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I keep finding, over and over again, scathing references to things I love - music, books, cars, films. This thread idea came from yet another comment about the Morris Marina being just about the most hideous and useless car ever built. I used to have one of those and it drove like a Starsky & Hutch car. It was fucking great. It used to roll and squeal on corners, or on the straight for that matter, but it was fast, and even nippy. But it's the standard joke when it comes to bad British car design. Apparently.
The 70s right? "The Decade That Taste Forgot." Don't be daft. It was the decade that did whatever it fucking wanted, without any sign of self-awareness. It produced more leaps in musical progress than any decade in history. Everything was invented in the 70s, apart from a couple of things in the 60s. Instead of taking the piss out of the 70s we should be saying, how can we get back there? Look, it's nearly 2005 now and what has happened in the first half of this decade so far? Naff all, as Porridge would probably put it. The 70s was The Decade That Boredom Forgot, that's what it was. Fuck knows what they're going to call this decade.
What else? Oh yeah, I was reading a thread about Led Zeppelin's Coda album of outtakes and live stuff. It's got a track on it called Bonzo's Montreaux which is basically a drum solo, but groovy as fuck and easily the best track on the album, IMHO. In other people's honest opinion on that thread... "The album's quite good, but you'll HATE Bonzo's Montreaux. What a load of shite that track is!" Repeated by others over several pages. Duh.
My favourite author is Sven Hassel FFS. The most ridiculed author in history, near enough. And there's loads more examples, but...
What do you see criticised all the time even though you love it?
The band who had the piss taken out of them more than any other in the mid 90s. The reason for this seems to be that their singer, Marijne van der Vlugt, used to be a VJ on MTV Europe, and before that a model. Someone at NME decided that this made her a figure unworthy to be succesful in the field of music, and made their point clear upon the release of each new single, album and gig review. This came despite it being clear that Salad were more innovative and interesting than the majority of female-fronted bands of the time (Sleeper, Echobelly, etc).
Salad pressed on regardless until they finally split in 1998. I often wonder what would have become of the band, had they stayed together.
The most annoying thing is that before her MTV career, Marijne was already in the band. In fact, she got the VJ job when delivering a copy of her demo to MTV studios.
Fans of the band (and I know there are still a few) will be interested to hear Marijne's new band, *Cowboy Racer.
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My favorite movie of all time is “Mallrats,” which is denigrated even by its creator, the fabulous Kevin Smith.
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quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: The band who had the piss taken out of them more than any other in the mid 90s. The reason for this seems to be that their singer, Marijne van der Vlugt, used to be a VJ on MTV Europe, and before that a model. Someone at NME decided that this made her a figure unworthy to be succesful in the field of music, and made their point clear upon the release of each new single, album and gig review. [...] The most annoying thing is that before her MTV career, Marijne was already in the band. In fact, she got the VJ job when delivering a copy of her demo to MTV studios.
In fairness, Misc, I used to watch a lot of MTV in the early-to-mid-1990s and derision for Marijne was a perfectly understandable phenomenon. In a gallery of talentless fulkwints, (Ray Cokes, Davina McCall, VJ Ingo) her gagtastic blandness really was something to behold.
quote:This came despite it being clear that Salad were more innovative and interesting than the majority of female-fronted bands of the time (Sleeper, Echobelly, etc).
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A moderately strong hand, although I still own four Belinda Carlisle albums that I bought between 1999 and 2001. Only one thing can really trump Johnny Hates Jazz, however...
Curiosity Killed the Cat.
(I think the band "Black" would also be a contender. Hue and Cry = Full House.)
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Don't worry Kovacs, I have 2 Deacon Blue cds, one Belinda Carlisle (although this might be hiding in my mum's collection) and a stack of Fleetwood Mac. I don't find Fleetwood Mac to be too ridiculed apart from when there are threads asking what a certain song is and someone pops up to say "it's The Chain by Fleetwood Mac!". I also have a Del Amitri cd. Oh and I loved those Alexander McCall Smith books which Octavia referred to in embarrasment on another thread.
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My fortune cookie's empty... That's also the title of my autobiography.
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Ooh I bought a Salad cd single years ago 'motorcycle to heaven'. But I never really heard anything else from them after that, so didnt really think to explore albums.
I used to get ridiculed for being a Wolverhampton Wanderers fan when I lived there. But I loved going to the games. I miss saturday afternoons in the fresh air and watching wolves. They weren't ever a supremely confident team but it was fun to see them doing well in the first division and when they did go up to the prem; although it was depressing to see them trounced week in week out but it was worth it to see the likes of Henry, Van Nistelroy, etc.
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Very recently, like three months ago recently, I bought this...
There's no real reason or excuse for it. I didn't buy it drunk, or for my mother, or anything. I bought it for me to listen to. And I listen to it a lot (not when anyone else is around though). I don't know what to say. I find it very charming, soothing and quite uplifting. It makes me happy, and it's especially pleasant after 90 minutes or so of death metal, a bit like the bizarre euphoria that comes afer an hours vomiting.
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quote:Originally posted by Roy: I bought this last month:
When has anyone, ever slagged off Fairport Convention, and especially Liege And Lief? Give me their names and I will kill them, tomorrow. It's got Matty Groves on it FFS.
quote: When has anyone, ever slagged off Fairport Convention, and especially Liege And Lief? Give me their names and I will kill them, tomorrow. It's got Matty Groves on it FFS.
Sorry about that. Deep breath.
I have heard it used to describe the taste of 70s hippies.
