If there was a real fight club somewhere in London, would you?
There probably is. It strikes me as something city boys might establish. If I can dig up some details, who wants to join? Are any of you man, woman or child enough to want to grapple with strangers in some underground space, under harsh car park lighting, in Peckham perhaps?
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
If I was a big tough man I probably would, as there is something undeniably thrilling about physical combat, but I'm a spakky little runt that would be pwned within seconds.
Posted by Honeybaby (Member # 543) on :
Your alter ego may not be though. Don't you feel the urge to destroy something beautiful. (Or improve upon something ugly.)
It would have to be RL fighting though, as with cyber-fighting, unlike cyber-sex, I'd have thought it's difficult to tell when you're finished?
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
I've been going to boxing lessons for a while now with a friend who is really into all this combat stuff. He wants to take me to another gym where they teach you how to fight against people with knives and stuff, which sounds a bit too 'weekend warrior' for me. Anyway, the missus has banned me from going to these things until after the wedding, in case I get my face battered up and look like one of those drug testers.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
Benway I reckon you'd do really well in Barnet Fight Club. Just something from my experience of you dancing at the Metro makes me imagine you to be the sort to go straight after work, tie comes off, shirt unbuttoned, ready to ruck. Fucking up people by smashing their glasses into their faces or hurling fat men around by their braces. Sure, you'd get a proper pounding by the big guys but not before seeing the sun down on some portly bankers or the guy at the hot dog stand first. I can imagine it, by eight o clock when the big contenders come in. You'd be sucking on a roll up, sleeves rolled up and collar caked in sweat and blood and you'd be smiling. You'd be smiling the same way you do when you look at a picture of Darryn and Beckett, except you'd be being hoofed right in the solar plexus in slow motion and you'd be dropping to your knees with a giant doped grin on your face. The camera would pan in just as slowly as the footage was being played and the audience would view a bulbous tear rolling out from the corner of your eye, gently pointed by the finger of your joyous smiling lips.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
The allure of pummeling someone to a bloody pulp is great indeed, and I think I'd be quite good at it depending on the opponent, but I'd be very much afraid of damaging my beautiful face. Without my face I'm nothing.
[ 16.03.2006, 11:22: Message edited by: ralph ]
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
We could be a tag-team, ralph. I reckon we'd take anyone on here.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
Sounds good to me. Are you a big guy, Roy? Can you handle yourself?
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
It's a nice idea, but I'm really not that good at fighting. I never really shone at the Kung Fu, and only a month or so ago, one of vikram's mates punched me in the face until I had a bleeding nose and lip, yet I was unable to even put his hair style in danger. But I can see the appeal of fighting, especially drunk fighting where you can't feel pain as much. I wouldn't want to lose any teeth though.
Sorry if I hurt you with my dancing, mickey.
[ 16.03.2006, 11:24: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
You've never been a victim to the 'Maul' which is basically where Physic spins me around by my legs while I wear a spiked crash helmet.
There's a slightly deadlier but sexier version which is exactly the same but you remove the word 'crash' from the sentence above.
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
why did vikram's mate punch you in the face, benway?
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
quote:Originally posted by dance margarita: why did vikram's mate punch you in the face, benway?
We could have an 'answers on a postcard to..' competition for this.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
just hijinks.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
How many people here have actually really been been punched really hard in the face, though? It's all very well saying "Yeah, I'd be up for it", but the one time I got in a real fight (against six other people - I didn't win) it was miserable and painful. I sort of see where the exhiliration of physical combat comes in - I do like a really good moshpit, for example, but when some actually slugs you right in the face as hard as they can it pretty much starts and ends the fight in one blow.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
After the Christmas meat 2005 we went to the Metro and we danced like it was, well we danced like it was not the Metro but a really cool bar in 1978. Benway bit me so hard on the shoulder that it left a purple bite mark and a yellow shoulder patch. So to make up for it I danced in the legendary style of 'grab your partner by the neck and shake to the beat of the music'
We did exactly the same thing when JohnJ came to London, except Benway only stopped dancing to tell a girl that he would 'fucking have her' but I had gone home because I couldn't stop throwing up for the night.
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
Thorn, how did you end up in a fight with six people?
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Yeah. Was it anything to do with Snow White?
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: How many people here have actually really been been punched really hard in the face, though?
It happened to me. Some post-pub psycho was after my Ginsters and when I said "No way" he landed a heavy smack directly on my mouth. My lower right canine tooth broke through my bottom lip causing a wicked spray of blood. I think he got a bit scared at this point, because he legged it without getting hold of my chicken and ham pie.
Anyway it hurt quite a lot and took fucking ages to heal.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Black Mask: Yeah. Was it anything to do with Snow White?
Was Sleepy out of action?
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
Lol at Masky.
I have never been properly punched in the face. My sister's first nutter ex-husband had a bit of a crack at punching me once, but it was all a bit half-hearted. Though him having a crack at it did result in my then boyfriend who had previously been full of 'I am man! I will protect you against this evil psychopath!' doing a total runner and hiding back in the goth pub where said nutter ex-husband couldn't find him. Oh, and my bonkers mate Carole laid an uppercut on me once that split my lip (I didn't deserve it. Honest)
Bizarrely, I would, I think, quite like to be punched properly in the face. Just to see what it feels like. On one sane level I totally understand that it would hurt, and be very unpleasant, and probably break something but it's once of those I'd just want to know things. A bit like the 'if I had a gun I'd be dead thing'. Maybe I should add it to the list of things I should do before I'm thirty.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: How many people here have actually really been been punched really hard in the face, though? It's all very well saying "Yeah, I'd be up for it", but the one time I got in a real fight (against six other people - I didn't win) it was miserable and painful. I sort of see where the exhiliration of physical combat comes in - I do like a really good moshpit, for example, but when some actually slugs you right in the face as hard as they can it pretty much starts and ends the fight in one blow.
Oh Thorn That sucks ass. It's not like in Kung Fu films where they take you on one at a time and you have enough time to pull an assortment of weapons from a wooden cart. I've been lucky enough never to have been punched by someone very big, because I'm sure I would just instantly die. I have however had plenty of experience to know that being punched in the face blows pretty fucking hard. Now that I look back. I've been punched a few times. Man I need to address that.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: How many people here have actually really been been punched really hard in the face, though?
I've been punched in the face a few times. Generally as a result of me punching the other guy in the face first. It's very important to get in the first shot, I can't stress this enough. Every fight I've even been involved in as an adult was a result of too much booze and me being an idiot. Let that be a lesson to all you youngsters out there in TMO land. (Ringo -- I'm looking in your general direction, Come on Eileen indeed! )
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
Note: I am not actually asking for volunteers. More, um, musing.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by ralph: I've been punched in the face a few times. Generally as a result of me punching the other guy in the face first. It's very important to get in the first shot, I can't stress this enough.
I've heard that said before, and I can believe it. Has anyone else here ever smashed someone in the face as hard as they could? And if so, why?
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
yeah, and it really hurts your hand/wrist if you don't do it right. I've sprained my wrist from punching somebody in the face.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
I'm enjoying a a montage right now that consists of Thorn against six assasins to the Beastie Boys sabotage, Ralph in a bar brawl to 'the good old boys' and finally someone giving birth to a healthy baby to Come on Eileen. It's good because it doesn't need to make any sense.
