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Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
 
O Christ.

Peter Jackson breaks fresh ground by shooting historical fantasy epic with dragons.

quote:
Téméraire is a terrific meld of two genres that I particularly love - fantasy and historical epic," Jackson laughs. "I can't wait to see Napoleonic battles fought with a squadron of dragons. That's what I go to the movies for."
*wanking gesture*

Is there anything to look forward to at the cinema this autumn?
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
I'm thinking of going to see Helen Mirren being the Queen. Well, I am going to see Helen Mirren being the Queen, because my Mum is making me take her.
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
Children of Men looks alright
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
There's a movie coming out based on the book 'Our Band Could Be Your Life', about the 80s/90s US punk and indie scene. It's a... Rockumentary, if you will... about Minor Threat, Black Flag, Suicidal Tendencies, The Circle Jerks, Minutemen, Butthole Surfers, Meat Puppets, etc;

I have no idea what the movie's called, though.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Oh, plus, Spidey3, Ghost Rider and the Borat movie.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Oh, American Hardcore
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Black Dahlia out on Friday based on James Ellroy's second best (after The Big Nowhere) book. Most of Ellroy's books are better than anything else that's ever been written, so the film should be worth a look. Directed by Brian De Palma isn't exactly a copper bottomed seal of approval but he's capable of brilliance (Carlito's Way and... er... that bit in Mission IMpossible where they abseil into the vault) when the mood takes him. Hopefully he'll provide the technical savvy and the source material will provide the plot and character. Advance word is good; probably the only film I've been really looking forward to for the past 12 months.

[ 12.09.2006, 16:55: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
 
Posted by Bandy (Member # 12) on :
 
I am an idiot so will therefore enjoy the new Will Ferrell film :mong:
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
I'm going with a friend to see This Film Is Not Yet Rated tonight. Looks good.
 
Posted by clark (Member # 890) on :
 
I'm curious about Sofia Coppola's 'Marie Antoinette'. I reckon that might be worth a cinema visit (I think it's out at the end of October). Scoresese is also shooting a remake of the ace 'Infernal Affairs' - so that should be great in theory (if he ever finishes it!).
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
bah. The film doesn't need remaking.
 
Posted by clark (Member # 890) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Benway:
bah. The film doesn't need remaking.

agreed! but i still think this could be pretty decent film.
 
Posted by Bandy (Member # 12) on :
 
We warched Little Miss Sunshine last night which was (predictably) brilliant. Great cast, wonderful script.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Went to see The Black Dahlia yesterday and was kind of disappointed. I knew in my heart of hearts that it probably wasn't going to be as good as L.A. Confidential, but I really wanted it to be.

So. The bad news is that it's not awesomely brilliant. Josh Hartnett does a decent job with Bucky Bleichert, but he's simply not a strong enough actor to carry the entire film. If you look at Dahlia's greatest precessors - films like Chinatown and The Big Sleep - you're talking about leading men like Jack Nicholson and Humphrey Bogart. Josh Hartnett is hardly in the same league, and the movie suffers as a result. Also the pacing is a bit off. The story requires that a portion of the start of the film is spent with everything going fantastically well for the main characters, which means the first 20 minutes or so are a bit dramaless. And the ending gets kind of fucked up due to one of the most ridiculous acting performances ever captured on film. I can't even begin to describe it, but it belongs to the same league of super-over acting as the guy in the leather trenchcoat in Battle Royale II.

The good news: The movie looks fantastic. It's really beautifully filmed, and there are some incredible shots including a genuinely breathtaking moment involving Aaron Eckhardt's face dominating the foreground as he smokes outside, while Josh Hartnett carries on a conversation way, way towards the back of the house. It's a great moment that fits stylistically and thematically. There are other great moments too: a crazy riot, a fantastic boxing match. The casting videos that the Dahlia made before her death are appropriately pathetic and the details of her demise are haunting enough that you can believe that the investigators are getting sucked in to hideous depths from which they can't recover. It's just not all great, unfortunately. I think in the end I really badly wanted it to be as brilliant as the book .

The trailer for The Departed looked brilliant though. I think I'll hold off seeing Internal Affairs until I've seen the Scorsese version.

[ 18.09.2006, 05:35: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Aces!
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
that looks way better than i thought it would.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
Saw the trailer for Blonde in front of Severance, looks very promising.

I will be seeing Children of Men, and I'm quite up for The Queen, but mostly I'm trying not to get myself in too much of a lather over the prospect of new Fascist Spain set Guillermo Del Toro fantasy opus Pan's Labyrinth.
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
Saw Borat last night. It translates pretty well from small to big screen. I hate to say it, but it works. The beginning, set in his home village, is brilliant. Horribly stereotypes of course, but very very witty. The America stuff is a series of vignittes similar to the tv show (perhaps scenes from it - don't know, don't watch it), tied together with a roadtrip to LA plot. There were moments where I found myself laughing out loud. The audience - and mostly they didn't look like imbeciles - clapped and cheered several times during the movie. For whole sections I'd have my hand over my mouth, gasping / cringeing at Borat's latest stunt. My main problem: what was real and what was staged? Most of it is acted, I am sure. Which is a pity.

