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Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
Just *out of interest*, you know. Or maybe we could talk about games! Or not - either way is fine!

I've just made it through the first four parts of Phoenix wright, which I've enjoyed, and am pleased to read the the fifth part is way longer than the first four. Not since a Sierra game have I got so frustrated/excited about puzzle solving, even if the puzzles are for the most part very simple. Still I wasn't sure how much I'd get out of it after cruising through the first two parts fairly easily, but the last one was great. Ridiculous, but entertaining. It's a great game... very text heavy, kind of like a hentai game, with characters popping up and having conversations, complete with lots of internal thought from you as phoenix. But the cases, while not 'clever', are always nigh on unbreakable apart from one or two tiny details which you then mine until the case collapses. I got into it way more than I expected to, and for the first time in a month I'm playing something other than Animal Crossing.

Also dug out Wind Waker again after the E3 showing of the new Zelda, and was to see that the last person to play it was Raz, around two years ago. Still haven't finished it, mostly because I got bored raising money to pay for Tingle to translate maps. In the spirit of playing old games, I also had a crack at Metroid, and couldn't control it, let alone have a chance at defeating the Omega Pirate, where I left the game in 2004.

Also - has anybody played 'Shadowgrounds'? Picked it up, started it, and it looks okay. Has anybody persevered with this?

Aside from all that horseshit that I just said - what are people are 'rocking' at the moment?

[ 07.06.2006, 08:55: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
 

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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I enjoyed twelve hours of Resident Evil 4 at Rong'un's last weekend. I enjoyed it immenesly. It didn't quite have the feeling of dread that the first one inspired but I would go 'sheeeereeeereeeeeeee-it' whenever any Il Illuminados busted out all manners of whup on me. There's the nervous swapping of guns when their heads pop off to reveal an insect creature inside. I love the 'Thing' inspired hounds that lash at you. It also includes a cute girl, which without the inclusion of a skirt that lifts up to reveal panties, would be a game incomplete. I would, with my pixelated peeny.
 

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Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
I played that through again recently. It's just perfect ain't it. Restarting so you've got all the top weapons and then bowling into the village and shooting everybody in the face is pretty much arcade heaven. I've also been trying to do 'Mercenaries' mode but fucking hell that's hard as fuck.

[ 07.06.2006, 09:04: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I've been quitely playing this at my desk for the last few hours.
 

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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 

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I've also been trying to do 'Mercenaries' mode but fucking hell that's hard as fuck.

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What's that? Sounds interesting.

My favourite part was shooting the cultists with the shields using the magnum. Bakoom! In your face, fuckstick. Haha! Kill another. I had to stop Ringo from suggesting I was the little boy in the game though. Best to nip these insults in the bud early.

I've also been playing Unreal. On my own, without any of you guys
 

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Posted by turbo (Member # 593) on :
 
I've been playing Fallout for the last few weeks. Much better than all those fancy shmancy games.
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I'm with you, George. Old school all the way.
 

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Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 

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I've also been trying to do 'Mercenaries' mode but fucking hell that's hard as fuck.

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What's that? Sounds interesting.

I've also been playing Unreal. On my own, without any of you guys

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You get 1.5 minutes on the clock to kill as many dudes as possible. You can choose a location from the game and you're given a pistol and a shotgun, and then go apeshit. You can find things to extend your time or get double points, and basically the aim is to get a rating (either four or five stars, I can't remember) to unlock different playable characters. It's really hard, and proper sweaty palms stuff. Running around the village is great, jumping through windows, climbing over roofs, just killing as many guys as you can is exciting, but hard when the chainsaw people appear in pairs.


also, I like unreal but I can't seem to get it to run properly. It always seems a bit slow for me, lagging to the point where it's a slideshow rather than a game. Also, I am shit at it, and just run around firing indiscriminately until somebody (usually a 10 year old yank) puts me out of misery and has a laugh at me. Same with HL2 and CounterStrike: Source.

[ 07.06.2006, 09:21: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I have just finished F.E.A.R. which I found thoroughly enjoyable if rather repetetive. As with the Max Payne games, I found the bullet time feature a lot of fun and combined with quicksave, it allows you to easily test out different methods of combat. Even when I'd succesfully cleared a room, I would frequently quickload, just for the fun of trying it again with a different weapon or approach. The plot wasn't bad for a videogame but it's a shame to have to apply that condition to almost every game. Deus Ex, though, blah, blah...

As well as playing through a few old Mario classics, I've been exploring the world of freeware and shareware games.

*Plasma Pong is completely free, looks amazing and actually gets pretty challenging:



*Binary Zoo have produced some excellent shooters (mono and duo) which are also free and deserve a mention here.



Trackmania Nations



A cross between the genres of racing and puzzle, thanks to the bizarre stunt tracks, TMN allows you to hone your skills offline, customize your car and then take on the world's best online, all for *free. Plus you can design your own ridiculous tracks.

If you like physics based games, you'll find a wealth of amazingly addictive content at the *Fun-Motion site. My particular favourites include:

Zen Bondage



It involves wrapping a 3D object with rope (seriously).

Ski Stunt Simulator


This is strictly 2D and requires a good understanding of balance, inertia and mouse control. Hellishly addictive.

In terms of retail games...

Hitman: Blood Money



I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the fourth installment of the series. I've enjoyed all of the previous games, thanks to the immense replayability factor.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I managed to find a Playstation ISO of Parappa the Rapper (The Hip-Hop Hero). Sadly I can't get it to run smoothly through an emulator on PC, which is pretty much vital when you're playing a rhythm game [insert birth control gag].

"In the rain or in the snow,
Got the funky, funky flow"

I'm tempted to buy (are you feeling okay, Misc?) the next installment of Half Life 2, entitled simply Episode One. It's about $20 via Steam or £20 in a shop, which seems like a lot of money for about five hours' entertainment, but... well... it is Half Life, isn't it?

There seems to be a trend emerging for episodic content at the moment. SIN Episodes is another Source-based game which is delivered via Steam. From the reviews I've read it's not a patch on the game upon which it was based. Shame.

To conclude my Half Life section, I should mention the single player *Minerva mod, now on its second installment with a third due shortly. The level design is excellent and the graphics are on a par with HL2 itself.
 

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Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
I was playing Half Life Episode One last night, and it's really really good. There's a great idea about every two minutes. It's really slickly put together. However, there's some kind of bug which is stopping the next chapter from loading properly, which means I can't actually progress with it anymore. I don't know whether this was my computer misbehaving last night, or a problem with the install. Because about it over fucking stupid idiot Steam, I'm going to have to take it off my hard drive and then install it all over again. This is apparently the future of gaming. I really hate Steam.

I also had a crack at SiN Episode One, which was largely a big barrel of monkey spunk. At first glance it seemed to tick all the right boxes for my gaming requirements: bright colours, noisy explosions every other second and - crucially - cut scenes featuring enormous jiggling tits. So I was kind of astonished to find that I wasn't enjoying it at all. There were a couple of good moments where people got set on fire and screamed convincingly, but other than that the thing was so absolutely simplistic and repetitive I found myself wishing for some kind of cerebral engagement, and that's something that almost never happens.

It's also very old fashioned. It seems strange and stupidly unrealistic now - after the likes of FEAR, Far Cry and call of duty 2, to have weapons that are absolutely precisely accurate to a pixel, for example. Plus the enemies are complete cretins. I'd forgotten how ridiculous it is to play a game where you accidentally miss a shot at someone's head, shattering the glass behind them, and they continue doing whatever they were doing as though nothing had happen. See also: shooting a guard in the middle of their conversation, and having their partner act as though nothing has happened even though their mate's brains are splattered over their jumpsuit. Rubbish.
 

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Posted by Fionnula the Cooler (Member # 453) on :
 
I mean, I was warned it wasn't really a game as such, but Jesus. Nobody told me it was primary school homework. Times tables, memory tests, close reading, join the dots, colour recognition ... that kind of shit. Same microphones problems as Nintendogs. Except this time it tries to make out it's your own fault for being Scottish or something. You're like, 'Blue. Blue. BLUE. Blooo. Buh-loo. Boo. Loo. Fucksake, why won't you just recognise my voice? Why do you hate me? What have I ever done, hm? What did I ever do to deserve this?' and then you spend the remainder of the time limit blaming the DS for everything bad that's every happened to you, until it goes, 'WE HAVE CALCULATED THE AGE OF YOUR BRAIN. YOUR BRAIN IS EIGHTY YEARS OLD. (YOU DO NOT KNOW THE COLOUR BLUE).' So yeah. Brain Age is gash. No one buy it. Unless you like sudoku puzzles. In which case. Well. You're kind of a **** , aren't you? No offence.

Instead, buy New Super Mario Bros. Which is brilliant. Not as brilliant as SMB3 or Super Mario World, obvs, and not brilliant enough for me to be arsed enough to write about it. But, you know. Brilliant. Yeah. Will that do?

Also been playing Pikmin 2 and We Love Katamari, which are kind of similar, I guess, except for the fact that Pikmin 2 is like, yeah, and We Love Katamari is like, meh. Is that enough?
 

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Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
I've heard that 'blue' is a known problem on that 'game'. And isn't it aimed more at people who are in danger of suffering from Alzheimers, rather than bright sparks in their early twenties?
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Can I actually play any games on my mac or should I just stick to the xbox 360?
 

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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
You can play games on the mac but save yourself the hassle and don't bother. My housemate was supplied a G5 mac, top of the range, flashy as all hell and it still didn't run Doom 3 without jerking all over the place. In fact Star Wars Battlefront was jerky too. Dissapointing.
 

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Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
I've never bothered to try playing games on macs. It made me laugh when I went to the apple show and they had a bank of about 20 top o' the range G5 Towers linked up to 23" widescreen displays with kids playing games. I mean for fucks sake why spend £2500 on a a mac system just so you can play games?

I'd be kinda interested to see how halo runs on a macmini though.
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Mine's a core-duo mac mini so should be ok to run some games. But apparently you have to go to a "shop" and then "purchase" the games. That sounds like a whole lot of hassle.

I'll stick with the sexbox
 

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Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I’ve been playing my way through Tomb Raider – Legend on the Xbox, completing the story mode last night. I found it surprisingly enjoyable, barring a couple of control mechanism niggles, and the game gets back to the essential nitty-gritty jumping/climbing/swimming/shooting action of the series’ earlier titles whilst looking very nice indeed.

I’ve also been playing the less pretty GTA – Liberty City Stories on PS2, converted back from the PSP and released on a budget price point. It’s pretty good in the GTA way but suffers from comparison to both of the post GTA III games, Vice City and (particularly) San Andreas. It lacks much of the scope and humour of those titles, and has a greatly diminished radio soundtrack, and after an extended period of play last weekend I found myself somewhat jaded by the repetitious carnage, the first time I think I’ve ever felt that playing at GTA title.
 

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Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
Got Trauma Center and Mario+Luigi: Partners in Time about a week ago. Trauma Center is fucking hard as hell, to the point where it wasn't fun, so I haven't picked it up much. Mario+Luigi is great though. Very similar to the Paper Mario RPG games, with the same kind of action orientated turn based combat, and a plot based around collected shards of a star to save the princess. It's lovely, very immersive, and rewarding. The artwork is attractive, the jokes are heartwarming, and you can get a fair few hours out of it. Probably up there with Phoenix Wright / Advance Wars / Animal Crossing.
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Not anything that I'm playing as such but I just got a Swap Magic CD and 'magic card' to allow me to play 'backups' and imported games on my PS2.

Pretty soon I'll be playing Initial D: Special Stage which is only available in Japan. Downside - Japanese menus. I'm sure I'll work it out though, it's just a driving game after all.
 

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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Popped over my friends house for an enjoyable computer games romp on the weekend and sampled Shadow of the Collosus, which BR had been playing. It has a certain feeling about the game that is both beautiful and eerie. I managed to topple 6 Collossi and find the 7th before falling down some steps. I like games of this caliber where I can immerse myself into the world. Of course, it's the same studio as Ico, but I'm treading old ground here.

God of War has a chunky, lush feel to it. It benefits from great clipping and smooth controls. You really feel like you are manipulating Kratos with ease across ship masts, old churches and the rooftops of Athens whilst being bombarded by a 100ft Aries. The weapons that the gods generously hand to Kratos can be upgraded, unleashing more powers as you go along. It is strangely bloodthirsty and plays out like the sort of film you could only have dreamed of in the eighties. Basically, the game is a Jason and the Arganauts style affair, with gratuitous tit-shots instead of shonky animation. I enjoyed about five hours of that, and I'd like to play more.

I also played Star Wars Episode 3 as well, but that was complete trout.
 

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Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
God of War is an excellent game to watch someone else playing. The effects are just so silly. And the music is rather stirring. Also good for watching other people play: Tony Hawkes games.

That is the sum of my Games related contribution. I'm still fascinated by Bejewelled.
 

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Posted by Good Fairy (Member # 479) on :
 
I picked up 007 Rogue Agent(PS2) for £2 on sat from an Argos pikey sale place. So only spent about an hour on it. Very enjoyable shoot em up. Dont think I would have spent £30 on it, but WELL worth £2.
 

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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 

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God of War is an excellent game to watch someone else playing.

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Originally posted by Amy:
Call to duty 2

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Originally posted by Amy:
Call to duty 2

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Call of Duty 2 is fantastic on the PC (even better than the excellent CoD1). I can't comment on the xbox 360 as my hands spazz up whenever I try and play an FPS without a mouse and keyboard.

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Originally posted by Black Mask:
I'd like to play a game set in 1950s Los Angeles, where your character (the bastard daughter of Betty Page and Ed Gein) is brainwashed by the Chinese to smuggle a nuclear device (which is disguised as a teenaged boy) into the lot of MGM studios. You have to use guile, pussy and ultraviolence to achieve your ends. The bomb is detonated when penetrated by Cary Grant. David Niven is tipped off to your plot and enlists the help of Hollywood's finest to hunt you down with Thompson machine-guns.

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me too.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I'm totally looking forward to this:


 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
And this is sure to be a smash in 2007...


 

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Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 

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I'm totally looking forward to this:

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LOL, excellent - You should b3ta that.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Is it just me, or is the 360 remote kinda phallic?


 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Something tells me this will be a perfect title for the DS...


 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 

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b3ta that.

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Something tells me this will be a perfect title for the DS...

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Have you seen this strange looking controller Ringo?

What's the score with Dragon Quest fella? Is it an rpg?

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Originally posted by Dr. Benway:
I've just told you all the good games.

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All of them?

Fuck.
 

