fuckers.

[ 07.07.2005, 06:40: Message edited by: Samuelnorton ]
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
BBC Security specialist reports this is an Al Qaeda backed terrorist incident.

I heard that the devices used were small explosives designed to cause disruption rather than death, and therefore unlikely to be Al Queeda. I dunno. So many mixed messages.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
Are there huge TV and snooker rooms somewhere, packed out with coppers and nurses sitting around smoking and drinking tea until, one day, something like this kicks off and they all leap into a fleet of vans and rush to the scene?

Yes. There's a police one near Guildhall. I don't know about the ambulances. PS I'm not kidding.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
Would donate, but they don't accept gayer blood...
 
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
 
Apparently they're evacuating the building next to mine, and there are police all along Exhibition Road and Hyde Park is being cordoned off.

I've never been at work when something like this has happened, it seems weird not being at home to watch it on the news.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
Would donate, but they don't accept gayer blood...

That's fucked. And ignore OJ, keep posting updates as and when.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Been trying to get through to my answer phone for an hour. Thank God I finally did because, good news, I've won a holiday! Fucksake.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
Fucking scary eye-witness accounts on ITV: "bodies on the tracks".
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Re: Police/Medical staff

In major incidents like this they have contingency planning to call in all available forces and staff, and also all reserve staff. You will also get assistance from neighbouring forces - I'm still waiting to hear if my sister is being called back from holiday.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Yes. There's a police one near Guildhall. I don't know about the ambulances. PS I'm not kidding.

Ace. Imagine if you'd just shoplifted a shirt from Next and there was some wheezy 80-year-old security guard chasing after you and you thought, heh, no worries, I'll just cut through this door here... Woah!
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Medical staff taking supplies into the tube stations, using anything they can get their hands on - plastic bags, bin bags, etc. Seems they all just grabbed whatever supplies available at places like the urology centre and headed down into the stations, where there are obviously still people down there...
 
Posted by schism (Member # 198) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vogon Poetess:
Apparently they're evacuating the building next to mine, and there are police all along Exhibition Road and Hyde Park is being cordoned off.

I've never been at work when something like this has happened, it seems weird not being at home to watch it on the news.

I'm just next to Hyde Park and there's no cordoning off going on. Amazingly people are getting on with their lives... lots of joggers and dog walkers etc...

There are hundreds of people walking to work but amazingly there are still massive queues for buses... not a chance you'd get me on one of those today!
 
Posted by schism (Member # 198) on :
 
Senior Israeli official says Scotland Yard told Israel minutes before explosions it had received warnings of possible terror attacks...
 
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
 
I don't like being here on my own. If anyone can't get home from the City, or thereabouts, come round.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I'm ok. Got evacuated at Euston and got a phone call to from a friend watching the news to get off the bus. Didn't quite know what to do so walked the rest of the way to work. I left at 8.10pm.
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
My thoughts go out to all in London today. The fear and worry is contagious; even though my brother works at London Bridge and commutes in from Croydon without using underground or bus services, I was still nervous until I heard that he was OK. Now have displaced this with worrying about my friends, a lot of whom go up to London for meetings quite regularly by train and who would be likely to go through Edgware Road at about the time of the explosions. I've heard from a couple of them but the others haven't responded to email yet.
 
Posted by discodamage (Member # 66) on :
 
i dont like being in bristol all of a sudden. too far away. cant get in touch with anyone.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Haven't had time to read the thread. Is Benway present?
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
Thing is, you don't know what's going on do you? When I left someone told me there was one explosion on the Victoria line at finsbury park so I walked into work just round the corner from Old Street and Liverpool Street. If I'd had all the details I would have gone straight back home! Now I'm stuck in my office, not allowed out to go back home and I can't get hold of my boyfriend. Although why the FUCK did they just allowed a delivery of flowers into the office? No-one allowed in or out of the building, and nothing can get across London apart from a bunch of flowers?!
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by schism:
Senior Israeli official says Scotland Yard told Israel minutes before explosions it had received warnings of possible terror attacks...

Why the fuck would they randomly call Israel?
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
Would donate, but they don't accept gayer blood...

I knew that would come back to haunt us.
 
Posted by omikin (Member # 37) on :
 
i just heard someone on radio 4 saying that in incidents like this the least wounded are the first to be brought out due to their mobility and the seriously wounded sometimes take hours to emerge.

[Frown]

also - people taking pictures of this on their mobiles!
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
NOthng from benway, glad you are ok baby!
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Thanks for checking in Mikee
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
The Army have been called in - hearing reports of officers in Fatigues looking out over London.

Great to see people in Hyde Park just carrying on, jogging and the like - its this sort of defiance that will ensure these bastards will not win at their war.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
quote:
Originally posted by schism:
Senior Israeli official says Scotland Yard told Israel minutes before explosions it had received warnings of possible terror attacks...

Why the fuck would they randomly call Israel?
My guess, reporting fucked. Israel probably called Scotland Yard.
 
Posted by schism (Member # 198) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
quote:
Originally posted by schism:
Senior Israeli official says Scotland Yard told Israel minutes before explosions it had received warnings of possible terror attacks...

Why the fuck would they randomly call Israel?
No idea, just something I was told by my "media source" and thought I'd post.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by schism:
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
quote:
Originally posted by schism:
Senior Israeli official says Scotland Yard told Israel minutes before explosions it had received warnings of possible terror attacks...

Why the fuck would they randomly call Israel?
No idea, just something I was told by my "media source" and thought I'd post.
Sorry, not meaning to get at you. Just dubious of the info.
 
Posted by squirrelandgman (Member # 201) on :
 
Reckon I must have been walking through Liverpool St. station when the 1st one went off. Heard nowt.
First time I have been on time for weeks. If I had have got normal train would have been at home now.
Fuck knows how I am going to get home.
All the ways I would walk guaranteed to be no go areas.
Still everyone I know is alright which is a relief.
 
Posted by Samuelnorton (Member # 48) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
Why the fuck would they randomly call Israel?

I'd ask the same question, and those on here know my feelings towards that particular entity.

But now is not the time for this sort of discussion.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Benway has just texted in and is OK.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Tony Blair is up!
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
Great to see people in Hyde Park just carrying on, jogging and the like - its this sort of defiance that will ensure these bastards will not win at their war.

Aye, the nurses I worked with were talking and look worried so I tried to lament that it would be important to remain upbeat and positive. My boss has changed into her uniform and gone out on emergency and I felt a really gay tingle of pride.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
Blair's hammy.

delivery.

even worse than.

usual.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Blair confirms its a terrorist attack. He's leaving the G8 conference and on his way to London in a couple of hours.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
The best I can do transcript wise:

It’s reasonably clear that there have been a series of terrorist attacks in London. There have obviously been casualties. Our thoughts with families.

My intention to leave the G8 and go to London to receive a report and then return to G8 this evening.

G8 continuing in my absence. Continue to discuss the issues we were going to discuss.

Each of the leaders have experience of this kind of shnizzle and we are going to share later.

Particularly barbaric that this has happened on a day when meeting to help problems in Africa and long term environmental problems.

Reasonably clear it is designed to coincide with the opening of the G8

Time to talk later about this. It’s important however that those engaged in terrorism realise that our determination to defend our values and way of life is greater than their determination to cause death and destruction in a desire to…

Whatever they do, they will never succeed in destroying what we and other countries hold dear.

[ 07.07.2005, 07:07: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
I thought Blaire did alright, no chest pounding, no god bless UK nonsense.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Benny the Ball:
I thought Blaire did alright, no chest pounding, no god bless UK nonsense.

Apart from the whole "defending our way of life" schtick. Nothing to do with us bombing Iraq, then.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
I know in times like this its ideal Blair-bashing time, but I thought he carried off that speech well.

I guess the thing is now just to work out what we can all do to help.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
Swindon too, it seems.

Swindon is a massive military target. 4 air bases there.
 
Posted by Bandy (Member # 12) on :
 
Lots of activity at East Croydon. From my office I can see several buses stopped and surrounded by ambulances and police. Ambulance doors are open. Unfortunately its too far away to make out any details.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
I know in times like this its ideal Blair-bashing time, but I thought he carried off that speech well.

I think that, in anyone else, the vocal. tic. of. pausing. would come across clearly as the shock it obviously is. Because Blair always does that, the impact is lost.

Mind you, what the hell can he say?

quote:
I guess the thing is now just to work out what we can all do to help.
Staying indoors at the moment, using landlines rather than mobiles/texts, giving blood if we can.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bandy:
Lots of activity at East Croydon. From my office I can see several buses stopped and surrounded by ambulances and police. Ambulance doors are open. Unfortunately its too far away to make out any details.

There's a bunch of trams lined up out side my office. I think that's just part of closing down the transport system though.

eta: I also thought Blair came across well. I know it's not fashionable to say it, but he seemed genuine and honest. It's also a big step to duck out of G8 to see to the problems on his doorstep.

[ 07.07.2005, 07:15: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
LAS statement confirms ambulance services called to deal with explosions at the following stations.

Kings Cross (Rescue operation in progress in tunnels at Kings X)

Liverpool Street
Moorgate
Aldgate
Edgware Road
Leicester Square

Bus at Tavistock Square.


G8 leaders will soon deliver statement to back up Blair’s comments.