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
I've hit people pretty hard before. I had a fight with someone and I knocked them to the floor and kicked their nuts in. That felt quite good.
I had a fight with my Dad once, and he pushed me through a window. That didn't feel so good.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: Has anyone else here ever smashed someone in the face as hard as they could?
Not as hard as I could, but pretty hard, not that I remember the events too clearly. It's mostly what I was told by friends after the fact. But it's hard to punch someone as hard as you can when you're drunk. I haven't struck another human being for many years now. Talking about the old days is making me feel a bit shit actually.
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
And the dog, ralph. You can't bury that memory in your back yard, buddy.
Posted by Bandy (Member # 12) on :
Awesome. I once called my dad a prick then locked myself in the downstairs toilet.I was 8 and he'd just cheated at cricket.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by Roy: And the dog, ralph. You can't bury that memory in your back yard, buddy.
Obviously. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a dead dog from Manchester UK to the hills of western Massachusetts?
[ 16.03.2006, 11:58: Message edited by: ralph ]
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
Not since I was a youngun. I did once crak some kid in the face though, bust his nose open a goodun. I must have been all of ten years old. The 'fight' was over before it began really. I was walking along carrying a football with both hands, and as he walked past me he hit the bottom of the football so it flew out of my hands. I don't think I intended to wound the kid so badly but I basically waked up behind him, tapped him on the shoulder and when he turned round I smacked him in the face as hard as I could. He ran crying to the nurse, leaving a trail of bloody spots on the floor behind him.
I was so terrified of what was going to happen to me that I cried for like an hour afterwards.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
aww. My dad and I had a couple of fights, but I was a difficult teenager to say the least. I did think he was going to actually kill me once though, which is probably one of those things that I won't fully get over until he's dead or something.
[ 16.03.2006, 11:59: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
I hit someone at a party. For taking the piss out of me non stop for an hour. I asked him politely to stop twice. Strangely. The same thing happened again with exactly the same person, like as if it never happened. This wasn't like a dinner party or anything. It was like one of those parties where someone passes out on the patio or puts immac in the shampoo.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
Come on TMO ladies, one of you must have had a pop at someone near some mud at one point at least.
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
It's like that scene in a friends episode where things get heated amongst two of the women (dunno their names) and Joey says "They're gonna have a fight. Quick! Throw Jello over them!"
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
I think honeybaby has slipped down low on her chair, is utilising the high speed in which fingers can glide across polyester and the fact the the rest of the team have gone out on a field trip this afternoon.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
I once had a scuffle in metalwork when a boy stole the vice I'd bagsied. I tore his shirt and to my surprise he gave in. That was it. In my whole life. Except my sister, but that doesn't count.
Posted by Doctor Agamemnon When (Member # 189) on :
I've successfully managed to avoid "proper" pub-style fist fights so far. I've been in a few pushy-shovey things, but they don't really count, and have helped split up a couple of brawlers on several occasions.
Most of my fighting career spans Western European martial arts stuff and about 15 years of medieval battles: All pretty good humoured rugby-style bruising and the odd minor hospitalisation.
The nearest I've come to anything serious and permanent is nearly losing an eye a couple of years back (smacked in the eye-socket with the butt-end of a tournament mace) - but it's fine now.
I'd like to think all those years of training would help in a Real Fight™ but suspect my first move would be to Do A Runner.
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
my best friend kicked me in the **** one time. i kissed her boyfriend. i was a bad friend. there was lots of hair pulling, and clawing, and when i finally removed myself from her vice- like grip i turned round and saw that there were two twentysomething males hiding behind a car, sipping from cans of cider and watching intently. i dont think it was very hott though. it might have been. is teenage girls fighting automatically hott?
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
if their boobs pop out, then yeah.
Posted by Doctor Agamemnon When (Member # 189) on :
quote:Originally posted by dance margarita: is teenage girls fighting automatically hott?
Depends on the lingerie, and how slowly they fight.
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
no, we were sensible bra kind of girls. no poppage.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
If they're naked and have straight-razors and it's to the death.
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
i was wearing a carter usm tshirt, denim cutoffs and dutch army boots. oh, and i had a tiny nail- clipper on my keyring. no? oh well.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
quote:Originally posted by dance margarita: i turned round and saw that there were two twentysomething males hiding behind a car, sipping from cans of cider and watching intently. i dont think it was very hott though. it might have been. is teenage girls fighting automatically hott?
See the responses and you get a chart.
Mask = to the death
When = slow
Guys drinking cider behind a car = no poppage, hair pulling, fanny paff.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
I'd have spurted some foamy apple sauce for the Carter t-shirt alone though.
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
I'm ashamed to admit this, but I once broke up a fight between two girls and as I did so, I copped a feel of some tit.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
Under the bra?
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
she should have worn a sensible bra like me. Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
No. I couldn't get beneath any layers. I sort of pulled the girl away using my hands around her breasts.
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
Please don't let that be the last post on this thread.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
Got a cigarette?
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
lol
Posted by Kira (Member # 826) on :
ha ha at Roy
I've never been in a fight in my life; i'm the least confrontational person i know...
Posted by Sidney (Member # 399) on :
I once chased my sister up the stairs after she called me "fat arse". She ran to the bathroom and locked herself in. I then kicked the bathroom door in. My sister screamed and leapt into the bathtub, cowering and covering her head. This surprised me so much that I immediately stopped and was no longer angry. I just kind of said "yeah and don't ever call me fat arse again!" before walking out and worrying about how much trouble I was going to be in over the unhinged bathroom door.
Also, my dad once hit me over the head with a telephone. Not one of your itty bitty mobile phones of today but a great, clunking moss green 70s style phone.
Posted by kovacs (Member # 28) on :
Remember in mid-August the year before last, when I posted that photograph of me with one side of my cheek collapsed and my eye like a bust fruit? After a few wisecracks, people were sorry to hear how I'd been punched twice in the face that weekend. I'd spent Sunday morning from midnight to 6am in hospital with Modge, retching into a cardboard bowl in a striplit waiting room, with her trying desperately to keep me from slipping unconscious.
Turned out, after five days during which the swelling went down a little but my face was still scarily lopsided, that it was more serious than a bit of a bruise. The doc sent me for X-rays (another 6 hour wait in the same hospital) and next day the specialist told me as a matter of fact affair that he was going to book me urgently into hospital on Sunday night, because my cheekbone had been smashed and they were going to have to cut in through my mouth to stick a metal pin in my face. For a few minutes I couldn't even stand up, from the shock.
I think I mentioned, on some thread about violence or vengeance at the time, how my brother bowed his head and winced the next Saturday when he looked at my damaged face. You can imagine my parents and grandparents didn't have a great weekend. You can perhaps stretch to imagining how I felt when Modge left me in a ward with six strangers for the night, with my operation booked for 8am next morning.
I couldn't eat properly for a fortnight afterwards. I was looking ill and wasted even in September.
From some possibly-misplaced loyalty I lied to the police about it that Saturday, and then lied to TMO and almost everyone else I knew, and didn't say that it was "Roy" who had slammed his fist twice ito my face that night, after we decided to have a jokey spar like in Fight Club and he flipped because he thought he might lose.
Then, from some motive of forgiveness, I met Roy for a drink six months or so later, and he told me how he'd felt pretty big about putting someone in hospital. He also treated me to the knowledge that he'd seen a solicitor who'd advised him to lie about it if it ever came to court.