Anyway, as someone that doesn't much like Sascha Baron Cohen's stuff (especially Ali G), I give this 7/10.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Tonight I am going to watch 'Keane', which promises to be miserable and distressing. If I don't rush straight from the NFT into the Thames then I might report back tomorrow. But here are my predicted keywords: "Heart breaking", "stunning central performance", "cool, restrained direction", "sensitive". As you may have guessed, it is not about the violent Manchester United football player of the same name.

[ 27.09.2006, 11:00: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
Tonight I am going to watch 'Keane', which promises to be miserable and distressing.

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Indeed.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
you can tell that big faced tom is thinking about how wasted he's going to get in the very near future. He looks kind of...tense..

[ 28.09.2006, 07:53: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Just got back from seeing The Departed. Now that is the motherfucking good shit.
 
Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
 
It's a Hollywood remake of Infernal Affairs...

Hmpf. That's what I have to sat about The Departed. I was all excited about it, but did he give Infernal Affairs ANY credit whatsoever? Nope.
 
Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
 
I'll still go see it though.
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
I also just got back from seeing The Departed. It truly is the motherfuckiing good shit.
4 and a half Garys. Only missed the 5 for being slightly too long so I sat for the last 45 minutes with legs crossed wishing I hadn't had the Bucket-'o-Diet-Coke.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
I'll be using one of my free tickets (1/3) to go and see it, probably in the week next week.

Also looking forward to;

Borat
Spiderman 3

and the new bond trailer looks great.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Watched Akira and City of the Living Dead, both of which I've seen before. Both good in their own way. I heard Kermode talking about The Departed, and decided against it, having already seen Infernal Affairs plenty of times.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
A fascinating update there. In other media news, I bought Metroid 2 for the Gamecube and had a go last night, getting as far as just past the first boss. While doing this, I also listened to the new Adam and Joe Coke music podcasts. On saturday I downloaded and listened to a fair bit of Necro,who has got to the most pervy rapper alive.

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as well as The Bladerunner Soundtrack, an Ed Bogas soundtrack, and went down memory lane with some of those 'mash up' things that I did a years or so ago. I also watched two episodes of the Brittas Empire on Bravo, and watched Extras and Adult Swim on Teleport Replay. And I had a few rounds on a Mario themed Reversi against Louise using our DS Lites while at the launderette, and she beat me every time.

I'm becoming slightly obssessed with some of the Adult Swim stuff, namely Sealab 2021 and Tom Goes To the Mayor.

[ 09.10.2006, 05:31: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Consumed:
2 x glasses white wine
1 x beer - fosters (can)
slice of chocolate cake
roast dinner
pringles BBq flavour (approx 7)
lemon cake 2 slices
rice crispies (multivitamin) with soya milk (so good chilled)
BLT sandwhich
Mango frappe
Organic Musli, soya milk
Fajitas x 3
Mini jaffa cakes x 6

Highs:
Halo 2 went up three levels (now level 19)
Finished "The Game" by Neil Strauss
Met with large group of friends - sociable

Lows:
Shopping Centre failure to buy anything
Failed attempt at sex with partner
Masturbated to sky xxx phonesex channel with the sound off.
Failed to kiss female friends on cheek and overcome intimacy issues.
Failed to identify alpha male of group
Failed to become alpha male of group

[ 09.10.2006, 06:06: Message edited by: not... ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
that's quite a lot of eating there, not. I attempted to deep fry some quid last night. I was suspicious of the recipe suggesting that I could simply 'coat the squid in flour' and then drop into the oil. As I suspected, the flour just fell off, sank to the bottom of the pan, and burned. It created a huge thick cloud of smoke that soaked into every piece of clothing that wasn't shut away. I said to Louise just before I put it in, I said "Surely I should have made some batter rather than just using flour!?". I used a self raising flour/cornflour mix that I bought as Tempura flour, but it didn't help. Anyway, as a result, I reek of burned oil today. The squid was okay, but kind of tasteless and tough.

Other things I ate were a stir fry, some kind of sushi hand roll cornet from Wasabi, and a flame grilled meat in a bun thingy from a kebab shop by the launderette. Also had some pringles, which left me feeling sick and ashamed. And I drank around 10 bottles of beer and 3 pints over the course of the weekend.

Sorry to hear about your wank / alpha male thing, not. The best thing to do is just cut contact with all other men. Then you're always alpha male.

[ 09.10.2006, 06:25: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
That was over the course of a weekend so not too much really. I'm going to have to eat some more japanese food soon. I really really have a yearning for some terriyaki chicken and beef cooked on a teppan table. I'd like to have some sushi with it but I have only eaten california rolls, which, I think are salmon. Which is not really very adventurous is it?

Man I'm hungry.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
best way to do it is coat in flour, dip in egg and then roll in breadcrumbs - so you have a little production line going

then plate that and let it sit in the fridge before frying

fry hot, bit by bit so oil doesn't drop in temperature

robert is the brother of one of your parents
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:


Sorry to hear about your wank / alpha male thing, not. The best thing to do is just cut contact with all other men. Then you're always alpha male.