Extra medics performing operations on the platform at King’s X
 
Posted by Tom Boy (Member # 765) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:

I guess the thing is now just to work out what we can all do to help.

Its at times like this where I really regret not concentrating at school and getting some sort of useful qualification to help folk, if a call goes out for strong backs, I'm on my way but untill then I'd just get in the way
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Nice adlib from Sky News when they went over to House of Commons to hear a speech by Geoff Hoon. Hoon was talking about something completely unconnected to the bombs.

SKY: "Apparently Mr Hoon is NOT making a statement. A note there for anyone who wishes to upset democracy. It's business as usual in the House of Commons."

[ 07.07.2005, 07:28: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
Apparently prices have just gone up in hotels in London - colleagues gf just texted him as she works in the industry. Fucking disgusting if it's true [Mad]
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Guardian says there are reports of an explosion in Leicester Square
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
My Girlfriend works in the city. She’s just received an email from the company brass saying: “We are compiling a list of those of you who live in London. We will then compile a second list detailing which of you have available beds for tonight.”
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
seems fair enough to me.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
BBC news page reports that a website claiming to be from a terrorist organisation attached to Al Qaeda have claimed responsibility - no text to back this up - just on the ticker tape at the top of the page.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I'm currently stuck here. All my educational team have gone on standby, phones can't beused in case of an emergency. Nobody knows who is going home and how.

I've got two tasks for the day.

Answer the phones if it rings - doubtful
Update the team if any change of plan comes through from email - doubtful also, I reckon it's going to be a 24 hour 'expect the worse' scenario.

Even more facked up, was that I was saving my 4000th post for something special and going to request a dripping red underground sign. Obviously, in keeping with my bands design work, and just simply 'decay'

Fucking creepy. [Frown] At least I used it to contact everyone on here.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
hello gentlemen!


We're on lock down too, and I've take about five shits already this morning.

[ 07.07.2005, 07:24: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by H1ppychick:
seems fair enough to me.

And to me.
 
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
 
Good old Benway.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jonesy999:
My Girlfriend works in the city. She’s just received an email from the company brass saying: “We are compiling a list of those of you who live in London. We will then compile a second list detailing which of you have available beds for tonight.”

Yeah, there are a few girls in our office that were asking if anyone could offer a place for them to stay for the night. Naturally, I selflessly raised my hand.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Who are we missing?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Colleague's brother is a fire brigade investigator. Has heard Aldgate was a suicide bomb.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Benway:
hello gentlemen!

Always the sick fuck! I bet you were making your time to come up with that.
 
Posted by Vanilla Online Persona (Member # 301) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Colleague's brother is a fire brigade investigator. Has heard Aldgate was a suicide bomb.

that rules the French out then.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
Barbelith very slow at the moment. Suspect too many are trying to check in at once.

Any more news on the supposed Leicester Square explosion?
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Sky just said the Russell Square bus bomb was a suicide bomber
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Oui!
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uber Trick:
Apparently prices have just gone up in hotels in London - colleagues gf just texted him as she works in the industry. Fucking disgusting if it's true [Mad]

This will probably be the last night that Central London hotels can fill all their beds for about two years after today's events. Suppose they might as well try and make something out of it then.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
The only mention of the Leicester Squre bomb seems to have been in the official LAS statement. No cameras or reporters there for Sky of BBC at the moment.

[ 07.07.2005, 07:41: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
yeah, what's up with Barbelith?

Suicide bombers all speculation at the moment though?
 
Posted by Vanilla Online Persona (Member # 301) on :
 
Capital radio is in Leicester Square - what are they saying?
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Something about containing earths most powerful music machine or something, probably
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
From another forum:

quote:
one of the suicide bombers was shot before he/she detonated, hence six explosions instead of the numerologically significant seven. Seven bombings on the seventh of the seventh - this is certainly the work of a religious group, realistically probably Islamic (al'Q, Hezbollah etc.) but could be any other religion that uses the Old Testament.
I'm staying on TMO now. I feel safer here.
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
I just spoke to the National Blood Service regarding making a donation however they said that the stocks are ok at the moment and as yet no emergency centres have been set up. She said that the situation will be monitored throughout the day and if they require donations a notice will go out on TV and radio.
 
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jonesy999:
The only mention of the Leicester Squre bomb seems to have been in the official LSA statement. No cameras or reporters there for Sky of BBC at the moment.

quote:
1212 There are now reports from the London Ambulance Service of an explosion in Leicester Square. UPDATE - Reader Rod Stanley emails in - he works near Leicester Square, and all is calm there. Thanks for that, Rod.

 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
From another forum:

quote:
one of the suicide bombers was shot before he/she detonated, hence six explosions instead of the numerologically significant seven. Seven bombings on the seventh of the seventh - this is certainly the work of a religious group, realistically probably Islamic (al'Q, Hezbollah etc.) but could be any other religion that uses the Old Testament.
I'm staying on TMO now. I feel safer here.
Where the fuck did you get that from, dang?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
*GROUP CLAIMS ATTACKS

quote:
A terror group linked to al Qaeda has claimed it carried out a series of terror attacks on London that have left a number of people dead and hundreds injured.

 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Thanks, Oobs.
 
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
 
Suicide bombers?

Shit. Benway, glad to know you're ok. is there anyone who hasn't checked in yet?
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
The eyewitness people they are interviewing on Sky are saying that there are large numbers of medical and other emergency personnel around which implies that the emergency plan is fairly robust, at least.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Not a hugely reliable source, but there is a wikipedia page about this which is getting updated about every second.

A lot of the updates are incredibly racist of course, but it's there if anyone wants it.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Listening to BBC London I am actually getting a great feeling of bloody-minded defiance, and just get on with life attitude by everyone in London. People rallying around looking out for eachother, contingency planning seems to be working bloody well, and just this whole attitude that life goes on.

It may be a sad day for London, but it is also a chance to show what a bloody great city it is too.

Ne te confundant illegitimi!
 
Posted by Tom Boy (Member # 765) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
From another forum:

one of the suicide bombers was shot before he/she detonated, hence six explosions instead of the numerologically significant seven. Seven bombings on the seventh of the seventh - this is certainly the work of a religious group, realistically probably Islamic (al'Q, Hezbollah etc.) but could be any other religion that uses the Old Testament.


do you know where this happened Dang??

[ 07.07.2005, 07:49: Message edited by: Tom Boy ]
 
Posted by The Stoat (Member # 813) on :
 
AAARRRGGGHHH!!!
For some reason I seem to be able to receive texts at the moment (from people asking if I and others are okay) but I can't send any message out to let them know.

This is seriously fucked.

UCH saying the injuries are "in the tens rather than the hundreds so far", but bear in mind that's one of only three main hospitals taking in casualties.
 
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
 
Leicester Square all quiet. Thank fuck.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Boy:
do you know where this happened Dang??

I just quoted it because it's so mental - ye seven bombs on ye seventh day of ye seventh month, just like it sayeth in ye Old Testament!

I got it from a cycling forum which I read most days, and which is usually to be relied on for it's rational and pragmatic postings. Except for today.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
4 suicide bombers in Aldgate! May be many more devices on tubes and buses. Source - fire brigade investigator.
 
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
 
Where did you get this from? Can you link to it? There are more?

Oh my God I want to go home. Herbs are you still there? I may well be on my way over.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Sorry, no link. As I say, colleagues brother is a FB investigator.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
You'll be safer at work right now scrawns. Don't panic.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
MobLog from the underground
 
Posted by schism (Member # 198) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Boy:
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
From another forum:

one of the suicide bombers was shot before he/she detonated, hence six explosions instead of the numerologically significant seven. Seven bombings on the seventh of the seventh - this is certainly the work of a religious group, realistically probably Islamic (al'Q, Hezbollah etc.) but could be any other religion that uses the Old Testament.


do you know where this happened Dang??

I've heard from someone who got an email from someone's mate who says their friend has a friend who saw it happen... that a suicide bomber was shot dead at Canary Wharf.
 
Posted by chocolatebuns (Member # 362) on :
 
Glad to read you're all safe and well.

Thatisall.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
Very glad people here are ok, discounting Benway's digestion of course.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
pool
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Colleague at work:

"I was thinking of selling some shares yesterday and now this happens!"

[Mad]

[ 07.07.2005, 08:08: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by chocolatebuns:
Glad to read you're all safe and well.

Thatisall.

Chocolatebuns posts on TMO! Conflict brings a nation together. Great news.
 
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
Glad to hear everyone's all right... I was following the developments with some irritation on my way in to the office this morning.

The news radio kept saying a series of explosions in central london, numerous casualties, no details yet, and now on to sports! in a gratingly cheery tone.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
how wooden do the G8 lot look on BBC?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I can hear loads of sirens outside my office in central Reading. I'm sure it's unrelated.

[ 07.07.2005, 08:16: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Misc, that's just Reading - probably a glassing at the Oracle centre
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
Press Release from the National Blood Service, pretty much what I already posted.
 
Posted by Keef (Member # 27) on :
 
Glad all you Londoners are ok - I assume you all are from what's been posted on this page, the p(r)oxy server won't let any of the previous pages display.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Benny the Ball:
Misc, that's just Reading - probably a glassing at the Oracle centre

Nah, there's loads of smoke about. I think it might be another construction site fire right next to my office.

*They're all the rage around these parts.
 
