Popping her clogs on Mothers Day after a week of low key press releases saying how it'll be her last Mother Day with her two kiddies..
Now I don't want to be spiteful for the sake of it but...
Hasn't the whole thing seemed a little too staged ?
Like some massive PR stunt to make us all forget what an awful piece of work she really was ?
Or is it just me ?
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Henceforth, this shall be Jade's Day.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by Darryn.R: Hasn't the whole thing seemed a little too staged ?
Like some massive PR stunt to make us all forget what an awful piece of work she really was ?
Or is it just me ?
I've worked in PR in the past. I'm no expert but any PR stunt that ends with the client dying would generally be considered a failure. It's also going to make the resurgence that much more difficult.
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: I'm no expert but any PR stunt that ends with the client dying would generally be considered a failure. It's also going to make the resurgence that much more difficult.
That guy that did pull it off though, they're still talking about that 2000 years later, so it's definitely worth trying.
Posted by Cherry In Hove (Member # 49) on :
A lot of people will read my post up there and think "Is Cherry In Hove trying to suggest that Jade Goody is the second coming of Christ?" and the answer to that is "Yes, that is exactly what I'm suggesting".
If you think about it, it all slots into place.
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
The pace and timing though seems very constructed, from finding out live on a TV show where she was trying to 'clear' her name and improved her public image through to the even more tragic than just dying but dying on Mothers Day just seems a little too orchestrated.
I'm not saying she's faked her death or anything (or am I) but it seems very choreographed - Like she actually dies Friday and they held off saying anything till Sunday.
Maybe I'm just too cynical - But let's face it Max Clifford is scum and will milk the Goody cash cow for a while yet.
Maybe she was just dim and being manipulated, but there's more to this than meets the eye I think.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
I think with Jebus it's more the fact that he "came back from the dead" which "proved" that he was the "son of god" and that it was "ok" to kill Jews in his name..
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by Darryn.R: Maybe I'm just too cynical
Not cynical exactly, but you are wrong. Nobody with any experience of the press would deliberately hold a story over to a Sunday, no matter how romantic it'd make it, because you miss out on so much potential coverage. If the story was being held back, it would have been announced at 8.30 this morning to give the dailies a decent shot at writing it up, and you'd make the story that she had one last mother's day with her kids and then died.
The only exception I can think of - where you would deliberately hold a story over to the weekend - is the Friday night drop, which is peculiar to the financial press and it's a move aimed at stopping people from reporting it.
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Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
Yeah I know nothing of the press that's true, but I still just don't trust it.
It's that sort of non-news that only exists in the world of the celebrity that makes me feel uneasy and trips my disbelief switch.
I've stopped trusting as much as I used to, I wish it wasn't so but I'm feeling rather jaded these days (no pun intended).
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
Hmm, I think it'as distressing that Jade has somehow been remembered as some kind of saint. Stephen Fry has let us all down by describing her as "a kind of Princess D from the wrong side of the tracks"
There's a worrying trend for people to fall in with the statements of the red tops and their hyperbole: there's thousands of (admittedly, misspelled) tributes to her and what a kind mother she was. I begrudge this type of cynical attempt to set Jade as a sort of modern day hero to get autobiographies off the shelves and into the homes of single mums.
It's orchestrated, but not too much so. The coverage is double edged. To the honest it's an insight into a beautiful heart-filled mum of two who was tragically struck down with cancer. To the weary, it's a media circus bringing on guilty laughs. Either way, as mixed on opinion one can be it does have truth. I think it's as genuine a tale as can be.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Although the teddy bears, flowers and Poundland objet d'arts are much appreciated, Jade would have preferred it if you could leave money (cash or postal order), instead. It's what she would've wanted.
Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
I liked the one I heard on the news yesterday:
quote:You may not have known where East Anglia is, but you certainly knew the way to our hearts.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Originally posted by dang65: I liked the one I heard on the news yesterday:
quote:You may not have known where East Anglia is, but you certainly knew the way to our hearts.
