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Cheers NWOD. If I am that indesirable, do i really need a thread all about me?
I wish I hadn't missed thorn's post. I respect his opinion; at least he's balanced and I am still reeling at what I have done that is so bad. What the hell was so wrong with my posts? What's the difference beteeen a bit OTT and a sense of humnour by-pass that needs moderating, and something deserving of hate-posts?
Would someone at least try to tell me - and not of the you're turtle/unstable variety of reply - because I really don't see it.
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I don't think anyone hates you, sam, just finds you hard to deal with, as you don't behave by the same 'conversational' rules as everyone else on here.
It's the difference between having a heated conversation in a pub, with each person in a group getting roughly the same time putting their point across, with occasional use of 'salty' humour, or having the conversation dominated by one person shouting their point relentlessly, which everyone else understood about half an hour ago, as they one by one make excuses to go to the bar.
We all understand what you're saying, you just don't need to say it quite so much.
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For what it's worth, I think that thread in Society went brilliantly and we need more days like that, not fewer. Come on. What do you all prefer? Yesterday or the days when you keep pressing refresh and nothing happens?
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quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: My post wasn't about you. It was an explosive rant about people storming off because of the Moses thing.
What is this Moses thing? I come on here most days but I always seem to miss the stomp offs. And it's usually people I like that do it as well. I liked chocolatebuns and Louche and the rest. Why do they all go postal all of a sudden? You're not going to do that as well are you sam? It's like people are being picked off by a horror movie monster. The TMO server room wasn't built on an old Indian graveyard was it?
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She just said she couldn't bear that thread. Did she actually say elsewhere she was leaving TMO because of that or have people just assumed?
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quote:Originally posted by Thorn Davis: My post wasn't about you. It was an explosive rant about people storming off because of the Moses thing.
What is this Moses thing? I come on here most days but I always seem to miss the stomp offs. And it's usually people I like that do it as well. I liked chocolatebuns and Louche and the rest. Why do they all go postal all of a sudden? You're not going to do that as well are you sam? It's like people are being picked off by a horror movie monster. The TMO server room wasn't built on an old Indian graveyard was it?
I liked them all too.
I'd like to know more about the Moses thing. She found a baby in a pond and ran away with it?
No I'm not going to go off. NWOD has shaken me a lot, but tmo is a part of my life and unless I am voted off, I want to stay. Of course, no-one will stay where they aren't wanted (except turtle, poor cow that I was); that's just plain sad, so I guess if it gets that bad I'll go, but I'm not ashamed to admit I love tmo.
Can't we have a thing they say, like S&M have a coded word or something, when I am being relentless repetitive, herbs - or can't people just say shut the fuck up you're ranting again? Then I might not get so carried away.
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quote:Originally posted by Cherry In Hove: She just said she couldn't bear that thread. Did she actually say elsewhere she was leaving TMO because of that or have people just assumed?
I dunno actually. NWoD seemed quite confident on the other thread, so I'd assumed she'd emailed him or something saying "God, that Thorn is such a c**t. He's chased me off TMO. What a wanker. That dickhead."
NWoD - Cherry in Hove is calling you a liar. Are you going to stand for that?
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When I went to see Interloper NWoD told me that they would be on at 10pm, whereas they didn't actually take the stage until about 10.15. The worst thing was that there was no reason for him to lie about that. Maybe it's a compulsive thing.
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quote:Originally posted by sam: Would someone at least try to tell me - and not of the you're turtle/unstable variety of reply - because I really don't see it.
The Turtle never changing its spots thing bothers you and you’ve asked that it not be used as part of an explanation as to why you’ve got a few people’s dander up. Having said that, it’s your history here and people’s perceptions of you are inevitably coloured by it.
It’s good that you’ve stopped drinking, well done. That’s sincere. However, it was never really the fact that you were drunk that was the problem; it was the way in which you chose to post. I’ll come to that in a minute.
I understand that several of your posts as Turtle were influenced by alcohol because you tell me that was so. That makes a difference to you. To us, on the other side of the internet, we’ve only got your posts to go on. The words are up there the same whether you’re drunk or sober. And it’s the words that wound people up.
