Ennui. Depression. The dull pain as boredom kicks you in the kidneys once again. Everybody goes there from time to time. We've already seen that Ralph and Jack are ordering shots of pity in the jazz cafe of deflation. But, we all bounce back, to grin again. How do we do it? In the face of the grinding truths of life, we can still find something to cling on to. Thr0n has already investigated our long term aspirational life vests, that keep us afloat after the mind tsunami washes away our tin shacks of optimism. But, what about immediate relief? The initial aid effort?
So far in this program, we've learned that H1ppy indulges herself by thinking of me in the bath. Roy thinks of Ray Winstone. Ben constructs elaborate murderous fantasies that he whispers into the ear of his childe, as it sleeps by candlelight under the thunderous and unforgiving Northern Sky. But, what are your coping mechanisms? You've had a bad day - maybe a bad week, and it's time to bum rush the happy show. How do you do it?
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
mostly i drink and forget things. at lunch i discovered i have videophone of two female friends snogging last night. i don't remember this happening, let alone filming it. and actually it is depressing me more, teh video, though i am not entirely sure why.
so yeah that wasn't much help.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
thre are some helpful solutions to the left of this page.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
I used to drink a lot and wallow in self pity. Now that I no longer drink, I post crap on discussion boards and wallow in self pity.
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
Cocaine helps. The comedown can be a bitch but hey, just take more. Problem solved.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
booze and drugs then. You guys don't deserve to happy.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
The ridiculous answer is to get drunk. Ridiculous, not just because it makes one slur their words and believe clumsy, half-finished sentences are the height of intellectualism and humour, but because, short of a four day amphetamine bender, it's about the worst thing one can do if they're depressed. Not that any of that stops me.
Exercise really is a great solution. Going for a run, going to the gym, knocking down a wall with a sweaty, panting Fionulla the Cooler, that's the way to perk yourself up. Unfortunately, two of those three are fucking boring and it's difficult to find the motivation to huff and puff in the YMCA when you're already feeling a bit depressed.
Drinking lots of water is also good. This is very immediate. It won't deal with depression but when I'm dehydrated, my head dries up like conscious sponge and I become a madder. I never used to need water to get through the day but in the last five years I've started acting like that Strangelove character - it's my lifeblood. I still forget to drink it, though. It doesn't taste nice, it doesn't do anything exciting (like Scotch) so I rarely think "ooh, I'd love a nice glass of water." But when I'm low, when I'm drifting into the realm of the unwell, a pint of water works wonders. I can actually feel my brain re-hydrating and normality washing over me again.
Doing exercise goes hand in hand with drinking water, so it should be a no brainer really. It's just difficult to practice what you preach.
In the longer term, it's surprising how a few small goals achieved can tip the balance away from the pit of despair. Even if those achievements are pretty insignificant - tidying the flat, paying a credit card bill - they still make a difference and can help lift a mood.
I do it all of the ways above.
Posting on TMO when you have a mountain of work and a deadline looming does not fit nicely into this philosophy.
[ 27.10.2005, 10:30: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: booze and drugs then. You guys don't deserve to happy.
i know
[ 27.10.2005, 09:58: Message edited by: vikram ]
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
dp
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Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
zoloft
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
darryn, have you got experience of buying 'meds' (not C1@l15 or V1Agr@) from dodgy online pharmacies?
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
What does ralph and his work buddies do in their lunchbreak?
[ 27.10.2005, 10:03: Message edited by: Roy ]
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
Make fun of Roy's lame posts.
[ 27.10.2005, 10:17: Message edited by: ralph ]
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
Roy, dp means either double penetration (as in two cocks at once) or double post (as in posted the same message twice)
Not really Benway, I get my meds from the good doctors here in Holland, why are you after something in particular ? I have in the past had stuff shipped in from the states where it's available over the counter without hassle.
Stuff like Zoloft and Prozac are available, but they're things you have to take 'long term' to really see any benefits and with online guys charging $77.46 for 30 tablets (a months supply) it's not cheap either.
Plus you need to know about dosage and side effects, I took Seroxsat for a while and it gave me priapism so you need to watch out, miserable, erect and unable to spooge is not a good combination
[ 27.10.2005, 10:08: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
Posted by Kira (Member # 826) on :
Oh Roy
Posted by Kira (Member # 826) on :
lol at you editing that
quote: What does ralph and his work buddies do in their lunchbreak?