Not necessarily. You might still be a beta male, or worse, and everybody would know it, and whenever an alpha male walked past, just to go to the bar to get some more pints, maybe scratching his ballsac as he goes, swaggering a bit, all the ladies around you would be sneaking glances at him, thinking 'now there's an alpha. Why are we stuck with this delta piece of shit? Life's so unfair.' Sorry about this.

Hello, by the way.

[ 09.10.2006, 06:31: Message edited by: London ]
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I like the big slabs of raw tuna.

eta: Hello.

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Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
california rolls don't necessarily have anything in them except the (dressed) rice. at home i make them with cucumber or avocado, but you can pop anything you want in there really - prawn, crab stick, etc.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
mnnn wasabi
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I went to Wasabi a couple of weeks ago with TheLady and had both Bento (chilli pork and chicken rice) and Sushi (a bunch of stuff tuna, salmon, avocado) like the greedy bastard I am.

We then went to see this Japanese film, Arigato, at BAFTA which she'd got free tickets to.

The food was really good. The film was not.

[ 09.10.2006, 08:13: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
its pretty difficult to feel like youve really porked out on sushi though isnt, unless you have more money than god or know some really ace person who gives you loads of free sushi. i mean, i have never found myself thinking 'wow, i thought i had stacks of room left until i ate the seventh avocado roll, and then i realised that the equivalent of more than one level dessert spoon of sticky rice is just too much goddamn sticky rice for this little samurai!' thats just never happened to me.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dance margarita:
its pretty difficult to feel like youve really porked out on sushi though isnt, unless you have more money than god or know some really ace person who gives you loads of free sushi. i mean, i have never found myself thinking 'wow, i thought i had stacks of room left until i ate the seventh avocado roll, and then i realised that the equivalent of more than one level dessert spoon of sticky rice is just too much goddamn sticky rice for this little samurai!' thats just never happened to me.

That's why you have to eat at the teppan table, because you get proper food like steak and chicken which fills you up proper domo
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
thasswh'amsayin holmes. trace was calling himself 'greedy' for eating sushi and a proper meal; i was reassuring him that such behaviour does not betoken piggishness in the least, more a natural desire to enjoy the transport into a world of sensual delights that sushi provides and similataneously fill ones tum with the tasty fuel. which is not to say that boy racer is not a great greedy scoffwizard. he absolutely is, theres no doubt about it. but.

[ 09.10.2006, 08:51: Message edited by: dance margarita ]
 
Posted by Roy's shirt (Member # 898) on :
 
You can eat yourself stupid without breaking the bank at Kulu Kulu. Okay sushi and sashimi. Tempura. Grilled salmon, chicken and eel. They do the nice vegetable things, too. Braised aubergine, spinach with the nutty gloop, kimu-chi (kimchi with an 'u'), that tangy, crunchy seaweed salad with the sesame seeds on. It's in Brewer Street, the Regents Street end.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Ah, Kulu Kulu, excellent choice. I actually don't mind the Yo Sushi round the corner too much either.

Oh, and if not for sushi, but for Japanese, then also on Brewer St is a great place, which I have neglected to remember, but it's a couple along from the health place there, and has a picture of a little childs big head drawn on the sign.... Kind of like this

[Big Grin]

but with hair
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
Lol at the Wiz from Briz. Being described as a Scoffwizard just cheered my ill self up no end. Ta.

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Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
 
In my one moment as a media cnut, I went to the opening of Ubon, the Docklands branch of Nobu. Cunn(t)ingly positioning myself near the kitchen door meant that I ate so much sushi, and that fancy marinated cod stuff, that I did think I was going to be sick. Not helped by the free bolly, darling. However, I struggled manfully on, bravely putting away £100-worth of raw fish on my own.

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Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
you can stuff your face if you make it at home, though

we have california rolls loads at home - huge platters of 'em, which we gobble up till we can fit no more inside us. dead easy to make an'all.

i'm sounding like a **** , aren't i. sorry.
 
Posted by Roy's shirt (Member # 898) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
you can stuff your face if you make it at home, though

Yeah, but... you've got to get the rice, cook it, cut it with the special vinegar. Get the seaweed, prep all the veg and the fish. Roll it all up, cut it, dish out the wasabi, and soy and ginger. Unless you don't mind eating like a fucking barbarian, it's a big pain in the arse. You're much better off going to a sushi joint and getting a pro to do all the hard work for you. It'll taste a lot better, too. Most of the time.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
Yes, preparing food at home does involve, you know, preparing food. At home.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Sushi is really good social food - the last night my Japanese friends were here the drummer knocked up a right royal spread with the wraps, white rice and various sorts of fillings (fish, meat veg) with sauces including of course wasabi, which people just made their own handrolls with, plus sake and shouts of 'Kumpai' with every shot. Its not unlike the Duck and pancakes you get in chinese restaurants where you make them yourselves.