Probably like a fool, I went for one more drink with Roy after that; and invited him back to mine. After a line or two of coke he took off his shirt and glasses and threatened to kick me in, because I was being moody, or was always sneering at him, or some other valid reason. Modge had to stand in front of him, putting herself between our bodies, to keep him from hitting me.
I didn't say any of this because I was friends with Roy as a kid, and I think he has good qualities which are evident on this board, and I was trying to do the decent thing by not turning anyone against him.
But I learned very quickly after that Saturday night that punching someone and being punched isn't remotely funny, cool, attractive or endearing. Roy seems never to have learned that, or he seems to have forgotten it. I'm sick now of reading his cheeky hard-man routine, and his bit-of-a-naughty-boy persona.
This must end it. Sorry, Roy.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
We're never gonna hear the end of that fucking black-eye, are we?
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
Maybe they'll meet for drinks again and Roy will finish him off.*
* Said in jest of course. If what kovacs is saying is true, I might not love Roy anymore. Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
I've been in Christ knows how many fights but, crucially, haven't been in a proper one for over ten years.
I'd post all about them but I can't think of any way to do so without sounding like a complete prick.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
quote:Originally posted by jonesy999: I'd post all about them but I can't think of any way to do so without sounding like a complete prick.
You've got to lose in order to sound like the victim tough guy.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Originally posted by jonesy999: I've been in Christ knows how many fights
Wow.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
Are you raising the boys to be lovers or fighters Mask?
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
I don't see it as 'raising', really. I want them to be feral.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
I’ve forgotten his name. Smiley, that was it. The worst thing about it was I became friends with Smiley’s sister a few years later and was introduced to him. “This is my brother, Paul.” Horrible knowing smile.
I'd have been about 20 years old – , like so many other bad things that happened around that time, it did me the power of good.
I used to fight a lot when I was a teenager. I wasn’t very nice but, by the time my I crossed paths with Smiley, well, I’d realised most people had grown much bigger than me, I’d realised I didn’t want to get nicked and I’d realised I didn’t want to get hurt. It had been a good couple of years since I’d been in a fight.
We were hanging around in the car park outside the leisure centre and next door to the pier. We rarely went down there anymore. We preferred to smoke in our cars, at the cliff tops or do trips and wander around the spar gardens tightroping walls or sometimes pretending to be Lancasters, lying on the walls, making bomb whistles and hallucinating the exploding flowers beneath us.
But, for whatever reason, we were in the car park. Smiley was trying to reverse his car – he was a couple of years older than me, a squaddie. He wasn’t officially ‘cool’ and he was hanging around with teenagers, four or five years younger than him. Anyway, on the social ladder, he shouldn’t be allowed to talk to us, there was no way on earth I could back down to this man.
So we didn’t move when he reversed his car out. We were pricks. He carried on reversing, may have sounded his horn, I can’t remember. Either way, eventually Kim moved, Darryn moved and then Jamie moved. Only I stood in the way of Smiley’s car, creeping backwards toward me. I was a right horrible prick, as I said.
I think I intended to move. I can’t imagine I was out to actually start a fight because, as I said, I’d grown out of that kind of thing by then.
I still had my little fucker ego, though, so when Smiley actually reversed his Cavalier into my leg, I couldn’t back down. I brought the flat of my palm down hard on the boot of his car and dented it. He got out and walked toward me. I have this strange memory that he was wearing a Stetson. He was that kind of idiot actually, so it’s possible.
He invited me onto the beach for a fight. Actually invited me. Like we were at school, meeting at the Rec with crowds and look outs for teachers and shit. “What the fuck is this,” I said, “Grange Hill?”
I was amazed, I was amused. I followed him onto the beach. He stripped off his shirt as we walked – actually stripped to the waist. I smiled an incredulous smile, shook my head and followed him.
A crowd was gathering, Dean and Whittaker were there – they were proper thugs by then but when we were at school both of them had taken a pasting from me.
“Fucking hell,” I heard Whitaker say. “Just watch Jonesy fucking kill this guy.”
He really meant it too. He was genuinely excited. For these ham heads, me getting into a fight was like Larry Holmes coming out of retirement.
It didn’t last long. I had a certain amount of respect for Smiley’s honest, almost Queensbury approach to the whole thing. We squared up, he hit me, hard. I landed a couple of punches. I ran at him, head in his stomach, hoping to over balance him. It worked, we hit the deck. We struggled on the floor, a few messy punches were thrown. Dean Scott decided to help. He ran at Smiley and aimed a kick. Smiley rolled over and Dean missed. That’s the last thing I remember. Dean kicked me in the head, as hard as he could, and he had big feet.
I jumped up and ran at Smiley, fists raised. He wasn’t there. He seemed to have the power of teleportation on his side. How did he get over there? I turned and ran at him. A group of people (who seemed to materialise where they weren’t before) grabbed me and said “You’ve had enough, Jonesy.” Smiley had his hands raised in a passive gesture. He didn’t want to go on. He felt sorry for me.
I’d been out spark for about 30 seconds I think. Enough time for Smiley to hit me a few times, get up and walk 10 yards or so away from me.
As far as I was concerned, Dean had knocked me out cold by kicking me in the head. Smiley must have landed at least two punches on my prone figure because my eye was banged shut and I had my chin opened up enough for a few butterfly stitches. I certainly don’t remember him doing that to me. I was concussed, did a fair but of throwing up, had a headache for a couple of days. That was how I tried to remember it: someone else kicking me in the head, Smiley beating by unconcious body. It's bullshit, I think. I think I got a good kicking by a man in a Stetson in front of a crowd of people who knew me. I must have been flailing around like a complete spastic for Dean to even consider getting involved. I must have looked a right cnunt. And I was.
[ 16.03.2006, 16:31: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Jesus, what a prick...
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Thanks man. I was really trying to share something then.
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
quote:Originally posted by jonesy999: I've been in Christ knows how many fights
3.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Jesus, what a prick.
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: one of vikram's mates punched me in the face until I had a bleeding nose and lip, yet I was unable to even put his hair style in danger.
yeah well, it's one of my friends yeah. they're all crazy hetero. they could kill you with thei index finger. they know nintendo, bitch.
that was quite the homoerotic fight. amp was there too. she will vouch. it was the gayest. benway bled on my expensive wooden floor.
did roy really hit kovacs? was he responsible for the damage? as much as kovacs and i have a long history of antagonism, i hope this is not the case. but if it is, i vaguely remember him blaming on black men, which says a lot about him if i remember correctly. i smashed my jaw in drunken bike crash. i win!
anyway, i am drunk out of my mind and typing amazingly well. just walked from euston to shoreditch. benway and me got fucking trashed and had good conversation tonight. didn't we steve? and! i hit on a teenager and was totally shot down like a fucking loser which is what i am. lol. ask steve!! but whatever, who gives a fucking shit about anything. it was only about the aesthetics anyway. bleurgh.
sweet dreams all, especially roy.
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
maybe steve will get fired! it'll be my fault!
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
ffs
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
when i say hot on a teenager i don't mean i beat her up. although that would be. anyway. i'm not roy. i'm totally co-opted into the system, i don't wanna blow up shit.
bad roy.
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
hit not hot. i think i should pass out now. good night kovacs!
