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Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
Forums only really spark up properly when there's one or two people desperately fighting a completely different corner to everyone else.

What potentially controversial opinion do you hold which you'd be willing to argue solidly in favour of for up to three weeks at a time, day and night? (Or for a couple of hours anyway.)

If we can get a little list of topics from stubborn and quite possibly unhinged posters then maybe one of them will kick off into a proper flamewar.

Off the top of my head then...

1. Massive bank robberies are brilliant and should happen far more often.

2. Black people should be freely entitled to call each other "niggers" if they want, but that does not mean that the word is ok now for white people to use.

3. School run mums are only a tiny contributing factor to road congestion during rush hour.

4. Professional footballers are paid a fair wage and people should stop picking on them for it.

Either add more, or start piling in.

If you want.

No, not "if you want"... just fucking do it, now, you fucking vegetables.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Due to a powerful tiredness last night, I spent three hours eating LIDL mexican tortillas and watching Knight Rider (the one with a bearded evil Garthe Knight), Walker Texas Ranger (which involved an alien conspiracy) and DOG - The Bounty Hunter (in which DOG's son Leland refused to travel in the same car as DOG because DOG had a cold).

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I thoroughly enjoyed these programmes.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Cyclists are every bit as rude as other road users.

I've been cycling to work the last couple of weeks and I've been surprised by the number of inconsiderate arseholes who glide ahead of me when I'm stopped at traffic lights (I do stop for them, sometimes) and then, on green, instead of sprinting off in a hurry they amble away like they're cycling in the fucking park. They're not speedy and impatient they're just ignorant pushy arseholes. Bit irritating. And the number of cyclists who just weave about... Cuh! Oh, and earphones. How fucking stupid are cyclists who choose to block out 50% of their life-saving sensory input? Plus, they can't hear me when I shout 'Move it!' as I overtake them.
 
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
1. Massive bank robberies are brilliant and should happen far more often.

Exactly right, I'm afraid. When you recall the reaction to the Great Train Robbery, the chests of an entire nation were puffed up with secret pride - news readers reporting big heists are always careful to emphasise what a 'terrifying ordeal' it all was for the bank staff etc as if to remind us not to enjoy the story too much.

Practically the only crime I enjoy hearing about more is anything involving English football hooligans - which, again, contributes massively to national morale.

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Bex Bissell - a national treasure
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ben:
anything involving English football hooligans - which, again, contributes massively to national morale.

It's true. And when you hear about some soppy **** getting stabbed by a Turk the first thing to flash through your head is "You just wait 'til the fucking return leg, sunshine!"
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Cyclists are every bit as rude as other road users.

I can't really dispute this, except to say that there are a large number of cyclists who really dislike RLJs (red light jumpers) and pavement hoppers etc, mainly because of the reputation it gives to all of us.

This doesn't seem to happen with car drivers where each individual driver (including me, I confess) thinks they are a good driver and everyone else is shit, and thinks that everyone else is causing congestion apart from them. With cyclists, it's more a case of acknowledging that there are tossers out there that give us all a bad reputation, but most regular riders stick to the rules and try to avoid trouble.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
This is a bit of a damp squib so far. There must be some loon out there that thinks ID cards area great idea, or breastfeeding should remain illegal in public, or smoking shouldn't be banned in pubs or something. *cough* *cough cough cough* That's cleared it.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
That David Hockney was funny yesterday when he was moaning about the "dreary" people that have banned smoking, and where has the "awkward squad" gone that would have stood up against the ban in the olden days.

As someone pointed out in the paper today, it's the awkward squad that finally managed to get the ban in place. D'oh.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
So... the argument fell on deaf ears?
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
Older drivers should, upon reaching the ripe old age of sixty, have to re-take their driving test every five years - obviously at a reduced concession.

The number of times I've almost had cars crash into me, only to spot either a wrinkly, squinting male bonce, or one of those 'standard OAP £2-50 special perms' sitting starry-eyed behind the wheel, is beyond me.

