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All those crusties in one spot, and no one around with a bar of soap or a tactical nuclear device.
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Thanks Kovacs. I only posted those up to prove that occasionally you can get lucky snaps, that whilst technical ability and good equipment is obviously important, sometimes the gods just smile on the random point'n'clicker like me as well. In case you are wondering why I picked these out, I like the one on the chairlift cos of the framing of the face in the arm, and I like the one of my friend doing the slalom cos he's almost out of frame and you get the impression of speed.
I know they're not technically great, they are after all taken with a weeny little digital camera with no zoom at all and no viewfinder (you have to use the LCD screen and hence are trying to frame things from about 30 cm away). By the way the reason most of them are from my skiing holiday is because I only got the camera just before it, i.e. about 6 weeks ago. I've probably got some OK older pictures somewhere but I would need to dig them out and scan them in and I couldn't really be arsed.
I'm putting off going to bed by writing random drivel to an audience of zero.
Must. Sleep. Now.
parting shots...
worm's eye view - grapeforest
life's a drag
OK I promise I'll stop now, this thread is already consuming Misc's bandwidth like an Arrakeen sandworm.
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quote:Originally posted by Hippychick: I know they're not technically great,
Hippychick, don't be put off by the quality of the equipment, it appears like you have the eye for it, which is 90% of the battle, the rest of it is just perfectionist bullshit. I took these pictures with an old Olympus OM10 that I bought for about 20 quid to take to Curacao because I did not want my Nikon stolen by some Steely man. the composition is crap in the sun meets boat and the horizon is not level, but its the moment thats important to me, sometimes timing is everything.
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I agree with you two; my old camera's 1.5mp capacity was technically pretty primitive, and I never used the viewfinder -- ironically I have always felt the LCD easier to use, so didn't see this as a disadvantage -- it is more down to luck, to ratio (one good pic out of 20) and perhaps to a creative instinct.
quote:Originally posted by kovacs: it is more down to luck, to ratio (one good pic out of 20) and perhaps to a creative instinct.
In my opinion, this is the main value of digital cameras. It allows you to experiment with things that you would otherwise never try because the "probably wouldn't work". Liberated from any cost for mistakes, you can take those potential shots, which just might work - something you might never bother to try with film. It's hit-and-miss and often doesn't require the techical knowledge and discipline of traditional photography, but it's certainly a valid new form of the medium.
quote:Originally posted by kovacs: Can we have this wonderful thread archived please Darryn.
I'd be happy to set up a gallery on TMOuncovered for members to upload and display their pics.
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: I'd be happy to set up a gallery on TMOuncovered for members to upload and display their pics.
I don't know how much bandwidth you have Misc.. But, I have 18Gb of transfer per month I can spare... If you want, as soon as I have a few extra pounds, I can reg a domain of some sort (or you can if you want to 'own' it) and I can set up a hosting account for it...
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quote:Originally posted by sabian: I don't know how much bandwidth you have Misc.. But, I have 18Gb of transfer per month I can spare... If you want, as soon as I have a few extra pounds, I can reg a domain of some sort (or you can if you want to 'own' it) and I can set up a hosting account for it...
My web space is allegedly "unlimited", as is the bandwidth. I'd really like to test this theory and max them out, just to prove the point. But seriously, I'm happy to host it, but if you have the space & time then feel free...
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: My web space is allegedly "unlimited", as is the bandwidth. I'd really like to test this theory and max them out, just to prove the point. But seriously, I'm happy to host it, but if you have the space & time then feel free...
Well, I lack the 'technical' ability to make it look nice... I'd be able to slap together something basic and a php gallery... But, that'd be the extent of it. That's why I offered the account to you... But, if you have 'unlimited' bandwidth/space, I guess it's not needed! Just thought I'd offer!
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quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: Liberated from any cost for mistakes, you can take those potential shots, which just might work...
My cheapo digital camera takes the picture and then immediately displays a dustbin icon for about ten seconds so you can immediately delete it if/when it's shite. I presume most digitals have this, but it's very useful I must say - especially when you're as crap at photos as me. Mrs Dang has the skillz though and takes superb pics with a proper camera. But they'd need scanning, and who can ever be bothered with that?
Changing topic slightly: What do people here do about storing all their digital photos/movie clips? Do you put them on to sensibly organised CD-Rs or print out the best ones on photo paper with a laser printer? Or are you like me and have them dotted around in 267 seperate folders on three hard drives and 12 web sites?
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Dang, my dad saves his up and then there's some website that you can send your faves to and get them printed off like real photos, and sent to you in real post for a reasonable price.
But I don't know the name of the site.
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quote:Originally posted by dang65: Mrs Dang has the skillz though and takes superb pics with a proper camera. But they'd need scanning, and who can ever be bothered with that?
