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Posted by Lee Holloway (Member # 877) on :
 
Gather round, girls and boys. I need advice. Here's the thing, right. Go out with this guy, really into him, we're going out but he won't admit he's my boyfriend for aaaages. Finally he does (but doesn't bother changing Myspace profile from 'single' to 'in a relationship' or anything). I go through rough time, have horrible experience, he dumps me at apex of said horrible experience and basically breaks my formerly bulletproof heart.

Within a month he meets new person on MySpace, from foreign country. She stays with him for one week, he changes profile to 'in a relationship'. Three weeks later, she leaves her country and now she's his live-in girlfriend.

I mean. Seven months of constant togetherness, holidays together, all the rest, and he barely called me his girlfriend. One week of hanging
out, and they're living together. As you can imagine, this makes me feel like a worthless pile of shit.

Now he is asking me to help him set up a wireless network. I don't want to be a **** , but I also don't want to give advice so that he and his live-in girlfriend can happily surf away. I'm not particularly interested in being friends with this person because I'm basically, and unfortunately, completely still in love with him, but I have to be civil when I see him because we move in similar circles and so on and so forth.

Also of course when I do see him, the stupid retarded love that lives inside me wants nothing more than to speak to him, look at him, be with him – until such time as the stupid retarded love remembers that he treated that love like shit and dumped it and crushed it and shat on it and told it to fuck off. And then the love feels confused, and then I feel sad and… nah. A big 'no' on the being friends front.

But the wireless network. It's only a little thing but, forum, I put it to you:

Person who treated me like shit is now asking for my help.

Two options:

What would you do?


[ 11.04.2006, 04:51: Message edited by: Lee Holloway ]
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
I'd help him out. It will make you feel magnanimous and better than him.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Do not help this person. You are smearing an extra coating of cream onto their cake, when it should be shit.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Then forget all about him. I'm a firm believer in moving on when you're in love with a stupid fucker.
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
Tell this person your sister (best friend / father / significant other) set up the wi-fi and you don't know how to do it.
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
I'd say help if it'll make you feel better, if it won't make you feel better then fuck them, fuck them right in the ear.

OR, say you’ll help them and then half way through throw a huge fucking tantrum in front of the pair of them demanding to know why, why, why, why, why ?
Then pull her hair, scratch his face, seriously fuck up their internet connectivity, steal something of his you've always wanted and do a shit on their bed.

Now that's how to burn your bridges !

[ 30.03.2006, 08:20: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Beaten to it.

[ 30.03.2006, 08:20: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
I'd go to his place, help him out, then slowly and brutally kill him.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
The mistake is calling the thread 'a moral dilemma' as simply saying 'up yor shittbox' would be acceptable. You are not a one lady fucking/wi-fi installing machine that runs on fresh air.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Or are you?
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Tell them that you have a mate who can set it up and then get me to do it. Four hours later he will need to buy a completely new system.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Set up the wireless network for him, but don’t bother with any security. Then go and park near his house in the middle of the night and download large amounts of kiddie porn, like really nasty stuff, using the wireless connection.

Then you can get immense satisfaction from seeing him having his life destroyed by allegations of paedophilia. You could even connect to one of his PCs remotely so the files end up on his hard drive any everything. See what this chick thinks of him when he’s locked in the slammer for being a paedo, and trying desperately not to drop the soap.

That’s what I’d do anyway.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
I'd go to his place, help him out, then slowly and brutally kill him.

For what? For not updating his myspace profile?
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Bearded=touchy.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
For what? For not updating his myspace profile?

For dumping her. And the myspace thing too.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Also, Ralph is from the states. Any decent lawyer should be able to get him off using the myspace defence.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jonesy999:
Bearded=touchy.

I'm just as touchy bearded or not. I've been giving serious consideration to shaving it off. I hate being clean-shaven, so any thoughts on what style of hair I could leave on my face? And before anyone suggests it, I refuse to go the 70's-style porn movie guy moustache. (i.e. the Freddie Mercury look)
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Did you change your myspace page?
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jonesy999:
Also, Ralph is from the states. Any decent lawyer should be able to get him off using the myspace defence.

Especially since I have no prior convictions. [Smile]
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Set up the wireless network for him, but don’t bother with any security. Then go and park near his house in the middle of the night and download large amounts of kiddie porn, like really nasty stuff, using the wireless connection.

Then you can get immense satisfaction from seeing him having his life destroyed by allegations of paedophilia. You could even connect to one of his PCs remotely so the files end up on his hard drive any everything. See what this chick thinks of him when he’s locked in the slammer for being a paedo, and trying desperately not to drop the soap.

That’s what I’d do anyway.

The most worrying thing about that whole piece Ringo is that you seem to know where to find
quote:
large amounts of kiddie porn, like really nasty stuff
Sweet revenge though, we should totally do a revenge fantasy thread one day.