Another common OAP driver occurrence is when they are joining the motorway from a slip road and fail to look anywhere other than directly in front of them, resulting in situations where one has to account for their failure to notice you. It makes my toes curl the number of times I've seen cars in front of me having to swerve dangerously out of the way of these spatially unaware, death-inducing motorway occupants. Obviously this has happened to me a number of times, but you can really appreciate the danger they cause when viewing the spectacle from a few cars behind.

Also: the majority of old drivers' parking capabilities disappear along with their sanity at a certain age. Only last month, whilst enjoying a meal in a Spanish restaurant, I witnessed the most diabolical attempt at parking I had ever seen. The woman, clearly in her 70s/80s, after several failed 'manoeuvres', gave up and simply reversed her vehicle into the one that was easily affording her a good fifteen feet or so in which to park hers. My mouthful of red wine spurted on to the restaurant window at this. The woman? She just climbed gradually out of her car and walked away quickly, thinking that she hadn't been spotted.

I think it would benefit the entire population if such test re-takes came into force for potential killer OAP drivers.

(And please. No predictable comments re: drivers who dislike tailgaters being fined for tapping their brakes occasionally. [Smile] )
 
Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I've been doing all those things since I passed my test 12 years ago. Being an OAP has got nothing to do with it.

Also: When I'm cycling, I always jump red lights and hop on and off the pavements. That's a big advantage of being on a bike you see. You can just do whatever you want.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
Also: When I'm cycling, I always jump red lights and hop on and off the pavements. That's a big advantage of being on a bike you see. You can just do whatever you want.

Yeah, I used to do that, but then about 15 years ago a policeman told me that apparently you can't. I know, I was surprised too. Even more so when he made me pay a fine.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Yeah I do all that crazy stuff on my bike as well, particularly when carrying out a massive bank robbery - it just means a faster get-away onto the motorway.

I don't really need to rob banks as I earn fucking loads as a professional footballer, but a big heist is so exciting that it's well worth the risk.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
God Zygote you even get road rage when you're not actually driving. You need to get help mate. I'm saying this for your benefit.

I've found recently that my Volvo is met with looks of horror and confusion because of how i drive it.

At first glance it would appear to be the car of an old geezer, with its comedy ride height, windscreen half covered with stickers from various animal shelters and wildlife parks, the Ichthus fish on the back, etc etc. But then they noticed that it's moving faster than they expect. And becasue its wheels are from a VW with wider tyres than standard, it grips to a ridiculous amount while rolling practically onto its side.

There are probably few things more startling on the road, than a white, rusty 1980s Volvo 340, slithering sideways round a roundabout while its aging suspension creaks and groans underneath in protest.
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
I've been doing all those things since I passed my test 12 years ago. Being an OAP has got nothing to do with it.

This is true. I think everyone should have to take a retest, once a year.
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
God Zygote you even get road rage when you're not actually driving. You need to get help mate. I'm saying this for your benefit.

W-what? Pfft. Right, I'm off to make my egg soldiers.
 
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
 
lol - the 'much better' ideas that the public came up with for the 2012 logo in plagiarised idea shocker.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Just ban all cars (apart from those used for ice racing). Imagine how much better the country would look without roads. To compensate for the inconvenience, extend the London Underground into the English Underground, spanning from Land's End to Berwick upon Tweed.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
it's going to be a fun weekend for my shitty Volvo. It's going to be on the receiving end of some lowering blocks for the leaf springs, new tougher springs for the front suspension, a new clutch, the carburettor is being rebuilt, the holes in the exhaust are being temporarily patched up, and we're going to weld the differential solid so I can take it drifting next month. The best thing, I've spent maybe £150 tops.

After this the bodywork will need attacking with an angle grinder, mig welder, some sheet steel and body filler. Oh and lots and lots of Halfords spraycans. It's probably going to look shite afterwards but at least there wont be holes in the floor and doors any more.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Pics?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
None yet. I'm going to take some pictures this weekend while I'm working on it.

I've got a set of pretty hardcore looking dished minilite wheels with black spokes to go on there but they need tyres at the moment and it's not something I can afford till next month. Also going to need some hubcentric spacers and spigot rings to keep them on there properly. Plus with a 2" drop at the rear I don't want it fouling anything.

