quote:Originally posted by Black Mask: Would a film like this really be healthy, though? Surely women are happier with films about romance, chocolate, gay best friends and dancing hunks? No?
You've been watching Madonna and Rupert Everett again, haven't you?
God I'd love to see a proper blow-everything-up film directed by a wimmin.
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quote:Originally posted by scrawny: Did you really think it was awful? Or is it just not trendy to like it because Glamour magazine gave it 5 stars*?
*Probably
Actually, I thought it had very good reviews? Wasn't it supposed to be the sleeper hit of the summer? No, I really thought it was dire. There are some films where, although nothing happens, you're gripped from end to end. Lost in Translation was just a waste of two hours and some popcorn.*
*This is obviously a lie - popcorn is never a waste of time.
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quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: I think most of the time the woman-angst thing tends to be played out on television, rather than in the cinemas simply because that's where the bulk of the audience is. You could argue that if there were more films aimed at women, then more women would go to the pictures, but it's not really in the nature of the business to take any kind of risk.
yeah, fair points, although i dont know, do women go to the cinema less than men? i cant really say from a personal pov because so many of my female friends are movie buffs and so see films as much as their male counterparts. it sounds like the kind of thing statistics would bear out though.
i dont really want films aimed at women, though, thats the rub. you know, there are enough shitty films out there aimed at women, that none of us would ever go and see. yer 'shall we dance?'s and that sort of thing. i just want films aimed at everybody but which portray actual 3 dimensional women. im sort of getting more into the idea of writing screenplays but wouldnt have the first idea how to go about it. you know, does the world really need another novel written by an angsty 30-something woman? not really. whereas films...
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quote:Originally posted by The H Pony: Actually, I thought it had very good reviews?
Yup, it did. I thought that was my point.
quote: No, I really thought it was dire. Lost in Translation was just a waste of two hours and some popcorn.*
Really? I understand that mass popular appeal puts some people off saying they like things, but I didn't think anybody thought it was a truly terrible film. Did you think it was better or worse than The Matrix Revolutions? Better or worse than The Last Samurai? Better or worse (here comes the money shot) than Legally Blonde 2?
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Yeah i thought Lost In Translation was pretty tiresome and vacuous. The humour never really worked, and the angst was sort of formless, generic 'I'm so bored' rubbish. You know, like teenage poetry that goes "the aching darkness begins again and eats at my insides". Doesn't really connect with anything. It's just kind of maudlin and ill-defined. I read a great comment about the ending of the film where he whispers whatever to her...
"Apparently Sofia Coppola felt that the moment was too intimate even for the audience to be allowed to witness it. Shame she didn't feel that way about the rest of the movie."
quote:Originally posted by scrawny: I understand that mass popular appeal puts some people off saying they like things, but I didn't think anybody thought it was a truly terrible film. Did you think it was better or worse than The Matrix Revolutions? Better or worse than The Last Samurai? Better or worse (here comes the money shot) than Legally Blonde 2?
Lol. I couldn't bring myself to watch any of those, so by definition better.
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quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: the angst was sort of formless, generic 'I'm so bored' rubbish. You know, like teenage poetry that goes "the aching darkness begins again and eats at my insides". Doesn't really connect with anything. It's just kind of maudlin and ill-defined.
also, this is a perfect description of everything scarlet johanssen has ever done. when did looking mildly hacked off and being husky pass for acting? affect, scarlett, affect! everything ive ever seen scarlett johnassen in she looked like what would happen if the costume intern stood in for the actual star whilst she was having her make-up done, and the director got confused and cut together the wrong bits off the cutting room floor. i dislike her intensely.
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quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: Defending Robocop is roughly as easy as attacking Big Momma's House, though. You may as well praise someone for cobbling together a decent for case for The Third Man
Don't make me laugh - you couldn't even work up a defence of Pulp Fiction without coming across like a deformed by-blow of Father Geek and Paul Ross.
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quote:Originally posted by ben: Don't make me laugh - you couldn't even work up a defence of Pulp Fiction without coming across like a deformed by-blow of Father Geek and Paul Ross.