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
 
 -

See the bust stop in the foregroung? Thats where martin was.
 
Posted by discodamage (Member # 66) on :
 
glad to see youre all checking in safe and sound. i just nearly threw an epi because they werent able to charge my mobile at the orange shop in broadmead, and the nearest branch is at cribbs causeway.

reasons to leave london: big fuck off bombs

reasons to stay in london: my chosen mobile operator has fewer branches

[ 07.07.2005, 08:33: Message edited by: discodamage ]
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Oh Lord save us, they've let George talk...
 
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
Seems they're being very cautious in releasing statistics on the number of people affected, particularly injured/killed statistics - is this true of the local coverage also?

I ask because the news operations on this side tend to quote figures as early as possible - I remember some "news" programs speculating as high as 16 or 20 thousand on nine-eleven - so I have to admit the apparent hesitancy to quote figures seems quite a surprisingly responsible and welcome difference.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
froop - i think it's just cause they don't know... the rescue operation is still going on in the tube stations; there are still people trapped down there...

i think
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Darryn.R:
Oh Lord save us, they've let George talk...

At least he didn't need to pause for 10 minutes between every other word like our Tony.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Top marks to Livingstone for turning a good speech into a London Tourist Board advert.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
any news of modge and kovacs? they haven't reported in have they
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Yeah, Modge did. I think she might've mentioned if kovacs had been atomised.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Modge:


On my way home - I thankfully decided not to attempt a bus trip from London Bridge to Hammersmith - a women gleefully announced to me on the train "It's terrorists annoyed about the Olympics, isn't it exciting!" Umm...no.


 
Posted by omikin (Member # 37) on :
 
modge has reported in. is ko about?
 
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
 
My building got evacuated about two hours ago. They didn't set off the usual fire alarm, a bloke from Security just ran down the corridors yelling for everyone to get out. It was pretty fucking scary.

There are conflicting reports- a bomb scare in the Tanaka Building, or a controlled explosion at Princes Gate.

They've only evacuated the buildings that look onto Exhibition Rd, meaning the rest of the college is just carrying on and I can post from my boss' other office.

I have absolutely no fucking idea how I'm going to get home. Are trains running from Victoria?
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Great, just got told to stay in the office and not to travel as advised by the chief constable of the met. Starting to get panicky at being holed up.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
Pretty sure Mr K is ok, he was posting on another forum earlier.

Bemoaning the ineffectualness of their rolecall infact.

[ 07.07.2005, 08:46: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
 
Posted by Good Fairy (Member # 479) on :
 
Hello.
we are on Red alert,waiting to accept casualties.
I wish I was back at Royal London Hospital.
I could be doing something instead of waiting.

I feel very proud to be in London today. It makes me more determined to get on with my life.

I WILL NOT allow them to make me afraid to live my life.
gotta go, been called
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vogon Poetess:
I have absolutely no fucking idea how I'm going to get home. Are trains running from Victoria?

Lol, ever the optimist veep.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
It's an odd mix down here. They've cordoned off the two main roads, it seems, and the only food supply I found was a tiny Newsagents next to The Bedford Tavern, crammed with people, and virtually picked clean of chocolate bars and crisps.
 
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
 
Vogon I have no idea either. Either i walk from primrose hill to Balham (not tempting) or I hole up in north London and take on these people's kind offers of hospitality.

Mikee, I'm with ya man. Scary as. [Frown]
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
Senior Management are in a meeting now and they're letting us know the deal at 2.30pm. I hope they say we can go home if we can get there, it'll take me about an hour and 30 mins to walk back but I'd rather do that than sit here.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
chocolate bars and crisps.

I'm so glad I work with nursey, mumsy types. The office is filled with rations like chocolate biscuits and cheddars. If only I had some spam to get into the feel a bit more. Oh how I've been a fool to knock the war-time champion - spam.
 
Posted by Tom Boy (Member # 765) on :
 
I have a friend who is a trained paramedic and is sitting at home desparate to be of some help, does anyone know who she should contact or how she could help? She's in bethnal green.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I'm sort of fucked, because I would offer to meet up with you girls, but you're both in opposite directions. I don't want to be stuck here. I know they don't want anyone to travel, but I can't think anyone would waste a bomb on just me.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Good Fairy:
I feel very proud to be in London today. It makes me more determined to get on with my life.

I WILL NOT allow them to make me afraid to live my life.
gotta go, been called

Well said! And good luck for today.

I have to say the emergency services have dealt with this whole catcastrophe absolutely brilliantly - the Police have on the whole kept panic to a minimum, the Fire and Ambulance Crews have dealt with so many casualties with amazing speed and effectiveness, and just the combined efforts of all the involved services are really something to be admired at.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
Woman on BBC London: "... and the good news is, the Congestion Charge has been suspended today."
 
Posted by Tom Boy (Member # 765) on :
 
we have free coffee and free net, I have taken 2 calls since starting at 9 this morn, managment are about to come up with solutions on how to get everyone home to make sure they still come to work tomorrow and I still feel like a usless oik, anyone need any Broadband to keep abreast of todays issues 0800 975 3030... No? Didnt think so
 
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
 
Back in my own building now. The lady in the next office confirmed there was a controlled explosion out on Exhibition Rd, opposite our main front entrance, as she heard the bang. I'm sure they wouldn't have bothered with a bomb here if they hadn't gone and built a nice new shiny front door and got the Queen to open it.

Are there any buses anywhere?
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Boy:
I have a friend who is a trained paramedic and is sitting at home desparate to be of some help, does anyone know who she should contact or how she could help? She's in bethnal green.

Tom, she could try and contact her local ambulance service and offer her assistance.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
and TFL wonder why anyone would put a bomb on their vehicles.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
A bomb has gone off in Coventry, apparently.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
What's your source?
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
What's your source?

My colleagues boyfriend, via text. Unreliable I know.
 
Posted by Tom Boy (Member # 765) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uber Trick:
Tom, she could try and contact her local ambulance service and offer her assistance.

Cheers Lah
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by scrawny:
Vogon I have no idea either. Either i walk from primrose hill to Balham (not tempting) or I hole up in north London and take on these people's kind offers of hospitality.

Wonder how many bicycles will be sold in Central London today? Probably about three. People would rather sleep in parks and shop doorways than cycle for about 40 minutes. [Mad]
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
Wonder how many bicycles will be sold in Central London today? Probably about three. People would rather sleep in parks and shop doorways than cycle for about 40 minutes. [Mad]

Oh dang, you and your cycling shoulder chip. Most people aren't allowed to leave their place of work, let alone do the tour de centre.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
Transcript of Bush's speech:

Sorry, folks.

We at G8 are TEH GOOD-DOERS!!1! We are curing poverty and AIDS and shitty weather.

The people blowing up innocent folks are TEH EVIL-DOERS!1!! They are doing evil stuff like what we never did.

The War on Terrrrrrrrrrrrr continues, folks.
 
Posted by Tom Boy (Member # 765) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
Wonder how many bicycles will be sold in Central London today? Probably about three. People would rather sleep in parks and shop doorways than cycle for about 40 minutes. [Mad]

I have been trying to get rid of mine for about 3 months, front and rear suspension, disc brakes, 24 speed Saracen Havoc, bargain at £250, any takers contact me tommidob@yahoo.co.uk
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vogon Poetess:


Are there any buses anywhere?

I don't think buses in 'central London' are running yet but there are buses running further out. God knows what they classify as 'central'

quote:

Are trains running from Victoria?



Most mainline train stations are open according to the telly. As Victoria wasn't explodeded, I assume it is open and running trains.

[ 07.07.2005, 09:28: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
 
If I can get to Victoria, I'm going to try and get home I think. I need my bandy (although I have just bought a scotch egg which is a filling subsitute)
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Someone just told me Victoria is closed.
 
Posted by kovacs (Member # 28) on :
 
I am fine thanks. Good old London.
 
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
 
Hey Kovacs. Nice to hear from you [Smile]
 
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
 
Thanks, Jonesy. Croydon seems a long, long way away at the moment.

One small bonus: obviously our visitors never arrived, so I had to eat up all the biscuits before they went soft.

A comforting message from the king of the college:

In the event you have any concerns regarding your journey home please contact Human Resources on 45507

Ask HR to sort you out in a terrorist emergency when they can't even draw up contract paperwork in time? This is surely the chilling descent into apocalyptic chaos and despair that the terrorists wanted.
 
Posted by kovacs (Member # 28) on :
 
Terrorist crisis brings the forum together.
 
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
 
Victoria shut. Sorry Veep.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4659259.stm
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
Apologies for triteness, but I'm reposting this from Barbelith:

 -

Good ol' Alan Moore.

[ 07.07.2005, 09:34: Message edited by: Ganesh ]
 
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kovacs:
Terrorist crisis brings the forum together.

Is this a story on the BBC site?
 
Posted by Bandy (Member # 12) on :
 
I was eating my lunch in a scruffy bar opposite my office when it was evacuated. I didn't even get to see my steak baguette OR finish my drink.

Apparently there have been several small controlled explosions at East Croydon station in the last hour.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by scrawny:
quote:
Originally posted by kovacs:
Terrorist crisis brings the forum together.