[ 16.03.2006, 22:27: Message edited by: vikram ]
Posted by Honeybaby (Member # 543) on :
quote:Originally posted by New Way Of Decay: I think honeybaby has slipped down low on her chair, is utilising the high speed in which fingers can glide across polyester and the fact the the rest of the team have gone out on a field trip this afternoon.
Nope, although yeasterday I did spend some time sniggering to myself that I was wearing a basque and fishnets under my staid librarian clothes and no-one knew except me (and at about 4pm, the entire interweb.)
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
Surely at least half of the violence thing in Fight Club was actually about taking a beating, not just dishing it out? But yeah, if you don't want to get hurt it's probably best to avoid fighting entirely.
I've been on both ends of proper fights. At one point taking a kicking so severe it left a weird little bubble thing on the side of my head for months after, and that was a fight I sort of nominally won. I haven't actually been in a street fight for years now and I'd prefer to keep it that way.
[ 17.03.2006, 04:12: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by vikram: if it is, i vaguely remember him blaming on black men, which says a lot about him if i remember correctly.
The great thing about TMO is that when you wake up with a hangover, running from a creeping feeling that you did something regrettable the night before, you can turn on your computer and see that you actually did. No doubts. Brilliant.
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
But that was brilliant Jones, you gigantic poof. ps Don't hit me!
[ 17.03.2006, 04:13: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
quote:Originally posted by jonesy999: The great thing about TMO is that when you wake up with a hangover, running from a creeping feeling that you did something regrettable the night before, you can turn on your computer and see that you actually did. No doubts. Brilliant.
I have no concept of such an emotion. What is this you speak off, 'regret'?
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
of not off. FFFS. still drunk. going back to bed.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
Nggg. What the fuck was that? Butterscotch vodka? Upon waking this morning, I felt like my head was going to explode. All I could do was tear all my clothes off and shiver.
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
i reckon it was the jaigermeister. it creeps up on you man. i walked all the way home!!1
today i am simultaneously drunbk and hungover. and yes i am shivering. thank fuck dont have work today
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
My new house is near Shoreditch, I am very much looking forward to meeting Vikram in a bar. I am going to hang about in Shoreditch bars playing Guess Who until I find him.
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
i'm the semi-comotose one in the corner wearing a thundercats t-shirt.
this is not a joke Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
Did Vikram and Benway really go out, or is it a hypre-real extension of the flat-mate fantasy?
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
does it really make any difference which reality the events occured in?
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
What a square!
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Or a triangle.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
I'm so square, I'm cuboid.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
I'm hungover. I took TWO nurofen plus this morning. I'm basically the Syd Barrett of TMO.
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
This thread is really quite odd.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
That ringo sex thread is excellent. What has happened since then? No more japes, just bitterness and fear.
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by Vogon Poetess: This thread is really quite odd.
And rather excludes those of us without a hangover. I'm thinking of acquiring one just to be part of this thread.
[ 17.03.2006, 05:51: Message edited by: Purple Monkey Dishwasher ]
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
Darryn, can you try turning TMO off and on again?
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
Aren't we already turned off?
[ 17.03.2006, 05:57: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: Darryn, can you try turning TMO off and on again?
Don't tell me... You work in an IT support centre!
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
no.
Did you do a strip for your boyfriend last night, PMD?
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
I can't answer that, Dr. Benway.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
come on
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
this thread is useless without pictures
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: come on
And upset not… again? I wouldn’t dare.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
Come on Roy - defend yourself.
*Jabs Roy in face tauntingly, feints, jabs again*
Yeah. Not such a hard man now, yeah?
*Lands bone crushing blow against Roy's cheek, spins round, delivers roundhouse to the throat and flings Roy through window, BA Baracus-style*
Yeah, Roy? Yeah? Come ON, motherfucker.
*Breathes fire at Roy*
YOGA FLAME.
*Toasts marshmallows by the heat or Roy's burning, twitching body*
*Snorton appears, shakes head sadly*
Snorton: "A black man did this."
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
I think it would just be easier all round to accept Kovacs version of events.
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
And I think that we're on, what, version 2?
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by Roy: I think it would just be easier all round to accept Kovacs version of events.
It doesn't seem to matter much anyway - judging by the current roar of indifference no-one on the forum seems to care one way or the other whether or not you broke kovacs's face, were willing to lie about it or whether the whole thing's just his lies designed to demonize you.
[ 17.03.2006, 06:47: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
I guess this means we can just beat the fucking shit out of other forites with impunity. I wonder if there would have been more reaction if Roy had belted a female member of the forum - or someone more popular than Kovacs is... Dang, for example.
Perhaps people are jaded: maybe you have to at least sexually assault someone before eyebrows are raised and objections made.
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
Who's the 'We' Ben? Do you have a gang now?
[ 17.03.2006, 07:05: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
I think it's time for a bit of vigilante justice
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Look at the state of Pete's trousers.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
NOT SUCH A HARD MAN NOW. Forum alpha 'Black Mask' feels a taste of Roy's murderous temper. Says a tearful Mask: "He was like a wild man! I thought he was a pal but look at me! Look at what he did to my face!" Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
I don't feel well enough to deal with this fairly tense situation.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Spotless t-shirt, though.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: I don't feel well enough to deal with this fairly tense situation.
Hush now, DrB. I don't think Roy really beat up Kovacs. It's just one of his cries for attention. Roy lives on an oil rig in the Atlantic. Or something.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
quote:Originally posted by Boy Racer:
From left to right: not..., VP, Ben, Vikram
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
quote:Originally posted by herbs:
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: I don't feel well enough to deal with this fairly tense situation.
Hush now, DrB. I don't think Roy really beat up Kovacs. It's just one of his cries for attention. Roy lives on an oil rig in the Atlantic. Or something.
No, I don't think so, unfortunately.
Oh, Roy Posted by Modge (Member # 64) on :
quote:Originally posted by herbs: Hush now, DrB. I don't think Roy really beat up Kovacs.
He did.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: I don't feel well enough to deal with this fairly tense situation.
Neither do I. I got smashed at a private members club in Shaftesbury Ave yesterday and blacked out until nearly midnight, when I regained consciousness as the train pulled into a freezing Leeds station, and I found myself surrounded by the remains of a meal I couldn't recall eating.
You know the episode of Family Guy where they all take Ipecac as part of a wager of some kind? It was like that.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
I remember having some kind of online conversation with Roy, and the discussion turned to whether or not he was going to attend a meet. I was pressuringhim into going, and then he starts saying that he's really rough. I thought he just meant he was a bit unkempt but now I think about it, I'm pretty sure he was more or less threatening me.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
alright Modge?
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Roy lives on an oil rig in Plumstead.
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
i think we should do more forite-on-forite scenarious. it will be funny. unless kovacs claims are true. not so funny then.
poster fist: i'd write a gay one about benway and me, but i am fucking hungover and feel quite sick.
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
oh
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
now that modge has confirmed...
what happened roy?
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: I found myself surrounded by the remains of a meal I couldn't recall eating.
You know the episode of Family Guy where they all take Ipecac as part of a wager of some kind? It was like that.
I was sick in my sink, and unfortunately, the dishes were in it at the time. Alcohol pwned me again. Karaoke tonight too.
As for family guy - I've only just be turned on to it by comedy giant bandy, and I love it. I've started the painful task of torrenting 8gb of it.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by Black Mask: Roy lives on an oil rig in Plumstead.
But I'm sure they let him off the rig from time to time.