[ 30.03.2006, 08:37: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
 
Posted by Lee Holloway (Member # 877) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn Davis:
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
I'd go to his place, help him out, then slowly and brutally kill him.

For what? For not updating his myspace profile?
Well, at the end of the day, people are entitled to treat other people like shit, and then dump them if they're not into them. It happens. Shit happens. I just wondered whether or not to help him but perhaps pretending ignorance is the best way forward, like Ubertrick says. I can play the part of the eye-fluttering silly little 'how do you switch this on' bimbo girl that all his previous girlfriends have been. He told me while we were going out that I kicked more arse than any of his previous girlfriends. If I'd kicked less arse and known a little less about computers, maybe he'd have liked me more. Yes! Win him back through pretend incompetence! A winner every time.

quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
Did you change your myspace page?

No way! The boy has to do that shit first.

[ 30.03.2006, 08:41: Message edited by: Lee Holloway ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
any thoughts on what style of hair I could leave on my face?

 -

It'd be ironic because your country kicked his nazi ass, and all...
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lee Holloway:
people are entitled to treat other people like shit

Do you honestly believe this? That's really sad.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Thorn's right, though. This guy hasn't done a lot wrong, other than commit to someone else in a way he wasn't prepared to do to you.

Framing him or killing him might be a bit extreme under the circumstances.

ETA: Obviously I don't know the circumstances so I don't really have any idea what I'm talking about.

Maybe you should kill him.

[ 30.03.2006, 08:41: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
any thoughts on what style of hair I could leave on my face?

 -

It'd be ironic because your country kicked his nazi ass, and all...

lol. I actually did that style once, just for a day. And I didn't go out in public or anything. My mom wasn't too proud that day.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Seriously though, if he’s been stringing you along for ages, refusing to call you his girlfriend, then by the sounds of it you were nothing more than a casual shag for him, and the moment you made him actually call you his girlfriend, he buggers off with someone else. I’d guess from this that he never really liked you that much anyway, certainly nowhere near as much as you liked him. If you’re going to retain any shred of dignity, you should totally cut him loose, especially if you’ve got no intention of keeping him as a friend. The guy’s obviously got some cheek, and clearly isn’t much of a man if he has to crawl to the girl he’s been shitting on for 8 months just to set up something as rudimentary as a wireless network. Either he’s a complete waste of space, or he’s getting off on the idea of making you do things for him even after he’s treated you like crap.

I don’t see why you’re even having to ask this question, I mean do you like being shat on or something? Have a little self respect.
 
Posted by Abby (Member # 582) on :
 
I would vaguely agree to it in a non commital way then always be busy or unavailable - they wont get anyone else to do it while waiting for you, so you can make them go aaaaages without any internet! Punishment indeed.
 
Posted by Lee Holloway (Member # 877) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Seriously though, if he’s been stringing you along for ages, refusing to call you his girlfriend, then by the sounds of it you were nothing more than a casual shag for him, and the moment you made him actually call you his girlfriend, he buggers off with someone else. I’d guess from this that he never really liked you that much anyway, certainly nowhere near as much as you liked him. If you’re going to retain any shred of dignity, you should totally cut him loose, especially if you’ve got no intention of keeping him as a friend. The guy’s obviously got some cheek, and clearly isn’t much of a man if he has to crawl to the girl he’s been shitting on for 8 months just to set up something as rudimentary as a wireless network. Either he’s a complete waste of space, or he’s getting off on the idea of making you do things for him even after he’s treated you like crap.

Haha applause. Yeah exactly. No, I don't like being treated like shit and I don't normally act like this. I just fell in love, and apparently, love turns you (me) into a fucking victim. Love makes me sick.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
I've worked it out - it's snorton, right?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
Incidentally, now you're single...
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
quote:
Benway
I've worked it out - it's snorton, right?


Black Mask, surely.

[ 30.03.2006, 08:45: Message edited by: jonesy999 ]
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
pit of spiteowl?
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lee Holloway:
quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
Did you change your myspace page?

No way! The boy has to do that shit first.
*wheeze* please say it was a joke, please.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Aaaaah, Lee Holloway is Ganesh.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
This is in Life, from Abby (Coincidence? Or timely?)

quote:
I got a flyer for a Cristian cult of some kind recently that I have been carrying about so I can show people! Here are some of the highlights...

(Front cover)
If it happens ONCE, it's just life.
TWICE, maybe you're just unlucky.
But
THREE TIMES,
you'd better get help.

Then there is a story about a girl who kept getting engaged and then the relationship failed. She went to the UCKG Helpcentre, and 18 months later she was married to a wonderful man!

The problem with many people is that they are too quick to dismiss negative events in their life as coincidence!