Roy the TMO 'enquirer'
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
Seroxat? I've shit em. I was thinking more like 'anxiety' drugs, ie ones that you can take to get wasted.
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
valium totally fucks you up, especially if you mix with drinks.
drugs are bad okay. you should, um, i dunno. think happy thoughts. think of poland!
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
If you want to get wasted isn't it better to buy proper (illegal) drugs?
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
i think benway should take up smoking heroin.
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
You want Jellies Benway ?
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by vikram: i think benway should take up smoking heroin.
Take it from me. This does not cure depression.
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
he's not scottish!
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
Being addicted to heroin would certainly give him a reason for living. Get up, rob old dear, buy drug, lie down, get up... etc. It's a hobby...
I find solace from the everyday grind of sameness and disappointment in stroking my pussy, pottering in the garden, and double penetration.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
quote:Originally posted by ralph: Take it from me. This does not cure depression.
It does if you take enough.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
quote:Originally posted by Darryn.R: You want Jellies Benway ?
that kind of thing.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
If it isn't too personal a question Benway, do you want jellies to sort your shit out or for recreational getting fuckedness?
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
getting fucked, mostly.
But, this isn't a conversation for now, sorry TMO.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Hey look! I'm the only person who's made an effort to answer Benway's PF properly. Ain't no gibberish fool now. I'm a straight shooter!
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
Seriously, I wouldn't go the benzodiazepines route, they fuck you up and are hard to stop.
I recon you could get the easy enough online though, somewhere like http://www.crazymeds.org should be able to help you find a pharmacist if you really wanted to.
[ 27.10.2005, 10:29: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
When I was a lad, me and a friend took some valium. For some reason, we then decided to do some shoplifting. Being as valium and theft are not natural companions, we got nicked.
We were both in the policestation trying really hard to get worried about it - our parents were called etc - but we just couldn't. We sat opposite each other saying 'My Dad's gonna kill me' with no conviction whatsover.
So Valium: Bad for doing crime, good for not worrying the consequences of crime.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by jonesy999: Hey look! I'm the only person who's made an effort to answer Benway's PF properly. Ain't no gibberish fool now. I'm a straight shooter!
Not really. His original question was How do you do it?. You merely listed a bunch of ways it can be done. You never once tell us how you do it.
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
quote:Originally posted by jonesy999: Hey look! I'm the only person who's made an effort to answer Benway's PF properly. Ain't no gibberish fool now. I'm a straight shooter!
Not true, I am on Zoloft, I'm having quite a rough time mentally at the moment.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Crazymeds.org? Excellent! Fills you with confidence. Though I suppose it's no worse than meeting a guy called Slim at Marble Arch.
Dear police, the name and location in this post have been changed to protect the guilty
[ 27.10.2005, 10:33: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
sorry to hear that fella.
[ 27.10.2005, 10:29: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
No biggy Benway, I've been worse, but thanks.
*I do hope this admission of mind doesn't kill the thread.
[ 27.10.2005, 10:35: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
ralph, you're right. I've remedied my mistake so my comments still stand.
And Dazzler, keep on trucking.
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
Alcohol, stupid comedy films involving as much crude humour as possible, and violent video games, these, for me, are some of the best things for lightening your mood and relieving some of the frustration/misery of life. I went through a lengthy period recently of just feeling really low, depressed and fed up, waking up and wondering what my motivation for actually getting out of bed was and the like, without ever really knowing why. Thankfully it now seems to have passed and I'm feeling a lot more positive.
Alcohol definitely isn't a substitute for happiness though, it just results in late night admissions of innermost angst and fear, and the resulting embarassment the next time yo have to meet the person you 'spilled' to, something I have way too much experience of.
Posted by Kira (Member # 826) on :
How is it teh levellers put it....
'Chemically free' or not as the case may be in this forum...
Cipralex are prescribed for anxiety Benway...
Posted by Kira (Member # 826) on :
Although I'd just like to point out without trying to sound all handbag and mumsy but you would be better getting these from your doctor rather than somewhere dodgy online...
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
Oh and Darryn, only a few weeks now and you, me and Wayne can get horrendously drunk at the B&W and air-guitar to AC/DC again, if that doesn't cheer you up nothing will!
Seriously though dude, hope all's well, don't forget to let me know your list of desireables for bringing over..