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Yeah, Enya actually is surprisingly pleasurable in my experience. I own her first two albums on "cassette" (anyone remember them) so it's not quite the commitment to unfashion that Thorn has shown.
I had a culture-slap this morning when, after a few days of thinking "gosh, that Katie Melua sounds lovely doesn't she" and singing Closest Thing to Crazy winsomely to myself, I decided to check her out on Handbag's music board and discovered that apart from a fulsome vote of confidence ("Buy It") from forum beauty "Hey Angelina" in January 2004, everyone there was rubbishing the song, the album and the artist over a multiple-page thread. I am officially much naffer than Handbag Music girls.
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I've just spent 20 minutes sifting through pictures of Enya on google image search trying to decide whether or not I'd fuck her. My first reaction was "definitely, yes" but then she didn't look so good in some of the other photos. A bit worn, somehow. Also I started to consider what manner of encounter it would be. I imagine it'd be very gentle, almost peaceful. I think I would quite like that, although I suspect it may seem a bit too close to making love to your own mother. So Enya gets a "maybe" from me.
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quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: Also I started to consider what manner of encounter it would be. I imagine it'd be very gentle, almost peaceful.
You can find out if you're the lucky winner of Mind, Body and Spirit Magazine's weekly competition. Complete the following phrase in ten words or less to be in with a chance of spending 24 hours with Enya at a health spa in mystical Norway, surrounded by candles, essential oils and a range of gigantic love aids.
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I think my worst thing that I own and listen to on a semi-regular basis is the Best of De La Soul. Closely followed by the Best of Soul II Soul. They were in the cheapy basket in Tesco, ok?
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O come on! Neneh Cherry's "Buffalo Stance" is not embarrassing. You knowa'amean?
I had a similarly queasy, quasi-erotic enagagement with Belinda Carlisle as I toured pix of her for this thread. Her late 80s publicity images are, of course, tanned babehood, waves of heavy hair and scoops of cleavage. Shots from more recent gigs though -- at dubious venues like Canary Wharf, or on best-of/rest-of tours with Heaven 17 -- she looks like someone's once-pretty mum. It prompted confusing thoughts, because for me she's far and forever removed from my real life anyway (I have never seen her live) and as far as her connection to me goes, she might as well be young and 80s... that is, she only exists as a celebrity in some mythic realm of images for me anyway, so for me, there is no reason why "Belinda Carlisle", the icon, has to age. "Belinda Carlisle", for me, is just a collection of mediated pix, rather than a real person, so am I justified in filtering out and ignoring her mumsier recent stage, and treating that as the "truth"? That, is, if someone asked me if I wanted to shag Belinda Carlisle, could I say "yes, selectively"?
Don't worry I sound like a wanker even to myself, typing all this.
quote:Originally posted by kovacs: "Belinda Carlisle", for me, is just a collection of mediated pix, rather than a real person, so am I justified in filtering out and ignoring her mumsier recent stage, and treating that as the "truth"? That, is, if someone asked me if I wanted to shag Belinda Carlisle, could I say "yes, selectively"?
Don't worry I sound like a wanker even to myself, typing all this.
LOL - Kovacs doesn't consider Belinda Carlisle's recent existence to be canon.
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quote:Originally posted by saltrock: I think my worst thing that I own and listen to on a semi-regular basis is the Best of De La Soul. Closely followed by the Best of Soul II Soul. They were in the cheapy basket in Tesco, ok?
How are these bad exactly? Apart from them being 'best of's instead of Three Feet High & Rising and Club Classics Vol 1?
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quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: LOL - Kovacs doesn't consider Belinda Carlisle's recent existence to be canon.
You're right... that is what I'm doing, isn't it. Like those purists who are all for me, "Star Wars" is the ORIGINAL TRILOGY, no more, no less
But as I have never had any personal connection with the real life of the real person Belinda Carlisle, and as she's only ever been "Belinda Carlisle" for me, the mediated star persona constructed through what albums, publicity pics and videos I've encountered, she is a series of media texts for me just like Star Wars is a series of media texts, and in a way it makes just as much sense to decide which ones you are going to "accept" as your personal canon. As far as I'm concerned, after all, she is no more a real individual than is Anakin Skywalker. I have no connection whatsoever with the fortysomething singer who's probably in bed with her husband in Los Angeles right now. My connection is with the persona who is the sum of all the videos and songs I've come into contact with. In those terms, I can be as selective as I like.
Thanks Misc for your thought-provoking comment. Can anyone tell I am bored at work 2day.
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When I was 15 I got into the Prodigy, which was deeply uncool for my fellow gribblers. When I was at uni all the "guitar heavy metal music" ie Suede, Ash etc was a bit much for my new friends.
Out of the last 3 albums I bought, one was the best of Britney and one was School Reunion: The 80s triple disc box set.
Also, I seem to be against current taste by having very dark colours in my bedroom instead of a lilac bedspread, laminated flooring, pine Ikea picture frames, modern Art prints and bunches of twigs in square glass vases.
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quote:Originally posted by saltrock: I think my worst thing that I own and listen to on a semi-regular basis is the Best of De La Soul. Closely followed by the Best of Soul II Soul. They were in the cheapy basket in Tesco, ok?
How are these bad exactly? Apart from them being 'best of's instead of Three Feet High & Rising and Club Classics Vol 1?
I have been laughed at on more than one ocassion for these. Aha - maybe it just means that the people who laughed had really shit taste and now I can go laugh at them! Yay!
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