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Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
well, all the good ones I've got.

check out dsfanboy.com for ds news things
 

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Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Woo, I just picked up Outrun 2006 Coast to Coast for the PSP, with the original 86 music and a slightly updated version of the original Outrun to play with..

A bit fiddly on a handheld, but still great fun.
 

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Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
I think the time has come that I should buy a PSP - whats the best deal you found Darryn?
 

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Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
They all seem to work out at about 249.00 Euros for the pack with a game, 32mb card, charger and soft cover.

2GB memory sticks are about 80.00 Euros from the Office Centre/Dixons.

E-Plaza have always done me well, though I bought my new one from the Media Markt where it was a little cheaper.

They all seem to come now with Loco Roco as the game, that or Daxter... I think you're best off trying to find one with GTA Liberty City included.

If you can't find one with GTA Liberty City included then the base unit costs 199.00 Euro pretty much all over, but you don't get a card or a case with it.

But like I say, 2GB memory sticks are about 80.00 Euros from the Office Centre/Dixons so the cards not really needed and you need a better case than the soft one, I say get the Logitech® PlayGear Pocket (12.50 Euros from E-Plaza) as you can make custom paper inserts and customize the case, plus you can use it as a stand when watching a Divx and charge it without having to remove it.

Bart Smit also do a desktop charger with a funky blue light for charging the PSP upright on your desk for 3.00 Euros.

Plus if you're ver feeling in the mood to play with the software you can use Devhook and a downgraded version of the PSP firmware (version 1.5) to play homebrew games (or downloaded games from the web).

There's a vast array of other rubbish available for the PSP as well, including a gadget that turns it into a PS2 allowing you to play games on the television and use a Playstation controller, you could also watch films via this too I imagine.

The PINK PSP comes out soon too if you wanted to be a gay, which you don't.

My white one doesn't half get a dirty joystick though, Femke's black one doesn't.

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 


Also - if you have avoided buying the Star Wars Trilogy on DVD because of the stupid CGI add-ons of the "Special" Edition, then * your prayers have been answered.
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
As I'm off work ill today with arse problems, I've been considering going and buying Lego Star Wars 2 plus the new original trilogy DVDs, to help alleviate my boredome. I reckon if I go now then I stand a decent chance of fitting in all 3 films before I have to go and see emma this evening. I might not go to see her to be honest, if my arse doesn't get any better. There's no value in recreating certain scenes from Trainspotting..
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 

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As I'm off work ill today with arse problems

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Forgive me, Lord. What kind of problems are you having there Ringo?
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Well this morning things were critical, but I'm now describing the situation as 'serious but stable'.
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Sounds like you need more fiber in your diet.
 

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Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Ok I have mostly been playing:

Need for Speed
Loco Roco (Demo)

This weekend I will be playing Tiger Woods 07 (My dad should be able to join in then)
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I've been playing "Need For Speed Underground: Most Wanted" on the PC and it is fucking shit.
 

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Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Shit because it's on the PC or shit because it's a shit game ?
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Shit game. Looks good on the PC, but it's mad boring.
 

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Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
I had a go at Need For Speed on the PSP, buggerd if I could steer the car at all, I'll stick to Outrun..

I've also developed a motion sickness problem with the PSP, if I play for too long I get really dizzy and sick feeling and when I close my eyes I can still see or feel the movement of Outrun..

Or Loco Roco which is even odder.
 

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Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
Welcome Mr Big Nuts.

Apart from Puzzle Bobble on my phone, I'm only really playing FIFA 2005 at present, in the brief moments between work, DIY, watching dvds of Deadwood, and sleep. I’m currently winning everything as Barca in Career, but I suspect I’ll only stay with them for a season since club loyalty seems not to have been figured into the structure of the game.

I plan to be getting Yakuza very shortly, and am working on persuading my 360 owning flatmate to get Dead Rising.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'd like a 360 but I'd have to get a new tv as well. I suppose I'll have to get one eventually, but that's a huge amount of cash just to be able to pop make-believe caps in virtual asses.
 

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Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Still playing Halo 2 on xbox original. Not getting any better. I guess after two years of playing this game online I'm really only a level 12 Rumble pit player. I do know where most of the good weapons are now on most of the maps which helps. But overall it's incredibly dispiriting getting pwned, owned, raped, being called a noob, noobie, faggot, nigger, faggot nigger, being called garbage, being told I suck, I totally suck, I suck ass, I suck niggers ass, being told my mum sucks ass. Being told I have no teeth, to brush my teeth and being called australian.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
how much of that is true though?
 

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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
not is a faggot nigger, but he'll fuck anyone up who dares point it out. Be warned.
 

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Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
That's not the point, the point is it's rude.
 

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Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Are americans more racist and homophobic than UK? because that's the impression I get. I mean, amongst the young it seems to be normal to call someone a nigger or a faggot, on xbox live anyhow. UK kids don't seem to do this.
 

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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
NFS:MW on the Gamecube is fan-fucking-tastic. The feeling of elation when you finally jump the bridge with Cross on your tail...

I am currently playing Lego Star Wars on the DS. It's like game-heroin.

EDIT: Did I say 'jumb'? I meant 'jump', but you knew that.

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Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
I've got Need for Speed for my PSP - its ok I think if you like racing games. Still haven't started on Liberty city yet strangely - last few days have been playing Tiger Woods.

Is that Lego Trilogy coming out for the PSP do you know?
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
wrong! It's lame. The game is lame. I played for a whole day and didn't encounter a single corner that couldn't be taken by just easing off the gas for a second. The whole street racing setup was retarded, and the action itself was repetitive and draining. Plus the car upgrade system was limited. Perhaps the only good bit is when you're doing those ones where you've got to accumulate so many points in cop chases, but even then, the fact that you are indestructable makes that all seem ridiculous. There were better car chases in Driver.
 

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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Waynster - I don't know

Jimmy Big Nuts - You are a spazz
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
you're cruising for a punch in the nuts

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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
What nuts?

[ 27.09.2006, 08:57: Message edited by: Black Mask ]
 

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Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
Oh dear.
 

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Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 

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Is that Lego Trilogy coming out for the PSP do you know?

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That's not the point, the point is it's rude.

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Is that Lego Trilogy coming out for the PSP do you know?

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Looking forward to *Alan Wake in 2007. Sounds like I might need an upgrade though...

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Originally posted by Amy:
As for our new sparkly xbox 360, no games were inside and we can't seem to find a game that we both want to play or that's 2 player. Any suggestions?

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Care to give us a little insight into whats it all about?

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Lifted from Amazon (Xbox version)

Product Features

Expands upon all of the fun and creativity that made the original LEGO Star Wars such a hit, this time set during the original three Star Wars films (Episodes IV, V, VI).

For the first time ever, build and ride vehicles (landspeeders, AT-STs, speeder bikes and more) and mount creatures (from the banthas of desert Tatooine to the tauntauns of frigid Hoth) through on-foot levels.

All non-droid characters - not just those with the Force - have the power to build

Unlock more than 50 playable characters, from cultural icons like Luke, Leia and Darth Vader to fan favourites such as Greedo, Jawas and Gamorrean guards

Unlock up to 54 more playable characters with a game save from the original LEGO Star Wars
Create unique playable characters like Yoda Kenobi, Lando Fortuna and millions more by mixing and matching the LEGO body parts of all playable characters.

In Free Play mode, experience the Original Trilogy in a new way by importing any character into land levels, or switch between vehicles at will in space levels. Make Darth Maul a hero of the Rebellion, or destroy the Death Star with a TIE fighter

Character-specific attacks include Chewbacca pulling enemies' arms out of their sockets, Vader's Force choke, Leia's "slap" melee attack and many more.

Tongue-in-cheek humour presents the Original Trilogy in a manner only LEGO can put together, with comical reinterpretations of classic Star Wars scenes and elements.

Solve a greater variety of puzzles that encourage creative thinking through the use of teamwork and unique building situations only possible in a LEGO galaxy far, far away.

The adaptive difficulty option creates more challenging gameplay for Jedi Master gamers - the better you do, the tougher it gets.

Cooperative gameplay encourages teamwork in a fun way and features a revamped camera for an optimal gameplay experience.

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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Lego SW is a bit buggy on the DS, but, it's so cool I'm prepared to overlook the camera going off for a wander, occasionally.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
or, go to gamespot.com. They may have poo-pooed the idea of employing me to do monkey CMS work, but they've got in game footage of the game. I do love gamespot.
 

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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
The carbonised Han character is good, his signature move is hopping up and down and then falling over.
 

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Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I got Yakuza last week and managed to get a bit of play in on the weekend when I wasn't still decorating.

It's pretty good so far, the combat system makes up for it's slight lack of finesse and repetitive nature through the sheer brutal pleasure of smashing a lead pipe or bicycle or whatever into whichever lippy upstart has been stupid enough to cross you on the path to your next mission objective.

The missions thus far have varied in nature and complexity from infiltrating heavily guarded funerals to saving puppies. There also appear to be some interesting sub-games; wooing hostess girls and hitting homers in baseball batting cages are two I’ve come across.

Like I said, s’good.

[ 02.10.2006, 08:14: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Lego Star Wars II = WIN
 

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Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
 
Thanks for the recommendations.

BR- What platform is Yakuza on?
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
This weekend I have been mostly playing Need for Speed: Carbon.

The verdict: it’s alright, pretty entertaining although the drifting is pony. I give it 7 Hachis out of 10.
 

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Posted by Cactus (Member # 866) on :
 

 

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Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
lol this is brilliant!
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 

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Originally posted by Ringo:
Need for Speed: Carbon.

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Is Carbon much of a step up from NFSU2?
 

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Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 

 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
This weekend I got fucked up on Defcon. I was almost in tears! I was N.America and I'd teamed up with S.America and Africa to get Europe, Asia and Russia. So I send some of my lads across the pacific to start nuking China and Japan, and meanwhile my entire atlantic fleet is wasted in a tag team from europe and russia. Then they all go sailing up past canada and start bombing me from up there, and right in the middle of that, my s.American allie broke out the treaty and started nuking both me and Africa. So I had like Asia, Russia, Europe and S.America all going for me, and I was duly destroyed. But I felt so angry and let down by s.america, just dropping out and attacking me in my hour of need.

I also finished Castlevania DS, got to the last case of Phoenix Wright 2, and spent Friday night mucking about on electroplankton, which is awesome.
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:

quote:

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Originally posted by Ringo:
Need for Speed: Carbon.

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Is Carbon much of a step up from NFSU2?

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Originally posted by Ringo:
There is a driving simulator out for the PC which you can download, but I’ve forgotten what it’s called. It’s EXTREMELY realistic and difficult, and although it lacks real life cars, it’s probably the best challenge for anyone who wants a good driving simulator.

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Originally posted by Darryn.R:
I got Lego Star wars for the PSP on Friday - Top Fun, II finished the A New Hope section in story mode over the weekend..

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• DSLite + £40 Game Voucher
• PSP
• Xbox 360 Core

Also - does anyone have one of these:



[ 14.11.2006, 04:52: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 

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Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 

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Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Also - does anyone have one of these:

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quote:

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Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
They're pretty handy for arranging meeting up with your friends and stuff, and you can send someone a 'text message' which they'll get eventually even if they don't have their phone on them at the time.

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quote:

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Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Three options:

• DSLite + £40 Game Voucher
• PSP
• Xbox 360 Core

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• Wii

But as it's a free gift and there are sure to be shortages, I doubt they'd supply it for bloody ages. I'm not sure I could handle such a long wait for a Wii...

*groane*
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I just need some validation Darryn. I need you to say:

"Misc - those Sony Ericsson phones are really chuffing great and you should stop phaffing around writing inane posts about phones and games consoles and just bloody well go ahead and buy one. Everyone's bored of you."

I also need to know how the sound quality compares to that of an iPod and how ridiculous it would be to use it for the Interloper backing track. I'd have to hope nobody phoned me during the gig, or the handsfree would cut in and broadcast the conversation to the moshing crowd...


 

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Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Sound can be a bit shitty, with the headphones supplied it was awful but a good pair of
Sennheisers sorted that out. Storage is fine, file transfer a little slow but simple and all round a decent phone/walkman combo.

If you did want to use it as a backing track you could as there is a úse as standalone walkman option available when you start the phone up.

[ 14.11.2006, 06:57: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Thank you Darryn.
 

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Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I finally got hold of an Xbox copy of Star Wars Lego II, so I no longer have to scrounge goes off my 5 year old nephew, and Canis Canem Edit (formerly Bully) for the PS2 yesterday.

Didn't play much of Bully, but what I did looks reasonably promising in a cut down GTA/Black Mask's school days sort of a way.
 

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Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Got the Star wars II lego thing - one question - what are the red floaty things that seem to lead to other places? How do you get through them?
 

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Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
I am liking this Star Wars II Lego game a lot - so far I just managed to unlock Han Solo and Chewie - its quite frustrating as some things are actually quite simple - getting into the Cantina bar I was flumoxed on, until I just thought to blast the damn anti-droid things and bingo, I'm in.

I still haven't worked out how to access these below grating studs, where you have the little floaty red things - I tried getting Ben to downward stab with the light sabre, but that didn't do any good, and its only blue twinkles you can use the force on - any ideas Darryn or anyone? Also Darryn we have to have a beer soon just so we can have a game of doubles (I think this is the first game we both have where we can use the wireless).
 

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Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Once you unlock more characters you can get to more levels of the stage you are playing, you need characters from other levels to complete the early levels... If you play the first level of A New Hope as Jedi in free play with the character set that unlocks you can open doors you couldn't open the first time you played it so you can get to what seem to be hidden sections on first play.

I've finished A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back and am now doing tem again in free play mode to unlock more secret levels..

Beer as soon as I can, I won't be about again this weekend though as I'm doing the whole Sint on a boat thing in Rotterdam with Beckett and then I have to go and pick Summer up..

2 player network option should be fun though..
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
To do stuff with the sparkly red things you need to be playing as one of the Sith. It denotes dark force powers.
 

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Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Thanks Ringo - but aren't the Sith only in 1, 2 and 3, or have I not learned enough about the Star Wars story to know who is who (I'm playing the original trilogy - having not seen 4,5 and 6 - although I did see some of 4 but fell asleep, I am not entirely suer who the Sith are)
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 

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Originally posted by Waynster:
Thanks Ringo - but aren't the Sith only in 1, 2 and 3, or have I not learned enough about the Star Wars story to know who is who (I'm playing the original trilogy - having not seen 4,5 and 6 - although I did see some of 4 but fell asleep, I am not entirely suer who the Sith are)

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• Darth Maul
• Darth Sidious
• Darth Tyrannus
• Darth Vader

However, the word Sith was only invented for the prequels.

