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I'm with Thorn on this. No matter what job I've had, there's always something I'd rather be doing than being at work. This just seems obvious, to me, yet I've had lots of conversations with friends who have said they have had jobs, at particular times, that were so good they wouldn't prefer to be doing anything else.
I just don't get that. Even if my job was, say, being a brilliant, much-loved, highly respected musician, there would still be deadlines and shit that I wouldn't want to do. And the actual grind of writing music, of creating.
Was it Oscar Wilde who said "find a job you love, and you won't do another day's work in your life"?
"A job you love". How can you love it, if it's a job?
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quote:Originally posted by mart: "A job you love". How can you love it, if it's a job?
As a teenager I often thought that being a porn star would be the perfect job. Fucking the brains out of big-titted women all day long - and getting paid for the privilege. However, I imagine that even this would become tiresome extremely quickly; the sex becoming as predictable and monotonous as both this post, and morning meetings with rank coffee in polystyrene cups. Depressing really.
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I think being a porn star would actually be largely ok. I'm sure there would be days when you were a bit "Fuck this, I just want to chill out with the XBox and a beer", but I reckon you'd probably be enjoying yourself a bit more than if - say - you were doing telesales, or working in an excel spreadsheet. Especially if you were in the top tier of the market - working on Private's top line productions. That way you'd get to go out on location with dozens of people, do a bit of 'real' acting, and just have some fun. Film's like Pirates and stuff like that, everyone looks like they're all having a ball.
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quote:Originally posted by dance margarita: pornomen dont have to worry about ending up with a rectum like the hem of gandalf's gown* though. its not comparable.
Not so sure about that. I'm not claiming that it's the same scenario for all porn stars, but Dirk Diggler's 'rise and fall' in Boogie Nights was pretty depressing.
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You don't have to do anal. If you've got another talent (e.g. squirting, gag-free deep-throating or a very open mind when it comes to wee-wee) you've still got a chance of making it.
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quote:Originally posted by dance margarita: pornomen dont have to worry about ending up with a rectum like the hem of gandalf's gown* though. its not comparable.
(*billowing, ragged, muddy.)
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I love the way the Google directions take you to France first, also. As if swimming the Atlantic weren't inconvenient enough, you also have to bypass Penzance, Plymouth and Exeter (all of which I'm sure would be nice enough places to crawl ashore and take a bit of a rest) and instead continue on to France. Perhaps this was done in order to allow the traveler to procure grease for the channel crossing, which would still be inconvenient but at least in a thoughtful sort of way.
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Sorry to report back late. Here it is. I arrived, looking really smart, about two hours before the interview, so I popped across the road to the wetherspoons pub to cram my research before the interview. I was a bit nervous so I had a few pints and bought a pack of gum on my way over via the newsagents. I was sweating a bit (probably nerves) but I think I looked really cool because I was chewing the gum. I got the guys name wrong but I apologised a few times in the lift up to the 14th floor and he told me to forget about it. I'd loosened up my tie a bit by now, so I felt relaxed and the chair was comfy enough to slouch in. The first few questions were quite difficult, and I struggled for a while, but the pace of the questions started to increase and we moved on to closed questioning and I shook everyones hand a couple of times each, thanking them for the opportunity. I was out earlier than expected, so I celebrated a job well done in the pub across the road and gave them a chirpy wave as they filed out at the end of the day.
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It was a cakewalk. Any attempt by me to act professional and serious was broken down by a relaxed introduction to the business and an easy going manager doing the interview. Either they've had enough of interviewing already or they are confident I might well be fit for the job. The conversation was light, jokey and chill. Examples like:
"We've had a massive turnover...I don't know what it is.." "...reports of 5 billion in 2006..." "...there we go. Good. You know your stuff. That's proactive. Good"
I'm confident, but not 100% certain yet. I had to fill out an aptitude test which didn't have me too worried, so I think we're waiting on that. I really hope I get it, because it will be a really good opportunity for me to finally sort myself out. That and the fact that today I arrived to find my other four colleagues were casually told we're not getting paid and we'll have to wait until the end of April. There is quite an uproar.
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Glad to hear it wasn't a nightmare. What on earth is an aptitude test? "Aptitude" is a word that I thought only ever appeared on school reports.
