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Waynster

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Just when every ray of hope was gone
I should have known that you would come along
I can't believe I ever doubted you
My old friend the blues


Thank you Mr Steve Earle - once again you sang how I feel

Regular posters may remember me - I know I have been off of late my absence is all down to me throwing every sinew of my body into my job. The one that was "the"job - it had everything - variety, beautiful women, and finally after 23 years of searching what I thought was the one. Yet this morning at 11:34 approximately I was given my marching orders. Not for screwing up, but for the fact they had hired someone with the wrong skill set. Their mistake, not mine (for a change).

I'm sitting here trying to fathom out why I have to pay for this? Why I gave 6 months of my life to this company thinking I had finally found what I was looking for in a career, and then this morning I get the news. My life is royally fucked - tomorrow is another day sure, but I don't know where I am supposed to be living it. I'm nearly 40 and I have no clue where I am supposed to be come 1st june.

Do you ever feel in life like there is actually a point where you have completely failed? If you haven't ask me, because that is where I am now.

I've just failed life. How much further wrong can I go?

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That sucks. What happened? Presumably you were enjoying the job and thought you were doing well... how come they decided you had the wrong skill set? Do you have a decent redundancy package? Is there no way they could give you a different job in the same company?
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Waynster

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Well I was hired as a technician in my specialist field but was immediately thrpwn onto something I didn't know, and neither did anyone else - I tried to make it my own but obviously they saw me at the interview as someone who could sort out the mess -the mess was too big and when it came it to all the mistakes, they used me as the scapegoat. My boss can go now to the board and say they have got rid of a "problem" which will go a long way to resolving the issue, but in 2 months he will have to make another sacrifice just to appease them - its his head he is trying to save.


Its horrible - he said in the meeting and used the quote that I was the "weakest link" in the department, but the thing is I wasn't by a country mile - other people freeloaded the job but were stuck there as they had passed their probation months ago - they would turn up when they felt like it and he had no control or authority to punish them. Me, I was the new boy, the magical guy he expected to make up for all his shortcomngs, and becasue I couldn't do that I have to carry the can for it. I bet he will sleep well in his bed tonight - me - if things dopn't sort themselves out will be looking for a bridge to sleep under

I have never felt this broken for something I didn't do

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Thorn Davis

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I'm really sorry to hear that, Wayne.
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Thorn Davis

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quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
Do you ever feel in life like there is actually a point where you have completely failed?

If this is actually a genuine question I feel roughly there right now, like I've just fucked things, missed opportunities, pissed away the chances I've been given and have left things just too late to develop in meaningful ways. So I know what you mean.

I wish we could go for a beer right now, I thought when I read your post. That would be so awesome. Just sit and drink and weep.

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Thorn Davis

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Occasionally shake our heads and say "Fucking hell".

[ 25.04.2008, 11:02: Message edited by: Thorn Davis ]

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Darryn.R
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Ouch. Ouch Indeed - Sorry to hear that mate, you seemed happy there and thought that was going to work out.
Still, while I try and find a positive note here if you get your arse down the WW office you should be up for a handsome sized unemployment cheque from the Dutch government, you have a flat mate now so you're not running the house alone and there is still quite a lot of work out there including this at your old employer:

http://vacature.monsterboard.nl/GetJob.aspx?JobID=69998665&JobTitle=Business+Analist+bij+Kawasaki+Motors+Europe+N.V.&q=as400+english&cy=nl&vw=d&AVSDM=2008-04-08+04%3a43%3a00&pg=1&s eq=1

Plus, next week once I've caught up with myself (flew in from Omaha this morning, no sleep on the plane) I can come over for a Guitar Hero jam or you can come over here and play ROCK BAND (Did you know the new Guitar has extra buttons to play the lead breaks on) if you fancy being a drummer for a bit instead (or bass player).

Chin up, Dunkirk spirit and all that and I'll give you a call during the weekend when my head feels less like mush.