Coincidence or something more sinister?
The UCKG Helpcentre is a Christian ministry specialising in helping people break free from curses, bad luck and all spiritual negativity. They offer strong prayers for deliverance for everyone who feels bound by some kind of evil.

Then there a handy tick list of things which you can use to check if you are cursed. Wacky crazy evil shit like 'My life is a series of ups and downs', 'At times I feel like I am losing control of my life'.

Their logo is a red heart with what I think is a dove in flight in it, below it says UCKG Better get help.


 
Posted by Lee Holloway (Member # 877) on :
 
Well duh, if this boy can barely bear to call himself my boyfriend, how is changing my status on myspace to 'in a relationship' while his still says 'single' going to make me look anything other than a massive gimp / desperate stalker? That's hardly the behaviour likely to encourage him to give a shit now, is it.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Oh Ganesh [Frown]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
Hey Ganesh,

Did Roy ever get in over there? If so, tell him ralph says 'hey'. [Frown]
 
Posted by Sidney (Member # 399) on :
 
I think the best response would be to completely and utterly move on. The relationship is obviously in the past and that is where it should stay. You should not allow your past to determine your future. You feel that this boy gone done you wrong - will trying to fuck him over now really achieve anything? It's not going to bring you two back together. Won't it just feed the aching, all-consuming bitterness inside you? Do you want to fulfill the Psychotic Ex stereotype and give him something to laugh about with his new partner (and probably all of his mates too)?

Respond to his request with "I'm sorry but I really don't think I've got the time to help you out with that. I'm so busy at the moment. You'll have to ask someone else" whilst all the while repeating this mantra to yourself;

I have Dignity. I am Gracious. I am above all this.


Well that's what I'd do, anyway.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lee Holloway:
That's hardly the behaviour likely to encourage him to give a shit now, is it.

I'm sorry to say this when you've been so massively honest but having to ask someone what your relationship is after a couple months is usually a sign they don't give too much of a shit. I know.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lee Holloway:
Haha applause. Yeah exactly. No, I don't like being treated like shit and I don't normally act like this. I just fell in love, and apparently, love turns you (me) into a fucking victim. Love makes me sick.

Love may have made you a victim, but it doesn’t mean you have to resign yourself to that position forevermore. You’ve got a choice now. You can make the decision to cut your losses and get on with your life, or you can come to his beckon call and give him the satisfaction of knowing that, for all he’s done to you, you’ll still do anything he says.

It’s a lesson I learnt a long time ago, and a hard one at that. But basically you can’t win someone’s heart with IT support.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Lolol
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
I'm sorry to say this when you've been so massively honest but having to ask someone what your relationship is after a couple months is usually a sign they don't give too much of a shit. I know.

Gnh, what I mean is: don't get fooled again mmmmkay?
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
Hey Ganesh,

Did Roy ever get in over there? If so, tell him ralph says 'hey'. [Frown]

Roy is Kovacs.

The whole debacle is some sort of online version of Fight Club.
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
you can’t win someone’s heart with IT support.

Actually, you totally could: IT support, decorating skills, driving ability, ability to fix things, calm in the face of crisis, passionate about their career, financial stability, desire to have children. All these skills are on my list of qualities I would like a partner to have.

But IT support is currently top of the list ever since my sister made my hard drive die the other week with her porno related virus she infected it with. [Frown]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
But basically you can’t win someone’s heart with IT support.

It works for Bamba.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
rofl!
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
Why the fuck would I look at porn on your computer when I've got a perfectly good computer of my own to look at porn on? Anyway, porn is totally 2004.
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
You said it broke when you were looking at a "pictures website that you use" and you typed the URL in wrongly...
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
it might be just broken you know. Remember when you thought my computer had a virus, lisa? Turned out to be faulty memory.

[ 30.03.2006, 09:18: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
That's why she needs a man with IT support you fool! [Mad]
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
Sxc.hu - the leading stock photography website.

I'm a professional, you know. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by London:
I'm a professional, you know. [Roll Eyes]

A professional what?
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Benway:
it might be just broken you know. Remember when you thought my computer had a virus, lisa? Turned out to be faulty memory.

I don't remember that, no, sorry steve. But it could have been a virus, you know.

[ 30.03.2006, 09:26: Message edited by: Uber Trick ]
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
A professional web editor / content producer / copywriter / freelance journalist.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by London:
A professional web editor / content producer / copywriter / freelance journalist.

Oh. I had no idea.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by London:
Sxc.hu - the leading stock photography website.