This car is going to be so comedy.

We're thinking of making up a side exit exhaust for it and removign the silencers so it screams and pops out flames.
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
This car is going to be so comedy.

Speaking of comedy car antics, my girlfriend's parents decided to buy her a ticket to Thruxton race track, to drive a Lotus Exige for the day. Question is: do the cars have dual controls or is the instructor's life literally in the driver's hands when the laps commence?

ETA: The ticket was a surprise 30th birthday present. She's not a spoilt brat.

[ 13.06.2007, 09:14: Message edited by: Zygote ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Don't worry - Thruxton's a piece of piss. At least it was on TOCA. Flat out all the way round, then shit yourself and hope you can find a way through the chicane immediately before the start/finish straight. Take that Alain!

Tell your girlfriend that when it all goes wrong, she'll get most enjoyment from a quick handbrake turn, followed by driving the wrong way round the track, aiming for oncoming cars. The instructor will keep saying "You're going the wrong way" for a while, but just ignore him.
 
Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Tell your girlfriend that when it all goes wrong, she'll get most enjoyment from a quick handbrake turn, followed by driving the wrong way round the track, aiming for oncoming cars.

This, she will probably do anyway. Should make for an entertaining spectacle at least. [Cool]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
cockmongs

edit - Oh it is working

[ 13.06.2007, 12:16: Message edited by: Ringo ]
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Miscan Dringo both scare me when they drive sometimes.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
What? Misc let Felix control the gears all the way to Croydon. I pinched a loaf the shape of an e-type.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Fight me you floppy *****!
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I don't care if you get scared when I drive. I'm scared of spiders, it doesn't follow that my fear stems directly from a quantifiable danger.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
What? Misc let Felix control the gears all the way to Croydon. I pinched a loaf the shape of an e-type.

Yes, that was excellent - especially when he forgot to wait for me to hit the clutch. Also, Remember that time we nearly died on the M4? Ah, great days...
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
oNE OF YOU IS RESPONSIBLE.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
quantifiable danger.

Warning: you are not 007
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
I think that think tanks should be made up of homless people and the insane - they should be given shelter and care, and left to talk, debate and think about what ever they want - and then the most incoherent one gets to present their findings at the UN.
 
Posted by Lickapaw#2 (Member # 1049) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Cyclists are every bit as rude as other road users.

I've been cycling to work the last couple of weeks and I've been surprised by the number of inconsiderate arseholes who glide ahead of me when I'm stopped at traffic lights (I do stop for them, sometimes) and then, on green, instead of sprinting off in a hurry they amble away like they're cycling in the fucking park. They're not speedy and impatient they're just ignorant pushy arseholes. Bit irritating. And the number of cyclists who just weave about... Cuh! Oh, and earphones. How fucking stupid are cyclists who choose to block out 50% of their life-saving sensory input? Plus, they can't hear me when I shout 'Move it!' as I overtake them.

Actually, I'm firmly in this corner with you. I've seen cylists on the road with a mobile in one hand, doing a text. Paying no attention to who/what they're about to plough into.

Another one got me last week [Mad] I was on my way home and some dog-shit-bitch-troll with obviously no eyes to speak of rolled (not even pedalled!) up to me, wiggling her front wheel like cyclists do when they're asking you which way you're going to go so they can go the opposite way. I got out of the way and she went the same f'in way!.

Her wheel got lodged right between my legs, thankfully leaving nothing but a few dusty marks. She said, 'sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry' while I dismounted and rode off, my eyes burning two holes in her back.

Oh, yes! My controversial bit:

People with cancer have usually brought it on themselves.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lickapaw#2:


People with cancer have usually brought it on themselves.

How the fuck do you make that out?
 
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
 
Eating red meat, smoking, going in sunlight...twats.
 
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
 
Mobile phones!...standing under electricity lines...i could go on...oh yeah - sucking cock! That gives you mouth cancer now!
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Abby:
Eating red meat, smoking, going in sunlight...twats.

wait a minute? Twats give you cancer? Shit!
 


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