Is this a story on the BBC site?
No, it's Ozymandias in Watchmen. Kinda.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Scotland Yard still saying "Stay Where You Are" if you're in central London.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
The cycling forum is bursting with information today:
quote:
I have heard from a pretty good source that Bloomberg contacted its employees at 7:15am today and told them not to travel to work in London.
Uh huh.

quote:
Mobile phone networks in London have been switched off because mobile phones can be used to remotely detonate bombs (see Madrid).
Gotcha. Any more insider info?

quote:
News seems to say only 4 confirmed blasts rather than the 6 or 7 incidents. Bus bomber should have been on the underground but got caught up in the traffic
Was it like this during the Blitz do you reckon?
 
Posted by Kellifer (Member # 187) on :
 
Hope you are all okay and that loved ones are safe. My thoughts are with you Londoners and hope you get home safely tonight.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
I wish Stealgate was here.

[ 07.07.2005, 09:44: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
quote:
Mobile phone networks in London have been switched off because mobile phones can be used to remotely detonate bombs (see Madrid).
Errmm... that maybe true that they can be used to detonate devices, but how come people can SMS ok - I have heard from several people that they are able to send and receive sms's and surely this could be used to detonate an explosive device.

Plus what if someone dialled the wrong number the day before?
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
A Barbelith poster has apparently received an official looking circular from Westminster police, saying that walking is now reckoned to be okay so long as people stay away from the affected stations.
 
Posted by turbo (Member # 593) on :
 
Glad to see all the Londonites post on this thread. It must feel extremely surreal to be in London at the moment.
 
Posted by schism (Member # 198) on :
 
I don't mean to belittle the situation and I'm fairly well out of it in the West End so all I can see is just hundreds more people walking around than usual...

...but, it seems that London got away with it pretty lightly all things considered.

It's true that millions must have been lost by business and a huge amount of disruption and worry has been caused but on the scale of things, it's no New York or Madrid. That's one thing that we should be thankful for.
 
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
A Barbelith poster has apparently received an official looking circular from Westminster police, saying that walking is now reckoned to be okay so long as people stay away from the affected stations.

Can everyone keep an eye out for some official confirmation of this? Cheers x
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
I am hearing that several main line stations are now open or will be opening soon.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
British Transport Police number for concerned friends/relatives: (020) 8358 0101.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by schism:
I don't mean to belittle the situation and I'm fairly well out of it in the West End so all I can see is just hundreds more people walking around than usual...

...but, it seems that London got away with it pretty lightly all things considered.

Yeah, I was about to post the following. Here goes anyway:

I really, really hope I'm not saying anything out of line here, but I'm getting a strong feeling that this has been a far smaller incident than was first reported. I think the sheer number of people with mobile phones, email/internet access and instant digital cameras has allowed approximately four explosions to appear like a creeping barrage where any bus, train or litter bin could explode at any moment.

So many witnesses have described hearing the Russell Square explosion that one gets the impression there must have been lots of explosions. The radio and internet news sites were reporting three buses and five or six Tube bombings and twenty deaths at one stage. It's now down to one bus and three Tube, and two (2) confirmed deaths.

I know that casualty figures tend to increase as time goes by with these incidents, but starting with at two surely offers some hope that it's not going to be a very large figure, however horrible any figure would be.

Also, having everyone locked into their buildings and sirens rushing around to check suspect packages is obviously adding to the atmosphere. It's a precaution, a sensible one perhaps, but it doesn't help people to get an accurate perspective on the real situation.

I dunno, that may be complete bollo, but it's the view I'm starting to get from my remote vantage point absolutely nowhere near London.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Apparently there should be an update from a conference by the chiefs of the emergency staff about casualty numbers in the next few minutes.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Is it me, or is Bush sounding more and more like Rain Man everytime he gets in front of a camera?
 
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
 
Yah, Dang. That seems to be the view of A N Expert just on the telly. He said that we're 'lucky', in that it wasn't a chemical or biological attack, and that the physical explosions were smaller than thay could have been - cf Madrid. He described it as a 'warning attack', showing what they can do. This is not particularly comforting.

A US security organisation (un-named) reckons there's 40 dead. There are apparently 8-10 dead at Edgware Road, 10 at Kings Cross and 2 at Aldgate. Hard to know if it's a Madrid-style situation, where the casualty figure started small and rose horrifically, or a Twin Towers type, where the numbers started at 60,000 and went down.

Quite a feeling of 'move along, nothing to see here, just get on with it' seems to be emanating from the media now.
 
Posted by The Stoat (Member # 813) on :
 
Oh, yeah.
They had Paddick on earlier, saying (well, speculating, to be fair, but it kinda made sense) that he didn't think a large bodycount was the objective- it was more designed to fuck the infrastructure for a day- kind of a "we can do this any time we want- probably a whole bunch more if we feel like it" type deal.
Although it doesn't seem to have inspired as much panic as I'm guessing it was intended to- I fucking love this city.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
I dunno, that may be complete bollo, but it's the view I'm starting to get from my remote vantage point absolutely nowhere near London.

Fair enough dang, but you wouldn't have been so cool when you hear that there's been an explosion on a bus and then someone gets on with a detection device crackling and bleeping. When you finally arrive nearly three hours late for work and all of your team have been called on standby, you might be a teensy bit over-precautious. There were at least two people who didn't get off so lightly this morning at least. That's enough for me in Little Britain.
 
Posted by schism (Member # 198) on :
 
There is the fear factor now though.

It could have been worse. They can do it.

Who wants to get on a tube or a bus tomorrow now? Or next week?
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Also, I can't say what I know here.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by schism:
Who wants to get on a tube or a bus tomorrow now? Or next week?

I would. There might be a bit of room for once.
 
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
 
I think what you say about the way news of modern events can spread instantly and become exaggerated is true, Dang, but the scale of it may be wider than you think. Like I said, it seems there was a controlled explosion outside my office in South Ken, but that hasn't made it onto any news site.

There may not be as many deaths as in the Madrid train, but they have effectively demonstrated how easy a large city can be disabled.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by schism:
Who wants to get on a tube or a bus tomorrow now? Or next week?

I didn't want to for a while after 9/11. Point is, I had to, I don't have any other choice. It's just one of those daily risks one cannot avoid; being fearful seems, I dunno, a waste of effort somehow.
 
Posted by turbo (Member # 593) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by schism:
Who wants to get on a tube or a bus tomorrow now? Or next week?

Not me. When the IRA were staging all kinds of stuff in the late 90's, I walked everywhere each time I went to London, even when it rained or if my meeting was bloody miles away. Doesn't take much to instill The Fear in me...
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
Also, I can't say what I know here.

[Frown] [Confused] [Frown]
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
Scrawny - we are now being allowed out of our office and have also been told the "walk but stay away from affected areas thing". I hope to be going home shortly but I need to contact a few more colleagues and see my boss and stuff first. If you need to come to mine then do. You know the digits. I think Victoria is still closed and buses are running outside of Zone 1.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by schism:
Who wants to get on a tube or a bus tomorrow now? Or next week?

I will be: I want to see my girlfriend. Anyway, if I blew up people would imagine all the great things I might have done, rather than getting confirmation of all the stuff I'd actually have fucked up.

[ 07.07.2005, 10:20: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
Also, I can't say what I know here.

Presumably this cryptic comment means that the official line is somewhat playing down the bodycount for casualties and fatalities at this stage, and that you are 'in the know' because of where you work?
 
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by schism:
Who wants to get on a tube or a bus tomorrow now? Or next week?

This is it, though, isn't it. Even when they do get the tubes up and running, I'm not sure I'll be queueing up to be first on. Mind you people have incredibly short memories...
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vogon Poetess:
I think what you say about the way news of modern events can spread instantly and become exaggerated is true, Dang, but the scale of it may be wider than you think. Like I said, it seems there was a controlled explosion outside my office in South Ken, but that hasn't made it onto any news site.

I'm not being blasé about this, honest. It's obviously been a horrible day. A controlled explosion could be anything though - a briefcase, a parcel, a sandwich box. Just something suspicious enough to be neutralised. I agree with the theory that the main aim was to fuck up London for the day, or for the week or whatever. It's got to be so easy to do that. Sick, but easy.
 
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uber Trick:
Scrawny - we are now being allowed out of our office and have also been told the "walk but stay away from affected areas thing". I hope to be going home shortly but I need to contact a few more colleagues and see my boss and stuff first. If you need to come to mine then do. You know the digits. I think Victoria is still closed and buses are running outside of Zone 1.

Thankyou. Will see how I get on. [Smile]

P.S. Uber, finally got your vm. Thanksx
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
I agree with the theory that the main aim was to fuck up London for the day, or for the week or whatever. It's got to be so easy to do that. Sick, but easy.

True, but, as Stoatie says over on Barbelith, "paralysing the transport network" is hardly the threat they seem to think it is. London's pretty hard to terrify.

[ 07.07.2005, 10:22: Message edited by: Ganesh ]
 
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
 
quote:
True, but, as Stoatie says over on Barbelith, "paralysing the transport network" is hardly the threat they seem to think it is.

First Network Rail, now Al Qaeda.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
True, but, as Stoatie says over on Barbelith, "paralysing the transport network" is hardly the threat they seem to think it is.