I'm a professional, you know. [Roll Eyes]

er I thought www.istockphoto.com was the leading royalty free website
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
Not that professional then. [Frown]
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
oh hold on your one's got free images on it
 
Posted by herbs (Member # 101) on :
 
Fuck 'im. Right in the ass. If he thinks he can take advantage of your devotion by getting you to do free stuff for him while he throws together a little light supper for two in the kitchen, fuck him. Right in the ass.
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
Yeah, I meant to say 'leading free stock photography website'. We don't have much of a budget for images. But then, isn't this the most boring conversation in the world? Should we go back to talking about myspace and heartbreak?
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
I doubt anyone would be impressed by my IT skillz if they saw the state of my PC at the moment. It's a miracle it works at all.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Stop ruining Lee's thread with your talk of porn and journalism.
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
Yeah London!
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
Don't do it. Never give IT support to *****. Give it grudgingly to friends and only with enthusiasm to people with ready cash.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Sorry London I was trying to be clever.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
Ready cash they're prepared to give you for the IT support, obviously. Not just ready cash in general.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Anyhow. I think sidney answered it best. End of.
 
Posted by dance margarita (Member # 848) on :
 
well lee i think you should do it. and then when the wireless network is installed you should hand him an indelible magic marker and ask him if he wants to write 'i am a total idiot' on your forehead.
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by not...:
Anyhow. I think sidney answered it best. End of.

Ringo did pretty good as well, though.
 
Posted by sabian (Member # 6) on :
 
I haven't read the whole lot as I just got in, but I did read the OP and thought I could offer some advice...

Go over, install the wireless AND a keystroke capture program (email me if you need one! [Wink] )... Then keep checking the 'reports' in your email until you get his (or hers, even better) credit card / bank details then go on a shopping spree.

If you really up for it, and have the techy know how, slap on some sort of VNC so you can actually control the pc remotely too, or if EastEnders is boring, you can just watch his computer in real time!

Don't mention it
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Louche:
Ringo did pretty good as well, though.

He had to stop. Sometimes the boy is so accurate it becomes dangerous.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uber Trick:
Actually, you totally could: IT support, decorating skills, driving ability, ability to fix things, calm in the face of crisis, passionate about their career, financial stability, desire to have children. All these skills are on my list of qualities I would like a partner to have.

But IT support is currently top of the list ever since my sister made my hard drive die the other week with her porno related virus she infected it with. [Frown]

Well, I mean, here’s the thing. That’s a pretty long list of requirements. But what strikes me is that these are, like, all things that this person can do for you. I mention this because it reminds me a little of what Lee is talking about – basically a situation whereby, with no consideration given to emotional fulfilment, another person is judged solely on their usefulness rather than how special they may be as a person.

I think people would be a lot happier in relationships if they were content simply to be with someone who made them feel special, and reciprocated their affections, rather than expect them to be able to do certain things for you whenever you ask them. I know life’s never perfect, and maybe it’s a slightly naïve view on my part, but I don’t understand why people could happily discount a person as a partner simply because they didn’t have a specific interest, or because they can’t do certain things.

Know what I mean?
 
Posted by Louche (Member # 450) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
He had to stop. Sometimes the boy is so accurate it becomes dangerous.

He seems to talk a lot of sense at the moment. His contribution to Roygate was an exceptional example of well balanced thoughtful posting. Though this is not to dismiss the quality of Sidney's advice, which was also excellent. As opposed to the quality of mine, which was rubbish.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
I think people would be a lot happier in relationships if they were content simply to be with someone who made them feel special, and reciprocated their affections, rather than expect them to be able to do certain things for you whenever you ask them.

So how are you and Kira getting along, Ringo? [Wink]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Ringo - filling Ben's void since 2005.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
If you cut me, do I not bleed?
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I feel really bad, because someone posted a link up 'as a jolly jape' on a bulletin board. I suppose the joke is 'hey look, we're so wacky we are selling our department online

So I posted:

quote:
I quite fancy the one of the far left. She's not in focus but I reckon she'd be really dirty in bed. She all sweetness and light, but I reckon once she's under the covers she'd be noshing you off and putting her finger in your bumhole and you'd have to pretend you were too shocked to make her stop or something. Or, OR she'd let you do it on the desk at work after 5pm and keep her lil furry boots on. The filthy minx.
But the original post dissapeared so I said:

quote:
What are you hiding then [poster name removed]? I see that person also bought this This cute hat. It might not be a girl it might be a brokeback cowboy. Yeehaa!

A little bit more looking and we get this matching number, the plot thickens.

A bride to be badge

Finally, what else can I find? UH OH.

So I tacked on the condoms to highlight the henparty part, but the reply:

quote:
One of the girls in the pic doesn't like the comments you made Mikee and asked I remove it
Girls are so sensitive.
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
Well, I mean, here’s the thing. That’s a pretty long list of requirements. But what strikes me is that these are, like, all things that this person can do for you. I mention this because it reminds me a little of what Lee is talking about – basically a situation whereby, with no consideration given to emotional fulfilment, another person is judged solely on their usefulness rather than how special they may be as a person.