Roy...in all seriousness...are these accusations true?
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Who cares? It's only kovacs.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
I got smacked in the face by a friend from college once. Several times in fact. We were really quite drunk, and he spat beer at me, so I spat beer back at him. He said "If you do that again I'm going to smack you in the face". I laughed and did it again. So he smacked me in the face. I was more shocked than pained, and just kind of sat there gawping, before saying "y-you hit me!" and then he hit me again. Twice in fact, right in the face. It's funny because I've een punched plenty of times but I can't remember it ever actually hurting.
Anyway, this story finishes with me calling him a psycho and leaving. He apologised the next day and said he tends to get a bit violent if drunk. Nicest guy you could ever meet when he's sober.
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: I was sick in my sink, and unfortunately, the dishes were in it at the time.
LOL
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by Black Mask: Who cares? It's only kovacs.
I just want to know if Roy did it, and where I should send the check if he did.
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
i love the internets:
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
quote:Originally posted by ralph:
quote:Originally posted by Black Mask: Who cares? It's only kovacs.
I just want to know if Roy did it, and where I should send the check if he did.
I guess this is supposed to be funny, but it actually makes you look like a total fucking prick, Ralph.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Isn't the internets a bit gay?
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Originally posted by ralph: where I should send the check if he did.
Send your donations to...
Roy 'Roughneck' McGurk Basement flat The Oilrig Plumstead Saaf Lahnaan SE2000 5TB
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: I guess this is supposed to be funny, but it actually makes you look like a total fucking prick, Ralph.
Guessing not one of your strong points then?
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Oh no, Ralph really would pay to have Kovacs beaten up. What have we become?
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
forgive/forget
[ 17.03.2006, 07:47: Message edited by: New Way Of Decay ]
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
I'm genuinely appalled. Anyone else want to express satisfaction and/or indifference at Kovacs taking a pasting?
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: I'm genuinely appalled. Anyone else want to express satisfaction and/or indifference at Kovacs taking a pasting?
I don't think any of us fancy getting on the wrong side of Roy, Ben. We have no choice.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Is this thread something to do with St. Patrick's Day?
[ 17.03.2006, 07:50: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
If people really want to make a judgement on me based on Kovacs' post, then that is up to them. I'm not going to get into this at all.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
I think you should ask yourself why either people disbelieve it or have no empathy.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
I don't want to make a judgement based on kovacs' post, but you're not really leaving any options, Roy. Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
how depressing this is.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
TMO is going to go into meltdown this afternoon.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
ben always does this. He thinks it makes him look big.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
quote:Originally posted by New Way Of Decay: I think you should ask yourself why either people disbelieve it or have no empathy.
People are clearly pretty fucking mean-sprited is what. I've had plenty of bitter disagreements with, say, Snorton - but if someone were to rearrange his features I think I'd find it in me to condemn whoever did it and wish him a speedy recovery.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
lol(Nazi gold)[Is it safe?]
[ 17.03.2006, 07:56: Message edited by: Black Mask ]
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
There's no way Honeybaby started this thread by accident. She's involved in this somehow.
[ 17.03.2006, 07:58: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: People are clearly pretty fucking mean-sprited [/QB]
Which people? Surely if Herbs, for example, were beaten up the board would have reacted differently.
Surely this has more to do with Kovacs' percieved lack of popularity?
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by New Way Of Decay: I think you should ask yourself why either people disbelieve it or have no empathy.
I dunno - I agree with ben. It's pretty low to decide that someone deserved to have their face broken, whatever jibes they have made at you online. Time was, people would rally round if you so much as flamed another poster. Now someone gets their face mashed and you're like "well, he said this mean thing once". Fuck that. I don't want to come over all sanctimonious, but when did people get so self-obssessed? Once someone announces somethign like that, people just keep on running in their circles of comedy schtick, and then when prodded shrug their shoulders and say "Well I don't care - I never liked him all that much anyway."
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: People are clearly pretty fucking mean-sprited is what.
I can't speak for the others, but I was, as you correctly surmised, joking. I'm not a barbarian; I'm a computer programmmer with three young kids. I wouldn't wish any physical harm on anyone here. The prick comment stung a little I guess. ben, I'm sorry for my comments.
[ 17.03.2006, 07:58: Message edited by: ralph ]
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Surely this has more to do with kovacs blatantly inventing the whole thing?
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: I think I'd find it in me to condemn whoever did it and wish him a speedy recovery.
you so funny, ben.
i want to hear roy's side. when benway and my friend were play fighting it got a little out of hand and benway bled. not a big deal. but i can see how you could get lost in the moment and end up bashing kovac's face in. if that's what happened, then you know, whatever yeah. but if it was less innocent... roy needs to explain.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Yes.
As in, yes, isn't everyone assuming this is a wind up?
[ 17.03.2006, 08:06: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
I can't speak for everybody, natch, but I think the problem is more one of disbelief, in the 'boy who cried wolf' vein, rather than lack of sympathy for kovacs getting beaten up. If he did, that is obviously a BAD THING and he deserves our, belated, sympathy.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: People are clearly pretty fucking mean-sprited is what. I've had plenty of bitter disagreements with, say, Snorton - but if someone were to rearrange his features I think I'd find it in me to condemn whoever did it and wish him a speedy recovery.
And I agree, I hope you are better soon Kovacs. I'd say it's case specific. Maybe if roy had smashed up Rick, there might have been a different reaction wouldn't there? At least people would believe Rick, especially if there was an anecdote about squirting in there somewhere.
oh look, snap PMD.
[ 17.03.2006, 08:07: Message edited by: New Way Of Decay ]
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: I dunno - I agree with ben. It's pretty low to decide that someone deserved to have their face broken, whatever jibes they have made at you online. Time was, people would rally round if you so much as flamed another poster. Now someone gets their face mashed and you're like "well, he said this mean thing once". Fuck that. I don't want to come over all sanctimonious, but when did people get so self-obssessed? Once someone announces somethign like that, people just keep on running in their circles of comedy schtick, and then when prodded shrug their shoulders and say "Well I don't care - I never liked him all that much anyway."
It's a bit hard to say if someone deserves being hit in the face really isn't it? I didn't say that. I said I didn't really care. I have apathy. I can't find it within myself to feel bad. Perhaps you could find some form of care and inject me in the arm with it in the hope I'll suddenly feel differently but I don't. This is coming from someone who feels guilty for drinking the last of the milk, so something is very broken.
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
Okay.
It was a horrible incident and yes, I did hit Kovacs and yes, he was hurt pretty badly.
I'm not going to debate the events before or after. I don't understand why Kovacs has chosen now to bring this up as I have had contact with him since and he expressed a desire to have some, limited, contact.
All I will say is that I did not mean to hurt him, that I take no pride whatsoever in what happened and that I regret the whole thing completely. If I could change it I would.
None of this incident is remotely funny.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
Crumbs. Unless Roy is a Kovacs troll, this is kinda bad.
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
quote:Originally posted by jonesy999: Yes.
As in, yes, isn't everyone assuming this is a wind up?
Yup. I did.
And as I recall plenty of people who've had issues with Kovacs on TMO expressed their wishes for his speedy recovery at the time.