It was traits like over-familiarity with posters you hadn’t developed an established relationship with, a patronising, paternal attitude to people who were neither your offspring nor, for all you knew, inferior to you intellectually, emotionally and in terms of life experience. It was the convenient evocation of (probably genuine) life experiences to defend your argument – the Checkmate: Some of my best friends are Black Down’s Syndrome Sufferers Who’ve Been Raped move. It was the passionate refusal to see the other side of an argument, the sassy sister cross examination, the machine gun rhetorical questions that provided their own answers on impact with a ‘huh?’ and a ‘hey?’. It was the blinkered belief that your experiences gave you ownership of a subject and the “You know nothing” retort to reasoned argument. It was the needy, saintly “what have I done wrong?” curtain calls to every major performance, it was unbearable obsession with analysing this community – not from the point of view of a member of it (we all do that, it’s welcome), not as a cog curious about its place in the machine, but rather as detached, interested observer. You placed yourself behind the microscope. You took that position. You forged a place as an outsider and then complained when you weren’t part of the community.
Plus you didn’t get the banter and you always spelled my name wrong.
It was a combination of the above and more that made people wary of engaging with you and made them angry. The cumulative effect of the above was an impression that you were dangerously unhinged. The self-confessed alcoholic persona added to that impression but it wasn’t necessary.
At least that’s the way I see it.
I think the reason NWOD and myself and Sabian got worked up yesterday is that much of the above was evident in several of your posts, because the words on the screen sounded like they could have been typed by Turtle or by Housewife or by Caretta or by any of the other incarnations from your Inebriated Period.
Everything you post is judged on its merits but I think you don't get as many extra lives as other people, any slack has been taken up by the weight of your past personas.
I’ve not been around much so I’m hardly the best placed to judge but I’d venture that you, as Sam, are rarely the poster your once were. Which is great. You seem to be integrating with this community in a way you were never able to before. It’s just that yesterday - drunk, sober or simply egged on by me (I hold my hands up and admit that I was maybe a bit antagonistic in my language. Sorry.) - you came over all chelonian. It wound people up.
I’m rarely here so I don’t really feel the right to make this post. But you asked and said please, so that’s the best I can do.
The best thing you can do, IMHO, would be let it lie now, not dissect it anymore and go back to being Sam.
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What is wrong with you sam? This isn't big brother. No-one gets voted off. It seems you are having a problem feeling validated in what you do for a living. That much is clear. For the past couple of weeks you’ve been retaliating to what appears to be voices in your head, not on the board about the ability to do your job. Like a tightly sprung mouse trap, it only takes a little bit of pressure (concern over something you said to a class) and you go off. You’re a black hole of arguments, sucking in everything in its path. You throw all of this light, flighty meandering drivel all over the board and when someone engages you, you turn on the attack. Now you’re upset and feel victimised? GROW THE FUCK UP. Standing around saying ‘right hands up if you want me to stay, hands up, I don’t see enough hands – you’re literally forcing me to leave I don’t care….I’m smiling’ isn’t exactly going to smooth things out.
Listen, I’m glad you’ve been off the drink for two years but you have to understand, that where I’m standing, this is still classic turtle behaviour. I’m genuinely sorry if you feel offended by what I’ve said. I’m not directing any hatred, malice or trying to isolate anyone with mental disabilities or people who love and care for them. I’m annoyed that you, as someone who must have exposure to schoolyard banter must understand that the words and their usage mean, but choose to act ignorant to the colloquial use of terms like Spaz and Gay that are in constant use throughout our green and pleasant land. Acting like the vanguard for your selected minorities is pitiful and constantly, STUPIDLY fucking ignoring someone who is saying to you ‘hello, you’ve offended me in the past, thanks’ is making you look insensitive. It makes you look like you’re playing the victim here and that’s why I’m giving you a hard time.
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Is it an extension of that phenomenon whereby teachers are genetically incapable of not declaring their profession within five minutes of meeting you? Like nurses?
How are you? Ooh had a hard day. SATS, you know Oh. And I've had to take PE. I'm quite tired too I suppose you think I have it easy because I have 12 weeks' holiday, but there's loads of marking....
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quote:Originally posted by herbs: Is it an extension of that phenomenon whereby teachers are genetically incapable of not declaring their profession within five minutes of meeting you? Like nurses?
How are you? Ooh had a hard day. SATS, you know Oh. And I've had to take PE. I'm quite tired too I suppose you think I have it easy because I have 12 weeks' holiday, but there's loads of marking....
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