I think people would be a lot happier in relationships if they were content simply to be with someone who made them feel special, and reciprocated their affections, rather than expect them to be able to do certain things for you whenever you ask them. I know life’s never perfect, and maybe it’s a slightly naïve view on my part, but I don’t understand why people could happily discount a person as a partner simply because they didn’t have a specific interest, or because they can’t do certain things.

Know what I mean?

Yes Ringo I do. And I've tried it but basically it doesn't work so this is the new approach for Spring 2006. I've given too much in relationships in the past, now I want some things back. I just got fucked over by someone who I shared "affections" and just liked "being together" so I figured, if you're going to get fucked over either way eventually, why not get fucked over with benefits? Perfectly logical.

[ 30.03.2006, 10:12: Message edited by: Uber Trick ]
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
maybe it can work if it's the right person?
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
I don't want to talk about love.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
I see. Sorry.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
Am I the only one who doesn't understand what Mikee is talking about. I feel a bit thick.
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uber Trick:
Yes Ringo I do. And I've tried it but basically it doesn't work so this is the new approach for Spring 2006. I've given too much in relationships in the past, now I want some things back. I just got fucked over by someone who I shared "affections" and just liked "being together" so I figured, if you're going to get fucked over either way eventually, why not get fucked over with benefits? Perfectly logical.

It is logical. Kinda. Although it could be argued that perhaps it’s better not to be in a relationship at all, than be in one which is based simply on what another person can do for you. Friends can do all those things too (ok maybe not the kids bit) with the added bonus that you’re not likely to get hurt, or to hurt anyone. But the problem with taking a defensive attitude to relationships like that is that there inevitably comes the time when the decorating is done, the computers are all working, there’s nowhere you want to drive to, and you sit there and suddenly realise that you’ve not really got anything in common. And where do you go from there?

I’m far happier being single to be honest. At least it doesn’t come with that nagging doubt that the person you’re with doesn’t really give a crap about you and is only with you because you’re able to fix the sink.

It’s not a personal criticism as such, I’m just thinking out loud. I just think that this is the cause of situations like Lee’s, where one party enters into a relationship because of love, and the other because of convenience.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jonesy999:
Am I the only one who doesn't understand what Mikee is talking about. I feel a bit thick.

I'm a little unsure myself, but I think the gist was someone posted their 'amusing' link and then removed it because I said something filthy about one of the girls and ruined their harmless yet dull fun.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
On a different bulletin board?
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ringo:
And where do you go from there?

stick on the TV.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
It does say 'on a bulletin board' I thought we were allowed to use others. [Frown]
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
Bad Mikee! [Mad]

Yes Ringo, I would also rather be single than be in a relationship that doesn't work and is based solely on one person's convenience too.

I don't really have a list, although if I did it would probably read something like that...
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
I'm going to stop talking now.
 
Posted by jonesy999 (Member # 5) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by New Way Of Decay:
It does say 'on a bulletin board' I thought we were allowed to use others. [Frown]

Ignore me, I'm feeling a bit dense. [Smile]
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
I don't understand the bulletin board ref but I have enjoyed conjuring a fantasy about the ebay seller by going through her item history.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
TMO's been brilliant today. I hope it's been as interesting, sadfacing and lolsome as I found it for everyone else. I'm almost glad I had to leave the office today after and argument with the team starting with 'so which **** has been using my log in then if everyone is going to play dumb' and run into my boss in Ravenscourt Park to tell her about it. I mean, I may not have a job come Monday, but the sun is shining and I have an interview tomorrow and I've applied for four permanent jobs, I have a gig coming up. I mean, things have been worse.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
good luck in the interview. Don't wear a bow tie.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by not...:
I don't understand the bulletin board ref but I have enjoyed conjuring a fantasy about the ebay seller by going through her item history.

Argh! That's the joke isn't it. I think it's a random lame joke on ebay and the poster has posted it from that very office, so my comments about fingers in assholes and then stringing out items from the sellers history must of rattled their little twee office.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Well, I'm still a bit lost but don't worry.

Going through peoples item history on ebay is the virtual equivalent of rummaging through their drawers.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
yeh it's weird. I feel like I've got a pretty good idea of what dizzy blonde rose is into, and therefore, could make broad character assumptions. Not that they would neccesarily be accurate, but you can at least narrow it down from having no idea. I could get quite addicted to checking out people's auctions. I did it to vikram for ages.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
just calling yourself 'dizzy blonde rose' is probably enough of a giveaway. Bubbly personality masks hidden inferiority complex. Likely to cry when drunk.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Size 14. Dress style boho chic. Romantic. Over 30. Married.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
32" leg
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Partner not satisfying her in the bedroom dept.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
Michael jackson fan *droop*
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
I wouldn't say married, but recently engaged.