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quote:Originally posted by Vogon Poetess: Glad to hear it wasn't a nightmare. What on earth is an aptitude test? "Aptitude" is a word that I thought only ever appeared on school reports.
Usually just a management pre-requisite which is substituted for the above by those in the decision process (ie the interviewers)
I think I have sat 4 of these in the past - first was a Royal Navy aptitude test, one was for a YTS apprenticeship, one for my first IT job (my ridiculously high score got me an interview very quickly), and the last one was quite recentley for a recruitment agency - as a candidate. I had to travel all the way to Brussels for what I thought was a legit interview, sit the test (which was in flemish, so I couldn't answer half the questions) and then be told a week later the client did not want to see me as I had not passed the aptitude test, knowing full well I was an English speaker.
quote:Originally posted by Vogon Poetess: What on earth is an aptitude test?
A series of tests that you have a set time to complete, achieving a certain minimum score to pass. The tests usually focus on a skill that will be essential for the role you're applying for, for example, air traffic control interviews involve aptitude tests that comprise of interpreting patterns (you'll be given 3/4 shapes, then have to chose which one comes next), spacial awareness (looking at various objects and working out which of the choices will fit), understanding formulas (algebra/maths questions).
Very exciting stuff, as you can imagine. You can buy books which offer advice on how to tackle certain types of questions, which makes them a piece of piss, even for a spazmoid like me.
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quote:Originally posted by Vogon Poetess: What on earth is an aptitude test?
Sometimes known as a 'monkey test'. It's astonishing how many people fail them. I do wonder if some people fail because they think they must be trick questions:
What is five times four?
"Five times four"? What can they mean by that? Have they deliberately spelled "for" wrong. "What are five times for?" No, that can't be right. Think. Think.
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News just in: the psychology test was explained entirely arse about tit. When I looked at the paperwork, it seemed to simply state two choices: my own answer and the ideal candidate, but the answers were pitched to me as thus: my own answer and what I think is a more true statement. So, apparently the answers are going to say that I think the perfect candidate has to hate his Mother and Father from time to time. God fucking damn. Maybe trying to understand the shonky description to the psychology test was the final question to the aptitude test.
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Those psychometric tests (for that is their proper name) are I think just a cop out from the interviewer - if they haven't the jacob's to decide whether or not you are a thouroughly nice chap or psycho-hosebeast by a quick chat over a coffee about your career and personal life, then obviously their shortcomings as employers are firmly evident. Would you want to work for a company who believes some third party bunch of crackpots whose computer program for assesment is actually more closely related to a game of darts than actual scientific research and data collection?
Two of my colleagues have upped and left the building to go and confront our manager in person. I'm sat here feeling just a bit like....well, completely fucked. Somehow I'm still in a jolly mood. lololol.
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I should perhaps, in true TMO courtesy explain my dislike for these tests. Apart from the Belgian Episode (there was a psychometric test as well as the aptitude test), many moons ago I worked in recruitment. On more than one occasion I sent someone along for an interview, very well qualified for the job, both parties like each other very much and hints are made of job offers (which meant cash for me) - only then for the candidate to be called back for a psychometric test ('oh just a formality - nothing to intefere with the hiring process') and then being turned down because they apparently failed a test which you are not supposed to be able to fail at ('Don't worry - there are no wrong answers!')
I just wonder how many managers are sitting in their offices in complete despair at the fucktard they hired because a computer said he was ace, against their own judgement?
quote:Originally posted by ralph: Did they tell you when you might expect to hear something about the position?
Hopefully today, to arrange to go back to meet managers of the different departments I'd be liasing with. My chap in HR said he'll see what the manager thought of me and the Psych-test shouldn't matter too much. We'll see eh? But mostly, it's given me a more optimistic outlook for the future.
quote:Originally posted by ralph: Excellent. What's that like?
I hope you hear back soon and it's good news. I am a bit concerned about the psych test though.
It's like, even when everything is shit, you feel a kind of inner protection. It's a warm feeling, like being protected from evil, wherever it lurks.
Get IN! I got called back, the like me, they like my attitude and they want me to go in informally on Monday to meet the managers to talk to them about the role! HR Chap congratulated me.....so I think this is it.
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