Sorry - did you say you haven't seen episodes 4-6?


 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Also if you want to learn more about the expanded universe of Star Wars, you might find *this site interesting. It's all about Darth Vader's brother Chad who works as a Day Shift Manager at a grocery store.


 

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Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
Wayne, other than the original 3 films in the game there are also mini games in the cantina where you fight Maul, Sidious and Vader so you can unlock the characters ready for free play..

It's through the door on the left of the cantina past the New Hope entrance..

Darth Maul is easy enough to beat, the others are harder..

You also unlock young Obi Wan and Qui Gone Gin (sp?) so you can use the force big stylee...
 

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Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Sorry Misc I haven't seen 1, 2 and 3 - I heard they were shit. I am still fuming that the box set of the original 4,5 and 6 have been butchered by some wanker with CGI *


* This hatred may be related to the one week I entered something totally fabbo in a b3ta competition which even board king Darryn said might win, and instead it was beaten by some crappo 'non-cgi star wars' gag that look like it was done by Steven Hawking in MS Paint.

See - funny:



MS-Paint + Star wars = not funny.


 

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Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
Hmmm, I suspect a confusion in Waynster's original post regarding eps 4-6.

Get in there Misc.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Perhaps a woo or a yay might help to calm your hatred of Star Wars? If so:

• woo
• yay

quote:

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Originally posted by Boy Racer:
you can now get the original Star Wars films in unadulterated non-CGI abomination form, though not in a boxed set as far as I know.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Cactus:
I believe episode 3 was fantastic.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Physic:
You mean apart from the hammy acting, laughable plot and utter predictability?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Cactus:
Surely exactly the same criticisms could be used of "A New Hope"?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Cactus:
Surely exactly the same criticisms could be used of "A New Hope"?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Physic:
Absolutely, my point was that ROTS is a load of toss, not that the other two were any good. Just to be clear, I thought all three were shit, although 1 did have Jar Jar Binks I suppose which pretty much makes it unsurpassable for pure shitness.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Physic:
ETA - hang on, New Hope is what they're calling the original Star Wars now isn't it.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Physic:
in which case yes it had some dubious acting, but in comparison to ROTS it was an acting masterclass imo.

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quote:

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Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
I thought... Ewan McGregor.... good ....

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You are not far wrong, but I still stand by my mad faece for the 'Hello there..' line alone. Something I missed until you pointed it out.
 

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Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Ep 1 - the only good bit, the doors open and Darth Maul is there - "we'll handle this" acts the oirish one.
Ep 2 - the only good bit, none of it.
Ep 3 - stupid terrible film
Ep 4 - Clunky and fun, Han the best thing (especially when he pats Chewy on the head like a dog for no good reason)
Ep 5 - the only one actually made with a real director and acting involved - Lando is quality, a non-NZ, non-talkative Bobba Fett and the Lizard thing, Darth Vader is pure evil in it.
Ep 6 - Like some spastic muppet show version of the first film, someone was taking the piss with this one. All pretense of 'acting' has vanished by this point, never to return.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
You are not far wrong, but I still stand by my mad faece for the 'Hello there..' line alone. Something I missed until you pointed it out.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Benny the Ball:
the Lizard thing

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quote:

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Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
It's been called Star Wars Episode IV - A New Hope for the last 25 years. It was only the 1977 theatrical version that simply called it Star Wars. And I refuse to believe that you're old enough to remember that.

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quote:

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When originally released in 1977, the film was released simply as Star Wars, both on promotional material and during the opening crawl of the film itself. For this reason, this film, more often than its sequels, is often referred to as Star Wars, instead of by the Episode IV number or the subtitle A New Hope. In 1980, the sequel, Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back, was released with the episode number and subtitle in the opening crawl. In a re-released version a year later, Episode IV: A New Hope was added above the original opening crawl.

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quote:

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Originally posted by H1ppychick:

quote:

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Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
It's been called Star Wars Episode IV - A New Hope for the last 25 years. It was only the 1977 theatrical version that simply called it Star Wars. And I refuse to believe that you're old enough to remember that.

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The rolling text intro in the theatrical version also calls it Episode IV: A New Hope.

(and I saw it in the cinema on its original release - it was my elder bro's 10th b-day treat and I got to go as well otherwise I'd have had a screaming tantrum - in return I made him come and see Grease with me)

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You Lie H1ppy - you didn't see the original print!
 

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Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
Oh, OK. I can't remember ever having seen it without that title on the text scrawl so it must have been changed relatively quickly.

ETA what I mean is that I did see the original print but I was only little at the time and I've seen it so many times since that the memory of the original viewing is more of the event of going to the cinema (which was quite an unusual treat in those days) rather than of the film content.

[ 16.11.2006, 09:05: Message edited by: H1ppychick ]
 

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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 

Bossk-eyed and having it, 1977
 

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Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Do you see, DO YOU SEE how failable the human memory is! How manipulable the mind is! Do you see?

God I'm bored...

ETA - almost as good as 'V'

[ 16.11.2006, 09:12: Message edited by: Benny the Ball ]
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
IG-88 could kick Bossk's scaly green ass.


 

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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Imagine the size of the table those bounty hunters would require to have an arm wrestle. They could give Mr Tickle a run for his money, that's for sure.
 

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Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Zuckass was the worst one though, wasn't he? Him and the bloke with the towel around his head.

And as for IG-88 vs Bossk - Bossk hunted Wookies in his spare time, and Wookies are known to rip the arms out of people who beat them in shitchess (and probably robots too).
 

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Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:

Bossk-eyed and having it, 1977

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quote:

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Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
]Sadly Binks is in Episodes II and III as well, albeit in a much reduced role, after complaints from fans.

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quote:

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It's been called Star Wars Episode IV - A New Hope for the last 25 years. It was only the 1977 theatrical version that simply called it Star Wars. And I refuse to believe that you're old enough to remember that.

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quote:

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Hayden Christensen was a fuck of a lot better in RotS that he was in AotC.

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Jesus dude, that's like saying that Graham Norton is less of a **** than Eamonn Holmes, at the end of the day they're both still *****. I'll give you McGregor and Diarmind though, grudgingly .
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I read an EU book about IG-88 once. It was pretty cool if a little derivative. His creator decided the IG droids were too intelligent so he ordered their destruction, but 88 kicked his ass of course...

However I went off the EU when I read something about a post-RotJ "resurrected Emperor" and a clone of Luke Skywalker named "Luuke Skywalker" fgfs...


 

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Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
actually, re IG-88 vs Bossk, I've just read that something or other cemented "his position as the second-best bounty hunter in the galaxy (after Boba Fett)."

So there you go.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
The internet was built for arguing about star wars.
 

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Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
Bobba Fett's dad is teh gay! etc

Data could totally whip IG-88's skinny ass!

[ 16.11.2006, 09:37: Message edited by: Benny the Ball ]
 

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Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Benny the Ball:
actually, re IG-88 vs Bossk, I've just read that something or other cemented "his position as the second-best bounty hunter in the galaxy (after Boba Fett)."

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How exactly do they establish this? Is there some kind of official audit, like the Times Best 100 Companies to work for? How official is it? Is there a Tuesday in November where all the bounty hunters rush out to the newsagents to see how they placed?
 

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Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
Fucking lol. (spacedollars)

[ 16.11.2006, 09:40: Message edited by: Dedalus ]
 

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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Wasn't Jango Fett a Kiwi or a saffer or one of those other kind of genetic fruitloops?
 

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Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
It's probably more like a world standings in football system - if you win x amount of jobs then you move up the table. I'm a bit suspect of it all myself - I think Bobba Fett flatters to deceive, like Brazil, and suspect that IG-88 is more like a Mexico or someone - taking jobs in the Star Wars Universe equivalent of the CONCACAFederation

ETA - he was a KIWI, like most of the survivors of the Matrix AI scorched sky thing that now live and rave in caves

[ 16.11.2006, 09:41: Message edited by: Benny the Ball ]
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I rekcon Jango could have kicked Boba's arse.

:controversialol:
 

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Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
yeah - but only at Jenga!
 

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Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
only at Scrabble.
 

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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Scrabblol!!!!
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Jango got killed by Samuel L. Motherfuckin' Jackson. Boba got killed by a blind man who was shouting his name.
 

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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I don't think I ever mentioned this but my sister and her boo built a lifesized R2D2. She use to take it for walks around the park but said she stopped because she looked like a bit of a paedophile with a giant robotic bleeping bar of candy. That and they had a domestic and she karate chopped R2's head so hard it looked like a damaged ping pong ball. I think there are some photos online. Let me look.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Please God...
 

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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
What? Please god let it be true?
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Just find the fucking photos, okay?
 

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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I can't google them, but I'm sure they still have some of them. Shall I ask her to bring some with her on the weekend to scan. I didn't think you'd be interested.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Oh forget it...
 

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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Fine. FINE!
 

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Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
This spat's got Heat written all over it.

 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 

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Originally posted by Dedalus:
This spat's got Heat written all over it.

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Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
Sad misc:




Happy misc:


 

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Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
pwned!

excellent.
 

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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 

Angry Misc.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
so work got an xbox360 and I took it home for the weekend. I played Project Gotham Racing 3 for most of Saturday, and it is shiny. Hard (on hard level), but nice looking, even on my lo-def TV. Plugged it into my monitor and that made it even shinier. The DVD drive on the XBox is noisy as fuck though. Got Gears of War on my desk as I type, but won't get to play it until wednesday. Blue Man Group tonight. An 'unmissable' show, sadly.

[ 27.11.2006, 05:36: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Also played around with an eyetoy and Play3 on the PS2. Quite fun, and very tiring.
 

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Posted by Bad Tmo Boy (Member # 909) on :
 
I have been playing medieval 2 on my PC for a while, enjoying it very much but taking my sweet time, do any of you folks play this? or any turn based stratagy games?
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
sorry Tom, I was just locking up. The place is deserted. Let's go across the road for a pint.
 

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Posted by Bad Tmo Boy (Member # 909) on :
 

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Originally posted by not...:
Are americans more racist and homophobic than UK? because that's the impression I get. I mean, amongst the young it seems to be normal to call someone a nigger or a faggot, on xbox live anyhow. UK kids don't seem to do this.

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Originally posted by Bad Tmo Boy:
They are just fucked up little fat ***** who dont have anything good in their lives at all, (they are stuck in the US dont forget) they havent ever seen their penis's because their bellies expanded before their eyes even opened and their mothers installed an Xbox with HALO and Live connection inside their wombs so their little fat ***** could be fine upstanding murderous citizens of the most fucked country on the face of the earth. Where they come from 'Babies First Christmas' gifts come in the form of sniper rifles, suppressed MP5's or tec 9 uzi's with 50 round clips. Just because you dont play the game for 23 and a half hours a day and have a life, or at least something similar, they get all personal, fuck em.

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Wow. It's like you know each and every one of us.
 

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Posted by rooster (Member # 738) on :
 
thank you ralph.
 

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Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Bad Tmo Boy:

quote:

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Originally posted by not...:
Are americans more racist and homophobic than UK? because that's the impression I get. I mean, amongst the young it seems to be normal to call someone a nigger or a faggot, on xbox live anyhow. UK kids don't seem to do this.

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They are just fucked up little fat ***** who dont have anything good in their lives at all, (they are stuck in the US dont forget) they havent ever seen their penis's because their bellies expanded before their eyes even opened and their mothers installed an Xbox with HALO and Live connection inside their wombs so their little fat ***** could be fine upstanding murderous citizens of the most fucked country on the face of the earth. Where they come from 'Babies First Christmas' gifts come in the form of sniper rifles, suppressed MP5's or tec 9 uzi's with 50 round clips. Just because you dont play the game for 23 and a half hours a day and have a life, or at least something similar, they get all personal, fuck em.

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I am going to print this out so I can give a "quick witted" response to any abuse.

Also the other day, based on my sniper skills an American told me, in a very serious tone of voice that I'd be useless in Iraq. Thank god for those Halo2 kids they're gonna grow up and save the world with their mad sniper sk11lz.
 

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Posted by Bad Tmo Boy (Member # 909) on :
 
It was not supposed to offend Americans generally though i understand it could, and I dont care much either way. It was a reflection of the way it makes me feel to have some racist little fucking hick c*nt to start racially abusing me after spending £40 for the privelage of accessing xbox live, but hey if you want to defend the young people of your country not doing a whole lot other than 'Blasting on fools' virtually and otherwise then be my guest but dont get all upset when people express the opinion that its fucked up.

[ 27.11.2006, 09:16: Message edited by: Bad Tmo Boy ]
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I've started posting on the gamespot forums. Only really started today, and have been moderated twice, and sent this:

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I edited 'wanking' out of your forum post. By rights I should probably have deleted the entire post for offensive language (the TOS is rather strict on such matters), but felt you were making a good enough point that that would have been silly.

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Posted by Bad Tmo Boy (Member # 909) on :
 
Wankers
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I suppose it's no worse than what darryn did after I posted up "The cuntfucking poem"

[ 27.11.2006, 10:09: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
What did he do?
 

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Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
I fucked his çunt - hard
 

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Posted by Bad Tmo Boy (Member # 909) on :
 
What did Darryn do?
 

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Posted by Bad Tmo Boy (Member # 909) on :
 
Who'scunt?
 

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Posted by Bad Tmo Boy (Member # 909) on :
 
He cuntfucked mycunt hard when he threatened to ban me for taking the piss out of South Africans, but I think that might be something to do with much Dutch ancestry in South Africa, or maybe I was a bit close to the racism bone? I dont know I wil try not to do it again, please disregard my rant at racist american kids who play halo 2 online.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Been playing a bit of Gears of War recently, and I'm very impressed. I've never played anything like it in terms of capturing the frantic visuals and gameplay of comabat. And it's got awesome chainsaw action. Thorn was correct, as usual.

[ 01.12.2006, 05:55: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Does anybody apart from me have a gamespot profile / blog?
 

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Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
nah. I read yours though. I liked it.
 

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Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
God it's really flatlining in here this week. What's gamespot like, are the people in it chatty?
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
they're idiots, mostly.
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
but are they chatty?
 

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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
According to gamespot Wii versions of NFSCarbon and the new Splinter Cell are shit. Elebits looks good, but it's not out til March.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 

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Originally posted by ralph:
but are they chatty?

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I'm meeting my parents and my grandmother and my auntie in a couple of hours. Any messages you want me to pass on?

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I'm meeting my parents and my grandmother and my auntie in a couple of hours. Any messages you want me to pass on?

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Originally posted by ralph:
I've been married twice!