[ 17.03.2006, 08:13: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
Oh, Roy. Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
OK, fine; if it's not a wind up then my sympathy goes out to Kovacs for his injuries, just as it did at the time. I'll add to it that you're both fucking idiots if you decided to play fight club and that it's hardly surprising for people to disbelieve Kovacs when his way of announcing the truth is to admit that he previously made up a bullshit story to explain his injuries, a story which gained the forum's sympathy and probably turned Rick J against Blackes.
[ 17.03.2006, 08:11: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
Posted by fish (Member # 22) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: I guess this is supposed to be funny, but it actually makes you look like a total fucking prick, Ralph.
This is the last straw. Ben, you are so fucking busted on this. I've just been waiting for you to once again show people how quickly you can turn and show your fucking nasty side. I've kept quiet long enough. Not any more.
Guys, I haven't posted on TMO for about a year now because of Ben. He comes across as such a nice guy, but he can turn without warning into a vicious bastard. And my god, once he's turned on you he's relentless. Look at his vendetta with Snorton that's run on about 5 years or something. Ok snorton can be a prick, but come on, 5 years! That's just ridiculous.
Anyway, it was actually about April or May last year when Ben came down to London on one of his library visits. A few of us got together for a drink or two in town at the end of the day, having a laugh and a joke. I made some stupid comment about having shagged his wife at Glastonbury the previous summer and so therefore I could be the father of his kid. OK fair enough, that was out of order, but I was obviously only joking.
But I don't know, I must have struck a nerve or something, because he went completely mental. It's all a bit of a blur to me now to be honest, but I've heard accounts of the other people who were there, and Ben just turned into a fucking psycho. He was sat opposite me in the pub and I remember him throwing the table forwards and all our drinks falling onto the floor. Then he punched me in the eye and I think my eyebrow kind of exploded because I just remember my face going all hot and wet and I couldn't see. I was aware of him standing over me and punching my head again and again, but my legs kind of buckled underneath me or something. After that everything really is a blur. Bandy said he was stamping on my head in time with screaming stuff like "Don't" <stamp> "fucking" <stamp> "talk" <stamp> "that" <stamp> "way" <stamp> "about" <stamp> "my" <stamp> "fucking" <stamp> "wife!" <stamp> <stamp>.
He then finished me off with the words "And stay off my fucking internet!" as he stamped on and crushed my fingers.
As you can see from my X-ray, the left hand side of my jaw was broken in 3 places. It was also dislocated and had to be wired shut for four months. Both cheek bones were broken and my nose was shattered. After extensive facial remodelling and 4 plastic surgery operations, I still look disfigured.
I've lost touch with most of hte people who were there that night. They were kind afterwards, but I blame them for not intervening. Just looking at this site I can see that none of them are really posting much anymore. I hope it's because they're all ashamed of themselves.
Anyway, that's all i wanted to say. I probably won't stick around long, this place has too many bad memories for me now. I just wanted to warn you of what Ben can be like.
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
What the fucking fuck??!?!?!?!?
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
ben is like joe pesci
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
I heard about that ben thing from Stakker but I didn't know if I should believe it. Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
what funny ?
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
I don't know whether to assume this is a 'joke', as I normally would. The world has shifted on its axis.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
Tav shot me in the leg with an air rifle.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
*Applause*
Post of the Year, Fish.
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
Is Kovacs kidding? I am so shit at knowing when people are kidding.
I got into a fight once, with a fourteen year-old-scally. She had mates. I hit her as hard as I could and ran away, and then spent the next three years worrying that she might make good on her threat of finding out where I fucking lived and kicking my fucking head in.
Ben - was the club Century? You should have called Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
P.S. Does this mean Roy's black?
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
I'm very behind the pace - I missed all the other bits. I was still talking about a fight I had with someone who wasn't on the forum, whereas clearly this thread is now about the times that forites beat the shit out of each other.
quote:Originally posted by jonesy999: Tav shot me in the leg with an air rifle.
This is fucking hilarious.
Herbs half-nelsoned me in the Blue Posts.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
Oh for fucks sake, now I am starting to get the guilt. See what I mean you fucking gays?
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by fish: he was stamping on my head in time with screaming stuff like "Don't" <stamp> "fucking" <stamp> "talk" <stamp> "that" <stamp> "way" <stamp> "about" <stamp> "my" <stamp> "fucking" <stamp> "wife!" <stamp> <stamp>.
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
A fight is one thing, but stamping on someone's head?!? You can kill somebody like that!
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
kovacs got lashings of sympathy first time around, why should he get second-helpings just because he's cracking on that Roy pasted him in a Fight Club? That's just not fair. And fairness is what this is all about, right?
Posted by Modge (Member # 64) on :
kovacs is not kidding - are people just not reading his/roy's/my posts?
Roy hit kovacs in the face in Aug 04 and broke his cheek bone. At the time, kovacs told noone bar his parents and brother that Roy was responsible.
Some months later they cautiously met up, Roy apologised, Roy came to our house and apologised to me. Later on that evening, he got angry enough to threaten kovacs again, I had to literally put myself between them and get Roy to leave.
I have found it bewildering/annoying/upsetting to have Roy posting on TMO ever since but obviously I'm going to be more bothered by what happened that most people (anyone?), and since his post count is probably now twice mine I haven't got much claim to the forum, but there you go.
[ 17.03.2006, 08:36: Message edited by: Modge ]
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
Ben's got a real nerve.
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
PMD - just for clarity, I think Fish is kidding.
Can anyone provide clarity on whether Kovacs is kidding? Seems like an odd thing to kid about - I remember him being very shaken up at the time. I didn't know him and roy even knew each other....
Edit. Just saw Modge's post. Fuck. King. Hell.
[ 17.03.2006, 08:36: Message edited by: scrawny ]
Posted by Honeybaby (Member # 543) on :
quote:Originally posted by jonesy999: There's no way Honeybaby started this thread by accident. She's involved in this somehow.
Cripes, sorry, I thought we might just have a little bitch slap and maybe roll around on the floor a bit. I didn't realise.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Hi, kovacs!
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by scrawny: PMD - just for clarity, I think Fish is kidding.
Joking at such length about grievous bodily harm just doesn't strike the right note with me. I'm convinced he's telling the truth.
[ 17.03.2006, 08:41: Message edited by: Purple Monkey Dishwasher ]
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
So Roy is Rillion? Wasn't it Rillion who hit Kovacs?
Posted by Bailey (Member # 261) on :
quote:Originally posted by London: So Roy is Rillion? Wasn't it Rillion who hit Kovacs?
No, Roy is not Rillion.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
How did Roy end up on TMO, then? Did kovacs force him to post on here as a punishment? Or maybe Roy's a bit stalkerish..?
The Talented Mr Ro(ple)y.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
Where the fuck is everybody coming from?!
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
AFRICA! Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dr. Benway: Where the fuck is everybody coming from?!
Well, I'm coming from a position of 'hey, you can't beat people up and stuff! That's like, so unfair!' but I'm doing so even though I've not met anyone on here, or been threatened by them.
So I'm going to bow out of this one now.
Edit: Sheesh, who'd have thought that joining a sneaky online forum to post on when the boss is out could get so fucking heavy?
[ 17.03.2006, 08:49: Message edited by: Purple Monkey Dishwasher ]
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
For all its horror and blood and seriousness, this is still one of the funniest threads we've had on here for ages. It's like Catch-22, or Sven Hassel.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
no, I meant - .....ahhh, clever!
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
I used bold for extra emphasis. Try saying it very loud in a deep sonorous voice, maybe with your arms thrown out in a grand gesture.