Yeah, I was thinking that. Are London workers supposed to shake in fear, going "Fuck! I might have to stay at home on Friday, instead of going into work. Fuck! This is the one thing I didn't want to happen!"
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by H1ppychick:
Presumably this cryptic comment means that the official line is somewhat playing down the bodycount for casualties and fatalities at this stage, and that you are 'in the know' because of where you work?

I'm aware of something similar.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
0870 15 66 344 - Missing Relatives Hotline

7 Dead at Moorgate

21 Dead Kings Cross

5 Dead Edgware Road

Fatalities known but not confirmed about Tavistock Square
 
Posted by schism (Member # 198) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
True, but, as Stoatie says over on Barbelith, "paralysing the transport network" is hardly the threat they seem to think it is.

Yeah, I was thinking that. Are London workers supposed to shake in fear, going "Fuck! I might have to stay at home on Friday, instead of going into work. Fuck! This is the one thing I didn't want to happen!"
lol!

I stupidly pointed out that my moped got me to work quickly and in relative safety today so people should stop taking the piss out of me.

No I'm one of the last in the office as I won't be struggling home and I've been elected to be one of the first in tomorrow as I won't struggle in.

Now everyone's taking the piss.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
London's pretty hard to terrify.

That's very gung ho, but how many cities are thought to be easy to terrify? Even New York, with it's hysterical "Oh MY GODDDDD!" reaction to everything remained fantastically cool and composed during 9/11. It's not like they had traffic jams of pick-ups laden with belongings fleeing the city.

No, the point is to disrupt. If it takes four hours to book into a flight to America or Israel then the terrorists have done a great job. If we have to pour billions into an ID Card scheme which pisses us all off, top value too.

In places like Iraq, it makes sense to kill. There's barely any infrastructure worth sabotaging. Here, take your pick.
 
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
That's very gung ho, but how many cities are thought to be easy to terrify?

Paris. Any excuse and they'll be sobbing into their frogs legs.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
From the *BBC
quote:
• The officer in charge of policing the G8 summit said many of the 1,500 Metropolitan Police officers in Scotland would be urgently redeployed to London
This worries me. Could it be part of a bigger plan?
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
That's very gung ho, but how many cities are thought to be easy to terrify? Even New York, with it's hysterical "Oh MY GODDDDD!" reaction to everything remained fantastically cool and composed during 9/11. It's not like they had traffic jams of pick-ups laden with belongings fleeing the city.

I certainly wasn't silently adding "... and other cities are big shitey-arsed poofs". It's more that I've been quite impressed with what seems almost a ludicrously British attitude in several of those interviewed, a sort of eye-rolley "bloody Tube - again" thing. Over on Barbelith, they're getting concerned about whether or not they'll make it to the pub.

quote:
In places like Iraq, it makes sense to kill. There's barely any infrastructure worth sabotaging. Here, take your pick.
Well, yes, but we're also fairly well used to our infrastructures being crappy and failing us frequently. Okay, if the Tube and bus services were unusable for weeks on end, it'd be truly disruptive. Otherwise, I think it'll concern people for a short while, then they'll just get on with it.

[ 07.07.2005, 10:39: Message edited by: Ganesh ]
 
Posted by Vanilla Online Persona (Member # 301) on :
 
quote:
Guardian:

1503 That news conference has been delayed. But we are hearing that Victoria, Euston and Paddington stations have re-opened this afternoon. St Pancras and Liverpool Street could also reopen soon. The only station likely to remain shut before tonight's rush-hour is the non-suburban (ie - Intercity) bit of King's Cross. The tube, of course, remains completely closed.

That's very impressive. Good on ya Lahndahn.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vogon Poetess:
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
That's very gung ho, but how many cities are thought to be easy to terrify?

Paris. Any excuse and they'll be sobbing into their frogs legs.
Is that the Paris that spent most of World War One within easy range of German artillery? The one where you could get a taxi to drive you out to the front line?
 
Posted by The Stoat (Member # 813) on :
 
Over on Barbelith, they're getting concerned about whether or not they'll make it to the pub.

As the man said, they'll never destroy our way of life...
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
email from work:

We have been advised by the police that Cardiff Central Train Station has been closed due to a suspicious vehicle parked in the car park next to the station.

Their advice is that all employees should remain in [name of office building which is directly opposite station] and to stay away from the front windows facing the station and pull down the blinds on these windows.

We will advise you when the police have dealt with the situation and you are able to leave.

 
Posted by The Stoat (Member # 813) on :
 
God, talk about emotive reporting... Paddick's giving this news conference, right, and the question "are there any children among the fatalities?" just came up. And I'm guessing it was more for red-top newsy reasons than out of genuine concern. I'm surprised he didn't ask if there were any tots. Tragic ones, preferably.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
"Were there any photogenic tragic tots?"
 
Posted by rooster (Member # 738) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by H1ppychick:
email from work:
stay away from the front windows facing the station and pull down the blinds on these windows.

How can you do both?
 
Posted by The Stoat (Member # 813) on :
 
Paddick's the only official-talking-dude I've seen all day who hasn't made me want to kick my telly in.

Having said that, his competition was Bush, Blair and Livingstone (for whom I reserve a special contempt because he USED to be cool...) so he doesn't have to try too hard...
 
Posted by The Stoat (Member # 813) on :
 
"unknown number" of fatalities on the bus... added to the 33 confirmed, this really unpleasantly seems to confirm what I've heard from a friend "whose mate works at RLH"...
 
Posted by The Stoat (Member # 813) on :
 
Although the BBC news guy just said "at least 33 have been dyed"... at least I THINK that's what he said...
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Stoat:
Although the BBC news guy just said "at least 33 have been dyed"... at least I THINK that's what he said...

Glad I'm not the only one to have heard this.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
For the sake of wanting a shout out:

Sky - you out there ? (Fish is in Africa right ?)
Bailey - you out there ?

Teflon ?

All other London based peeps ?

If anyone knows that anyone else is safe could they just pop a quick note on this thread and let us know please.

Thanks
 
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
 
Yeah, I saw the 33 thing. And there are definitely more from the bus.

Also a man ay apress conference said that the G8 plods were staying up there and they were going to get in spares from the countryside around london.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Abby:
Yeah, I saw the 33 thing. And there are definitely more from the bus.

Also a man ay apress conference said that the G8 plods were staying up there and they were going to get in spares from the countryside around london.

How's your boyfriend? He must be pretty shaken up.
 
Posted by turbo (Member # 593) on :
 
Anyone have any idea when the mobile phone networks will be working again? I've been trying to call my boss all day, who is staying in central London, but I can't get through.
 
Posted by The Stoat (Member # 813) on :
 
Mobiles? Keep trying. Every now and then I manage to get a call that works. A couple of hours ago there was about ten minutes when it all worked fine.

...although I guess if EVERYONE keeps trying it'll just keep it fucked...
 
Posted by Bandy (Member # 12) on :
 
I had a meeting booked tomorrow morning with the construction company who are working on the Kings Cross redevelopment. Understandably they've cancelled as they're (quote) "absolutely shitting it about their people's safety on site".

Another contact, who's office is right above Aldgate tube station, reckons that the death count from that that incident alone could reach forty plus. [Frown]
 
Posted by The Stoat (Member # 813) on :
 
They're now grilling some guy on why Andy Trotter couldn't give a definite answer on whether this was all over...

...I mean, WTF? How's he supposed to know? That's an unfair question, if you ask me.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rooster:
quote:
Originally posted by H1ppychick:
email from work:
stay away from the front windows facing the station and pull down the blinds on these windows.

How can you do both?
Maybe it's a trap..?
 
Posted by The Stoat (Member # 813) on :
 
Are you sure there wasn't a "not necessarily in that order" in the small print?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Hey, forum. What would you tell two curious six-year-olds, with startlingly overactive imaginations, about what happened today?
 
Posted by Modge (Member # 64) on :
 
Darryn, I heard from bailey earlier. She is okay, stuck at work, but okay.
 
Posted by Tom Boy (Member # 765) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Hey, forum. What would you tell two curious six-year-olds, with startlingly overactive imaginations, about what happened today?

Shit exploded killing some people but were still gonna fix the starvation problem in Africa, tube prices will skyrocket to pay for damage caused and the drop off in custom, london buses will be redesigned to look more like the batmobile and the economy has gone to shit. Who fancies a walk in Hyde park followed by Mcdonalds and ice cream?
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Hey, forum. What would you tell two curious six-year-olds, with startlingly overactive imaginations, about what happened today?

Read them Bush's speech? Nahh, I think they'd find that patronising.
 
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Hey, forum. What would you tell two curious six-year-olds, with startlingly overactive imaginations, about what happened today?

How about, Rejoice for it is time to take revenge against the British Zionist Crusader government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan. The heroic mujahideen have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters.

We have repeatedly warned the British Government and people. We have fulfilled our promise and carried out our blessed military raid in Britain after our mujahideen exerted strenuous efforts over a long period of time to ensure the success of the raid.

We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused.

God says: "You who believe: If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly."
??

That should shut them up for a while.
 
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
 
PIck someone you'd be fairly comfortable with them hating (the Swiss, for example) and tell them it was all their fault.

Actually, I have no idea. Good luck man [Frown]
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
I think I'm just going to go home and veg out in front of a DVD to take my mind off it all. Maybe watch Speed or something.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Hey, forum. What would you tell two curious six-year-olds, with startlingly overactive imaginations, about what happened today?