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
yeah totally physic.
i remember being in some cafebar with a mate and we were half-heartedly trying to pull these girls and i ended up launching into a tirade about how i wanted to find god, to find something, but i just couldn't believe and how that made me sick. then i began cursing the god that i can't quite believe in.
alcohol is very bad and not recommended. i think exercise is good. cooking too - creative yummy. maybe join a swim class or yoga or something.
[ 27.10.2005, 10:37: Message edited by: vikram ]
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
I'm not really anxious at the moment, I should point out. It's more like low level fear of everything. I'm not quite dropping baskets of fruit in the aisles at my supermarket, falling to my knees to pick them up, getting angry, but then hunching over and sobbing "It's no use...it's no use" while gazing at two ripe grapefruit in my skeletal hands. Not yet.
Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
I've been a bit down of late. Its mainly due to living in this pit. It just seems no matter what I do, I get nowhere. Like walking down the escalator the wrong way. My job is going nowhere fast and I detest my boss. The pay is awful. Just awful. All my friends moved away while I was in the UK and it seems so much harder to get to know people here that it was over in London. It seems I am about to loose my home and my parents have just split up. Also, it hasn't rained here since November last year (seriously). Oh, and we all have AIDS.
So. On Saturday I went to the chinese warehouse pirate haven and picked up a few dozen DVDs (for 10 of your EnglishPounds) and went home to spend a happy weekend watching the Alien movies and perhaps Band of Brothers. I closed the curtains, got all my snacks together and settled down on the couch to watch.
Unfortunately, about halfway through Alien, I was rudely interupted by a man at my gate asking if there was any work. He had the sickness (the AIDS), he had no job, no money for food or medicine and he had such a pitiful, desperate look in his eyes. It really was fucking heart breaking. Anyway I told him we didnt have any work and sent him on his way. After the little angel on my shoulder crapped me out a bit I chased after the guy and gave him all the money I had in my wallet. The guy was on the verge of tears, it was quite embarassing really. Also quite stupid of me to do because it was the absolute last bit of cash I had for the month. But I did the right thing and its made me feel a whole lot better about myself all week.
So if you feel down just be fucking lucky you aren't that poor bastard who is walking down dusty roads in 42 degree heat looking for work when he is almost too sick to stand.
Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
Fuck, that was horrible. Sorry TMO. Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
Man, now I'm depressed.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
quote:squeegy
Fuck, that was horrible. Sorry TMO.
I thought it was the best post you've ever made.
It wasn't Rainbow Bright happy, like, but it made me want to give to charity and stop worrying about my little problems.
[ 27.10.2005, 10:47: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
Nothing wrong with a bit of perspective Squeegy, and you're quite right, the most annoying thing for me about feeling depressed is that I have nothing of any consequence to be depressed about truth be told, compared to many I have it fucking good, crazy.
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
i was going to post something really pathetic, but instead i think i will go and buy a flapjack and talk to the bristol volunteer centre about doing something that will a) distract me for maybe 13 and a half minutes from my own dreadful solipsism, and b) make a difference. to anything.
cheers squeege.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
I reckon that VOP has got one over on you too, squeegy That sounds awful.
I had a moment like that other day. I gave ten pounds to this crying pregnant homeless woman, and tried to talk to her about the kind of options that are available to her (because that's the sector that I work in), but she was crying and thanking me and calling me sir, and it just brought me down, so I had to strangle her right there, and nobody noticed.
Okay, I didn't strangle her,but the rest is true. Posted by Vanilla Online Persona (Member # 301) on :
I beat my blues away with violent exercise and bullying. I try to go rugby training at least once a week, we were doing spear-tackling last week, so you know, bit of bruising, umpteen hilarious willy impressions in the showers and a few pints with the lads. At least twice a week I do some form of martial arts, kick-boxing usually - a few rounds of sparring will certainly get the blood and brain pulsing again. My sparring partner is just shy of 7' and has a great body. He's fucking enormous which means I really have to work hard to get in close and hold onto him. When we're shattered we have a long hot shower and go for a pint.
All this exercise usually means I'm full of endorphins most of the time, if I do have a fleeting fit of The Downs I generally abuse one of my work colleagues. One in particular. He works really hard and is fairly competant, but a slogger - you know what I mean. He's actually quite thick so it gives me great pleasure to undermine his confidence in any way I can. It's a tortoise and hare kindothang, though he's not in bad shape. I asked him if he wanted to take a shower with me last week but I think it may have confused him. I think he might be a Gay.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
quote:Originally posted by jonesy999:
quote:squeegy
Fuck, that was horrible. Sorry TMO.
