This made me laugh, as it is something I last heard in the 1970s in the school playground. Is Tanni making a big deal out of this, or should Tiger be taken on an 'empathy tour' of a local mentalist hospital?
[ 11.04.2006, 07:43: Message edited by: Samuelnorton ]
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by Samuelnorton: Is Tanni making a big deal out of this, or should Tiger be taken on an 'empathy tour' of a local mentalist hospital?
I have no clue who Tanni is, but having heard the Tiger Woods interview live, I took it as nothing more than Tiger simply saying he played poorly. Tanni should shut the fuck up. Perhaps the word spaz has a slightly different meaning in the UK?
Posted by omikin (Member # 37) on :
what on earth has cerebral palsy got to do with a "mentalist hospital" norton?
you really are as stupid as you look sometimes.
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
quote:Originally posted by Samuelnorton: Is Tanni making a big deal out of this
Well, not really.
quote:"I thought it was a stupid comment but I won't get upset by it because there are bigger battles to fight and I bet he won't say it again."
Being oversensitive is one thing - being oversensitive about the possibility of others being oversensitive starts to look like you're spoiling for a non-scrap to fight, a straw man to skewer.
Posted by Samuelnorton (Member # 48) on :
quote:Originally posted by omikin: what on earth has cerebral palsy got to do with a "mentalist hospital" norton?
When the term 'spaz' - and others like 'Joey' - were used in school playgrounds during the 1970s I very much doubt that people would have bothered to ask the above question.
Posted by omikin (Member # 37) on :
this is not the 1970's, this is not the playground, hence the question.
Posted by Honeybaby (Member # 543) on :
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[ 12.04.2006, 06:59: Message edited by: Honeybaby ]
Posted by Samuelnorton (Member # 48) on :
quote:Originally posted by omikin: this is not the 1970's, this is not the playground, hence the question.
I asked the question because I get the view that the US is at the same stage now regarding the disabled, handicapped, whatever you want to call them as we were back in the late 1970s and early 1980s here.
'Spaz' seems to still be a throwaway word which has still not been connected to the term 'might cause offence'.
Ralph? Any take on this?
Posted by omikin (Member # 37) on :
apologies if my question wasn't clear, rick. i was asking you why someone with cerebral palsy would be in a "mentalist hospital" i.e. an institution for those with mental illness. cerebral palsy is not a mental illness.
i realise you weren't exactly going out of your way to use the correct terminology, but you still demonstrated at best a certain level of thoughtlessness, and at worst a positive desire to offend.
so back to my question - why would someone with cerebral palsy be in an institution for those with mental illnesses?
Posted by Samuelnorton (Member # 48) on :
quote:Originally posted by omikin: so back to my question - why would someone with cerebral palsy be in an institution for those with mental illnesses?
They wouldn't. However the sort of person who would use the word 'Spaz' might well believe that they would. Moreover one can argue that CP is a mental disease, as it is caused by parts of the brain being underdeveloped.
Don't ruin the thread, now.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
quote:Originally posted by Samuelnorton: 'Spaz' seems to still be a throwaway word which has still not been connected to the term 'might cause offence'.
Ralph? Any take on this?
You nailed it. The word spaz, while meant to be offensive, is not meant to be offensive in the way Tanni suggests. In the states, spaz still denotes lacking coordination, and was obviously not meant as an attack on the handicapped.
Posted by omikin (Member # 37) on :
don't patronise me, rick.
i was pointing out that if your original (now edited) post was meant to ask if usage of this word was different in the US from the UK, then it failed, and you only managed to show you're trying to get cheap laughs based on your fond playground memories.
if you have friends or family members who are "disabled, handicapped, whatever you want to call them" you tend to find these sorts of things much less funny.
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
I thought snorton had flounced?
Posted by omikin (Member # 37) on :
no, he's still coming up with quality contributions like the above.
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
I like how he said he'd post up until he couldn't anymore, which is when you think about it, a clever bluff. It would strike me that Darryn wouldn't bother to delete someones account when they could actually leave if they really meant it. So in a ways, by not actually following his own apparent convictions, is making himself look wanted. It's clever. I'm impressed.
Posted by Honeybaby (Member # 543) on :
quote:Originally posted by omikin:
if you have friends or family members who are "disabled, handicapped, whatever you want to call them" you tend to find these sorts of things much less funny.
On the contrary, since my mum became a cripple, the world of disabled humour has opened up to me. Apparently it's Ok to find disableds funny if you have experience of looking after one.
Posted by omikin (Member # 37) on :
it probably varies by individual, honeybaby, but i have to disagree with you.
Posted by doc d (Member # 781) on :
quote:Originally posted by Samuelnorton: Moreover one can argue that CP is a mental disease, as it is caused by parts of the brain being underdeveloped.