Awww.
quote:You may not have liked Asians, but you certainly liked to get your ugly moosh in the papers
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
I've only just clocked that her illness and treatment were being documented by Living TV. Can't have been much fun for her, seeing that letterhead every day.
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
quote:Originally posted by Darryn.R:
Hasn't the whole thing seemed a little too staged ?
I like the image of the entire family, medical staff and press bods standing around, tensely counting down to midnight Saturday.
5... 4... 3... 2... 1... And switch her off! That's it, folks. That's a wrap, you've got your story. You all have a good Jade's Day, okay Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
I fear the death of Jade has soemwhat overshadowed the more important news of the launch of the world's shittest car.
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
Why so down on the Nano, Ringo. It's actually the best new car you can buy for $2,000(US).
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
How long have you got?
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
It's only £1400 over here apparently. Thing is, I think this is going to be the thing that all the new kids who have just passed their test are going to get, so pretty soon we're going to see some pretty nasty customised Nanos. Think fat exhausts, tinted windows, and some relatively massive 15" rims, could be pretty funny.
Anyway I've got nothing against it, cars are a fucking waste of money, there's too many people riding round in great big 4x4s doing 16mpg on journey's that they could probably walk in 5 minutes.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
It's actually going to be a different model for the European market. It'll have crumple zones and other safety features to comply with our legislation and it won't be here until 2011.
Oh yeah, and it'll cost £4,500.
[ 23.03.2009, 11:44: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
It makes my Corolla look like a Murcielago.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
There's a fair chance it'll be a game changer in emerging countries, but I doubt it's going to be a much of a hit over here, when you could get a (students' fave) Peugeot 107 for about £1k more.
I'm more interested to see what Gordon Murray's *T25 turns out like.
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Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
£4500, well fuck that. I'd rather have a second hand 4x4.
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
Can't they just get a great big piece of rubber and wrap it around? Like a bumper car.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: There's a fair chance it'll be a game changer in emerging countries
That's the idea, isn't it, and that's probably my biggest problem with it. The point behind the thing is to change a country where the primary forms of transportation are the bicycle and the small motorcycle, and replace that all with motor cars. The principle behind this car seems to be to make a huge amount of these cars and then scattershot developing nations with the things.
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tilde: Can't they just get a great big piece of rubber and wrap it around? Like a bumper car.
Apparently it doesn't quite work like that. Things like airbags and side impact beams are necessary over here whereas in India, you can just roll out the old "at least it's safer than carrying your whole family and its livestock on a single moped" argument.
quote:Originally posted by Ringo: The principle behind this car seems to be to make a huge amount of these cars and then scattershot developing nations with the things.
Yes, it's a shame they've plumped for an internal combustion engine really.
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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
See, Fiat know how to make small cars
Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
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Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
Found their inspiration for the Nano Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ringo: That's the idea, isn't it, and that's probably my biggest problem with it.
I re-read that a bunch of times and I still don't see your biggest problem.
Over here there has been a boom in imported Japanese and Singaporean vehicles in the last few years. The streets are awash with Toyota Picnics and Nissan Sunnys. Its a very strange site to see an old Japanese school bus covered in cute cartoons and Japanese writing being used by working folk on their daily commute.
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
quote:Originally posted by squeegy:
quote:Originally posted by Ringo: That's the idea, isn't it, and that's probably my biggest problem with it.
I re-read that a bunch of times and I still don't see your biggest problem.
Presumably Ringo's concern is either that these countries are being exploited or that if everyone in India starts driving, then the environment is going to suffer.
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
I don't know, it just seems a bit... unethical I guess. These countries seem to function perfectly well without millions of cars on the roads and in terms of the global impact it's surely better that things stay that way? Obviously it's great for industry and the economy etc etc, but in terms of the long term effects on those countries and the planet as a whole, I can't see it as being anything awfully positive.
Posted by squeegy (Member # 136) on :
Long-term I suppose it can't be a good thing. For the environment at least. But this car could offer so much to so many people.
I suppose its basically the Beetle for the 21st century.
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