[Frown]

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Abby
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That is fucking rubbish. But you will sort it out - new jobs have been found before and all that. [Frown]
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Jimmy Big Nuts
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don't call time yet, waynster.
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Zygote
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Gutted to about this Waynster. Your situation's one that I've experienced once too many times over the past decade or so and I do understand how hopeless the situation feels. The initial impact is always devastating, but once the self-blame/hate period starts to fade, positive situations do present themselves and provided you remain completely focused on the future and remember the positive attributes that you already possess, things will get better.

Not much help, I know, but based on what's happened to me so far in 'life', that's probably the best I can offer in terms of an honest perspective.

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It sounds trite to say "their loss", but- really, their loss. Sorry for the change, but if the position didn't add up to be as advertised then it really wasn't anything to lament about, have to think it's just an obstacle on the way to something better. For what it's worth, I'm in a job that's not shaping up to be what it was represented during the hiring process- though I'm somewhat stuck as the new baby is due in mere weeks and it really wouldn't be the best moment to be making a job transition. So I'm gritting my teeth and dealing for the time being. Assuming being scapegoated was as unpleasant as it sounds, there's perhaps some silver lining in the fact that it's a problem you don't have to deal with any more.

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Sorry to hear about your job woes, Waynster.

I've been made redundant twice in my life and although neither occasion was much fun at the time, things have all worked out for the best - I can post up my blurb about my career so far as a contractor again if you like?

If you're ever in Bristol and need a beer/hug, look me up. I give good hug, what with the giant mamms and all.

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That's really shit news Waynster. Here's hoping you find something that's a better match for your skills, in a company that actually knows what it's doing.
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Sorry to hear that Waynster.

Wasn't there another company wanting you a little while back? Can you try talking to them again?

Hope things start to look up soon. x

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Waynster

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Thank you all for the support, especially Hippychicks which looks very appealing at the moment.

I'm kind of between heartbroken and angry now - anyone know of a network program that can replace all the desktops wqallpaper? I was thinking as a parting gift of leaving this for everyone:

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(Either that or stealing a stupid amount of moeny and buggaring off to paraguay)

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God! I'm sorry for this Wayne. Many moons ago it happened to me and I was 'let go' at the end of a trial period for, they claimed, incompetency. It felt shit. Then they asked me to stay on on a temporary contract when they couldn't find a replacement. Stupid tossers. It was with great satisfaction that I found out some months later the company went down the pan. Not because I was such a great loss as it happens, but because they had been scapegoating people for a long, long time and eventually the shit has to hit the fan for real. Sounds as if this might happen to your boss; eventually he'll run out of scapegoats and then it'll be him carrying the can. I sincerely hope you found out when that happens so you can have the last laugh.

Good luck.

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Gods. I was recently reading an article called 'I gave you a chisel, why aren't you Michaelangelo?' which, in a nutshell describes how panicking managers provide people with tools or this case, projects that don't help fix the problem. Later they blame the person for not having the ability to do their job whilst giving them shit tools or putting them on an ailing project. Sounds like they did the latter, the fuckfaces.

What you might be feeling right now is because the job you thought would be stable has been pulled out like a rug from under your legs and there's nothing like having some prick control those elements in your life. A lot of how you're feeling can come down to how you view this. If you were aware they'd try to fire you before the event and left on your own accord then perhaps you wouldn't get that awful sensation you get when some shyster fucking management have one hand on the wheel of the car you're driving. What I'm saying is: You're a good fucking bloke mate. Forthright and honest. There's still much needed desire for a chap like you. We need the numbers to kick against the shit. If you were one of those assholes in the world that people have to let off steam over a beer, then maybe, just maybe you might have 'failed' at this thing we call life. I know I'm not the only one proud to call you my mate and a fucking top geezer.

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Waynster

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Really people, thank you all. The words of support have really moved me, and you have all made me realise I will get over this episode and I will not let these people beat me. Sure I loved that job, but there will be others, and as I have found out since some people there that did appreciate my efforts are not happy about this either.

The chisel and Michealangelo quote from Mikee sums it up perfectly - A bad workman blames his tools, but a bad manager blames whoever he can. It will come up and catch up with him one day, but by then I know I will be sitting pretty in a job where I am appreciated, and I hope soon.