As you don't have the hassle of making small sushi portions beforehand it is not that difficult to prepare, and with the choices laid out for fillings theer should be something there for everyone - just get some smoked salmon, herring, sliced cucumber, fried mince, pork, chicken and you are pretty much there. Yum.
 
Posted by Roy's shirt (Member # 898) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mart:
Yes, preparing food at home does involve, you know, preparing food. At home.

Pillock.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
whatevs
 
Posted by Roy's shirt (Member # 898) on :
 
Yeah, 'whatevs'. You pointless fucking yahoo.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
Bit shirty this one.
 
Posted by mart (Member # 32) on :
 
do we know who it is?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I'm hoping it's Roy
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Give it up ralph, c'mon, he's not coming back.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I had given up. But recently one afternoon, after you had all left, I was looking through some old threads and stumbled across Darryn's most recent birthday thread. Hidden amongst the humorous images and well wishing was a post by Roy. Three months after he had flounced.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
What's the betting that *this page is in ralph's favorites?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
It wasn't, but it is now.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I can never remember any of the shit I write. I think it comes out like scrambled finger frequency.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Trailers I've been watching recently to get me excited about the future of the cinema;

Casino Royale - looks great - yeah he's uglier than usual, but who cares if he gets it right?
300 - might be a bit shouty and hammy, but looks great

oh and although the trailer makes it look like too much of a "i've seen pulp fiction 3000 times and now I'm making a film so there", Smokin' Aces looks fun.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Hey while we're being nostalgic, does anyone remember the TMO chatroom? that was ok.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
decided against it, having already seen Infernal Affairs plenty of times.

Fair comment. After all what can Martin Scorsese possibly bring to the table?

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Yeah, exactly. But what can he bring that the original doesn't have? The bloke I went with to the gig last night is into the same kind of films as me (and wrote the readable parts of Killing Time), and he pretty much said it was pacey with some good perfomances, but not as good as the original. I'm not dead against remakes. The Thing, The Fly, The Blob, even Dawn of The Dead were all excellent. But this seems kind of pointless to me, especially if it's as close to the original as my friend tells me. I suppose that I'm also kind of annoyed with the whole trend recently for remaking Asian fims. It makes financial sense of course, to release not 'quite as good' versions of films that have already proven their worth, but it gets under my skin all the same.

If scorsese did another 'after hours' or 'king of comedy' then I'd go to see it, but a remake of Infernal Affairs doesn't excite me.

However, The Holy Mountain, which is on at the London Film Festival, does, and I got a ticket to check this bad boy out. Can you believe that I haven't yet seen it?!

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
On that tip, anybody else going to the film festival?
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yeah well.
 
Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
Yeah, exactly. But what can he bring that the original doesn't have? The bloke I went with to the gig last night is into the same kind of films as me (and wrote the readable parts of Killing Time), and he pretty much said it was pacey with some good perfomances, but not as good as the original. I'm not dead against remakes. The Thing, The Fly, The Blob, even Dawn of The Dead were all excellent. But this seems kind of pointless to me, especially if it's as close to the original as my friend tells me. I suppose that I'm also kind of annoyed with the whole trend recently for remaking Asian fims. It makes financial sense of course, to release not 'quite as good' versions of films that have already proven their worth, but it gets under my skin all the same.

You and me both. It's as if Hollywood (or the west in general) can't come up with their own ideas. It's annoying...
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
In fairness, everybody is at it. The Hong Kong industry in particular rips off Japanese stuff much worse than Hollywood. Loads of films that came out after Ringu were 're-imaginings' of that concept. Check out this piece of shit. I've watched that and the sequel. Why? Because I'm a bonehead.


I suppose that Hollywood studios don't really take the risks that they used to when the great films were being made, and this is just another example. It's not just Asian cinema is it, as we've seen with the remaking of a load of seventies horror. I think that's why I loved The Kid Stays In The Picture so much. You got the sense of people going all out, overcoming incredible odds and backing crazy geniuses to make films that would be better than anything else before them. Now it's all so safe seeming.

However, as I said, remakes can be superb when there's a point to them, and they've always happened. For instance, did you know that the classic Buster Keaton film "fat chance" was a remake of an African film called "Ngikona Sala kahle Wena" (translated, "Big Supper Fertility tumble" )? Or that the Woody Allen comedy "Summer in the Park" was originally an English television drama of the same name? If you look into it, loads of films are remakes or rip offs of other, more obscure productions.

But this is me looking to a time when I wasn't even alive with ridiculously rose tinted specs. And I don't really know what I'm talking about, seeing as I haven't sat down in front of a proper star spangled Hollywood film in the cinema for a long time.

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Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Amy:
You and me both. It's as if Hollywood (or the west in general) can't come up with their own ideas. It's annoying...

I dunno. There's such an incredibly long tradition of people re-inventing stories for different audiences, it seems rash to dismiss something out of hand just because it's a remake. Obviously something like The Hills Have Eyes remake is creatively bankrupt and has nothing to offer in terms of style, excitement or anything at all, really, but then even if it wasn't a remake it'd still be a pointless and boring film.