Or is that a kind of re-affirmation? You know, pretending to propose even though you're already married.

[ 30.03.2006, 11:18: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by not...:
Partner not satisfying her in the bedroom dept.

that's probably part of the hen night she's recently organised.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
A bit slutty *boing*
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Size 7 feet, robs cowboys at weekends.
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
You guys are wierd.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by not...:
Size 14. Dress style boho chic. Romantic. Over 30. Married.

definitely a Sienna fan, so probably a Heat reader too.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
not, I've been listening to your last.fm, and I have to say. A few suprises.

[ 30.03.2006, 11:23: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
You think we're weird? This girl is marrying herself

She bought the box and everything.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
do you think she popped the question on valentines day, and is now organising her own hen do?
 
Posted by Sidney (Member # 399) on :
 
All this talk of hen nights and engagements isn't going to help poor Lee Holloway, is it?!
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
I think Lee Holloway will cope.
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
Maybe Lee could kit herself out with the items on this list. This girl's getting married and all it took was some shoddy clothes labelled loosely as boho on ebay.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
I bet Dave Gorman is already working out a 6 part radio series based on looking at past purchases on ebay.
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
Maybe this ebay girl is Lee Holloway! Lee Holloway is pretending that she's getting married to the myspaceslut! She's bought the ring, the boots to wear on her hen night... Yes, it's all slipping in to place. Now all she has to do is get dressed up in her Size 14 boho chic clothes, go round to the myspacesluts house when the new gf isn't there, install the wi-fi and seduce the scoundral back! The next night is the hen night, the following day they're getting married at Swindon registry office. All she's got to do is keep him handcuffed long enough from the point of installing the wi-fi until after the wedding! Ha! That will teach him not to put 'In a Relationship' on his profile. I hope he remembers to change it to 'Married'!
 
Posted by Ringo (Member # 47) on :
 
What kind of a name is 'Lee' for a girl anyway?
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
It's what my family call me. Also, the girl in Secretary was called Lee. Although that might have been Leigh, I suppose.
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
I'm not Lee Holloway though. In case you were wondering.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Benway:
not, I've been listening to your last.fm, and I have to say. A few suprises.

Well I am basically what would happen If your lastfm and londons lastfm got together and got jiggy with it to some kings of convenience playing in the background.
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
My last.fm wouldn't touch Benway's last.fm with Tav's.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
what's wrong with my last.fm?
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
I'll give you a couple of minutes. If you got nothing, then you're accepting that my last.fm is decent.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
I thought not.
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
That is weak, blud.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
yeah. [Frown]
 
Posted by Lee Holloway (Member # 877) on :
 
An amusing postscript to the story: in one of our brief recent email exchanges, I confessed to the ex how I'd lost all the music off my iPod when it crashed. He kindly said I could come round to his house to get approx 60G of music off his computer (we've got the same taste). Which is, of course, a sweet offer - but let's think it through, shall we? His computer's in his bedroom - the bedroom he moved his new g/f into a few weeks after we broke up. Like, thanks, but no thanks, m8. You know, I'm not really looking forward to stumbling over her stuff, getting her crumpled knickers wrapped around my feet, seeing tissues with her lipstick prints on by the mirror, her bras drying on the radiator. Cheers m0. He must be the least empathetic person I've ever met, which is pretty fucking ironic, since he considers himself a 'neo-buddhist.' (I know. **** ).

Friendship with an ex. Is it ever really possible?


[ 11.04.2006, 04:53: Message edited by: Lee Holloway ]
 
Posted by ben (Member # 13) on :
 
More to the point, is it desirable? Fuck emailing this knobhead - giving him space in your head while he's doing the do with some chick else is not going to help you 'move on'.
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lee Holloway:


Friendship with an ex. Is it ever really possible?

I've been great friends with VP in the - what? - ten years since we started 'going out'. It helps that she has a heart of stone.

Lee - did you ever go on a date with a guy from a computer games company called Matt (the guy, not the company)? I was party to some disturbing real life/ TMO crossover information on Saturday.
 
Posted by Lee Holloway (Member # 877) on :
 
Matt from CSI. Worst date of my life. 'Go down on you shall I?' He got stoned and spoke like Yoda. It was like he'd memorised some early 90s 'Now Not To Date-Rape Girls' guidebook, and then the disgusting amounts of spliff he was imbibing was making it come out all backwards. Oh my.

I'm sure he speaks very highly of me.