I have no idea, but I suppose you have to tell them the truth, that sometimes people fight for what they believe in in a cowardly way and when they do they make stuff like this happen, but it's rare and the people that do these things get caught and punished.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Darryn.R:
... and the people that do these things get caught and punished.

Or, failing that, random nations get 'regime-changed' to fuck.
 
Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
 
Glad you're all ok.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Has anyone told the Big Brother Housemates?
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
[QUOTE]Or, failing that, random nations get 'regime-changed' to fuck.

Not really what you want to tell kids is it ?

Even if it is true.

It's bad enough that this stuff happens and ruins childhoods and ruins lives, leave the kids with some hope I say, just make them aware of what's going on.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Has anyone told the Big Brother Housemates?

I wondered about that. There's nothing on the official site or Digital Spy to suggest they did. I'm assuming they'll be trying to find out whether any friends or relatives have been involved, though...
 
Posted by The Stoat (Member # 813) on :
 
I've been saying for years that they should tell the BB housemates that there'd been a huge terrorist attack in Britain... it didn't occur to me that one MIGHT actually happen and they wouldn't tell them...

I'm sure that idea's occurred to other people as well, possibly including the housemates. Would they believe ANYTHING they were told, or just assume it was a game?
 
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
 
quote:
How's your boyfriend? He must be pretty shaken up.

He is fine now thanks. Was sitting on the floor drinking Jack daniels when I got in, but is now happily playing World of Warcraft. [Mad]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
BB: Would all housemates with a brother alive and well and living in London please go to the Diary Room... Hold it right there, Maxwell!
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Darryn.R:
Not really what you want to tell kids is it ?


I might tell 'em God did it.
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
Hey Amy!
 
Posted by Tom Boy (Member # 765) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:

I might tell 'em God did it.

Which one??
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Boy:
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:

I might tell 'em God did it.

Which one??
Any one. You know, just... God.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
I might tell 'em God did it.

God did it because He's angry with Mr Blair?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
I might tell 'em God did it.

Well He didn't stop it, so I guess He's at least partly responsible.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
lol ...or, 'God did it because Mr Bush keeps playing with his privates while he's watching the telly.'
 
Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by H1ppychick:
Hey Amy!

Hi.

Just passing through. Wanted to make sure everyone was alive.
 
Posted by Bailey (Member # 261) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Darryn.R:
For the sake of wanting a shout out:

Sky - you out there ? (Fish is in Africa right ?)
Bailey - you out there ?

Teflon ?

All other London based peeps ?

If anyone knows that anyone else is safe could they just pop a quick note on this thread and let us know please.

Thanks

thanks Darryn. I am fine and now back home. Emailed Sky earlier and she is okay though did say she heard a bomb (not sure where). Fish is indeed in Africa.

Packages arriving in my building were being x-rayed and security stepped up. Felt quite safe there despite the Oxford Street location. My sister was more closely affected, going to the bakerloo Edgware Rd station slightly later than usual, being evacuated from the platform and then getting on a bus. She sat on the bus for 30 mins and it barely moved. When she saw more and more police in the area she decided to get off and go home. She can see the fire engines and such at the Circle line station from her window.
 
Posted by Tom Boy (Member # 765) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Boy:
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:

I might tell 'em God did it.

Which one??
Any one. You know, just... God.
Aye, I know the score, just some bearded sulky fucker throwing toys out the pram. BOO DOWN WITH GOD
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
On Digital Spy:

Should the BB housemates be told?

They'll likely be checking friends/family at present. They're gonna have to allow a 'phoneline or something, aren't they?
 
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Amy:
quote:
Originally posted by H1ppychick:
Hey Amy!

Hi.

Just passing through. Wanted to make sure everyone was alive.

Don't be a stranger!
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
Seems the BB housemates won't be informed of events...
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
700 casualties in total, 37 confirmed dead, numbers may increase [Frown]
 
Posted by The Stoat (Member # 813) on :
 
Paddick's now saying 37 dead, but that if this rises it'll be people alive now but dying from injuries.
 
Posted by The Stoat (Member # 813) on :
 
Sorry, Uber Trick, I think we cross-posted.
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
That's ok [Smile]
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 


[ 07.07.2005, 13:47: Message edited by: H1ppychick ]
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
Mikee's still not home. He started walking from Hammersmith at 4pm. The mobile network seems to be down again too [Frown]

Hope all other forumites who are caught up in it are getting home as well as can be expected.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
great question from BBC - "muslims are communters too, aren't they?"

oops - commuters, MUTERS... damn

[ 07.07.2005, 16:00: Message edited by: Benny the Ball ]
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Benny the Ball:
communters

lol are you sure they said that Benny?!
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Did the boy Television make it back yet?
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
* wasn't saying anything really

[ 07.07.2005, 16:01: Message edited by: Benny the Ball ]
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
Yes about 30 minutes ago. I'm feeding him beer and fish and chips [Cool]
 
Posted by Sidney (Member # 399) on :
 
glad to hear you're all ok. Take care of yourselves.


over 'n' out.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
Love the way the 'Merkins are covering this. From Fox News' Fox & Friends:

quote:
KILMEADE: And he [British Prime Minister Tony Blair] made the statement, clearly shaken, but clearly determined. This is his second address in the last hour. First to the people of London, and now at the G8 summit, where their topic Number 1 --believe it or not-- was global warming, the second was African aid. And that was the first time since 9-11 when they should know, and they do know now, that terrorism should be Number 1. But it's important for them all to be together. I think that works to our advantage, in the Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together, just 500 miles from where the attacks have happened.

VARNEY: It puts the Number 1 issue right back on the front burner right at the point where all these world leaders are meeting. It takes global warming off the front burner. It takes African aid off the front burner. It sticks terrorism and the fight on the war on terror, right up front all over again.

KILMEADE: Yeah.

So, you see, every cloud has a silver-dollar lining.
 
Posted by grant (Member # 690) on :
 
We are all so totally going to die, aren't we.
 
Posted by saltrock (Member # 622) on :
 
I'm so glad everyone's ok. I've been stuck without a computer all day and I left my bloody mobile in bloody Bristol on Tuesday and didn't get it back until tonight.

Have heard from my brother who lives Central London so am very relieved as he's usually coming home on the tube around 9 am ish.

On a totally selfish note, I was supposed to be getting the train to London today to go to a meeting and cancelled it late yesterday afternoon. I'm very glad I did this.
 
Posted by The Stoat (Member # 813) on :
 
Y'know, back in "the old country", I usually like it when grant's right.

But he is, isn't he? And it's not a good thing...
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
Yes, he wins on a technicality. One day, we will all die.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Check this ****
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I clicked to enlarge photo and have been hating myself for every second since.
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
I have absolutely no idea what to say to that!
 
Posted by grant (Member # 690) on :
 
Best response I've read yet.

Just don't check the "Blogs for Bush" website unless you're really steeled today. I made that mistake after lunch and it sort of put me off everything.
 
Posted by The Stoat (Member # 813) on :
 
I forgot to eat today. I'm a-lookin' for the Blogs For Bush thing... am I making a terrible mistake?
 
Posted by The Stoat (Member # 813) on :
 
Whoah.

As long as moslems are permitted to continue killing our mothers, fathers and babies under the cover of religious protection our lives and civilization will remain imperiled. Appeasement can never work, containment is an impossible delusion, sanctions are meaningless, and declaring terrorism an enemy without specifically targeting islam is a battle of denial with no end and with no chance for success.

And, again, whoah.
 
Posted by Keef (Member # 27) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
Love the way the 'Merkins are covering this. From Fox News' Fox & Friends:

quote:
KILMEADE: And he [British Prime Minister Tony Blair] made the statement, clearly shaken, but clearly determined. This is his second address in the last hour. First to the people of London, and now at the G8 summit, where their topic Number 1 --believe it or not-- was global warming, the second was African aid. And that was the first time since 9-11 when they should know, and they do know now, that terrorism should be Number 1. But it's important for them all to be together. I think that works to our advantage, in the Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together, just 500 miles from where the attacks have happened.

VARNEY: It puts the Number 1 issue right back on the front burner right at the point where all these world leaders are meeting. It takes global warming off the front burner. It takes African aid off the front burner. It sticks terrorism and the fight on the war on terror, right up front all over again.

KILMEADE: Yeah.

So, you see, every cloud has a silver-dollar lining.
[Eek!]

Oh. My. God. Really? Is this real? Can't be. They wouldn't be that short-sighted, would they? I mean, fair enough, it was a fairly traumatic day for all involved today and for those that merely observed. 40 or more people died that shouldn't have today. But to let it govern what is discussed at the G8 summit would not only in a way, admit defeat to the terrorists in allowing them to disrupt our lives further but also take the focus off the more important, global issues of the environment and Africa's poverty. 40 people died this morning on their way to work, and I don't want to belittle that in any way, but in the same time, hundreds, if not thousands died in Africa from abject poverty.

Damn you Fox news.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Today has been surreal... at home and glued to the TV all morning, thus getting what I later realised to be a slightly 'overkilled', saturation type of view of the events, followed by hightailing it out of the house to accompany TheGree on a job interview in a shitty part of Leeds, both of us recalling the 9/11 day and the Madrid bombing, for obvious reasons... TheGree goes to her interview, and I wander around the shitty part of Leeds before settling in an empty Ramada Jarvis hotel on York Road, of all fucking places, to watch more of the TV-fest while TheGree talks plastics and compost (being s Yank she still can't pronounce the word properly), then we went and got a bit drunk on cocktails and ended up eating at the restaurant where we got married, and then came home and, er, cooked chocolate-coated rice krispies, in the nud.