You wouldn't dismiss Shakespeare's Othello just because you'd seen Hecatommithi, even though it closely follows the story of that original play. Similarly, you surely wouldn't write off Mozart's Marriage of Figaro as just an example of Viennesse composers running out of ideas. Whether it's a remake isn't really relevant if the end result is fresh, exciting and incisive - basically the same things you'd expect from any other film.

I don't know whether people always got so upset about remakes - I don't know whether people got stampy-foot over The Magnificent Seven for example. I wonder whether maybe people just feel more ownership over films than they used to, like buying Infernal Affairs and enjoying it makes it feel more like your film and therefore it's more of an affront if someone puts a different spin on the story. But, eh.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
There's some of semi-interesting discussion about this over on the imdb for Gus' Psycho remake. Not exactly the same, I know, but at least it tackled the debate head on. Seems like few people worked out what he was doing.

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Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
I think for me remakes have potential where the original (or the most recent previous version) has dated technically. King Kong being an example where the effects in the 1930s version looked really feeble. Mind you, so did the recent CGI effects version. It was the 1970s one in between which worked best for me, though I know it's generally derided.

I understand that Jackson is doing a remake of The Dambusters next, which also makes sense to me, assuming he gets it right this time. A great story and a good old B&W film, but some really badly dated special effects. Well, they were probably pretty bad in the first place in fact.

Actually, one wonders whether there might be a compromise available in the case of some of those great classics, where someone could go in and fix the special effects but leave the original actors and general classic atmosphere. Kind of a remaster, but actually replacing the terrible plasticine bits.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dang65:
I understand that Jackson is doing a remake of The Dambusters next, which also makes sense to me, assuming he gets it right this time.

Do you think that he'll change...you know...the...the dog's name?
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
That didn't go down very well when they tried it with Star Wars. Dang's post I mean. Not the dog called ni

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
It would be good if they did though. Release The Dambusters with the same footage apart from the actual dambusting, which is in glorious eye melting CGI, with andy serkis playing the part of the bomb.

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quote:
...and here you can see that I've curled into a sort of drum shape, to mimic the cylindrical nature of the bomb. To get it right I actually spent time living inside a replica of one of the original bombs [The Dambusters] used. It's funny, but after a few weeks I felt like I wasn't pretending to be a bomb, but I actually was a bomb. Peter used to joke with me on set that it would certainly explain my 'explosive personality', ha ha.

That's not true, by the way, I'm really very nice.



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Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
That didn't go down very well when they tried it with Star Wars. Dang's post I mean. Not the dog called ni

What's wrong with naming a dog after a central african country?

Oh...right...
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
west africa, dude
 
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
There is the option of getting Fiddy Cent to play Guy Gibson. End of problem.

Yeah, I remember the Star Wars CGI travesty. But I think machines and explosions and that tend to work quite well in CGI, and probably even better in slightly crackly black & white, in the dark, while it's raining.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Bastard lying maps [Mad]

V - recommend some tv...
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
i love spooks even more than i love myself. otherwise everything's a bit meh really. curb your enthusiasm is excellent. and the shield, i love that but it aint on at the moment.
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
also, they're doing another season of the o.c. which will be total shit for sure. i mean, third season was crap, but it was still seth and summer and ryan and marissa and so was great. but they've killed off marissa now so it hardly seems worth watching, though i probably will anyway no matter how bad it gets
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
well, I've had a pretty bad day, and am looking forward to getting home and watching Street Trash, that I finally got last night. I'll probably write something predictable and shallow on the subject of a film that nobody cares about tomorrow morning. So, one to look out for.
 
Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
Stuff he said...

I can't really argue with you, thorn. I'm just disappointed that infernal affairs isn't really getting its due.

Benway- Tower Records is going out of business and their Asian cinema selection is pretty good(at least the one near us does)...if you have a Tower Records on your side of the pond, it might be worth checking out. Movies are currently 10% off, but will get cheaper as their closing date gets closer.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I'm hoping to get to a couple of things at the Festival Benway, but it depends on how home improvements go.

Going to see Children of Men tonight, Departed soon.
 
Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
BR - I really liked Children of Men, it felt kind of like nothing was really happening in bits of it, but there are a couple of amazing segments in it. Let me know what you thought.

Departed today for me, plus I have Brotherhood taped (the Korean film, not the oirish gangsta tv thing where everyone wanders around shouting 'bot he's moi brudda')
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Amy:
I'm just disappointed that infernal affairs isn't really getting its due.