[ 11.04.2006, 05:07: Message edited by: Lee Holloway ]
 
Posted by Thorn Davis (Member # 65) on :
 
That is especially funny/ satisfying because as of a couple of weeks ago he is going out with Rose Davis. I haven't met him, but she did ring me on Saturday to impart what she thought was an amusing coincidence, even though it's worse than she realises.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
I've seen Christina twice since we broke up, which isn't very many times. I suppose that initially, you don't want to hook up because you're trying to move on, and then once you've moved on, there's a strange sense of dislocation when you hook up. The death of a serious relationship is like an actual death. You have to restructure your life so that the emotional hole is filled - every relationship will change slightly.

When I have seen Chris, both times it's felt, not unpleasant, but strange, like I've manifested some memories rather than like she's really real, living her life without me. We can talk and go 'must meet up for a drink' etc, but I can't really relate to her. It's like, there'll always be a part of me that loves her, and because it's been locked away in the land of memories, there's something of a void in my reaction to her, a space where those feelings would be if I hadn't spent a year bullying them into a semi-fictional existance. The overwhelming feeling is most comparable to deja vu.

[ 11.04.2006, 05:14: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
perhaps more importantly, our friend dizzy blonde rose bought a dog bed yesterday. A replacement perhaps, or is she sealing her recent engagement by getting a dog in?
 
Posted by London (Member # 29) on :
 
Are we friends now, Benway? By the way, can I have my £20 back? [Smile]

I don't really see Jake. His new wife won't let me see him. It's like, yeah, we were childhood sweethearts and lost our virginities to each other and went out for our entire late teens and twenties but YOU'RE MARRIED TO HIM AND YOU HAVE HIS KID SO MAYBE JUST MAYBE I COULD GO OUT FOR A DRINK WITH THE GUY I LIVED WITH FOR OVER A DECADE? No? Oh, right. No.
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lee Holloway:
Matt from CSI. Worst date of my life. 'Go down on you shall I?' He got stoned and spoke like Yoda. It was like he'd memorised some early 90s 'Now Not To Date-Rape Girls' guidebook, and then the disgusting amounts of spliff he was imbibing was making it come out all backwards. Oh my.

I'm sure he speaks very highly of me.

lol although technically yoda would have said
"Go down in you I shall" still, quite funny...
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by London:
Are we friends now, Benway? By the way, can I have my £20 back? [Smile]

Yeah I think we're friends. It's different if you've never been friends with the person in question though. I was never friends with chris. As for the twenty pounds. I could have it for you next time we meet up : [Cool]
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
 -

Look at the size of that thing.
 
Posted by omikin (Member # 37) on :
 
never mind that, look at the size of the rabbit it's holding!
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
i'm hungry
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
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[ 11.04.2006, 08:34: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by Honeybaby (Member # 543) on :
 
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[ 11.04.2006, 11:00: Message edited by: Honeybaby ]
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
odd

So to conclude Honeybaby, you don't want to be with these two guys but you can't stop fucking them? Man you're a heartbreaker. They should lock you up. Woah-oh here you come, you're a maneater.

[ 11.04.2006, 08:38: Message edited by: New Way Of Decay ]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
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Why the edit, misc? You've posted worse. [Smile]
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
I've got a height complex.
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
After looking at some band pics, I understand completely now. And I won't mention that I'm 6'4".
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Sorry NWoD. [Frown]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
So how tall are you, nwad?
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
Stop picking on Mikee, ralph! [Mad]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Jesus Ralph. How about you use some of that famous american tact?
 
Posted by Uber Trick (Member # 456) on :
 
Yeah, beardy!
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uber Trick:
Stop picking on Mikee, ralph! [Mad]

I didn't realize that asking someone how tall they were could be construed as picking on them.

Sorry, nwad. You'll always be a giant among TMO posters in my book.
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ralph:
I didn't realize that asking someone how tall they were could be construed as picking on them.

He just said he had a height complex. Fuck - how much more obvious does he have to make it?
quote:

Sorry, nwad. You'll always be a giant among TMO posters in my book.

It's too late for this shit, Ralph. He's probably never going to come back now, and it's your fault.

Fuxake! [Mad]
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
You've made me cry now ralph. People can be so cruel without knowing that the other two knock around 6 foot. I suggest that you consider all creatures, short people, tall people, carpetless prostitutes and guys who can't grow very good beard as one of gods creatures. We all deserve that level of respect.

I'm going to continue until my account is deleted or the world ends. Whichever comes first.

[ 11.04.2006, 08:55: Message edited by: New Way Of Decay ]
 
Posted by ralph (Member # 773) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles:
He just said he had a height complex. Fuck - how much more obvious does he have to make it?

I guess I also didn't realize that everything that people posted here was the gospel truth.