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Originally posted by ralph:
I like babes! I've been married twice! I don't think I like the accusations. If there's anyone here that doesn't like babes it's benway. He's single.

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Originally posted by jonesy999:

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I'm meeting my parents and my grandmother and my auntie in a couple of hours. Any messages you want me to pass on?

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Actually, that's actually quite massive actually. Isn't it Benway? When was the last time you saw all these Welshatives?

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Originally posted by not...:
I've often noticed a misogynistic theme in many of his posts.

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Yeah. I'm the misogynist.
 

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Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
I wasn't trying to suggest you make no effort to see your family. I was thinking about a conversation we had about you going up to Wales to visit your Grandma and Auntie. I didn't think you'd seen them in years.
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Oh benway...you haven't visited your granny in years?

punches benway in the face
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
no, yes, I mean, no. Yes. It's true though, I don't make any effort, and I did want to go to Wales, but it would involve leaving London, and I'm not okay with that right now.
 

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Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Yeah, Christmas in the smoke is irresistible. I understand.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm lazy.

and I'm babe crazy.
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Poor Granny. I visit mine at least once a year and they're both dead.

kicks benway for all granny's everywhere
 

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Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
I've never visited the grave of either of my Grandmas. I used to visit the grave of my best friend on a regular basis but, well, it's a long way away and I just never get round to it anymore.

[ 05.12.2006, 11:00: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 

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Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Bignuts toasting on an electric fire
ralph bear punching at your nose
dubious threads being posted by a ****
And tramps all frozen in the snow
 

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Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
*sighs*
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
my Granny is alright. Pretty lively.
 

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Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
I haven't seen one nan's grave, and haven't been by one in years - but have just moved close to one and have promised my mum that me and her will go and see the other one soon
 

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Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 

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Not
Bignuts toasting on an electric fire
ralph bear punching at your nose
dubious threads being posted by a ****
And tramps all frozen in the snow

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I dig carols.

[ 05.12.2006, 11:13: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Me too. I'm going caroling at some point this month.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
One of my grandmothers was cremated. I don't know where any of the others are buried. They're definitely all dead though.


 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
carols are bullshit.
 

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Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Trouble is that one doesn't seem to scan after the first verse.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 

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Originally posted by ralph:
I'm going caroling at some point this month.

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Originally posted by jonesy999:
I'm worried about ralph's caroling. Don't forget, he loves babes too much. And he's a sex addict.

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Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
At least he's not a child molester (afaik).

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Originally posted by H1ppychick:
which wife is this, ralph?

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Originally posted by H1ppychick:
we're both completely straight.

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Originally posted by jonesy999:
Careful Hippy. Babes beware.

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Is hippy a babe? I don't recall...
 

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Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Oh man, it's like Michael Douglas all over again.
 

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Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
H1ppy is a total babe.

Babe-a-licious, one might say. If one were so disposed.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
lolol
 

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Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
(cheers, stephen. no, really, thanks. )
 

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Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
I think he was loling at Jonesy999, not me.
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 

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Originally posted by Dedalus:
H1ppy is a total babe.

Babe-a-licious, one might say. If one were so disposed.

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And you know this how?
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
no, I wasn't laughing-out-loud at you being a babe, I was laughing-out-loud at the reference to the michael douglas debacle! Or...Were you not saying that?
 

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Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
I wish Kevin Bacon were here. He could totally tell the fuck out the day he locked Michael Douglas in a cellar at Skywalker ranch and had to recruit Sting to save Ralph Douglas from the gush.
 

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Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
Some things you just know, ralph. This is one of those things.
 

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Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
Michael Douglas's cock sets off metal detectors in airports. And there is no metal in it.
 

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Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
faux wounded pride is an excellent derailer of comedy flow. dammit.

bring home the bacon, jonesy!
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
this place, tmo, is basically like babe heaven.
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I know, Dedalus. I was just calling your bluff in hopes that you had photographic evidence.

[ 05.12.2006, 11:30: Message edited by: ralph ]
 

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Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 

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Big Nutes
this place, tmo, is basically like babe heaven.

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Originally posted by H1ppychick:

bring home the bacon, jonesy!

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Originally posted by Dedalus:
So you're not only someone who loves the babes too much, ralph, you're also into pr0n.

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Provided it's tasteful.

[ 05.12.2006, 11:34: Message edited by: ralph ]
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Anyone gonna be in Swindon on Thursday?
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I like normal babes with real curves, not stick insect babes who look like they'd snap if u had sex with them!!111!!! I LUV U KELLY BROOK!!!!
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I like normal babes with real curves, not stick insect babes who look like they'd snap if u had sex with them!!111!!! I LUV U KELLY BROOK!!!!

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Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Anyone gonna be in Swindon on Thursday?

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Originally posted by H1ppychick:
i think i like Dedalus. Do you have meat on your bones, Dedalus?

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Originally posted by Dedalus:

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Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Anyone gonna be in Swindon on Thursday?

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About 157,000 people, according to my sources.

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I think I was mocking the phrase 'real women', as if slim women are robots or aliens. The way it's used to make suggestions about character, you know, that there's something more earthy and genuine about fatter chicks, and deriding slim women for being false. The phrase is therefore maintaining the status quo, that the size and shape of the female body is a political battleground, rather than refuting it, as the phrase seemingly purports to do by employing the word 'real'.

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Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Also - NWoD is gonna dress up in ladies' clothes...

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Originally posted by London:
]I dunno...

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Well I do, so leave it.
 

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Posted by Dedalus (Member # 892) on :
 
Let it go, ralph. Let it go.
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I can't, kovacs. I can't.

[ 05.12.2006, 12:06: Message edited by: ralph ]
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 

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Originally posted by ralph:
Will pics be posted on the website-that-I-should-not-mention? Please?

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Originally posted by ralph:
Will pics be posted on the website-that-I-should-not-mention? Please?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:

quote:

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Originally posted by London:
]I dunno...

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Well I do, so leave it.

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I'll kick your ass tomorrow.
 

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Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
Didn't snow at all at the homestead, but I did run into a little of it as I was on my way to work yesterday morning. Which of course resulted in the typical reaction of OHMYGODITSSNOWING-WEREALLGOINGTODIE-MUSTSLAMONBRAKESANDCUTPEOPLEOFFATRANDOM!!!11!!!
except expressed in real life and not just through all-caps.
 

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Posted by rooster (Member # 738) on :
 
It's snowing right now.
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I love snow. It's what New England is all about. Snow. And high taxes. Tax money that never seems to find it's way to western Massachusetts. Oh no...it all goes east, to the important projects like the big dig, while western Massachusetts is completely forgotten.

[ 05.12.2006, 14:53: Message edited by: ralph ]
 

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Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
I never quite understood that argument. Sure, a lot of money is spent in the urban areas of the state, which in the case of Massachusetts are mostly in the eastern part of the state, but those are the same areas which generate most of the tax revenues for the state. So isn't that a wash? Money being collected and reinvested into the areas which generate it?

Unless you favor having the rural areas subsidised by the urban areas, in which case the "you never bring me tax dollars" argument makes a bit more sense?
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Sorry. Pay no attention to me. I was talking to a former boss of mine earlier today. He lives in Brookline. He asked me how New York was treating me. I asked him what he meant, and he said that anyone who lives west of 495 lives in New York. I don't want your tax money. If they were to pour money into my area, more people might move there and that would just suck.
 

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Posted by froopyscot (Member # 178) on :
 
Ah, the "westa woostah" mentality - i.e, that anything west of Worcester is beyond the ends of the earth. Boston is so cute when it's provincial.
 

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Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
WHAT are you TALKING ABOUT? Nobody cares about America, dudes!!!!
 

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Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
i do! but not about new england parochialism
 

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Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
ooh i might read something by Updike next
 

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Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
I read half of Owen Meany then mislaid it and never finished it. What I can remember was good, though.
 

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Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
Not New England, but The Coup is stunningly good.
 

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Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 

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Originally posted by H1ppychick:
I read half of Owen Meany then mislaid it and never finished it. What I can remember was good, though.

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There should be more book reviews like this.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Oh we're all in what are people playing at the moment? now, are we? Games is the new Life, I've been saying this for a while.

[ 06.12.2006, 05:15: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
people who actually play games must be getting moderately feverish about the impending Wii by now. I am. I'm also expecting delivery of this:



I loved the first one on the DS, so I'm excited about that. Also! Final Fantasy III is now out on the DS. I'm looking to get that aysap.

I downloaded HL2: Episode 1 at the weekend (from Steam - I'll about being legit) but my PC couldn't really cope, bless it. So that's something else I'll need to buy soon.

[ 06.12.2006, 05:36: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 

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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Wii should be here Friday. After an initial exploratory play I'll have to box it up and stash it away, though. It's for the Masketeers' Xmas.
 

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Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I dunno how feverish I am about Wii at present. I'm certainly lookin forward to it, but I'm still playing through Star Wars Lego II at the moment trying to collect/open everything (as is it's nature) and I've barely touched the very good Bully.

I'm working on this being a good thing though as what with Okami coming out in January, it means I shouldn't get carried away with Wii purchases and can comfortably hang back for some of the better post release titles.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
get out.
 

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Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I'm still getting it and Zelda Friday mind.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
better.
 

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Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
I've got mine ordered with Zelda for delivery Friday, but are there any other must haves coming out at launch?

Red Steel seems to be getting pretty poor reviews, excitetruck looks alright but I'm not a massive fan of driving games.

It's really going to kick off in March isn't it? That's when everything amazing is coming out on it?

Elebits is looking fun as BM mentioned earlier but that's not out until Q1 2007 apparently. Have you seen this domino type video of it?
 

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Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
Oh! Oh! I actually have a proper Games question and everything. I'd start a new thread but for some reason I am scared of starting new threads these days. I get ever more anxious with age. I am now officially scared of heights, lifts, illness, my dog getting hurt and possibly mushrooms. I'm undecided on the mushrooms.

Anyway. My father-in-law spends most of his time at work playing PS2 games. I want to buy him a simple, basic-ish driving game (cars or bikes, general like racing and crashing) for Christmas. And a steering wheel controller effort. Which game and wheel should I buy? Please tell me.
 

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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 

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Originally posted by SilverGinger5:
are there any other must haves coming out at launch?

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Originally posted by Louche:
My father-in-law spends most of his time at work playing PS2 games. I want to buy him a simple, basic-ish driving game (cars or bikes, general like racing and crashing) for Christmas. And a steering wheel controller effort. Which game and wheel should I buy? Please tell me.

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Originally posted by Black Mask:
What is he? A high court judge?

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Originally posted by Boy Racer:
I'm still playing through Star Wars Lego II at the moment trying to collect/open everything (as is it's nature)

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Originally posted by London:
WHAT are you TALKING ABOUT? Nobody cares about America, dudes!!!!

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quote:

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
Oh we're all in what are people playing at the moment? now, are we? Games is the new Life, I've been saying this for a while.

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I'd try to get back on topic, except the only 'game' I've spent time with is SecondLife, which isn't really a game now is it.

That's not 100% fact, actually. I've been enjoying Flight Simulator X quite a bit more since I loaded in the Harrier and have experimented a bit more with multiplayer play. (Though again- simulator vs. game?)

Rooster is very hot on the idea that we get a Wii. I'm a little hesitant, but that could be simply because the last gaming console I owned or played with any regularity bore the label "colecovision".

(nb. see? i can be on topic on occasion)
 

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Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
Cheers guys, terribly useful and informative of you. Logitec and Gran Turismo from Game looking like a good bet. Thanks muchly.

My father-in-law drives trailers. When a certain premiere north west based soap does location stuff, he drives the trailers out, then sits in them playing PS2 whilst the stars of previously mentioned premiere north west based soap sit about eating sandwiches between takes. Terribly exciting stuff.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
fans of paying import duty will be pleased to hear that I just had to lay out £20 on that castlevania gear. Lucky!
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
fans of hearing me bang on about shit that nobody cares about will be pleased to hear that I opened up the Castlevania thing this morning, and it's gorgeous. I'm not normally a sucker for bits of marketing junk, but this feels....special. I think I'll be playing this game until I get Zelda for the Wii.
 

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Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
Only really played on Friday evening and mostly Sports and Play, with a quick look at Zelda, just up too getting the sling shot.

I found a lot of the Sports stuff quite frustrating, including the training sections, but clearly need to work on timing my shots better.
You’re not wrong about the shoulder ache either Benway.

Liked the shape matching and cow racing games on Play.

I will let folk know my code etc when I’ve set it up.
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Does anybody actually play real-life sports anymore?
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yes, they do.
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I meant people here who are discussing the wiiii. What and when was the last real sport you played Benway?
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I had a few rounds of pool last night.

If you mean in terms of physically demanding competitive sports, I don't think I've played any since school. I was jogging over the summer, and I had an ill fated voyage into the world of martial arts a few years back, but that's it. I don't really like sport.

[ 11.12.2006, 09:32: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 

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Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
i've seen benway attempting martial arts. he's dangerous.
 

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Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
lol
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I sucked at it, and gave up like a bitch. What you saw was drunken homo-erotic shennanigans, not Wing Chun Kung Fu.
 

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Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
it was better than amp's video of two boys kissing
 

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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Oh god, I just remembered the last meat.
 

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Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
I was playing football up until my achilles pack up a few months back, during a pretty nasty defeat to make matters worse.
 

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Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
I play squash three nights a week, in a vain attempt to convince myself that I'm fit and healthy enough to make it beyond the age of thirty.
 

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Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
You'll be fine, Zygote. I drink almost as much as you and I'm 30 and a bit. How old's Benway? He's still alive, too.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm 40 in a fortnight
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I thought you were in your 20's.
 

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Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
But how do you feel, Benway? Good? Healthy?
 

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Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
the alcohol has pickled him ralph, like a shark frozen in time
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Didn't Benway have some strange bleeding issue recently? I seem to remember something like that...
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm not really 40. I'm really only 28 in a fortnight! Man I'm young. I've got my whole life ahead of me! I don't feel that great though.
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
You were born on Christmas day?

28. Man...those were the days.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
no, on the 20th
 

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Posted by Zygote (Member # 883) on :
 
I'm 29 in February. My girlfriend keeps mocking me due to my proximity to the grand old age of thirty. She's yet to realise that my laughter at her 'gag' is actually tearing me apart inside. Fucking bitch.
 

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Posted by Benny the Ball (Member # 694) on :
 
28 for a man is shit - I've said it before. Worse year of my life - and I've had it tough....etc
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
no, on the 20th

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I'm doing nothing for my birthday. Never do.

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Originally posted by Zygote:
I'm 29 in February. My girlfriend keeps mocking me due to my proximity to the grand old age of thirty. She's yet to realise that my laughter at her 'gag' is actually tearing me apart inside. Fucking bitch.