Well, I dunno how it is the States but every review, interview and article I've read about The Departed explicitly states the film's heritage, to the point where journalists appear to think that the title of the film is actually "The Departed, a remake of the 2002 Hong Kong drama Infernal Affairs". So it's not like the creative debt isn't being acknowledged.
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Benny the Ball:
Departed today for me, plus I have Brotherhood taped (the Korean film, not the oirish gangsta tv thing where everyone wanders around shouting 'bot he's moi brudda')

Good choice, watched that the other night and it was very good indeed, if disturbingly graphic at times.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I watched The Jacket yesterday. Not at the pictures, like, on DVD. It was ok. Kinda good I guess.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
nice work, ringers. Last night I checked out Street Trash, which wasn't as good as I was hoping. Didn't really have a proper story, just a bunch of stuff happening. Some people melted.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Tonight it's either "Graveyard of Honour" (yakuza) or "The Bedroom" (porn). Both have been gathering dust for a while now.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
Last night I checked out Street Trash

And you promised a review. [Frown]
 
Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
Tonight it's either "Graveyard of Honour" (yakuza)

Is that the Miike version? I've got the original of that in a box-set of Fukasaku's work, not bad from what I recall. The box set has that one, Cops vs Thugs and one other, all 3 have aged quite well really. I'd be interested to hear what the Miike remake is like.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
not the remake, but the original.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
Didn't make it to the cinema last night due to TheLady being ill, which was slightly annoying.

Watched Harold & Maude on dvd instead. Her Ladyship seemed concerned that the film was "made before she was born". [Confused]

[ 12.10.2006, 03:57: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
Lol@'the lady'. Am I the only person in the world to find the way that people refer to their paramours on here as intensely irritating? I mean, not just here, and not just you, BR - everybody on every board ever. It seems as though the only non-annoying way to do this is just to use their RL name. I hate it when people are like 'Mr London' or whatever. Sorry. It just seems to pointless. Or why not 'my girlfriend' or 'my boyfriend' or 'my wife'? Where did this irritating custom come from?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I'm pretty sure you started it.

However I always refer to Emma as Emma. Usually.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by London:
It just seems to pointless. Or why not 'my girlfriend' or 'my boyfriend' or 'my wife'? Where did this irritating custom come from?

Bit rich.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
I remember at a meet once Carter couldn't understand why 'Rose Davis' was called 'Rose Davis' if her real name wasn't 'Rose'. It took him ages to get it.

Also, I can't remember the last time someone referred to their partner as Mr [username], now I think about it. Most people now just use the real name, except for when they're actually with someone on the board in which case they use the username.

quote:
Originally posted by London:
It seems as though the only non-annoying way to do this is just to use their RL name.

As opposed to what? 'The Rapey Nerd' or 'The Abuser', or the dozens of other non-real life names you've given various partners on here over the last few years?

[ 12.10.2006, 04:48: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
I remember bitchslapping someone on here for calling their partner T'OtherAff. Can't remember who it was, now. You're right, London. Everytime I see TheLady or whatever it makes me want to physically shake the person responsible by the throat.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by London:
Lol@'the lady'. Am I the only person in the world to find the way that people refer to their paramours on here as intensely irritating? I mean, not just here, and not just you, BR - everybody on every board ever. It seems as though the only non-annoying way to do this is just to use their RL name. I hate it when people are like 'Mr London' or whatever. Sorry. It just seems to pointless. Or why not 'my girlfriend' or 'my boyfriend' or 'my wife'? Where did this irritating custom come from?

laugh out loud.

To clarify laughage:

Which terminology haven't you used London

Whether it be: Bumlove, My Wife, The Abuser or my most frequent most hated thing of all time: abbreviating someones name to just one letter, giving them some kind of fucking MI5 status or something.

Just at home today with M, doing a spot of DIY. It's not going well as I stopped for a cup of tea and M had rigged the teapot to self destruct. My face and hair is burnt - PMSL [Big Grin]

[ 12.10.2006, 04:53: Message edited by: New Way Of Decay ]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I usually refer to Mrs Mask and the Masketeers, as my partner and my kids have got fuck all to do with TMO, no one on here has ever met them or is ever likely to and calling them by name would benefit who? And how? Maybe, if the Mrs prefix grates, you could help me think up some faux-teeny-ditz-speak name for my woman? Or, perhaps, I could totally reinvent her in some self-consciously camp mould? That would be new and daring, wouldn't it?
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
Maybe, if the Mrs prefix grates, you could help me think up some faux-teeny-ditz-speak name for my woman?

I think you should call her The Booby.
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
I'd be tempted to, if I didn't despise that **** so entirely.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Mask:
that ****

That's no way to talk about your woman!
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
I don't mind the single letter one, or Mr/Mrs username, or rapey nerd or whatever, but I found "T'OtherAff" really annoying. Like a little joke you smile at at first but then it's repeated again and again and it just gets old really quick.

As for BR's "The Lady" and "Her Ladyship" - sounds a bit patronising, I imagine him putting on a posh voice and pulling a snobby face when he writes it. Again, it's one of those things that gets old quick, sorry BR.

[ 12.10.2006, 05:06: Message edited by: not... ]
 
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
 
I don't want to use Mr Herbs's real name as there's no reason to drag him into my weird internet freak world. So he's just R. Friends on here know his name.

"Mr Herbs" is twee, "Him Indoors" is self-consciously shit, "Vlad the Impaler" would be just weird.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
poor old BR gets another kicking on the internet.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I didn't watch graveyard of honour. In the end I watched the 2 hour documentary that came with street trash, listened to the gamespot podcast, watched a few youtubes, and then pathetically crawled around last.fm looking for new friends.
 