Why not get your photos put on CD alongside your prints when you get them developed? It's not half as expensive as it used to be - and there always seem to be vouchers and offers so you can get them free.
quote:Originally posted by dang65: Changing topic slightly: What do people here do about storing all their digital photos/movie clips?
I archive all my photos on CD-Rs. I tend to archive a batch off the Flash Card in a particular folder (almost like a roll of film). I keep all the original images, so when I've mucked about with them in Photoshop, I always have the full quality starting point to go back to.
Yes folks, I have 1600x1200 images of you all from the meets - and yes you can see those wrinkles!
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Right, all this talk - and the hot weather too - has inspired me to go out and buy a Canon Digital Ixus V3 which is about 12 billion times better than the redundant semi-toy Kodak MC3 I've got at the moment.
I'm going to get it from Argos, which might not be the cheapest option but I've got nearly 150 quid on my Sainsburys Nectar card, due to some 5 years worth of Barclaycard points being transferred onto it, and you can use Nectar cards to pay for things in Argos.
quote:Originally posted by dang65: [QB]Right, all this talk - and the hot weather too - has inspired me to go out and buy a Canon Digital Ixus V3 which is about 12 billion times better than the redundant semi-toy Kodak MC3 I've got at the moment.
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ARRRGGHHHHH
I went and had a look at one of those last night, its much better looking than the Nikon Coolpix 3100 but I a still not convinced it offers better functionality, plus the 3100 has 3x optical zoom and the IXUS v3 only has 2x.
quote:Originally posted by Vogon Poetess: Dang, my dad saves his up and then there's some website that you can send your faves to and get them printed off like real photos, and sent to you in real post for a reasonable price.
But I don't know the name of the site.
You can take a floppy into Boots Tott Ct Rd and get this done.
Misc, a gallery on your site would be excellent as you already have so much TMO material there. Could you copy the pix already on this thread? Apart from Stealy's.
Re. your point about digital pix being a different form of or at least approach to photography, I wonder if camera-phones won't push this even further in the same direction. The casual, throwaway shot -- photography far more as cheap and snatched experiment. I know a bit about the wet collodion process that was dominant in photography until (?) 1880 or so, and it was a chemistry lesson involving a cartload of kit. See Carroll, "Hiawatha's Photographing" for details.
quote:Hippychick: I don't suppose you could resize and repost your cock could you Steely?
quote:Originally posted by Gemini: I can't cope with this decision.
I think the fact that I can't find the Nikon in the Argos catalogue has helped my decision
Another thing that's swayed it is that the technical specification for the Nikon says there's no audio on video clips??? Even my cheapo Kodak has video sound. Is that a typo?
quote:Originally posted by dang65: I think the fact that I can't find the Nikon in the Argos catalogue has helped my decision
Another thing that's swayed it is that the technical specification for the Nikon says there's no audio on video clips??? Even my cheapo Kodak has video sound. Is that a typo?
true but I can think of no situation where I would use the video clip anyway.
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I am using the computers at the library at the moment so there is no image handling programme available that I can use to resize the photos sorry.
Here is a smaller photo though that I took from the London Eye a while back. The view is not too brilliant as the wheel only goes to a height of 400 feet about the same height as Parliament Hill on Hampstead Heath.
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Oh alright then. Stevie, where've you been for the past week or so?
Am better-tempered today for all sorts of reasons. Darryn could this thread be archived also for those of us who are broke but really want to buy a new camera this year, to save the advice?
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: Buy the IXUS. You will thank yourself.
It is done. Now need to wait 4hrs for battery to charge. Patience required. Or a trip to pub to thank myself perhaps.
quote:Edited to add: The video clip feature on Kellfier's IXUS V is really good. You can even plug it into your VCR and record to VHS.
I used the video option a lot on my Kodak so I had to have this, especially as my proper camcorder is ancient and completely knackered. I also find that having limited memory for video provides an excellent restraint on the temptation to film the kids eating breakfast for 20 minutes, or whatever. Short, sharp clips - definitely the way forward for no-hopers like me.
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Cost tip! For all those budding non-digital photographers out there.
The ratio of one good shot in 36, perhaps even 136 is a good one. Obviously this costs a lot to develop each time onto prints if you are using negatives.
What I do is use slide film with an older SLR camera for better control and only get the slides developed. In that way it costs me about 3 euros to get the film developed with no prints. then you pick out the best ones, if at all and get them developed in a normal highstreet shop. this means you can go for quality shots that you would not get with a chepear digital camera. And if you have any real stunners to be developed then you get professional cibachrome prints done with contrast masking.
The downside is that getting slides onto prints in a highstreet shop is usually not that good because they don't use contrast masking techniques and the midtones are not so good. ie theres too much contrast between dark and light spots of the picture.
If you pick up a good second-hand SLR you can control the depth of field and speed which is extremely important if you want some control of the creativity in the picture.
Just food for thought.
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