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
maybe have a little cry.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Louche:
Perhaps you could try brealing a limb?

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quote:

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Originally posted by H1ppychick:
console yourself with the thought that the older you get the cheaper your car insurance should become, ringo. assuming you don't have any claims, that is.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Ringo:
Nissan Skyline

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Originally posted by Boy Racer:
You should so have done that Louche, I can just imagine Ringo exploding jealous rage.

Which Skyline do you want most Ringo, the R34?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Ringo:
It comes with direct-port shut-the-fuck-up injection

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Is that the same stuff the Russian govt. use at press conferences?
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
oooh political
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Alright, Ringo?
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Yeah I'm good. You alright Misc?
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Not bad, man.
Not bad at all.
 

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Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I had my mate Marc and my brother in law Ian over on Saturday night to give the Wii it’s first proper try out as a party game.

It worked very well.

Tennis, baseball, and bowling we’re all winners in Sport, and although we’re still finding the putting a bit twitchy, we got on better with Golf. Playing the powerball training mode for bowling as a multiplayer was also a very good move.

In Play the shooting and cow racing were clear favourites, although I really like the matching shapes game too - the focus required for the later levels of which is dizzying.

I think we were probably playing for around six hours, and still wanted more. Wii now has another convert in my brother in law.

Our research also suggests that you can definitely play intoxicated, although I suspect some stretching will be necessary before future sessions as I ached like fuck by yesterday evening.

[ 18.12.2006, 05:26: Message edited by: Boy Racer ]
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Been playing Zelda, and it's pretty good. Sadly my order from HMV vanished, as does around 1/5 of all things I order, so I'm going to have to hassle the post office. I went out and bought the game on Saturday and have put in myabe 7 or 8 hours so far. It's got varied gameplay, great sound and graphics, and pretty much everything you'd expect. Nothing is really different, and the control system, while certainly better in terms of immersion within the game, doesn't seem to add any extra dimensions. Like, it feels better the flick your wrist to swing your sword than to hit the A button, but that's about as far as it goes.

I'm actually enjoying Castlevania more than I am Zelda. I'm a sucker for a 2D platformer, and I love love love both the DS Castlevania games. The look and feel is perfect, pixel art at it's finest, and it keeps me wanting to know what's round the corner. More so than Zelda, because in that game I assume that round the corner is some kind of shooting / running puzzle that once I figured out, might not be so fun to actually execute.

I've got Yoshi's Island to carry on with when I finish that, which has got good gameplay but I don't like the look of it. Final Fantasy III still hasn't turned up.

Oh, and the forecast channel appeared today on the Wii, but when I tried to access it, my remote lost sync with the machine.
 

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Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Still playing Halo 2, strangely I seem to be getting worse. My kill rate is embarrassing. Im never going to get as good as any 13 year old kid, It's a bit of a fucker really. Time to buy a wii maybe.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I never finished Gears of War, and had to give it back to the guy I borrowed it off. Stopped being fun once I got near the end, and was just a real hard slog. On the 360, all I've been playing is project gotham racing. I can usually win online races, so it keeps me content.
 

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Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Did you play GOW online? I've never actually played Halo2 not online (well a few times but I never got into it). It's just so much better against real people, even if those people are annoying teenagers. I imagine GOW would be an excellent online game.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
No I didn't play it online. I figured seeing as I couldn't even finish the hardcore single player campaign, I probably wasn't much good at it. I'm not much of an online player anyway.

[ 19.12.2006, 06:58: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 

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Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
There's not much point to Halo 2 offline is there? I haven't done much online gaming yet mind, apart from round at Marc's.

I imagine the Wii, and my flatmate moving his 360 downstairs, might change that though.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
after The Incident on Unreal 2004, I've not found it in me to frag opponents.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I still play a bit of DEFCON, but usually lose in such a way that makes me thinking I haven't grasped the fundamentals of the game. I tried to play lost planet and rainbow six online demos on the 360, but neither seemed to work.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I liked the way animal crossing DS worked as an online game.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Is anyone else playing Today? The gameplay is ace and the graphics aren't bad apart from the rubbish draw distance.

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
ooh! Just bought

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Los Angeles, 1979. You are Kyle Hyde, an ex-cop turned salesman trying to track down a missing friend. Clues lead you to an eerie, old hotel rumored to have one very strange room – a room where wishes are granted. It's up to you to unravel the mystery in Hotel Dusk: Room 215, a gritty new graphic adventure for Nintendo DS. Players hold their DS like a book and use the touch screen to grill characters, search for clues and solve mystifying puzzles. Players follow the plot twists and turns as they hunt for their missing friend and investigate the mysteries of Hotel Dusk.

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And look! I'm the main character.

Anyway, I bought it using ebay, so I'll probably never see it.
 

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Posted by Fionnula the Cooler (Member # 453) on :
 
Did you ever play Trace Memory, Benway? It was pretty shit. That's what's putting me off Hotel Dusk. Same development team, I think. Rubbish dialogue, anaemic story, boring characters - just like every other computer game ever made, I guess. But Hotel Dusk seems to be trying to pass itself off as some sort of interactive novel, which would be fine if it was interactive Pale Fire or something, but blatantly it's gonna be an interactive Dan Brown short story, one that Dan Brown himself deleted from his harddrive before anyone got the chance to read it because even he realised it was utter shit.

Literary immaturity is ruining most games for me these days. It ruined Twilight Princess, whose initially promising story had an epileptic fit halfway through, smacked its head on a table and died. Its pervasion of Resi 4's dialogue ('If you lay one finger on Ashley, you'll be sorry!', '*Tut*, women', etc) totally undermined the brilliance of the gameplay. Even Phoenix Wright serially raped my eyes with its persistent tautology ('the pointy tip of the knife!'). I mean, really. We don't put up with that shit in books, so why should we make exceptions for games? I dunno. Maybe I'm just expecting too much.
 

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Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 

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Originally posted by Fionnula the Cooler:
Literary immaturity is ruining most games for me these days. It ruined Twilight Princess, whose initially promising story had an epileptic fit halfway through, smacked its head on a table and died. Its pervasion of Resi 4's dialogue ('If you lay one finger on Ashley, you'll be sorry!', '*Tut*, women', etc) totally undermined the brilliance of the gameplay.

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Or maybe that you should just start writing some games concepts.

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
a friend lent me GRAW and Oblivion for the 360

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Originally posted by jnhoj:
thorn, do you wanna play gears of war on co op with me sometime?

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Downloaded Super Mario World on VC. Completed it. Still one of the best games ever, but painfully short compared to stuff I've played before.

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You should try *this one, 'dude'.


 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Yesterday I had a long session on Ghost Recon Advanced Warfare for the 360. A good game. The initial stages of the campaign are incredible. It's like watching war footage or something. I also had a crack at the mulitplayer, and got owned by everybody. You know, I'd be stalking round some cover, lining up on the enemy, and then I'm dead - a single headshot. Over and over again. Bah. Still, it's a better game than I first thought. I just wish I didn't suck so bad at multiplayer.

I also played a few rounds of Mortal Kombat online, and after winning a few, decided to quit while I was ahead. Up Back Up Up High-Kick!
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I've started getting back in to * Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines - a Source-based RPG that was released in bug-ridden and unfinishable form back in 2004. I played the game shortly after it was released but gave up due to the frustration of frequent crashes and missions that couldn't be completed. The developer, Troika , released a couple of patches which fixed a few of the problems and then went bust, leaving fans of the game with little hope.

I'd pretty much forgotten about Bloodlines until last week when I happened across some information about a team of people who had taken on the task of writing their own patches. The game is now much more playable and despite the occasional glitch, I consider it to be almost as good as the original Deus Ex. Aside from the Vampiric stylings, there are a lot of similarities between these games, including the choice of dialogue affecting your progress, the many ways of completing tasks, and the freedom of choosing which characters to side with. The voice acting is excellent (for a game) and despite its age, the graphics are still reasonably impressive.

I'd recommend the game to anyone who enjoyed Deus Ex but was disappointed by Invisible War. I don't understand why this style of game isn't more popular, as it's way more involving than any FPS I've played.

Read more *here.
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 

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I'd recommend the game to anyone who enjoyed Deus Ex but was disappointed by Invisible War. I don't understand why this style of game isn't more popular, as it's way more involving than any FPS I've played.

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keep meaning to go back and try out the different endings but haven't got around to it as yet.

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I wouldn't have said it has the same level of freedom as Deus Ex though, seemed a little more linear to me, granted you can choose what order to do things in and who to ally with, but in deus Ex there are whole sections of the game that you never see unless you speak to the right person or make the right alliance.

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Anyone know if there's going to be a Deus Ex 3? I know Spector said at the time that he wanted to do one but it seems to have disappeared withoutb a trace...?

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"The brains behind such games as Theif and System Shock has said that he would like to return to the Deus Ex Universe, for there are many more stories to tell. The only problem is Eidos owns the IP rights."

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Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
if you haven't got around to playing it through a number of times, how do you know that Bloodlines doesn't also have whole sections of the game that you never see unless you speak to the right person?[/i] freedom.

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Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
One of the things that really annoyed me about oblivion was the fact that it was levelled so whenever you went up a level, all the enemies did too. Or if you went into some dungeon, you wouldn't find anyone way, way beyond your skill level. It just made the whole levelling up aspect pointless. Relative to the world around you, your strength etc never really changed.

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Also is the combat in "realtime", or "turn based"? I played a Final Fantasy game on the Playstation years ago, and I couldn't get along with the bizarre notion of striking your opponent then retreating, waiting five seconds, then getting attacked, then waiting... etc. That's the one element which has kept me away from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - otherwise it seems like an amazing game.

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Thanks for the info, Physic, and happy 2k.

I assume both of these games are "on line", correct?

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I probably shouldn't bring up Star Wars Galaxies, as I've read a lot of scathing criticism, but has anyone played it? I think you have to pay a monthly fee or something ridiculous.

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I was banging on about this when it came out. If you've ever played a game online and had it turn to shit, then a fixed fee is paltry in comparison to having your favourite game raped by haxxors.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Wow, I just found an *old thread on the subject, started by Charrudeboi. I was complaining about subscription fees back then too, as well as correctly predicting the title of the final Star Wars film. Great days.
 

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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Wow, old me is mongy.
 

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Posted by Hades (Member # 57) on :
 
on the wii im currently playing Zelda and on the DS im still working my way through New super mario brothers and Leo star wars (the bugs in that latter game piss me off so much that i ofton put it down and dont pick it up again for several weeks)
 

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Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I played Wii Sports with a couple of mates again on Saturday night (Tennis, Baseball and Bowling. Mostly Bowling) and Red Steel (which one of them lent me) for a couple of hours on Sunday.

Red Steel's not brilliant but it's not a bad introduction to the possibilties of the Wii controls in an FPS.

Will be getting Okami later this week I think.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Played a bit more GRAW at the weekend. Still shit at it.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
do any other forumites have gamercards?



[ 05.03.2007, 11:50: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
dear God I hope not.
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I do keep meaning to register on Xbox Live. I'll add you as a friend when I get round to it. I might try it tonight as I think I'm on my own this evening again. That's been happening a lot recently now I think about. Ever since Valentine's day. She shouted something tearful about going to see her mother and... yeah. I don't really remember. I was a bit drunk and trying to play Gears of War.
 

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Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I see you have 3 stars of 'rep' there bad-boy.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 

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I do keep meaning to register on Xbox Live. I'll add you as a friend when I get round to it. I might try it tonight as I think I'm on my own this evening again. That's been happening a lot recently now I think about. Ever since Valentine's day. She shouted something tearful about going to see her mother and... yeah. I don't really remember. I was a bit drunk and trying to play Gears of War.

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If you do, we could play doom online or something, on XBLA. I don't have GoW anymore
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 

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I see you have 3 stars of 'rep' there bad-boy.

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It starts on 3 stars, and nobody has rated me. I just slip in and out of multiplayer games without making friends.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I too had a serious relationship crisis while playing GoW. I spent a whole day trying to play it, and got through most of it, but at the same time I was in a day long "how to make the relationship work" meeting with Louise after a spectacular booze fuelled breakdown the previous evening. Lots of pausing the game and blankly staring at her as she talked to me about relationship stuff, and then getting the action in when she 'went out for a walk' or was on the phone to her friends. Playing it silent and agreeing to everything saw me good in the end.

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Posted by Hades (Member # 57) on :
 
I've spent the last hour or so playing the new Sonic game on the wii.

It's not to bad but i havent come to a full judgment yet.

I was temporeraly pleased that the bad guy wasnt robotnik (I refuse to call him eggman) but the git still managed to pop into the game in the first world. Im sure he'll end up revealed to have been the master planner of the whole thing.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm just getting stuck into Oblivion. Seems pretty good. I like the persuasion game.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Thorn, the friend request didn't work properly
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Er, yeah. I didn't get round to joining XBL last night. Just did some writing and then played Crackdown for an hour or so.

Crackdown's good fun mind, although you'll probably find many of the same problems with it as you did with Dead Rising. No escort missions, though, which is always a bonus.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Oh right.


*cries*
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm not into Crackdown. I tried the demo and it didn't really like how it looked. I've just ordered Viva Pinata and Ridge Racer 6 from lovefilm, which should keep me going. I've still only got half way through GRAW, and the multiplayer is very addictive.

What I would like is Outrun 2, but the fucking thing doesn't run on the 360, only the xbox.
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I suck quite badly at GRAW. It keeps confusing me - all that stuff on the HUD.

Well done on getting a mortgage by the way. Where are you moving to?
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
you have to give it a few hours, but once you get into GRAW, it's superb. Honestly, recommended.

As for the mortgage... It's in the process of being sorted, so I haven't got it yet. They said it should be okay, but today I need to go to my bank and beg for a statement, and then go to another bank and present some stuff, they've then got to call my agency etc, so we'll see. The place itself is in finsbury park.
 

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Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
 
Has anyone played Crackdown yet? Apparently it's supposed to be GTA on steroids, and instead of a criminal, your some sort of agent. I want it.

here's an ign link.
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 

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Has anyone played Crackdown yet?

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Apparently it's supposed to be GTA on steroids,

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Never heard of it.

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
sorry thorn, it didn't work again. Maybe there's a problem with your account?

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Has anyone on here got an Xbox Live account? I'm looking for people who might be up for a bit of Doom on XBLA, or maybe GRAW? Here's an ign link here.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yeah I'd be up for a bit of GRAW. My gamertag is Finsbury78. Can you see how I came up with that.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
also, that link doesn't work.