Posted by Roy's shirt (Member # 898) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by herbs:


"Mr Herbs" is twee,

Mr Herbs is only twee because Herbs is quite fruity already. Mr Herbs sounds like an ultra-camp Mexican hairdresser.
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
As opposed to what? 'The Rapey Nerd' or 'The Abuser', or the dozens of other non-real life names you've given various partners on here over the last few years?

Er. Ok. Point taken. I don't know what happened there. It was like I forgot... everything. I malfunctioned or something. It was wierd. Sorry everyone. Sorry Boy Racer. Sorry TMO.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Is London schizophrenic?
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Roy's shirt:
quote:
Originally posted by herbs:


"Mr Herbs" is twee,

Mr Herbs is only twee because Herbs is quite fruity already. Mr Herbs sounds like an ultra-camp Mexican hairdresser.
Looks like Mr Herbs has been a naughty boy anyway
spanky spanky (WS)
quote:
Mr Herb is shocked when he discovers Tina is panty less.

Spanky get back here now young lady!

Tina I am shocked. Herb draws back his red paddle and lets if float through the air until it contacts Tina's bare bottom. Crrrrrrrrrack. Then two more had swats follow. Craaaaack, Crrrrrrrrrack.

Now young lady go stand in that corner and hold your skirt up so we can all see just how naughty you are.


I will have to mention to Prof Mantis about the uniform checks.


Spanky, just where did you think you were going young lady?



[ 12.10.2006, 05:29: Message edited by: not... ]
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Schizophrenic is the new black.
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
are you attending spank school, not? Is this what you do when you're not dreaming about BAPE customised adidas trainers and pro-skateboarding?
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
not...

I don't think I need to ask you why you were looking at some kind of teacher/bondage site, but like, what the fuck man?

I've only had a quick browse of that and a cursory glance would suggest it seems to be some kind of role-play cum fetishistic den of sin.

I'm currently searching for Mr. Not.

Cool I was right.

Oh guys, it says there are way more female members on that board than male. That's why not is turning to another board instead of here. Now I'd think we'd better make up for this by getting Jimway to write some kind of shockingly brutal spank slash about Mr. Racer spanking amp so hard she falls out of her galoshes.

[ 12.10.2006, 05:44: Message edited by: New Way Of Decay ]
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
Lol.

I just didn't want to use her name, for similar reasons to Herb's, it's not everyone's business.

As for not's comments about it being patronising, I was kind of deliberately playing up to that.

Anyway... I was somewhat puzzled by her comment about H&M having been made before she was born?
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Is London schizophrenic?

I think the desire to attack Boy Racer was so strong that it just overcame all reason. I can't be the only one to have suffered from this, surely?
 
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by London:
I can't be the only one to have suffered from this, surely?

He hasn't written a movie review for a while...
 
Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I like boy racer. He's okay.

*turns to boy racer*

you're okay.
 
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
 
Me too. Apart from the apostrophes, natch.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
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Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by herbs:
Apart from the apostrophes.

I think that's a given.

And thanks.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Boy Racer:
I was somewhat puzzled by her comment about H&M having been made before she was born?

Harold and Maude was made in 1971. If she was born later than 1971 (say 1972, for example, or 1973), then it's evident Harold and Maude was made prior to - or "before" - that date.

[ 12.10.2006, 05:51: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I think he's got a nerve to wear wrap around shades after his conduct.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
I am getting really excited about the new bond film - it seems to be getting some outstanding reviews
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
that does look good. one of my richards wants to go and see this and i was a bit meh, but it sounds like an early viewing is definitely required. what with this and prestige in the offing over the next couple of weeks i think that the film offerings are definitely picking up a bit again.
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
my flatmate saw it yesterday:

quote:
It was alright. I'm not a big Bond fan but Daniel Craig is a double-hard bastard and a good casting choice I reckon. I don't fancy him though - he was so built up he looked like a Ninja Turtle. The Bond girls weren't up to much either really, a bit Solange Knowles...
jonathan ross, eat your heart out
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
Watched Infernal Affairs last night, and while it was a diverting hour and a half it did struggle to make any impact at all, given the vast superiority of The Departed. Still, it's a good deal flashier than the American film, faster cut and faster moving, so more than likely will have a greater appeal for people who like their movies to resemble shiny MTV videos and to carry a steely 'cool' in place of emotional involvement.

The plot... I think everyone must know the premise of the film by now - mole in the police force is pitted against a mole in the triads. Infernal Affairs doesn't really use the premise to explore much new territory. All the way through I had Nicholas Cage's line from Adaptation echoing round in my head. "Furthermore you explore the notion that cop and criminal are two sides of the same person - see every cop movie ever made for further evidence of this". The Departed wisely steered clear of this tired territory, using the premise to uncover clear differences between the leading characters and identify indestructible kernels of 'self' that provided identity beyond the role-playing their social roles forced on them and ultimately arriving at a clear morality in a world wear morality would - on the surface - appear to have disintegrated.