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
add on a HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAH! and we're in business.
[ 17.03.2006, 08:51: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
Posted by Modge (Member # 64) on :
quote:Originally posted by Black Mask: How did Roy end up on TMO, then?
kovacs introduced Roy to TMO before this all happened. Roy and kovacs went to school together, got back in touch in 2002 (I think), and at some point kovacs told him about the boards.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
Quite a shocking turn of events, it must be said, if this isn’t some elaborate wind up. Is anyone really that surprised that the majority might just assume it’s a wind up of bizarre joke, considering Kovacs’ past form on here? That Kovacs had his cheek bone broken is shocking and terrible, no matter what the provocation, but I think we all expressed concern and sympathy at the time, and I don’t see why that should be reiterated upon now, simply because it transpires that the injuries were inflicted by someone other than a random assailant. I don’t know Roy, and I’m not going to make too harsh a judgement on his character based on this, because I simply don’t know the whole story, which took place over 18 months ago. There’s no reason for any more sympathy or empathy than Kovacs received in the first place, although perhaps jokes are slightly inappropriate. Again, though, why should anyone believe this is anything other than an elaborate hoax? Sorry Kovacs, I don’t mean to be cold here, but I think I’m not alone in, over the years, becoming accustomed to taking absolutely everything you say with a large helping of salt. I think this sanctimonious performance by some of contempt and concern is a little naïve to say the least.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Cap it off with SFX of a lion's roar and the chittering of insects...
Oh.
Everyone's moved on.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
quote:Originally posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher:
quote:Originally posted by fish: he was stamping on my head in time with screaming stuff like "Don't" <stamp> "fucking" <stamp> "talk" <stamp> "that" <stamp> "way" <stamp> "about" <stamp> "my" <stamp> "fucking" <stamp> "wife!" <stamp> <stamp>.
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
A fight is one thing, but stamping on someone's head?!? You can kill somebody like that!
Not in espadrilles you can't.
I'm not going to argue with Fish - for pretty obvious reasons. If anyone want's an impartial account of that evening, Bandy can maybe offer it - he saw the extent to which I was provoked by someone supposedly 'a friend'.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Oh, Roy!
Also...
[What Ringo said]
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
There's an atmosphere this afternoon, isn't there?
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
I see your point Ringo, and kovacs can't be too surprised if people can't always tell when he's being honest (which he genuinely is most of the time) or merely arch and playful. However, the "contempt" that some have expressed is hardly naive, given the situation.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
I don't believe Fish's story. Ben's a middle aged man, and I think Fish could easily take him in a fight.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: Not in espadrilles you can't.
ben, you've got the same lawyer as Roy!
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: If anyone want's an impartial account of that evening...
Look out. This is not ben.
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben:
quote:Originally posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher:
A fight is one thing, but stamping on someone's head?!? You can kill somebody like that!
Not in espadrilles you can't.
Which makes it acceptible, I suppose.
If someone's curled up on their side, on the floor and you kick them in the stomach, they can at least slide backwards on the ground; there's no resistance from behind. If you stamp on someone's head, ie., with their head on solid ground, where's all that energy going to go, ben?
I'm not saying that kicking someone when they can at least budge the other way is acceptible, but stamping on someone's head... Jesus.
[ 17.03.2006, 09:06: Message edited by: Purple Monkey Dishwasher ]
Posted by kovacs (Member # 28) on :
Do you understand. Not a joke. Not a hoax. Not an imaginary story.
Not an attempt for sympathy. Not a prompt for debate. Not a request for Rick to delve into an objective revisionist enquiry as to what really happened.
I posted above because it made me sick reading Roy's offhand, lighthearted remarks about the people he's hit hard. More generally, the notion being bandied about on this thread that punching and being punched might be a laugh somehow is bullshit, and I don't want to let it stand.
You don't have to believe me. Believe Modge, Bailey, Ben, Omikin, Vogon Poetess or Thorn, because Modge cracked a month ago and felt she had to tell a few people what had happened. She was finding it hard to stomach watching someone who threatened both of us in our own house becoming the cheeky-chap hard-man on TMO.
I lasted a few weeks longer before I realised I didn't owe Roy this "protection".
I wasn't asking for sympathy or even expecting much sensitivity -- but I'd have liked to see a bit of sense in the responses. Don't hold your breaths for my next post.
Posted by fish (Member # 22) on :
quote:Originally posted by ben: I'm not going to argue with Fish - for pretty obvious reasons. If anyone want's an impartial account of that evening, Bandy can maybe offer it - he saw the extent to which I was provoked by someone supposedly 'a friend'.
I was FUCKING JOKING you psycho bastard!!!!
Anyway bandy's the last person to ask for an impartial account. It was him that persuaded me not to go to the police.
You better watch yourself, just because you sent me that money doesn't mean i can't still press charges.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote: After a line or two of coke he took off his shirt and glasses and threatened to kick me in, because I was being moody
How is anyone supposed to think that is not a joke?
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
I will stop posting on here now. I had no idea that Modge was upset about this to such an extent and although this may count for nothing, I really do apologise to you, Modge. You have suffered because of this and I have no wish for you to continue to do so.
I can also only echo Kovacs comments that this is not funny, it was a horrible, horrible thing and I really do regret and apologise for my part in it.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Question of the day:
Should We Ban Roy?
ETA: Irrelevant - he's already pulled the "you can't fire me because I quit" line.
[ 17.03.2006, 09:11: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
quote:Originally posted by Roy: No. I couldn't get beneath any layers. I sort of pulled the girl away using my hands around her breasts.
quote:Originally posted by Roy: Please don't let that be the last post on this thread.
You sure, Roy?
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by Black Mask: There's an atmosphere this afternoon, isn't there?
Bloody right, too. Well, I've wracked my brains trying to think of a fresh thread to start, because surely I'm not the only bastard on here who wants a lighter conversation, but the best I can come up with is haiku's related to untested medicine.
Any ideas, anyone??
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
quote:Originally posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher: Any ideas, anyone??
Maybe it's time for us to all pack this shit in.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
Kovacs I wouldn't be too upset at the reaction to be honest. I think it's only natural that people would use humour as a reaction in lieu of a more appropriate response to what is a fairly unprecidented occurance in forum history. People simply don't know how to respond to this and so are either complestely blasé about it, or extremely defensive. I don't think either is really the 'right' response, if there even is such a thing.
For what it's worth, I'd say that if this is as you say it is, the best thing Roy can do now is simply leave the forum.
If it came to it, for all I said in my last post, I'd rather not lose Kovacs from this forum.
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
This is about the darkest thing I think I've ever seen on TMO...
As an aside - PMD. Fish is definitely kidding. He really is. DOn't get wound up by the idea of stamping on people's heads. It didn't happen. At least, not to these people.
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
quote:For what it's worth, I'd say that if this is as you say it is, the best thing Roy can do now is simply leave the forum.
I agree, and if it turns out to be bullshit then everyone involved should fuck off too.
[ 17.03.2006, 09:16: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
I don't trust this thread..
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by scrawny:
As an aside - PMD. Fish is definitely kidding. He really is. DOn't get wound up by the idea of stamping on people's heads. It didn't happen. At least, not to these people.
*Takes deep breath*
Okay.
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
This isn't a wind up. The basic details happened and I do have my own side to this but this bollocks has gone on too long and I don't want to upset Modge et al.