Hey thorn if you like games, why not join up with gamespot? It's free, and it's another chance for you to add me as a friend!
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I'm already a member of Gamespot, although I find the forums heavy going. Last time I was on there I got in a fight when I claimed that maybe if someone didn't go in for PC gaming it wasn't because they were a jobless 14 year old living with their parents, but just that they had other things to spend their money on like maybe, kids, or a house or buying their own food, which didn't go down well at all.

I dunno. All the PC games are clogged up with 'Will my computer run this?' threads and all the XBox forums are 'Will this be a Halo beater?' and all the Wii forums are 'Review says the controls are "shit"'. So I don't really get much out of it.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
you're already a member!? Then what's stopping us from being gamespot pals?

me
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
u-unless..

..in which case..


 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Well, exactly.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I...
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Christ, this is embarrasing.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I've clocked up around 15 or 16 hours in Oblivion now, and I'm getting into it. Also - a tmo forumite has added me as a friend on Xbox live! Not thorn.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
You can double that, because I hit 35 hours last night. That's a lot of Oblivion. 19/60 achievements so far, which suggests an alarming completion time of over 100 hours. Still, not bad for £20.

I was picking locks in my dreams last night as a result of caning the thieves guild questline - only two more ranks to go.

What else. Stuck on FFIII, right near the end, which is annoying after 35 hours of dungeon crawling to get there. Picked up Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles on xbox arcade yesterday morning. Funny story actually. We were supposed to be going to see Gilbert and George at the Tate followed by Citizen Cane at the NFT, but instead I spent the day playing 4 four player TMNT on xbox live. Much more fun.

Anyway, thorn, I didn't get the friend request this weekend again. I'm going to email Microsoft and find out what's going on.

[ 19.03.2007, 06:35: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 

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Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Is the TMNT an exact replica of the old arcade game? If so I may have to put off buying a bike for a month and buy a 360 instead.

I got Tiger Woods for the Wii on Friday but unfortunately due to actually going out and playing real sport I didn't get as much time to play as I'd hoped.

Controls are quite hard to get the hang of. It turns out that if you swing with both hands it's really hard to hit it straight so at the moment I'm swinging with one hand. This is irritating as I want to swing as if I'm hitting a golf ball so will have to practice.

Graphics are very meh. I mean obviously they're nowhere near the 360 graphics for the game but they're not as nice as RE4 on gamecube which is how I judge graphics for the wii. There are stupid deer in the course that are basically 2d rendered deer shapes that have 2 position - head up and head down and no movement to get in between which looks really awful and would have been better totally left out.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
it is an exact replica of the arcade. Four player is pretty awesome.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
thorn, Microsoft got back to me and said that they hadn't even seen any pending friend requests for me! I told them that there was obviously a problem with their system, and they'll email me again tomorrow after having a closer look.
 

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Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I got Okami. It is very Zelda-like, the 'celestial brush' control system is thrillingly innovative, it looks fabulous, and is immersive and compulsive. I'm not far in, but I'd say it's easily one of the best games out on the PS2.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I just played oblivion again. 1 more achievement. Game lasts for fucking ever.
 

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Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Awesome. Street Fighter Turbo and Final Fight coming to the virtual console.
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I can't get my fucking Wii to work with the fucking wireless internet. I set it all up, keyed in my WEP and all the rest of it, tested the connection and it says "Yeah, fuckface, you got a connection", (not word for word, but that's the gist). It even downloaded a couple of updates (useless, mainly). Then when I try and go into the Wii channels it does wheeling spastic arms and tells me I need to agree to the agreement. So I go into the agreement and I'm all like, "yeah, bitch let's get Connect24 on the go" and it says "Connect24 services not being offered at this time, lol". WHAT THE FUCK! Why is everyone else being offered it and not me? Fucking c**ts.
 

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Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
I had the exact same problem and I fixed it.
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
You are such a motherfucker.
 

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Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Yeah. The thing is I can't remember how I fixed it so I'm having a quick google. It was something to do with changing the settings on the wireless router I think.
 

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Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Ah. I set the router channel to 1. Lots of sites said it has to be set to 1 or 11 to work. Try that.
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Cheer for coming back on that. I tried setting the router to channel 1. It didn't get the Wii working but it did stop wireless internet from working at all, on any device in the house.
 

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Posted by Boy Racer (Member # 498) on :
 
I haven't set up my wireless Wii thing either, but mostly because I'm a lazy luddite.

I got The Godfather for Wii this week. Extorting folk is indeed great fun with the Wii controls.
I just managed to start a gang war in the process of taking over the Tattaglias warehouse in Little Italy.

God I want GTA to come out for the Wii now though.
 

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Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 

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Cheer for coming back on that. I tried setting the router to channel 1. It didn't get the Wii working but it did stop wireless internet from working at all, on any device in the house.

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Is it really worth all this hassle

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hey, if you ever get it sorted out, you could add me as a friend!
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
still hammering Oblivion, although the end is in sight now. Finished Mage Guild, Fighters Guild, Theives Guild and Arena, so only the main plot and the Dark Brotherhood to go. Currently closing oblivion gates, which is a bit of a gyp.

Last night I bought Castlevania: Symphony of Night in a fit of XBLA madness, and that's pretty good. Genuinely fun, and I didn't realise how similar the DS versions were to the original console releases.

I bought Elite Beat Agents at the weekend, so should have that in a couple of days. That's one for Louise too. Puzzle Quest is still mad addictive, although it's definitely getting harder as I progress. It's so hypnotic though.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
also - GTA IV trailer looks pretty sweet. Watched that a few times now.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 



A cross between pinball and bagatelle, and so addictive...
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
GTA IV will be 2007's Bomberman Act Zero. Mark my words. Long loved franchise gets revamped for the next-gen with a graphical overhaul that ditches the cartoon style in favour of a more 'serious' look.
 

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Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Godfather just gets more and more entertaining. I was trying to extort some baker woman and she was having none of it. For some reason she seemed to think she should keep the money she earned rather than paying it to me. Anyway, I started strangling her a bit which was doing OK, then some guy ran in and started shooting at me. Quickly shift focus and drag him. Look around for something to slam him into when my eye falls upon her open oven. Now this isn't one of your electric ovens, this is a big chamber full of flaming coals. I drag the poor schmuck over to the oven and to my joy I get the "Throw over ledge" instruction pop up. Flick both wrists forwards and I'm rewarded with "Cooked Execution".

I am now spending most of my time trying to find every execution possible.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I think that the main potential problem isn't that it'll look better than previous games, but that it seems to be set in the present. The previous two games have had massive amount of nostalgia value from my childhood and teenage years, and fulfilled some genuine personal fantasies. It's hard to see how they could do that for me if the game is set in the early 000's, or even the exact present.

Still, I'm sure it'll be alright. I can't believe they'd fuck it now, having got the formula so right in the past.

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still hammering Oblivion, although the end is in sight now. Finished Mage Guild, Fighters Guild, Theives Guild and Arena, so only the main plot and the Dark Brotherhood to go. Currently closing oblivion gates, which is a bit of a gyp.

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Last night I bought Castlevania: Symphony of Night

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Damn that's got some great tracks on there - Ramones, White Zombie, BLS, Donnas, Hendrix - shame there is no planned release on the PS3 - I wonder if the device would work on the new system?

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Nah, a brummie, though I can see what you were trying to do there.



Big Mick Hughes, and some speaker things
 

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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Rock's been very good to the midlands, hasn't it?
 

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Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
And the midlands have been very good to us for the Rock. In fact I always used to like stopping in brum as it had so many metal fans - I believe the highest concentration in the UK at one time. Dudley will always hold special memories of Rock for me
 

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I seriously doubt it - Metallica are very protective of their music, hence why you will not find any of their tracks on compilation CD's - the only Metallica tracks I can think of that appeared on non-metallica albums are their version of 53 and 3rd on the Ramones tribute, and I heard also they recorded a track for an Ennio Morricone tribute.

Incidentally, I know their Sound Engineer, the famous Big Mick.

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Eye-Toy

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A couple of miles I think - assuming that's the Donnington you're talking about.

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I laughed at him and called him a geek. You should have seen his face. It was a picture. Oh yes.

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Skeletor: People of Eternia! I stand before the Great Eye of the galaxy. Chosen by destiny by the powers of Greyskull! This inevitable moment will transpire before your eyes, even as He-Man himself bears witness to it. Now. I, Skeletor, am Master of the Universe! YES! Yes... I feel it, the power... fills me. Yes, I feel the universe within me! I am... I am a part of the cosmos! The power flows... Flows through me! Of what consequence are you now? This planet, these people. They are NOTHING to me! The universe is power! Real, unstoppable POWER! and I am that force! I am that power! KNEEL BEFORE YOUR MASTER! Fool! you are no longer my EQUAL! I am more than man! MORE THAN LIFE! I... am... a... GOD! Now. You... will... KNEEEEEL! KNEEEEL!

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guitar hero just turned up. Nobody was impressed when I fake-rocked out to show it off to my colleagues. It's like toy guitars aren't awesome.

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But it's true that 3 olds these days are little whores. You should see them all hanging around near the end of my road. I've called the police more than once, but they're all like whatever dude.

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The filth know full well there's fuck all they can do about the under-fives.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
that's what steering wheels will look like in the year 2048.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 

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But Im very excited to say I can get as far as 73% on Freebird Expert with hyperspeed.

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Originally posted by guitargirl:
But Im very excited to say I can get as far as 73% on Freebird Expert with hyperspeed.

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I picked up Guitar Hero 2 for the ps2 for about 10 minutes and couldn't control the damn thing AT ALL. I kept crashing over the edge, or driving into rocks, and then got sort of stuck in the sky, rotating. I have to say I hope that Guitar Hero for the xbox 360 is easier.

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
my wrist hurts and my hand is still shaking after about five hours of playing last night. It's good. Killing in the Name is especially enjoyable.

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I just can't get my head round the appeal of Guitar Hero over playing a real instrument. Excepting the solo, Killing In The Name Of is a pretty simple song that takes about three hours to master on a real instrument. Surely that's much more satisfying? It worries me a bit, because it's the sort of thing my dad would say, but while it seems understandable to play games that let you go into gun battles, drive performance cars, kill pedestrians, why on earth would you play this game that's like a retard's version of a real life hobby you could do in the same space, wiht the same investment of time, with a more exciting result?
 

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Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Is this guitar simulation exactly the same as playing a real guitar then? I assumed it was for people who couldn't be bothered to learn the real thing. Just press the C Major button occasionally when the 'PRESS THE C MAJOR BUTTON NOW AND GET THE GROUPIES, ROCKSTAR!' message pops up and the machine plays the rest while you dance around your flat pretending to be Fuck, the lead guitarist from Whores and Bastards.

[ 11.04.2007, 05:42: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Yeah, that's the gist of it. The controller looks like one of those Fisher Price guitars that make an electronic beep when you press the buttons on the fretboard. I mean, that's basically what the whole thing is about.
 

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Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 


Imagine an actual 30 year old man playing that. Really, just picture it in your mind for a moment. Imagine going back in time about 15 years and showing someone, maybe yourself, a picture of that guitar toy and then trying to convince that person from the past that a 30 year old man would be playing with that after a hard day at work.
 

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Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
At some point during our lifetimes somebody or something broke the future.
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I'm amazed that anyone would consider this to be some kind of 'coup' that it's not on PS3.

Yes..
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Even though everyone else from Dirtbox seemed to think Tilde was the shittest one, I've actually laughed at alot of its posts - including that one.

I might try pitching a novel-writing game, where you have a keyboard with five keys representing "noun, adjective, verb, adverb, preposition", that people can bash with their fists when prompted and simulate writing a real-world bestseller, for which they then get applause from computer generated characters. Watch forums get filled up with posts like "Man, last night I almost nnailed To Kill A Mockingbird on the 'One off flash of genius' setting.
 

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Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 

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Originally posted by Ringo:
I'm amazed that anyone would consider this to be some kind of 'coup' that it's not on PS3.

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Yes but with the PS3 they probably will have a USB interface to a 3,5" jack to plug into a real guitar, and then once you have mastered the licks on the highest level, it will ressurect Jimi Hendrix in your own front room to bestow your Guitar God status in person and give you James Hetfield's private phone number so you can do the next tour for him when he next enters rehab. For the PS3 is that good....
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I suppose it's different to somebody sitting in their room learning to play a real guitar because in guitar hero you have global leaderboard points, a kind of cartoony career mode, unlockable and purchasable content, a 'simulation' of playing actual gigs, varying levels of difficulty, a control system that is NOT a guitar, etc. The best way to think of it is that it's not playing the guitar, it's playing a computer game.
 

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Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
In the future, you'll be able to play computer games on guitars. That will be interesting.
 

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Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 


July 2012 and Possessed Sue finally gets her hands on Sony's new PS23.

[ 11.04.2007, 07:03: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 

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Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
In the future all children will be living vessels for evil spirits. That will be interesting.
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
a control system that is NOT a guitar, etc. The best way to think of it is that it's not playing the guitar, it's playing a computer game.

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I dunno, man. There's something about the title of the game that makes me think the guitar part is quite a big factor. Maybe it's the word 'hero', or something, but I'm definitely getting the feeling that the game is really about fulfilling 'I can play that song!' fantasies for people who - unfathomably - can't be fucked to dedicate a similiar amount of time to actually doing that thing. There's something about the controller that suggests that to me, too. Something about the way it's different to the normal XBox controller. It looks familiar, somehow... like it's supposed to represent something other than a games controller.

[ 11.04.2007, 07:12: Message edited by: Nathan Bleak ]
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Why do real vacuuming when you could buy one of these for just £16.74:



As you can see, it looks like a small version of a real Dyson vacuum cleaner. Marvel at the colourful plastic balls that bounce around in the 'cyclone enclosure' as you push the unit back and forth across the floor.

ETA: I've heard that there's a bluetooth version coming out shortly for PS3. It'll be packaged with a game of Japanese origin, by the name of Total Hyper Suck-Suck Party™ 2

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you have a keyboard... that people can bash with their fists when prompted... for which they then get applause from computer generated characters.

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a control system that is NOT a guitar, etc. The best way to think of it is that it's not playing the guitar, it's playing a computer game.

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I dunno, man. There's something about the title of the game that makes me think the guitar part is quite a big factor. Maybe it's the word 'hero', or something,

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Is this... what?

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I mean, this all stems from the age old anti-gaming thing of gaming experiences being less authentic than real life, when in reality gaming will only draw inspiration from the themes and subjects of real life.

