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i wrote a post about this, imagined how the whole thread would play out, decided not to bother. So, well done for believing when others didn't.
I'm yet to see any great remakes from the current crop, so I won't be holding my breath. It certainly doesn't look very nightmare on elm street like. The thing with the original film is that it really feels like a dream. The whole film has got an eery quality about it, nothing ever feels really real. The strangely stilted acting and the claustrophobic locations make it feel like everybody is trapped inside the wrong reality from the very beginning. Freddy was only one element in this. This new one doesn't look like that at all.
Whatevs, it's probably not as if kids these days can sit through the relatively plodding nature of 80s slashers. And it's not like the NOES series represents the greatest set of cinematic achievements to date, or indeed, anything other than over-exploited merchandising fodder.
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quote:Originally posted by Kanye West: And it's not like the NOES series represents the greatest set of cinematic achievements to date, or indeed, anything other than over-exploited merchandising fodder.
Not true! It represents how to turn things around after 5 rubbish installments and suddenly deliver a remarkable and interesting finale. Plenty of debates about which 'Part IIs' actually outshine the original, but NOES is the only series I know of to deliver a genuinely brilliant Part VII.
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They should probably go the whole hog and re-boot the franchise.
I would transpose the setting to the UK - probably Liverpool (European capital of butchered youngsters and floral tributes) - and have Freddy played by Jack Straw.
If the action were based around some really middle class Catholic school you could have all sorts of themes of guilt and retribution worked in there.
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quote:Originally posted by Kanye West: And it's not like the NOES series represents the greatest set of cinematic achievements to date, or indeed, anything other than over-exploited merchandising fodder.
Not true! It represents how to turn things around after 5 rubbish installments and suddenly deliver a remarkable and interesting finale. Plenty of debates about which 'Part IIs' actually outshine the original, but NOES is the only series I know of to deliver a genuinely brilliant Part VII.
Yes, it's a very good film. It don't think it's representative of the series though. I mean, when I think about NOES, I don't think of it as 'the series that had an amazing part seven', but rather one that was driven into the ground by franchising. I don't think that new nightmare even fits in with the rest of them really. It's seems more like a spin off. I don't doubt that you'll disagree with that.
I like part 2 of the series.
I saw Freddy vs Jason in the cinema, and that isn't very good.
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Is it a Nightmare on Elm Street in which someone's tendons are pulled out of their arms, and they're used like a puppet? I saw this film at a bigger boy's party when I was about ten. Thought it was pretty cool and terrifying at the time, and I think it's the only Nightmare on Elm Street film I've ever seen.
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three isn't great, but it's better than four. I think it makes sense to watch the films in order, not just for narrative flow, but because they degrade in quality uniformly from number one to number six. You could go from one straight to seven though - seven being a kind of musing on the whole phenomena of the franchise, how krueger 'penetrated' popular culture, and on the role of the fairy tale in society.
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I'd say just watch the first and last one. The first one is just great, and the last one is clever and great. The middle ones are just... they're sort of worth watching if you stumble over them on the telly, but that's about it.
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The first two are alright. The seventh one is pretty good. The rest are absolute bilge. Dream Warriors is ridiculous nonsense.
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quote:Originally posted by Kanye West: don't watch the tv series though.
Fuck me. I've just seen on IMDB that it had 39 episodes. Holy shit. I always assumed they did, like, six and then it ended. That's like nearly as many episodes as The Wire. Did it have the same level of dense plotting and characterisation?
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I've watched probably around ten hours of the tv show, and it's weak. Everything is shot with a dreary red hue, nobody can act, and nothing interesting ever happens. Most of the time it's nothing to do with nightmare on elm street, but the little morality tales will be introduced by kreuger, and he'll usually come out with a dreadful pun when it finishes, usually of the "Now that's what I call blah blah" variety, as peddled by his punning contemporary, James Bond. If there is a death taking places in flames then it'll be a reference to something being hot ie 'a hot ticket', 'burning ambition', 'being fired' etc. That kind of thing. If you like that, you might enjoy Freddy's Nightmares.
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