I thought it was the best post you've ever made.
It wasn't Rainbow Bright happy, like, but it made me want to give to charity and stop worrying about my little problems.
agreed
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
Poor squeegy.
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
quote:Originally posted by Vanilla Online Persona: My sparring partner is just shy of 7' and has a great body. He's fucking enormous which means I really have to work hard to get in close and hold onto him.
maybe ive just been lucky but i would call 7' you know, generous. pleasantly sufficient. but not 'enormous'. unless you know, theres something youre not telling us about the girth.
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
never let it be said that margarita doesnt know when a cock joke is inappropriate to the tone of the thread.
Posted by Vanilla Online Persona (Member # 301) on :
ed: because I realised I'd been hit with a surprise nob gag from the side
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Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
who stevied that joke worst, really, was it me or vop?
Posted by Vanilla Online Persona (Member # 301) on :
Stop it DM, we're supposed to be cheering Ben Wai up.
Oi BenWai - homosexuality, the only way to go when you're already down there.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
this thread, for once, isn't about me.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Let's have a whip round for squeegy.
[ 27.10.2005, 11:14: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
I can spare a few bob.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
Dot Rowe says depression is based on fear of yourself, of abandonment, of failure, etc. If you forgive yourself, and everybody else, it goes away. It's as easy as that. (!) And only people who worry about being 'good' get depressed. So you may be sad, but at least you're not a shit.
[stevie x] isn't 7", not 7', seven inches?[/stevie x]
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Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
Shucks, thanks guys. But no need to waste sympathy on me. All things concidered I am surprisingly upbeat.
Posted by Vanilla Online Persona (Member # 301) on :
What a bunch of moaney fecks you lot are. Bluddy Nora, there are times and people for whom depression and self-doubt are not upsetting symptoms but bluddy good common sense.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
quote:Originally posted by squeegy: Shucks, thanks guys. But no need to waste sympathy on me. All things concidered I am surprisingly upbeat.
Squeegy is some kind of uber-upbeat generosity superman.
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Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
quote:Originally posted by herbs: And only people who worry about being 'good' get depressed. So you may be sad, but at least you're not a shit.
Well now Im fucking depressed. And worried about not being worried about being 'good'.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Herbs am Kryptonite.
Posted by rooster (Member # 738) on :
I’ll answer the question all proper-like:
Things that cheer me up in the short term: Watching a favorite TV program. Buying stuff. Eating Dublin Mudslide ice cream. Eating healthy yummy salad. Hugs.
Yes, exercise does do wonders, but I found it has the best sadness-fighting effects when it’s part of the routine. When I knew every day at x hour I would get away to the gym for an hour or two I would gear up for it and crave it so that when I was there it was scratching an itch. Sweat, steam room, shower and emerge pink cheeked and invigorated with health exuding from my pores in a contagious fashion. Made me smile, made me more attractive (and not just from obvious body improving) and yes, made me happier.
Now am depressed that I can’t do that anymore Will have more reason to pressure froopy into finishing home gym - though not sure if that will do the trick as it’s getting away to gym that was the big deal.
Finding people worse off than you is good too, but they don’t have to be real people. I was in a serious funk two and a half years ago when boyfriend and I were "on a break". I watched all the episodes of "Sex and the City" back to back for a week straight. It made me feel much better that these women who were a decade plus older than me were no closer to finding true love, marriage and family than I was. (Luckily season six where they all find true love, marriage and family wasn’t out yet).
Posted by Vanilla Online Persona (Member # 301) on :
Ahhh Dublin Mudslide - that'll do it... mmmmmm
Posted by Vanilla Online Persona (Member # 301) on :
thats an Irish gay bar right?
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
*Get off! Rubbish!* Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Honestly, he seemed funnier at the fringe. Posted by rooster (Member # 738) on :
Last time I actually answer one of these. Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: I'm not quite dropping baskets of fruit in the aisles at my supermarket, falling to my knees to pick them up, getting angry, but then hunching over and sobbing "It's no use...it's no use" while gazing at two ripe grapefruit in my skeletal hands. Not yet.
How does someone manage to make such lol-inducing cynical stabs at life and still manage to be so miserable?