Short people are just the same
As you and I
(A fool such as I)
All men are brothers
Until the day they die
(It's a wonderful world)

 
Posted by Honeybaby (Member # 543) on :
 
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[ 11.04.2006, 10:59: Message edited by: Honeybaby ]
 
Posted by MiscellaneousFiles (Member # 60) on :
 
Mikee has just e-mailed me:

quote:
I can't believe it! Darryn deleted my account! Ralph comes on our board and makes fun of my height and MY account gets deleted for it. Jesus.
[Frown]

[ 11.04.2006, 09:09: Message edited by: MiscellaneousFiles ]
 
Posted by H1ppychick (Member # 529) on :
 
lolarrrriffic
 
Posted by Lee Holloway (Member # 877) on :
 
oops

[ 12.04.2006, 02:44: Message edited by: Lee Holloway ]
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
wedding snaps?
 
Posted by New Way Of Decay (Member # 106) on :
 
lol, you are obsessed, do you keep all the old details of ebuyers and surf them from time to time?
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
[Smile]
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
The complete series of Hustle.

Doesn't reveal much, but £6 a season seems good value.

[ 03.05.2006, 08:47: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
what's your ebay username, benway?
 
Posted by not... (Member # 25) on :
 
He won't tell you but I know it is:

isis_primarch
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
it's standard_deluxe, after the clothing label. I was into that kind of thing back in 2001. Million Dollar as well. Happy days.
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
bah! anime, horror and nintendo.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
you knows it! There's no mystery about me.
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
i bought something stupid and probably ugly today:

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(the bag, not ipod)
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
that's pretty emo.

I'm going on a huge cabos spree for good sunny hiphop tunes. Any ideas?
 
Posted by Darryn.R (Member # 1) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vikram:
i bought something stupid and probably ugly today:

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(the bag, not ipod)

I can't wait till Femke sees that, she'll seethe with envy.
I keep finding airline stuff all around the house, it's like she can't not buy it if she sees it and that bag is very nice...

I don't suppose you're in the market for some chairs to match are you, we have some.. Old KLM I think.

[ 03.05.2006, 14:28: Message edited by: Darryn.R ]
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
do you think that bag is a bit femme, darren? it was in the men's accessories section, but i'm not sure about. we'll see i guess.

klm (my fave airline!) seats would be cool, but you know, i think that maybe that's overdoing it.
 
Posted by Waynster (Member # 56) on :
 
Vikram - why are you such a fan of KLM? I have to fly with them in the morning, but i've never been overawed by them.

Now BA - they rock - I have never had an unejoyable flight with them. The Waynster's favourite airline.

And Darryn - I know where there are a stack of airline seats just sitting there doing nothing.
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Waynster:
Vikram - why are you such a fan of KLM? I have to fly with them in the morning, but i've never been overawed by them.

quote:
Originally posted by vikram:
Good customer services - KLM. Never flown with them, but I will, solely because: being a plane obsessed kid, I wrote to all the airlines asking for promo stuffz. Got the usual (stickers and shit) or nothing, but KLM were extra special. Had to go pick up the package at the post office. It was a giant poster of teh cockpit, all annotated. Was so happy! Holland rocks!

I can't praise Singapore Airlines enough. Flown with them quite a few times and they really are wonderful. Good food, nice selection of drinks (only neg is they serve johnny walker red rather than black), comfi seats, new quiet planes, superb entertainment system with a great range of movies and tv shows (on some flights v.o.d.), lovely if bit too slick flight attendants and the best hub ever (the ultra-efficient changi airport - complete with a swimming pool). also! look what you can buy on board:

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[ 03.05.2006, 16:14: Message edited by: vikram ]
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
hey vikram, you can hold the search for summer hip hop! Found a cracking album by People under the Stairs that is pure laaaaaaaid back endo smokin beats, son. pharcyde funky.It'll do, but the sun's gone down now! [Embarrassed]

[ 03.05.2006, 16:07: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
i really need to buy that movie, it totally rocks
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
i dunno blud. It does when you're a kid, but it's actually kind of crap apart from a few choice moments.
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
although I spose it's pretty fucked all the way through. Quite a few images that'll stay with you.
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
i saw it on tv recently and still love it

checkit
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
it is a pretty fucking dodgy movie actually
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
feels like a kids movie


but seriously dark
 
Posted by Dr. Benway (Member # 20) on :
 
I used to love it, but the last time I saw it, I thought that the actual people under the stairs sucked, and the hassle with the dog was kind of boring. And the relationship between the three kids was a bit lame. I just liked the parents. Where the kid puts on her lovely white dress, and then they make her scrub blood off the floor, and she's all sliding around in it. I liked that, the way they grab the kid and throw her in the blood.

[ 03.05.2006, 16:43: Message edited by: Dr. Benway ]
 
Posted by vikram (Member # 98) on :
 
yeah, that was cool. but i like the dog and gimpman running around with shotgun. was funny!
 


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