That doesn't really have anything to do with all the terrible shit that was going down, but for that very reason I wanted to write it down here, y'know? I hope that makes sense.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Keef:
Oh. My. God. Really? Is this real? Can't be. They wouldn't be that short-sighted, would they?

...

Damn you Fox news.

My initial response was, "yeah well, Fox Fucking News", but I tuned in to This Week with Portillo and Abbott just in time to hear some American bloke suggesting that one benefit of this bombing is that it'll stop European governments quibbling over minutiae (like whether 9/11 had anything to do with Iraq), start agreeing again "at the highest level" (start agreeing with Bush, I think he means) and regain sufficient "political oomph" to go out there and "fight terror".

I suspect this is going to be a commoner American reaction than I'd expected...
 
Posted by The Stoat (Member # 813) on :
 
I know it's kind of crap to jump to conclusions, but...

every time they say "who do you think was behind this?" to an expert, I always want them to say:

"Who do you think? The Chuckle Brothers, obviously. ARE YOU BLIND???"
 
Posted by Travelling Canadian (Member # 491) on :
 
Hey, all you Londoners. I haven't been here forever, have been travelling back to Canada, but I wanted to check on all the TMO ers and others who are in London. Glad to see that so far everyone seems okay.
One thing I was wondering, but haven't found any information on in the news stories: did any of the Underground's tunnels get damaged? Will the Underground be able to run, or had anyone heard of damages to the walls?
 
Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :
 
good to see everyone is safe.
 
Posted by The Peter Purves cargo cult (Member # 802) on :
 
I'm really liking the idea, primarily espoused by Americans so far, that the immediate response to these attacks should be to stop wanking around with climate change and global inequality and concentrate on what matters - US foreign policy. Bless. Favourite so far was on Metafilter:

quote:
In response to the statement issued by the authors of this horror, for every fatality, the UK should send 100 additional troops to Afghanistan, and 100 additional to Iraq.
Bless.

[ 08.07.2005, 05:15: Message edited by: The Peter Purves cargo cult ]
 
Posted by turbo (Member # 593) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
Today has been surreal... at home and glued to the TV all morning, thus getting what I later realised to be a slightly 'overkilled', saturation type of view of the events, ... recalling the 9/11 day and the Madrid bombing, for obvious reasons...

I had that last night - I had to switch the telly off and just not think about it for a while. It was just too much. I had the same thing with 9/11 - the image of that plane going into the building was something I saw so often I became immune to it. This morning I woke up and felt a little strange. It took a while to remember what had happened the day before.

Now I feel mainly angry and also a little sad. London is a city I've always loved and I've spent so much time there over the years. It feels like an invasion of 'my' city. I guess this is becuase these things have always happened in places I don't know (well) and now it's come just a little too close to home.

How do all you Londonites feel today? What's the general feeling in the city?
 
Posted by Gemini (Member # 428) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by turbo:

How do all you Londonites feel today? What's the general feeling in the city?

hungover.
 
Posted by Bandy (Member # 12) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by turbo:
How do all you Londonites feel today? What's the general feeling in the city?

Slightly grotty. A few beers and a cheap curry have left me somewhat windy. Fear for my colleagues.
 
Posted by omikin (Member # 37) on :
 
.

[ 08.07.2005, 06:54: Message edited by: omikin ]
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Balhamites are going about their business as usual.

There was a moment where I overheard some woman saying to her friend "I know it's terrible isn't it" for her friend to reply "yeah, but it worked out in the end because they had them in stock at the Putney Exchange"
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Fans of fit, blood-soaked women might enjoy this story that Octavia related to me last night.

Santomonious do-gooder that she is, she went to give blood at the town hall in Oxford last night. after waiting and filling in the forms and the tests and the everything, she finally got her turn to be pricked. Apparently the nurse stuck her with a wide bore needle, but nothing happened. "Are you a little slow?" the nurse asked cryptically. They tried again and had her flexing her fists, trying to get the syringe to fill, but stone hearted bloodless Lady Macbeth that she is, nothing happened. Eventually they had to let her go. She exited the town hall and noticed that her arm had gone a bit numb and cold. Looking down at her hand she saw her hand was red with blood, spilling off her fingers and onto the town hall steps. Traiing blood back past the alarmed potential donors, she demanded to be seen again. Removing her jacket, her blouse was apparently soaked in blood, too. Apparently they'd pinned the vein in her arm, and getting her to flex her fists etc had jsut caused a massived build up. So once she was needle-free it all came spilling out down her forearms. Sweet!
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
Carrie-tastic!
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Nyyyayaaarrrgghhhhhhhh!

Finicky pinicky needle nightmare!!! I hates them. Jesus!
 
Posted by Tom Boy (Member # 765) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by turbo:

How do all you Londonites feel today? What's the general feeling in the city?

Just getting on with it really, quite pissed off that it feels like the terrorists got what they wanted by interrupting G8 and fucking with the priorities of the issues being dealt with there. Generally quite subdued, people seem to be trying to get back into a normal routine, personally I feel a degree of loss, not that I knew anyone directly affected, but this is the city I was born in and have lived in all my life its my city, the people who died or were injured are our people, my people. Anyone who was present for the Billy Connoly debate may be saying that I am back-peddling furiously from the views I expressed there and to a certain extent you would be correct but I have never felt involved in such attrocities to the extent of what I felt yesterday. Its still a bit early for me to deal with all the things this has made me feel, need a bit of time to reflect. Being at work as usual both yesterday and today isnt really helping with the surreality of it all. I think the general response is "They've hurt us, yes killed some of us even, but the WE, the US (not U.S but us) survived and will continue to survive." Just reading back over this and I sound like some patriotic arse, but I am proud of the resiliance shown by Londoners and those who work in the city.
 
Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :
 
its a wierd one over here.
they're talking about "will this force the UK government out of iraq".
well?
will we? will it make much difference?
the news over here is how "we need to strengthen our targets again". that "we can't defend everything all the time" "we need to be more vigilant".
and that it suddenly seems ok to be scared again.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by doc d:
"will this force the UK government out of iraq". well? will it make much difference?

Sadly not. It's just the sort of thing which makes us determined "nev-uh to surren-duh".

 -

[Mad]
 
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
Sadly not. It's just the sort of thing which makes us determined "nev-uh to surren-duh".
[Mad]

Withdrawal plans had already been drafted. Can't see that the events of yesterday will do much to alter the timetable.
 
Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :
 
typical, everyone shows up to the party and then when there's cleaning up to be done they leg it as quickly as possible. nobody wants the bin bags full of puke and broken glass.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
 -
 
Posted by Travelling Canadian (Member # 491) on :
 
That's a lovely sign, misc. Where was the picture taken?
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Travelling Canadian:
That's a lovely sign, misc. Where was the picture taken?

Just outside the Seventh Day Church of the Mormon Scientologist Army of Jesus Hostel for Recovering Psychos, I believe.
 
Posted by turbo (Member # 593) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
Just outside the Seventh Day Church of the Mormon Scientologist Army of Jesus Hostel for Recovering Psychos, I believe.

They're a lovely lot. Very warm and affectionate.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Travelling Canadian:
That's a lovely sign, misc. Where was the picture taken?

*
quote:
After the bombings in London I went for a walk into town, where I found this sign outside a resteraunt in Covent Garden...


[ 12.07.2005, 05:21: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
In today's Meedja Guardian, Gary Younge reports on US newspapers getting all of a jitter about "Londonistan":

quote:
London has become a "feeding ground for hate" and a "crossroads for would-be terrorists" where Muslims exploit civil liberties to "openly preach jihad"
Apparently, our police are so afraid of "upsetting Muslims" that we've become a hotbed of Islamic fundamentalism which threatens global security.

quote:
"London is easily the most jihadist hub in western Europe," Roger Cressy, a former White House counterterrorism official, told the Los Angeles Times. "London has been an indoctrination and recruiting centre for many years," Michael Radu, a terrorism expert at the Foreign Policy Research Institute in Philadelphia, told the Philadelphia Tribune.

In the Wall Street Journal, the former head of the State Department's counter-terrorism centre, Larry Johnson, said Britain had been too squeamish about respecting Muslims' rights.

As a result, argues Peter Bergen, a fellow of the New America Foundation, British Muslims pose "one of the greatest terrorist threats to the United States".

It seems we have the wrong sort of democracy. Can we now expect to be regime-changed back to the Stone Age?
 
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
 
Now I'm the first to admit that my spelling and grammar can be a bit....creative...but surely there is something very wrong with this?

quote:
most jihadist hub

 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Abby:
Now I'm the first to admit that my spelling and grammar can be a bit....creative...but surely there is something very wrong with this?

quote:
most jihadist hub

Indeed - "most jihadist" should read "jihadistest".
 
Posted by The H Pony (Member # 784) on :
 
xx

[ 12.07.2005, 08:44: Message edited by: The H Pony ]
 
Posted by The H Pony (Member # 784) on :
 
Jihad does seem to have made the crossover from noun to adjective quite happily - Teh Times is using it too. How long before it's a verb as well.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
Londonistan too dangerous for US military, apparently.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Fucking pussies.
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Bombs going off in Spain

This one's ETA though.