Thank you all for restoring my faith in life - I realise now I haven't failed at all - the bank failed me, but I will move on. And hell its summertime - a few weeks off will be most welcome!

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Fact is dude if you don't have the right 'skillset' for that job then they hired the wrong person. That's the whole point of an application process, to find out which applicants are right for the job and which aren't. Assuming you didn't lie through your teeth to get the job then the responsibility lies with them, in which case there are two scenarios here:

Either they failed to ask the right questions at the interview, in which case they're stupid, or they deliberately hired someone who wouldn't be able to do the things they ask you to do. In which case they're a bunch of douches.

So either way, your employers were either retards or douches. Doesn't it feel good to be free from working for people like that?

Fact is, you're one of the soundest people I've ever met. If they've jerked you about, they've lost out on having one of the rarest things an amployer can hope for - a really genuine employee who is dependable and trustworthy and in it for more than simply climbing up some kind of career ladder. So fuck 'em, they're the ones who are losing out here, not you.

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quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:


Do you ever feel in life like there is actually a point where you have completely failed?

Failing is sort of the point of life, isn't it? Ricocheting from disaster to disaster. Brushing yourself off, applying bandages, stopping for a quick pint, deep breath, heading back out for another beating...

Besides, it's only work. Fuck work.

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What I mean is, 'everything will be okay'.

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quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
a few weeks off will be most welcome!

If you fancy spending some of that severance pay on a flight to Blighty you could always some and get ridiculously drunk with me for a long weekend or something? Change of scenery and all that..
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Waynster

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Well I guess I saw it coming......

Just over 3 months this time - even passed my probation, getting trained up as an Oracle DBA. I'm on the second course this week when my colleague phones me - it seems my new employers are now subject to "Emergency Protocol" from the Dutch Central Bank as last night they went into Liquidity Shortage. In essence, the DNB just walked in, have taken control and want their assets at any cost. It's 50/50 according to my boss, but basically it looks like the bank is going under - a bit of reading up and it seems they have had their wrists slapped severly before for dubious dealing, but now with and out of position situation with the central bank all payments have been halted and no further business can proceed without the say so of the DNB.

In other words, another one bites the dust, and takes me with it. FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK.

For some reason though, I'm not sad, even though I loved this job as well. I guess I am just getting used to the knock backs, but with the positivity to get straight on out there and start looking for something else - no point in licking wounds or waiting to see what will happen - I'm off. Got my priorities for next year see, and that's what I need to think about foremost - my future happiness, and no poxy job is going to bowl me for six again.

Now, anyone know where they might need an Oracle DBA??

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Jeez, man. Sorry to hear that. That is absolutely rotten luck.
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waynster is a harsh lesson against the pitfalls of making an effort and having a dream.
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Everything will be okay.
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[ 07.10.2008, 10:03: Message edited by: Black Mask ]

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Jimmy Big Nuts
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this morning I was thinking how the economy is going to shit and everybody is losing their jobs, and I came to the conclusion that most Hollywood actors are going to be alright because they're loaded. I imagined Colin Farrell buying a warehouse full of grain just in case, you know, the food market collapses. Then I was chatting to him, trying to be his friend so I could secure grain for me and Louise.

Anyway, then I got off the train at Kings Cross, and I've already mentioned what happened next.

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I watched In Bruges the other day, that's probably why I was thinking of Farrell.
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hope that helps, Waynster.
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In Bruges is alright though. I laughed once or twice.
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Anyway.
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Waynster

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It's gone public knowledge over here now that the bank is under the control of receivers. I guess that means I am indeed looking for a new job.

Still at least I wont have to work with that **** of an opposite number of mine - every cloud and all that.

Right I think I am off to the pub [Embarrassed] )

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quote:
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In Bruges is alright though. I laughed once or twice.

My dyslexic stoner friend was telling me about this film, which he pronounced as In Brogues. Other classics have included The Mancunian Candidate and Black Man - The Dark Knight. I'm not sure if it's his dyslexia or his incredible appetite for weed that causes these mistakes.
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your friend sounds like an idiot.
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Indeed, but that might not be his fault.
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