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
I don't understand, Rooster. It's just a couple of crap jokes. I don't think they're supposed to be any reflection on the merits of your post.
I'm tempted to say "don't be depressed" but that would be three crap jokes.
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
Taken from the first in my forthcoming thirty booklet series. Available for christmas £4.99 each
Note: tested only on males, research shows 90% of females employ this method subconciously.
1. Go to pants drawer.
2. Throw away all pants that comply with the following descriptions
a) Old b) Too tight c) Holey d) Stained e) Mystery f) Star wars related g) Weird h) Put in wrong wash cycle last time i) Buttons missing j) Y-front k) Yellow l) Funny (not haha but funny peculiar) m) Funny haha n) "Lucky" o) "Unlucky" p) Lycra q) Dad's r) Writing on front s) Writing on arse t) Mum's u) 70's v) Spiderman related w) Jock strap x) Thermal y) Thong z) Mesh
3. Now if you are like 92.5% of males you will 1 pair of pants left. Yes. The one's you are wearing... and let's face it they really should be in the bin bag too shouldn't they?
4. Right.
5. Take a deep breath, this is going to hurt.
6. what....?
7. Oh yeah breathe out...for fucks sake!
8. Throw all pants away. Preferably burn them. Note wear a pair of Y-fronts on your head to comply with tradition if you take the burning route.
9. Now go to shops
10. Buy at least 7 pairs of new pants. IMPORTANT: do not go for cheapest. You should try and buy at least 3 pairs of "expensive" Calvin Clein type trunks all in matching colour - White or black DO NOT DEVIATE FROM THESE COLOURS.
11. Yes I know they're expensive since the last time your mum bought them. This is therapy, it's expensive, get used to it. BUY THE NEW PANTS.
12. go home
13. Put new pants in pant drawer.
14. Gaze upon them for about 5 minutes
15. Go downstairs, eat dinner.
16. Go back to pant drawer, gaze upon it.
17. Watch a bit of TV, or play playstation or something I don't know - freestyle.
18. Go to bed. Gaze upon pant drawer again.
19. Get up choose BRAND NEW PANTS
20. Feel good. Those pants are "snug" huh? Feel real nice yeh? Today will be a good day.
[ 28.10.2005, 06:02: Message edited by: not... ]
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
lol! That's a fucking plan, man.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Freudtastic advice. I'm going to pant myself up tomorrow and take on the world....one day at a time....in clean pants.
Monday: Half moon some chicks. Tuesday: Launderette. Levis shit. Wednesday: Attract kittens..."lovely softy, come Kitty [PAT PAT]." Thursday: Get run over. "What have you got to say to that, Doc?" Friday: Clean CD collection. "Shaky bum, shaky bum." Saturday: Sexus with song. "He's Fresh...frisshhhh.....exciting...he's so exciting to me. Down you go into cotton town. Oh yeah!" Sunday: Chill on Sunday...in pants.
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Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
It worked for me it can work for you!
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
*ding* Time gentlemen.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
Quarter past five Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
quote:Originally posted by jonesy999: Thursday: Get run over. "What have you got to say to that, Doc?"
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
I get down and depressed a lot - mainly because of things like compound interest. I always avoid buying anything when down as I the little consumer buzz goes away too quickly and I'm left with a horrible sense of guilt and dread of not having the rent. I tried comfort eating (someone I know is very into anonymous meetings, replacing one addiction for another - groups sessions etc) and he is always banging on about how I 'eat my feelings', but again, the feeling goes, the horror of packing a whole 8 pack of tunnocks waffers into my mouth hits me, and I'm back to square one. Excercise is a great option, plus I find making a fruit salad really good help, not just the actual eating of it, the making myself go out, buy fruit - and just fruit - and then coming home to chop it all up and prepare it, is great for lifting the spirits. Watching old favourites on DVD, reading, looking at the few forums I visit - all help.
Posted by Jack Vincennes (Member # 814) on :
quote:Originally posted by vikram: cooking too - creative yummy.
Yes, lots and lots of cooking, preferably baking because the results of that usually outlast the sad mood. And whilst it's kind of (actually, exactly) like comfort eating, the fact that you've actually done something to get the comfort food makes it feel slightly more virtuous.
Posted by jnhoj (Member # 286) on :
Food sleep wank!
I'm rarely unahappy though, I put this down to furious masturbation.
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
I just spent about 45 minutes looking for images of y-fronts THANKS TMO!
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