[ 12.07.2005, 09:18: Message edited by: SilverGinger5 ]
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ganesh:
Londonistan too dangerous for US military, apparently.

That's not true any more
 
Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Fortunately it looks like Omarion was OK. Probably best to pray for him anyway, just in case he's there or something.
 
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
I heard on the radio this morning that some sort of raids were taking place in Leeds in connection to the London bombings, but that was about the extent of detail given. Which led me to think along these lines:

1. Even as someone who probably can't say "yorkshire" properly, I think some punishment should be meted out against newscasters who repeatedly say it was "y-ark-sh-EYE-er".

and,

2. Wonder what Mart is up to at the moment?
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SilverGinger5:
Fortunately it looks like Omarion was OK. Probably best to pray for him anyway, just in case he's there or something.

Terror can strike anywhere. I think we need a constant vigil for Omarion.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Also, aren't muslims being polite at the moment?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Has Bush ordered a massive nukuler strike against London, just to be safe?

If not, then what the hell has happened to all the TMOites?
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
It's going on in south Leeds, where poor people live; we're in north-east Leeds, where everyone's posh and nice and wouldn't do that sort of thing.
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
So nobody on here knows anybody who was hurt or killed? A friend of a friend is still missing, presumed dead. It's very sad.
 
Posted by Ganesh (Member # 685) on :
 
I know someone who was hurt, yes. Why?
 
Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
It's going on in south Leeds, where poor people live; we're in north-east Leeds, where everyone's posh and nice and wouldn't do that sort of thing.

thats not leeds. its skipton.
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
Why? I wasn't trying to be ghoulish, I was just suprised that, considering quite a few of us live in London, with all the extended friendship networks that that implies, nobody on here knew anybody who'd been hurt.
 
Posted by Modge (Member # 64) on :
 
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[ 12.07.2005, 18:41: Message edited by: Modge ]
 
Posted by Meg (Member # 444) on :
 
Further proof that the BNP are total fuckheads, if any were needed.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
Bizarrely, I know someone who was on one of the trains. The father of one of the other kids in my son's class at school, just happened to be in London on the wrong day. He was up the other end of the train though.

Of course, he would normally have been in the exact carriage where the bomb went off, but he had a weird urge to go in a different carriage on that morning. [Roll Eyes] I imagine Death is stalking him right now, cheated of an expected soul. If anyone sees Death wandering around, peering at an A-Z and looking a bit lost, give me a call. I'll drop him off right outside the door.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
Interesting to note that the death penalty for treason was only abolished 7 years ago, in 1998. Dunno what the punishment is now though, and the bombers appear to have killed themselves anyway, but they might catch someone else that was involved down the line somewhere.

A public hanging, drawing and quartering would probably draw huge crowds and get London's tourism industry back on its feet instantly.
 
Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
A public hanging, drawing and quartering would probably draw huge crowds and get London's tourism industry back on its feet instantly.

If they caught more than one, they could save one for the Olympic opening ceremony. To Make A Statement To The Terrorists.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
These google ads are working spot on. There's a link above to help thank Tony Blair for his support in Iraq. Bless.

If we talk about gay shit-eating priests enough do you think we'll get some excellent links?
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
We should revive the Sex and Relationships forum as an experiment and see what sort of ads turn up...
 
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
 
I thought it was 'Say Thankyou To NY'. Fuck you, I thought. What have those fucking east-coasters ever done for us?
 
Posted by Bandy (Member # 12) on :
 
That say thanks to tony site is pretty good. I also like this one:

Arabs
Quality new and used items. Find arabs now!
www.ebay.com
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
These google ads are working spot on. There's a link above to help thank Tony Blair for his support in Iraq. Bless.

LOL

You've got to read these. Some of them are priceless.

Example:

quote:
I offer my sincerest thanks, and most profound apology. When you rose to office, I held you in low regard due to your apparent friendship with the previous occupant of the Oval Office.

In the years since, I have come to realize that your friendship was with the U.S., and would not be dissipated by a temporary lapse in our voters' judgement. As such, I must now proclaim that, contrary to my previously held views, you are at least half the man that Maggie Thatcher was!

Thanks again from the father of a U.S. soldier.

- Florida, USA
-------------------


Thanks for uniting with the U.S. in the Iraq conflict. You took a lot of heat for that. We appreciate you.

YOU ROCK!

- California, USA
-------------------


Thank you, Prime Minister Blair, for your unwavering and principled stand. You actually did something to improve mankind's lot, striking a blow against brutality and for human rights (while critics at home and abroad vented hot air).

You have our heartfelt thanks, Mr. Blair.

P.S. On a lighter note: My wife has shifted her home decorating tastes from French Country to English Country in the aftermath of the war.

- California, USA


 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Maybe now's the time to make the carrying of weapons legal in London? That way, if you saw some creep looking jumpy on the tube and fiddling with his rucksack you could take the fucker out.
 
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
 
I think we should beat the fuckers to it and blow the underground to bits. Then blow up the buses. That'll learn them.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
BBC News saying the fourth bomber was a Jamaican-born UK resident!

When I was scanning around the radio for news last Thursday I came across Radio 2 which was playing "reassuring" stuff like Bob Marley's Three Little Birds - Don't worry, 'bout a thing, cos every little thing's gonna be alright.

(Just to balance Jamaica's contribution to the incident.)
 
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
Don't worry. I'm sure the U.S. military are poised to invade and 'liberate' the resorts of Jamaica to preempt any further incidents of this nature. Operation Club Med, natrually.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
The police haven't confirmed that these guys died in the blasts. They could've just left ID in their rucksacks with the bombs, while they made good their escapes. They could still be out there. With more bombs.
 
Posted by omikin (Member # 37) on :
 
good old masko.
 
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
 
Was the Jamaican the one that was late and stuck on the bus?
 
Posted by discodamage (Member # 66) on :
 
please forgive me if i have a vision of jim davidson doing chalky with a rucksack on his back.
 
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
 
In my office, this woman has been blaming the bombings on the illegal immigrants, saying that they want to turn this country into an Islamic state. I thought she would shut the fuck up when it came out that they were British born, but no...illegal immigrants made them do it.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Is this new evidence that it's morally sound to punch people in the side of the head? In the temples?
 
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
 
She once claimed that the price of bread has gone up because of illegal immigrants. It's scary how much she believes this. I argued with her that her belief in these sort of scare stories is a fruit from the same tree that leads young men to blow themselves up, but I just got a blank look.

To be fair, blank is her normal expression.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Roy:
She once claimed that the price of bread has gone up because of illegal immigrants.

Perhaps she thinks pidgeons are illegal immigrants.

"They come over here with their 'wings' and 'feathers', stealing our bread..."

[Mad]
 
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
 
Does that make Red Ken a bit of Nazi with his 'Trafalgar Solution'?

[ 15.07.2005, 09:23: Message edited by: Roy ]
 
Posted by Fionnula the Cooler (Member # 453) on :
 
In the local Cancer Research charity shop yesterday, when the foreign-speaking Muslim family left, the women who work on the till began describing how they'd pile all the immigrants onto "one big boat" and send them back where they came from. Charity shop workers, FFS! They are supposed to be KIND. And they're the fuckers who think four pounds is a fair price for a grotty old Wordsworth Classics paperback which you could buy for half the price brand new. Twatting charity shops.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fionnula the Cooler:
In the local Cancer Research charity shop yesterday, when the foreign-speaking Muslim family left, the women who work on the till began describing how they'd pile all the immigrants onto "one big boat" and send them back where they came from.

It'd have to be one very, very big boat, wouldn't it?

quote:

Charity shop workers, FFS! They are supposed to be KIND.

They are kind... to the True English!

Facts:
All illegal immigrants are poor.
All poor people visit charity shops.
All charity shop workers are old people.
All old people are racist.

It's not a good situation!

[ 15.07.2005, 09:36: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
 
Has anyone just received a random email saying that the Met are almost certain there will be another Tube attack soon?
 
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
 
No, but I got one saying that Bluewater will be a target this weekend.

Please, Allah...

Actually, that Met Commisioner chap was on the radio this morning and he said that although there is every possible that there are more attacks planned - as there have been for the past few years - they have no definate information about any particular target.
 
Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:

Facts:
All illegal immigrants are poor.
All poor people visit charity shops.
All charity shop workers are old people.
All old people are racist.

It's not a good situation!

But it could just as well be a viable premise for a reality television series, no?

[theme music]

We've taken poor illegal immigrants and racist elderly thrift store workers and put them in a sealed storefront. Last week, we watched as Lucy beaned Hameed with a dusty kettle. What will happen tonight?

[/theme music]
 
Posted by statist (Member # 806) on :
 
I worked in a charity shop as part of the New Deal. It was ultra shit. Thanx Tony.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by statist:
I worked in a charity shop as part of the New Deal.

Bag any 'leegs?
 
Posted by statist (Member # 806) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Bag any 'leegs?

Yeah. One of the advantages of working in a charity shop is you get first pick of everything that comes through the door.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
A charity shop around the corner from me had a copy of Rubber Soul, vinyl, in the window last week for £45. It's gone now.
 


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