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Playing a rythmn game is nothing like playing the guitar. You're not playing notes, you're not creating anything, you're trying to beat a pre-set challenge within a gaming framework / narrative. The satisfaction comes from the challenge - surely a real guitar is more about the direct result of twanging the strings, and the freedom to interact freely with the equipment?

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Is there some sense that people who play this game are lazy, or cheating, or somehow degrading the experience of playing the guitar, simply because the game draws inspiration from common perceptions of the experience of being a guitarist in a rock band?

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Originally posted by jonesy999:
In the future, you'll be able to play computer games on guitars. That will be interesting.

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Thing is, it'd probably be very different if there were a version of the game into which you plugged your actual real life guitar, and learnt to play various rock tracks for real. That would be really good in fact.
 

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Posted by dang65 (Member # 102) on :
 
I'm sure they could set up a valid music training gaming with a keyboard interface. Like you'd have to keep playing a boogie-woogie rhythm with your left hand to keep moving, and then you'd play different melodies with your right hand to fire different weapons or jump or whatever you have to make one lot of pixels do in order to make another lot of pixels do something else very noisily.

You'd suddenly have loads of hip dude Jools Hollands all over the place.
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I'm liking that idea a lot actually. Games which help you learn to play an instrument. You could also have online play where you can jam online with people around the world. That would be an absolutely brilliant idea.

It would be worth learning an instrument just to be able to do that.
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 

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I'm liking that idea a lot actually. Games which help you learn to play an instrument.

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[QUOTE]The game seems to strive incredibly hard to fulfil the fantasy of playing kick ass rock songs on the guitar - the shape of the controller, to the point where it's not simply drawing inspiration from a theme of real life, it's trying to mirror it in a simplified - or genuinely retarded way - and therefore making it absolutely less of an experience.

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I don't think the basic ruleset of Guitar Hero II is 'nothing like' playing a real instrument - rhythm - obviously - is a factor in both, and when you're playing someone else's songs it's really about making sure you're hitting the right bits at the right times, and the satisfaction comes - as with the game - in nailing those predetermined structures. Maybe this is the thing - I don't see the game a completely different, but instead like a simplified baby version of a real life pursuit; not something that takes inspiration from real life and builds on it in an imaginative way, but a way of mirroring a real life hobby and retarding it to make it accessible.

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I think there's a sense that the game is an embarrassment to computer gaming because - as you point out - it makes real the criticism that games are a shitter version of real world pursuits. It's the way it simplifies it down and then makes a virtue out of the fact that not only is it easier but you also get instant rewards and pats on the head that you wouldn't get if you did this in the real world. Other than this silly window dressing, it doesn't add anything to the experience, it doesn't make it fantastical, it just tries hard to ape it. It makes me ashamed to play computer games.

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Originally posted by Ringo:
I know there's a big project going on here at the moment involving looking at how computer games and computer games technology can be integrated into education. I know they've been looking at things like Second Life because of its versatility. I've mentioned this to one of the chaps (actually my brother in law) who is vaguely involved in the project.

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I'm involved in that kind of thing at work. My job is 50 - 75% researching and developing learning games at the moment. It's fun until you spend a week evaluating the level of immersion in management accounts simulators.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
I'm sure I remember playing a MIDI based game for learning piano, back in the '80s. The graphics were crap, but the concept was excellent.

The good thing about MIDI is that it can provide information about which key(s) have been pressed, how hard, and for how long. So you can easily pass all the information from the instrument to the computer / console.

I think it would be possible to attach a cheap USB keyboard like the one below, but whoever made the game would obviously make a "cool" looking peripheral and charge £££ for it.


I imagine it would be more difficult with a real guitar, violin, tuba, etc, as you'd need some pretty sophisticated pitch detection, but with a suitable microphone or pickup attachment, even that shouldn't be a problem for the current crop of magickal-multi-core consoles.
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 

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Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
I imagine it would be more difficult with a real guitar, violin, tuba, etc, as you'd need some pretty sophisticated pitch detection, but with a suitable microphone or pickup attachment, even that shouldn't be a problem for the current crop of magickal-multi-core consoles.

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Originally posted by SilverGinger5:
Just wanted to say that was an awesome game of Gears of War we had last night Nathan. You really covered my back well. See you again tonight and we'll destroy some more Americans?

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
pathetic.

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i picked up guitar when i was 15 and only took a year to get good. not slash good but still good.

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Slash?!?
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
that's pretty impressive.
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
How can you call that impressive? Only yesterday you were saying how pointless it was to try and be good at anything.
 

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Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
lol, I'm pretty sure that Nathan is Jimmy's internal monologue.

[ 27.04.2007, 05:08: Message edited by: Tilde ]
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
It's impressive because what he's doing doesn't even look physically possible. That's got no real bearing on my lack of competitive spirit has it?
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Well, you know I was thinking about this comment, on the thread yesterday where you tried to outlaw both excitement and achievement, where you say you don't see the benefit of being the good at something, unless you can make money from it (not a particularly convincing point to begin with).

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I don't see the benefit of coming first. I know that you could potentially get money if you get really really good at something, but I've never really considered that to be in scope.

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
It's impressive because what he's doing doesn't even look physically possible.

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Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
Well. It's too late for sorry now.

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Originally posted by dang65:
I suspect no clay.

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
bad news brother. Wii sports isn't internet enabled.

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
you've got it. Only one game so far is internet enabled. Pokemon. Not out in the UK yet as far as I know.

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Hmm, that sucks. Ah well...
 

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Posted by Fionnula the Cooler (Member # 453) on :
 
Mario Strikers Charged will be the first online multiplayer game here, I think. Out May 25th, apparently. For some reason we're getting it before the US. Maybe because it's shit.
 

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Posted by squirrelandgman (Member # 201) on :
 
I can't stop playing Winning Eleven(Pro Evo). It's terrible. It's humiliating. I am getting routinely anhialated by Japanese, Korean and Hong Kong teenagers. I can't win. Ever.
I can't even score.
I should stop playing. It hurts my hand because the 360 controller D-pad is shit.
It causes physical and mental pain. Fucking idiot.

I have been playing a lot of rock, paper, scissors as well and I am pretty good against 8 year olds.
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I've not played on my wii in ages so I thought I'd put it up for sale. I put it up for £150 which I think is a reasonable price considering it's got so many virtual console games on it.

Within 2 minutes of putting the notice up on the intranet at work, it's sold. I should have asked for more money.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
yeah I think it'll be another six months before we see the truly awesome games coming out for the Wii. After launch I suppose it's common to have a dry spell while developers get their heads around what the public wants from the machine. Xbox360 had the same thing, and now the Playstation3 seems to be just recycling old 360 games.

[ 03.05.2007, 04:53: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 

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Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
Although I'm not playing mine much at the moment there is no way I'm going to sell it.

Out this year we should have Metroid Prime 3, Smash Brothers Brawl, Mario Galaxy, Paper Mario (already out in US/Japan), Fire Emblem, Mario Strikers, Trauma Centre and Manhunt 2 which are the ones just off the top of my head that I definitely want to play.

This is of course assuming that I can stop playing warcraft long enough to get into any of them (have managed 2 rounds of golf in tiger woods since getting it due to being addicted to this stupid game)
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
there's not much about for any system at the moment. Even my beloved DS seems to be in a drought. Apart from Pokemon, which I still feel a bit awkward about.

At the moment the Wii is mostly just youtube / email on the TV. I've not been impressed with any of the virtual console stuff, not when compared to how brilliantly the xbox360 is doing retro gaming.

[ 03.05.2007, 05:12: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I've enjoyed Godfather for the Wii a great deal - probably the game I've played most. But the XBox still gets the lion's share of attention. I finally signed up to Xbox live last night. Benway (Shit-Earth Benway) should even have a fiend request pending. Downloaded Street Fighter II and remembered just how shite I was at it. Couldn't get off the first level. Then got addicted to some stupid puzzle game called Hexics, which was just... fucking... Like Tetris it's no fun, but you can't stop playing. Mostly, though, I've been back on Crackdown.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
hey, let's play some games together then! Do you have GRAW? Maybe I should get GoW again so we can play on that too.
 

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Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
He's lying Big Nuts....


 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I do have GRAW, but it confuses me a bit. I was quite up for some 2 player Crackdown, too. The games I've got are...

Dead Rising
Saints Row
Ghost Reconnaissance: Advanced Whorefighter
Gears of War
Crackdown
Perfect Dark Zero (TOTAL SHIT DO NOT BUY THIS NOT EVEN FOR 2 PLAYER)
Lost PLanet
Burnout Revenge
Dead or Alive 4
Splinter Cell: Double Agent

Also, tonight my wife is out canvassing for votes or some such shit, so I should be 'around' until about 8.30, at least.

[ 03.05.2007, 05:24: Message edited by: Nathan Bleak ]
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
okay, a bit of crackdown then. I'll be around all night, from about 6.30 onwards.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 


[ 03.05.2007, 05:37: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 

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Posted by Physic (Member # 195) on :
 
I can highly recommend Legend of Zelda : Twilight Princess on the Wii, played it last night and it's superb - nice graphics, nice mix of combat and puzzles, and great use of the controller.
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Just had a read through of the new Kane and Lynch preview at Gamespot. Looks pretty impressive, especially the extent to which they're focussing on character and the effect that has on the game. Suprised and disappointed that the co-op is likely to be offline only - would have enjoyed playing with Benway as Lynch who, it says here, is schizophrenic, sees occasionally sees innocents the same as enemies, and feels more powerful the more people he kills.
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I'm really looking forward to Spider-man 3 collector's edition. The other two haven't really grabbed my interest so much, but I'm a sucker for Venom and would like to sling webs and beat up bad guys with a high definition black suit. Also, commentary by Bruce Campbell FTW.

Anyone got any idea of the release date? Gamespot just say May..
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Comes out tomorrow, Ringo.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
can't be better than doing the double hook shot stuff in Zelda on the Wii.
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I don't know about that. Still, I can get my grappling hook fix when I get Tomb Raider: Anniversary.

May is shaping up to be a reasonable month in terms of computer game releases. I should have plenty to play once I've finished Tony Hawk

[ 03.05.2007, 08:39: Message edited by: Ringo ]
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
hey nathan - crackdown is about to be beefed up in a pretty major way
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Good-o. I like Crackdown, although i agree with what you said about it being a shame you can't really live in the world. It's more like a playground.

I discovered the co-op missions on Graw the other day, so next time we're both on Live, we could give them a go, rather than waiting ten minutes to join a match that crashes on start-up.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
sure, okay. When do you want to try that?

I finished crackdown the other day. There's still loads of vehicle achievements I could get but... I don't know. There's no fun to be had in driving.

[ 10.05.2007, 11:18: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I now have Tomb Raider: Anniversary on pre-order. Unfortunately they pushed the date back to June 1st. Still, watching the videos and trailers makes me very excited. Tomb Raider was like a real turning point for me, when I started to realise that games weren't just something you picked up for an hour or two and enjoyed then never bothered with again. It was the first time I sat down with a game for hours on end, finding myself looking at the clock and wondering where the evening had gone, or sitting in the small hours of the morning repeatedly playing through the same bit of level almost gnawing the TV with frustration at failing at the same part over and over again. Yeah, I loved Tomb Raider, and Tomb Raider 2. After that they got shit until Legend. This is a new reason to get excited about Tomb Raider.
 

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Posted by Amy (Member # 11) on :
 
I lovelovelove Tomb Raider. What's up with this Anniversary edition?
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
It's basically a remake of the first Tomb Raider by the people who made Legend. But not just the original game with new graphics, apparently all the levels and puzzles have been revamped to take advantage of Lara's new moves etc etc. Lots more content, better graphics... I'm not a huge fan of remakes of anything, but this makes me very very excited. The only other remake that would get me this excited would be if they actually did remake FFVII for the PS3. Still maintain it's the best RPG ever.

[ 12.05.2007, 04:10: Message edited by: Ringo ]
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 

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sure, okay. When do you want to try that?

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I heartily recommend it to Black Mask.

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Originally posted by Black Mask:
I ordered Wii Play, Marvel Ultimate Alliance and Rayman Raving Rabbids, as well. I need to get another nunchuck. Wahhh!

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Rayman Raving Rabbids on the Wii has me laughing like a big stupid child. Losing sleep over Marvel Ultimate Alliance.

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Fuck. I must have f-forgotten. I feel a bit sickened, now. If I've forgotten that, who knows what else might have slipped my mind?
 

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I've just finished Family Guy the PSP game.

T'was Okay I guess..

Now back to playing Outrun.

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Ouendan is just like a kiddie fischer price version of being a male cheerleader who solves dilemmas through the power of accurately timed motivational dance routines.

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Mr Williams, who says he is speaking to lawyers about a possible claim for wrongful arrest

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I sometimes wonder if being able to pick up on small things like this is some kind of indication that I spend far far too much time playing computer games.

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Currently, they have no plans to bring [Silent Hill 5] multiplatform, although they may be forced down that road if PS3 sales don't improve.

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We have identified the following software firewall(s) as being incompatible with the use of the Nintendo Wi-Fi USB Connector. We suggest using another firewall product, if possible:

Zone Alarm Internet Security Suite

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Originally posted by Ringo:
I thought you were a game fan, Benway? Why would you want them to make a version which isn't as good as they wanted it to be?

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Originally posted by Ringo:
Actually I had problems with mine a couple of times where it inexplicably wouldn't connect to my gateway until i cycled the power on both the gateway and the Wii, then it would pick it up again.

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Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:

Also, if the PS3 is the only console that can deliver this thing, how is it that not one single multi-platform game looks better on the PS3, and in several cases looks worse?

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Also I had the exact same problem with my Wii connection that SG5 is describing. By the way dude, did you find that tape?

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But then you know all this. It's mostly a case of brand loyalty that makes people want to put down another console.

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
one day I'm sure the Ps3 will be worth it. At the moment, one tech demo isn't enough to justify it, especially as the actual games coming out at the moment for the ps3 (according to internet sources) look and feel worse than those coming out for the xbox.

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sure man, and if it didn't cost twice as much as an xbox, the ps3 would be a viable photo viewer / DVD player / internet device.

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sure man, and if it didn't cost twice as much as an xbox, the ps3 would be a viable photo viewer / DVD player / internet device.

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I suppose if you want to compare like with like (ish), you'd have to price the PS3 against an Xbox 360 with HD-DVD drive. From what I remember, there's not much in it.

ETA: Here's a picture:

PICTURE

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
But again, these hi def video formats aren't yet worth it. At the moment, most people I'm sure would rather pay less and do without. I'm with mcandrew. Give it a few years.