So I am off.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by Roy: I will stop posting on here now.
quote:Originally posted by Roy: So I am off.
When will the lies end, Roy. When?
I'm gonna miss you buddy.
[ 17.03.2006, 09:20: Message edited by: ralph ]
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
I really like Roy
Poor Ralph Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: Question of the day:
Should We Ban Roy?
My vote = No
It sounds like the original assault on Kovacs was the extreme result of high jinks between to drunk mates. Although I've never hit anyone while drunk, I have done accidental "don't know your own strength" type damage, and I can imagine someone doing a lot more damage with a punch than they ever intended.
I've no idea about the second event, obviously, and what the fuck's it got to do with me anyway, but again, if there's drugs and several hours and people that have known each other since they were kids then nasty things can happen.
I've kicked in a front door in the past myself while having a drunk/drugged row with a best mate. That's what drunk/drugged is all about innit.
Obviously Kovacs and Modge are upset, and understandably, but jesumiso knows how many other people on here have got real life grievances amongst themselves.
Only real question is whether Roy bans himself because of these revelations. I think that would be unfortunate, just as it would be a horrible loss if Kovacs and Modge stopped posting.
Yeah, sod all to do with me. Just have trouble buttoning it don't I.
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
quote:Originally posted by dang65:
Yeah, sod all to do with me. Just have trouble buttoning it don't I.
quote:Originally posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher:
I'll stop posting now.
quote:Subsequently posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher:
Blah blah blah blah blah...
You're not the only one, hun. Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
I've got a conviction for ABH, should I ban myself ?
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
I don't think it's going to be any help if people start making assumptions about the events that caused Roy to hit Kovacs. There's no reasonable justification for that kind of thing. As someone who abhors violence and naturally violent people, this entire topic has made me feel extremely uncomfortable.
I think it's probably best that the entire thing is simply thrown down the TMO memory hole like so many other dark events in our history, and we just move on.
Posted by Kira (Member # 826) on :
this is the most bizarre thread I ever read...
I saw Kovacs post last night pretty much straight after he put it up.
I must admit that initially I wasnt sure if it was one of those TMO fiction specials written purely to garner a reaction.
I felt it would be unfair to comment until Roy had a chance to reply.
Having read this thread with ever wider eyes as the afternoon has gone on. I can only say that I am more than a little surprised. Also slightly disappointed.
I like both Roy and Kovacs. It was Kovacs that sparked initial interests those years ago when I started visiting TMO. Roy has been funny and friendly enough since then to make a really good impression on me.
I dont feel qualified to pass much more judgement on it other than to say I'm sorry that two people who were friends have fallen out so seriously over something that probably started out with more innocent intentions (although I have to say the very idea of 2 men really acting the fight club scenario a little ridiculous...its the kind of thing my mum would say authoritatively "well it was always going to end in tears"...)
So what else can you say?
I dont know...
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by Darryn.R: I've got a conviction for ABH, should I ban myself ?
Depends on what the hell ABH is.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by ralph: Depends on what the hell ABH is.
[ 17.03.2006, 09:29: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
Posted by Roy (Member # 705) on :
I'm not having anyone on here thinking that this was an 'attack'. It was a playfight that went very, very wrong.
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
It happens.
Posted by scrawny (Member # 113) on :
I know this 'What Ringo Said' stuff is now beyond cliché, but....what Ringo said.
Posted by Purple Monkey Dishwasher (Member # 867) on :
I think Ringo should become some kind of professional public speaker! Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
I wonder what other dark secrets lurk behind the friendly TMO façade?
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: I wonder what other dark secrets lurk behind the friendly TMO façade?
I'm Vanessa.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: I wonder what other dark secrets lurk behind the friendly TMO façade?
You don't want to go there Misc. Scratch the face of TMO and it's like a scene from V
[ 17.03.2006, 09:38: Message edited by: Ringo ]
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
oh pissflaps
[ 17.03.2006, 09:37: Message edited by: Ringo ]
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: I wonder what other dark secrets lurk behind the friendly TMO façade?
I've had two wives. Not at the same time of course.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by vikram:
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: I wonder what other dark secrets lurk behind the friendly TMO façade?
I'm Vanessa.
B...but I cybered with you...
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
quote:Originally posted by ralph: I've had two wives. Not at the same time of course.
Me too! Neither of them were mine though
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
Hey misc- I just took a look at the interloper site. Very nice; quite pleasing to the eye. Did you work on it in any way? Also, for the love of God...eat something, would ya?! Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
I wouldn't blame Darryn is he were to lock this thread now.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by ralph: Hey misc
Shh... we don't mention it anymore.
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
Don't you think it would just spring up again elsewhere with even more flourish ?
Posted by Bandy (Member # 12) on :
I guess even gay ninjas have to flip out from time to time.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
[ 17.03.2006, 09:59: Message edited by: New Way Of Decay ]
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
quote:Originally posted by Darryn.R: Don't you think it would just spring up again elsewhere with even more flourish ?
I'm not sure. It might do, but I don't see that any good can really come of discussing it.
If this thread had a soundtrack it would be Everybody Hurts Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: B...but I cybered with you...
Got a cigarette?
Posted by Bandy (Member # 12) on :
What was the laptop you had Vanessa?
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
I don't want to unneccesarily link to my band website (again), but one of the comments on *this page seems eerily relevant:
quote: Roy (17.02.2006, 20:01): Great track. It would be really good to have a ruck to this.
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: I don't want to unneccesarily link to my band website (again), but one of the comments on *this page seems eerily relevant:
quote: Roy (17.02.2006, 20:01): Great track. It would be really good to have a ruck to this.
Yeah, but that's Roy. Let's face it, it could be the theme from Love Story and he'd probably think the same thing.
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
quote:simply disgusting you poor taste gutter junkies
lol
Posted by Bandy (Member # 12) on :
My uncle used to work on the rigs too. Last year he decided to have an affair with my aunt's cousin, hoping nobody would find out. I guess all of the oil and riggy-riggy-ho-ho must go to your head or something.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
It's the fumes.
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
Before Daz locks this thread:
I am not Vanessa!
sorry. was trying to be funny. um.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by vikram: I am not Vanessa!
sorry. was trying to be funny. um.
And I didn't cyber with Vanessa. Um.
I cybered with vikram though, and it blue my mind.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Something about this isn't right...
Posted by jnhoj (Member # 286) on :
The last time I was in London I met up with benway and Mikee, and Mikee's friend.
Turns out Nwod is pretty much a racist, wouldn't leave his poor half caste friend alone all night, making him take his clothes off for our gratification, mocking his ancestory, sometimes I do wonder about the people on here, I really do.
[ 18.03.2006, 07:37: Message edited by: jnhoj ]
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
He had his skin bleached after that.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
Posted by jnhoj (Member # 286) on :
ahahahha kovac's wife had to stick up for him hahahha
[ 18.03.2006, 09:45: Message edited by: jnhoj ]
Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
Jesus, I left TMO alone for ONE day and look what happened!
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
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That sucks ass. It's not like in Kung Fu films where they take you on one at a time and you have enough time to pull an assortment of weapons from a wooden cart. I've been lucky enough never to have been punched by someone very big, because I'm sure I would just instantly die. I have however had plenty of experience to know that being punched in the face blows pretty fucking hard. Now that I look back. I've been punched a few times. Man I need to address that.
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