But. Anyway. Infernal Affairs. One thing you notice is that it gets stuck right in there, burning right into its premise in a matter of minutes. While it hits the ground running, that pace comes at the expense of character and context. A curiously tension-free drug deal occurs early in the film but doesn't carry any weight as a result. It just kind of happens, and then moves on. It does provide a show case for some 'cool' ideas, though - stuff like communicating through morse code, and the way that the spy picks up on it is pretty good. Also, it's followed by one of the best scenes in the film, where the gang leader and the police chief square off against each other. It would be tenser though, if the villains villainy had been established by something more convincing than the fact he runs a valet car parking service.

Moments of that quality do seem to crop up every now and then, giving the film the appearance of being essentially a bag of ideas. Some work, some don't, all contribute to the idea of a movie that's not quite realised, that's undercooked. The boss tells the undercover cop "I trust you the most", but it's meaningless because we've never seen their history together. These tell-not-show moments crop up quite regularly, like the creators kind of knew what they wanted the relationships between the characters to be but couldn't think of a way to dramatise them. Actually, more likely couldn't be bothered and just sort of trampled over them in a bid to keep things moving. Still, the overall effect is less hard-boiled, more half-baked.

Actually, speaking of hard boiled, there were a couple of moments that really made me wince - suprisingly for a film that's been so praised for it's style and originality. There's a scene near the start where the police chief gives a present to the undercover (begging to come in from the cold), who has forgotten his own birthday. Incredibly this scene is lifted precisely - and I mean precisely - from Hard Boiled, even down to featuring the same actor in the undercover cop role. The only difference is that here he gets a watch instead of a cigarette lighter. The other moment that made me cringe was during a death scene, where a main character stares aghast at his dead friend and some winsome Chinese pop plays and it flashes back in black and white slow motion to the two of them in happier times. That was quite embarrassing and made me wonder what kind of uber-cool Hong Kong action film rips off death scenes from 80s episodes of Neighbours.

Overall, though it was pretty interesting, if not thoroughly fleshed out. I understand that the sequel revisits the characters before the events of this movie in order to put a bit of meat on the bones, which suggests the filmakers kind of recognised the dearth of things like character and motivation which undermine the many good things about this decent little thriller.

[ 16.11.2006, 09:11: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]
 
Posted by Vogon Poetess (Member # 164) on :
 
I feel the same way as Thorn- genuinely amazed that anyone could think Infernal Affairs was in any way equal to The Departed.

Scorsese took the main plotline (which is of course a great idea) and added meat and seasoning in the form of character and context, for example I really liked The Departed's sense of place- the story was so strongly rooted in the cultural clashes of Boston.

The Departed also wins in terms of script, supporting cast and score.

Basically, watching Infernal Affairs made me want to go and see The Departed again.
 
Posted by Samuelnorton (Member # 48) on :
 
To provide a simple answer to the question, I am rather looking forward to The Last King of Scotland. I have read that Forest Whitaker actually sounded Ugandan after he had undergone all the voice training to perfect Idi Amin's accent.

[ 19.11.2006, 13:38: Message edited by: Samuelnorton ]
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I was lucky enough to catch a preview screening of Pan’s Labyrinth, the new film from The Devil’s Backbone and Hellboy director Guillermo Del Toro, on Sunday morning.

Set in Fascist Spain around the end of WWII, this is a sumptuously dark and earthy story of a young girl’s escape into a fairy tale world, away from the bitter realities of her everyday existence, inparticular her mother’s marriage to the sadistic Captain Vidal (the brilliant Sergi Lopez, essaying another great monster, after his vicious alcoholic Concierge in Dirty Pretty Things).

It’s packed with beautiful and brutal imagery in almost equal measure, at once a fabulist thriller and a steely examination of dogma, those who seek to enforce it and those brave enough to face up to them.

Utterly riveting and thoroughly satisfying.
 
Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I want Benway to see The Departed now.
I’m not sure I’m up to the job of refuting Thorn and Veep’s assertions as to it’s superiority over Infernal Affairs.

But here goes anyway (spoilers ahoy):


I really wanted to like The Departed, and I did to a degree. However whilst it delivers some choice lines (particularly to Walberg, Baldwin, and Nicholson) I thought The Departed’s script was overlong and overcooked. You say meat, I say flab.

Leo scowls and twitches instead of acting, which admittedly isn’t much different from Tony Leung’s frowning smoulders, but made less enjoyable viewing for me.

I felt a good deal less empathy for Damon's character than his counterpart in IA, and though I’m hard placed to identify exactly why I think it’s down to subtle changes in the nature of that character.

The shrink being with both guys seemed contrived.

The amount of time the big boss is on screen. Nicolson was big. But good? Appropriate? Do you really need to have a villain murder someone on screen in order to feel a sense of his dangerousness?

The loss of the shock of how the boss meets his end. The end of The Departed, undermined most of the set up from the original story, the whole point of the end of IA being that he survives but has to live with himself.
 


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