Fuck it, then, if that's what you think of me: I give up.
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quote:Originally posted by discodamage: [QB] affect, scarlett, affect!
Meh. i thought she was lovely in it. I've not seen anything else with her in it apart from that godawful Calvin Klein ad though, so maybe what I took for understated brilliance was actually just a completely wooden performance.
Is there any one film which we cana ll agree on? A film thaat cannot be argued with, regardless of your taste in genre etc?
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quote:Originally posted by discodamage:
also, this is a perfect description of everything scarlet johanssen has ever done. when did looking mildly hacked off and being husky pass for acting? affect, scarlett, affect! everything ive ever seen scarlett johnassen in she looked like what would happen if the costume intern stood in for the actual star whilst she was having her make-up done, and the director got confused and cut together the wrong bits off the cutting room floor. i dislike her intensely. [/QUOTE]
I assume you have seen Ghost World?
If yes - You would know that the above is sooo not the case.
If not - shakes head and looks at feet
Also Girl with the pearl earring - same rules apply.
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Lost In Translation was fucking rubbish. A healthy, wealthy, reasonably well-balanced young woman finds herself at a loose end in one of the most exciting cities in the world... cue drama. Her boyfriend's a bit busy. Boo-fucking-hoo. She mopes about the hotel. Oh, the humanity!
I saw Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance last night and that rocked hard.
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I loved Lost in Translation. Obviously. The film was so delicate, so real. I identified with it totally, with both the leads. The depiction of the Japanese, especially all the incomprehensions, was lame. Still, a motherfucker of an advert for Japan and a wonderfully tender movie.
Recently I watched Brother (gets better and better), Along Came Polly (surprisingly good, Jennifer Aniston hott), Seven Years in Tibet (excellent), Face/Off (watch once a month. adore), and none films from 2005.
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yes, no, I agree with Mask about Translation. I was drunk in the cinema, so it kind of floated past me. It seemed very ambient and shallow, and it would have worked well if we had heard the whisper at the end, really loudly going "Apathy...The new fragrance from Calvin Klein". It was a shame that so little actual Japanese culture seemed to be captured, and the use of it as an impenetrable alienating context seemed a bit slack, like Sofia herself couldn't really be bothered with the place either. Maybe I'm just jealous because I could never in a million years afford to go there.
As BM said, boo-fucking-hoo. Sympathy... is a fucking great film though. Chan Park-Wook is making a sequel at the moment called - wait for it -Sympathy for Lady Venegeance. Fans of Korean cinema and depictions of horrific pain should check out "The Isle" by the chap who made Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter..And Spring, or whatever it was called. In the Isle, a man swallows a bunch of fishhooks and then yanks the fishing line that they are attached to. Ouch! It's a beautiful looking film, with little dialogue and not much in the way of action. No Wire Fu. There is some standard Korean animal violence (but it's okay to eat fish, because they don't have any feelings), a bit of shitting and pissing, and some sex. It's about this deaf chick who is the manager/hooker to a load of little floating fishing huts, and she falls for a guy who is on the run. It's the story of their romance, tied in with notions of natural cycles, the violence of 'catching' somebody, and the piscean nature of the human heart. At least, that's what I reckon.
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Sorry, but can someone explain to me how you lot let a newbie get away with saying that Eraser is in any way CORE Arnie. Are you mental?
Fairplay to Mask for calling Commando though, "Let off some steam" indeed. By far the best way to watch that film is as a teenager with your late-fifty-something six-five Glaswegian ex-Royal Marine Uncle, cans of Carling, and second-hand Bensons' smoke.
Kinsey is very good, Neeson gives a really, really strong screen performance (i.e. it's not very showy, but there's alot going on).
They are showing a double bill of Sympathy and Oldboy at my local cinema on Sunday. Despite owning both on dvd I still I want to go, but only if they are showing them chronologically. What with Oldboy being the more upbeat of the two.
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In the Company of Men is on tomorrow night, if anyone's interested. Nicely acted, crow-black sting comedy in the style of Mamet - worth recording.
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