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
I still sometimes build my dream PC on dabs, get quite close to buying it with spread payments, wake up, and then decide to leave it six months until the next Nvidia card either comes out, or six months later, becomes affordable.

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Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
Also I had the exact same problem with my Wii connection that SG5 is describing. By the way dude, did you find that tape?

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I managed to sort out my wii to go online yesterday!

What I did was thusly...

go start>run>cmd then type ipconfig/all

Write down the two dns servers you have. You then go into the connection settings on the wii, go to advanced settings on your wireless, scroll right twice and then enter the two dns server addresses into the boxes there.

This didn't work for me however, but then I found another site that said if you switch them around so the second one goes in the first box and vice versa it should sort it out and miraculously it now works.

I am now going to have to buy mario strikers though as I got bored of being connected to the internet through the wii in about 37 seconds without any games to play.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I've put an order in for Mario Strikers. And Forza 2. And pre-ordered Halo3. And ordered Ouendan 2. And downloaded the complete Sam & Max series. Fans of Phoenix Wright should keep an eye on imports because there are rumours of an English translation being available in in the Japanese release of #3.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
also - bomberman on xbox live looks good.
 

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Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
I thought you weren't into halo?
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I'm not, but you know, every other **** will be playing it so I should at least get up to speed. I like fps games as long as I can play in teams. I like the whole team bonding side of things, looking out for each other, being heroic etc. The current deathmatch on the demo isn't much fun. I always end up just hiding in a corner.

[ 04.06.2007, 08:03: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I only realised like yesterday, that Halo was by Bungie, who made the Marathon games for Macs, way back in the 90s. Nobody ever really talks about marathon, but I'd say those games are right there with Doom etc.
 

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Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
There's team slayer too and Big Team Battle, and on the non ranked games there's Skirmish games like territories and VIP etc.
I find it does get better when you learn the maps so you at least know where the weapons are and know which weapons are best for each situation. It stills sucks to be sniped all the time by one guy, I hope the matchmaking will be improved so that more even match ups will happen.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Saying that, even in team games, I still suck and blow very hard. on GRAW, I'm the chimp getting cut down within 2 seconds of enemy contact while my pals are all ducking and double-tapping.
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Keep practising, you'll get there eventually
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
so does your face.
 

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Posted by Tilde (Member # 1215) on :
 
This is the frustration, even if you devoted your life to the game you would never get as good as the 12-17 year old age bracket. The new gamer generation, with thumbs that move like lightning, advanced peripheral gamer vision and super sensitivity to dolby 5.1 subtleties.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
Yeah I suck.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
hey thorn, are you going to get forza?
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Maybe. I didn't used to be a huge fan of racing games. I really did enjoy Burnout: Revenge, though, so it's kind of whetted my appettite for them. However, I hear that the crashes are a bit muted on Forza (something to do with car manufacturers not wanting their products to be seen as fiery instruments of horrific death), which removes half the appeal. I like crashes, you see.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
oh right. Yeah. The new Colin McCrae game seems to be more about crashes. Not quite as spectacular as burnout though.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
blah blah blah.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 

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Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
However, I hear that the crashes are a bit muted on Forza (something to do with car manufacturers not wanting their products to be seen as fiery instruments of horrific death), which removes half the appeal. I like crashes, you see.

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Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
Maybe. I didn't used to be a huge fan of racing games. I really did enjoy Burnout: Revenge, though, so it's kind of whetted my appettite for them. However, I hear that the crashes are a bit muted on Forza (something to do with car manufacturers not wanting their products to be seen as fiery instruments of horrific death), which removes half the appeal. I like crashes, you see.

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Thing is, Forza and Burnout are like opposite ends of a very long spectrum. Burnout is a pure arcade racer, completely removed from the experience of actual racing. In fact, am I right in saying that out of its many many modes, only one of them actually concerns itself with the order in which you cross the finish line?

Forza on the other hand is as close as the developers feel they can get to accurately recreating the act of driving a car. It's meant to be a complete simulation of racing, with all its subtelties, including such things as tyre pressures and flex, differences in wind speed, strength of braking, and all of the minute adjustments you can make to your vehicle to make it competative. It's exactly the kind of game that appeals to a complete petrolhead car geek like me, whereas I wouldn't have thought you would get the full enjoyment out of the game, because you're not going to want to spend whole evenings playing with your ride height, damper rates and gear ratios.

I might be wrong, of course, and maybe you'd really enjoy it. But I think it's a bit of a leap to think that your tastes have suddenly switched to enjoying hardcore racing sims, because you enjoyed crashing cars on a light hearted arcade game.

It's like, say you're having sex one day and maybe your partner pinches your or something and you're all like "hmm, that wasn't bad actually. I've never liked anything kinky like that before. But hey, it seems I should now go and buy some full S&M garb, and build myself a dungeon of pain"
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Yeah, you're absolutely right Ringo. Forza doesn't sound like my kind of thing at all. Customisation, breathtaking accuracy and considered driving don't appeal in the slightest. I liked Burnout just becuase it was 'plough through the traffic' high speed nonsense. Forza 2 now sounds a bit too much like the last thing I would ever want to bother doing with my free time.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
If you crash hard enough in FlatOut, your driver will fly out of the windscreen in all his ragdoll glory. Alongside the racing, there are a number of mini games, based on the idea of launching your driver to his death.

 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Well yeah, that's pretty much the impression you've given.

'I dont' like car games but I like burnout becasue I can crash cars together and make them explode'

Even your post above alluded to it.

Like I said, maybe I'm wrong, it's just that Burnout and Forza are like chalk and cheese. Totally different style of game. Enjoying one doesn't suggest you're going to enjoy the other. I'm not trying to tell you not to give it a go so no need to get all upset about it.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Check, one, two...
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 

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Originally posted by Ringo:
so no need to get all upset about it.

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Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
If you crash hard enough in FlatOut, your driver will fly out of the windscreen in all his ragdoll glory. Alongside the racing, there are a number of mini games, based on the idea of launching your driver to his death.

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Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
Ringo - In your opinion, can Forza really hold a candle to the PC driving sims, such as rFactor and Live for Speed?

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I've not played rFactor so it's hard to comment, and I've not actually played Forza 2, just the first one. However in my personal opinion a game like Forza/Gran Turismo etc will always be hampered by the controller it's designed to be played with. Realistically you can only play LFS properly with a steering wheel and pedals, and preferably one like the Logitec G25 with a clutch pedal and H-pattern shifter along with 900 degrees of rotation. You can have the best physics in the world but there are elements of the control system which determine how you interract with them.

For instance steering angle. In a real car, your steering wheel is connected to the wheels via the steering rack. If you steer hard, you'll get understeer, even if it's a shallow bend. If you steer harder the steering wheel will eventually wind round to the lock stops as your car slithers forward into a hedge. you steer and steer, but nothing happens, the car continues to go forwards. On LFS, this happens as well. On a console game, you don't have finite control of the steering angle, and the rate at which you turn the virtual wheel. That is to say, the angle of the front wheels is not 'directly linked' to the angle of the analogue stick. There's a control system in place which determines how quickly your electronic driver turns his virtual steering wheel and the angle at which he will stop turning. As you start to experience understeer, the virtual driver will stop winding on steering angle. So while you are pushing the analogue stick all the way to one side, the effect on the car may be as little as half steering angle. If the angle of the wheels were directly linked to the angle of the stick, then it would be almost impossible to drive.

There are many other examples of this. For the most part, a good ajority of people will play a game like Forza in automatic gearing mode. That, in itself, is unrealistic in a car which has a manual gearbox. You have no clutch, no control over the severity of the throttle input, etc etc. In LFS, you have the option of using auto gears but the experience is so deviod of control you generally don't want to. Just like in real life, driving an automatic at pace is a frustrating and annoying experience. But there's more to it than just that. In LFS, the throttle input is managed just by you, so if you 'flatshift' (i.e. change gears while holding your foot on the throttle) you'll eventually damage your gearbox, and it'll affect your performance. You're encouraged to drive it exactly how you would a real car.

That's not to say that LFS is without its faults. The steering wheel, no matter the force feedback, isn't connected to actual wheels, and so the movement is not accurate. The motors in a force feedback wheel lack the torque required to make the wheel turn at the rate it would in a real car, and if they did then you'd never be able to turn the wheel. For instance, in my Mazda one thing I used to enjoy doing: steer into a corner half throttle, then feather the throttle to loe traction before hitting the gas to slide the tail round. When the car starts to slide, you just let go of the wheel and it will automatically countersteer at a rate greater than your hands would ever physically be able to turn the wheel, and then you grab the wheel at the desired angle to stop it, and power out of the corner.

So there's no such thing as a perfect driving simulator because you're limited by the input device you use, and by the fact you need to keep the experience accessible to people without being ridiculously difficult. What developers aim to do is give an aprroximation of the feel of driving. Something which, while not perfect in terms of absolute realism, gives the sensation of driving a car while still being a fun game. The nature of a PC and the various input methods available, means that a greater level of technical realism can be achieved, although it's hard to quantify a 'satisfying driving experience' which is why sometimes a game like Forza et al, can be more rewarding and almost feel more like actually driving a car than a full on simulator.
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
lol
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Thanks for the reply Ringo. I'm using my wheel for everything at the moment. Even X³ Reunion. There's something way cool about driving a space ship with a steering wheel and pedals, using the gear paddles to fire frickin' lasers.

I tried playing a Forza on xbox a few weeks back, but I found the control pad really frustrating, like it disconnected me from the driving. Rumble isn't a patch on force feedback.

I still find arcade racing games enjoyable, but as you say, they're in a totally different category to simulators. I find Forza falls into an uncomfortable middle ground. Although it may be very accurate, it's just not realistic enough for me, at least with one of these:


 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
To be honest I never found Forza that realistic compared to Gran Turismo which is why I never liked the game as much. I haven't played Forza 2 so can't say if it's better or not, although you'd assume they would have improved the feel and response. One thing about Forza that did always impress me was how the game conveyed the sense of weight in the cars. Without ABS engaged, braking from high speeds is something you need to plan carefully, pick your marker and make constant adjustments to the braking pressure as the car decelerates, making sure not to lock the wheels. There's a sense of bery strong forces at work, rather than on GT where you can basically just mash the brake button and the car slows down.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
I just bought my first ridiculous luxury.

Remember, you don't own products, they own you. Destroy your nice things.
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Wow, that's a helluva set. 40in? Jesus Christ. How big's your new house?

Here's Fawn's top tip for LCD: usually the default settings are set to eye-bleedingly bright and unnatural colours to make the picture really leap out, so it's worth tinkering with them. Also, turning the sharpness down on non-HD inputs (like regular DVD, for example), actually improves the picture quality and eliminates that thing where people's skin appears to smear and crawl around their skull.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
it should still be possible to squeeze two people in the lounge with this tv if they do a half sit/kneel thing against the back wall.
 

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Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Those massive screens absolutely rape your electricity.
 

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Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
I've got a bigger telly than that.
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
maybe I made a mistake.
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Oh Benway.

I never thought of you as one of them.
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
How big is yours Louche? You never really struck me as that 'enthused' about movies.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Lol, I bought an air conditioner the other week.


 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
screw movies. I'm in it for the xbox.
if it's too big, I can just send it back, right?

Right?



[ 06.06.2007, 08:54: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jimmy Big Nuts:
maybe I made a mistake.

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Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
I'd love to have a projector set up in a dedicated room; a proper home theatre. When we move house I either want to have just a home cinema room, or maybe a howling room instead.

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Originally posted by Ringo:
Right. Well that'll be the last time I try to have a joke with you. Nice one.

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Originally posted by Louche:
Are you alright, SilverGinger?

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Originally posted by Ringo:
Yes SG, we all saw it. We're all very impressed.

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Originally posted by SilverGinger5:
Sorry for being a bit of a dick, I'm a bit stressed and snapped before I realised it was a joke

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No no, pray don't mention it
 

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Posted by SilverGinger5 (Member # 49) on :
 
sorry, that was actually a lie - removed.

[ 06.06.2007, 10:04: Message edited by: SilverGinger5 ]
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
For fuck's

[ 06.06.2007, 10:06: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
dvdactive
 

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Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
What an odd interlude.
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Sorry - my fault entirely.

Let's pick up where we left off...
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
no... this thread...I don't know. Feels kind of different now. It's - it doesn't feel right. I think you've ruined it, misc. Over twenty pages of text, and you've managed to ruin it all.
 

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Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
Bad Misc. *shakes head*
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
I've emailed the mods, asking them to lock and delete the thread.
 

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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 

No!
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
That's best, Nathan. Actually, it might help if we could ban tmo. I'll contact Microsoft and ask them to delete tmo from the internet. That should go some way to stopping misc from reaching out from the land of horses and ruining things for people.

[ 06.06.2007, 10:36: Message edited by: Jimmy Big Nuts ]
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Actually, I'm glad this thread's going down the pan. The title's kind of grating when you see it all the time. It sounds like the sort of thing that the head twat of the office would ask on a 'work night out', before bragging about his massive new TV.

Someone should come up with something better.

[ 06.06.2007, 10:37: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
shut up.
 

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Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
stupid Misc.
 

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Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
Haven't you done enough damage for one day, Misc?
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
LOL, tomorrow would've been this thread's birthday!


 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 
*cries*
 

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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Where did Big Nuts get the money for a telly like that, anyway?

What's going on?
 

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Posted by Jimmy Big Nuts (Member # 895) on :
 

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Originally posted by Dr. Benway, 1 year ago:

Aside from all that horseshit that I just said - what are people are 'rocking' at the moment?

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Originally posted by Black Mask:
Where did Big Nuts get the money for a telly like that, anyway?

What's going on?

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Originally posted by Black Mask:
You should've bought it on credit. Then you could've spunked your savings away and you'd still have a telly.

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Do you work as a financial advisor, by any chance?
 

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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 

Me, earlier today.
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Vogon Poetess was the greatest person in the world at saving up. I've never known anyone like it. Hoarded like a squirrel, she did. Apparently, when she died she had nearly 25k in her savings account.

[ 06.06.2007, 10:52: Message edited by: Nathan Bleak ]
 

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Posted by Nathan Bleak (Member # 1040) on :
 
Hang on. Sorry - it says here I'm not supposed to post that until 2009. Sorry. Shit. Just ignore that. Sorry.
 

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Posted by Black Mask (Member # 185) on :
 
Saving is for mugs. Spend everything!
 

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Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 

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Originally posted by Nathan Bleak:
Vogon Poetess was the greatest person in the world at saving up. I've never known anyone like it. Hoarded like a squirrel, she did. Apparently, when she died she had nearly 5k in her savings account.

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