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Those cockmunchers! You cant even see the forums without joining! I don't know if I am prepared to create a whole new email account (with male/gender unspecific address) just look at this shit...
quote:Originally posted by dang65: Post a review of the BBC archive site, which no one else in the world got access to except you, and I might put in a good word with my pals at LSS or whatever it's called.
It was complete shit - there's barely any content at all on there, and nothing I wanted to watch.
Also - the LSS is a lot more boring than I thought it would be.
Also Abby - I think if you click 'register' you get access to the forum, without having to sign in.
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quote:Originally posted by Abby: Those cockmunchers! You cant even see the forums without joining! I don't know if I am prepared to create a whole new email account (with male/gender unspecific address) just look at this shit...
Do it.
quote:Is it any good Zygote?
I've not posted yet. Just browsing through some of the sections. At first glance, it's far less sleazy than I thought it would be. But I've yet to scratch the surface.
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quote:Originally posted by Abby: I don't know if I am prepared to create a whole new email account (with male/gender unspecific address) just look at this shit...
Have a look at *this, Abby. It allows you to set up a disposable email address, which is perfect for this sort of nonsense.
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By the way, speaking of maltloaf, bizarrely enough I opened a cupboard in the kitchen the other day and what did I see staring back at me? A nice juicy pair of maltloaves. For one horrifying moment, the thought crossed my mind that maybe my parents read TMOPosts: 12211
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quote:Originally posted by Nathan Bleak: lol - megamale has listed the 7 reasons you'll never succeed as a PUA (pick up artist). Number five is 'Misoginism'.
quote:Originally posted by Nathan Bleak: lol - megamale has listed the 7 reasons you'll never succeed as a PUA (pick up artist). Number five is 'Misoginism'.
Where I work, PUA stands for 'potentially unwanted application' which is basically any piece of harmful crap you get off the internet which masquerades as something you might want, but then once you've got it on your system you realise all it intends to do is fuck you over.
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I'm loving Harley's suggestion here, for advice on chat-up lines when working behind the counter at HMV:
quote:I have now thought of something you could say to the girls buying records. Ask them if you they have heard music by certain new bands and try to advise them on the best new music etc. Tell them about special offers in the store etc. Like saying "do you know we have got some compilations of new music on a special offer". Make a comment about her like; "I can tell what type of girl you are by the type of music you are buying".
quote:Originally posted by Black Mask: 1. Uglee 2. Smelle 3. Studip 4. Porness 5. Misoginism 6. Arsholism 7. Alcolic
No, they're a lot more arbitrary than that...
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7 reasons you'll never succeed in PU « on: Today at 02:26:33 PM » Quote
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This will sound harsh but in my experience these points are the basic reasons guys cannot (and will not) progress in PU. Not everyone has these traits and some have many. There is no way around these as they are so fundamental to learning PU. I should call them the 7 sins of the newbie
1- Your EGO: Simple unwilligness to put yourself on the line. You're not really crap with women, you're just refining your technique aren't you? The message from the community “Be confident” is just backfiring with you because and you interpret it as don’t question yourself. You always take the instructor frame and sprout advice and don’t take any. For more on this here is a great post if you want to know more: http://www.thelss.com/forum/index.php?topic=8911.0
2- You’re a WUSS: Experiencing fear doesn’t make you a wuss. Letting your fear affect your actions is. Most exercises the community recommend, from doing “Manny” (for the old guys) to going around and asking for opinions at random do not require confidence. Talking to a woman does not require confidence. If you are trying to even trying to fix “your fear” before going out and doing it you are a WUSS and should not spend your time with hypnotherapy, EFT, NLP of other silliness. Big secret here: the fear only goes away with practice. Full stop. It even comes back when you haven’t practised for a while.
3- Your LIFE: working on PU is counterproductive when your foundations are shaky to start with. More basic things like your work, your health, your image are all things that need to be worked on and improved first. Are you successful at your work, do you take care of yourself, are you cultivate, are you fun, do you have a healthy social network? If not THESE THINGS NEED TO BE SORTED FIRST or they become a BIG bottleneck in your PU development. We are talking basic levels here: no need to become a super-socialite or gym buff, like in most things there is a law of diminishing returns. There is plenty of sound advice on the mainstream media on how to handle these. Basically if you’re not what people would at least regard as a “cool likeable interesting presentable guy” sort yourself out.
4- You are TOO HORNY: So horny it shows. It is clear that your goal is to have sex. You fake interest and you get distracted by the next shiny thing. Your are incapable of taking other frames with girls, such as learning, experimenting, socialising, networking, pivoting whatever. You are just looking at ways to get in their pants and you end up hitting on colleagues and friends thus killing your social network. Bouncers can see your type a mile off. It is a serious problem, wank more if needed.
5- MYSOGINISM: Not many explanations needed for this one. If you call, or worse treat, women as bitches, hos, sluts etc, there is no way you’ll get laid. The independent ones won’t touch you with a barge pole and the ones that agree with you will wait till marriage for sex (with you that is). You can’t even realise that you’re a slut yourself. If a women even remotely sniffs that she may end up being judged if she sleeps with you (or anyone else) she will stay well away.
6- You HATE PEOPLE: You couldn’t give a remote shit of the answer when you ask “how are you?”. You are not interested in people’s lives, aspirations, opinions. You cannot find people interesting. You ask questions about a girl only to “make conversation” or perform routines. You have no genuine interest in strangers but you find yourself talking to them simply because you want sex. This was my main barrier to PU till I realised that if you start with the assumption that people ARE interesting then they will be. You also have a limited selection of subjects you can talk about or are interested in, if you know nothing about, say, girls shoes, you’d rather avoid the subject than ask questions and lean more.
7- NO PRIDE. No pride in yourself and what you are (with caveats to point 1 and 3). The acid test for this one is if you need large amounts of privacy and/or feel you need to hide a lot of stuff from your entourage. If you can’t make something open and public you are not proud enough. If for example things you do clash with your religion you’ll hide it. A proud person would either stop doing these things or, much better, get rid of the religion. If you are chatting a girl you are not proud of it and feel that you are doing something sneaky, you are not proud of “liking girls”. Lack of pride is the mother of shyness. Aim to be proud, not by brainwashing yourself into seeing your flaws as qualities (that’s ego), but by getting rid of things you’re not proud of.
Thoughts? any more mortal sins you can think of?
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Re: 7 reasons you'll never succeed in PU « Reply #1 on: Today at 02:33:20 PM » Quote
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's pretty good megamale..
I'll add.. becoming COMPLACENT.. That is gaining a little bit of success, getting too comfortable with the improvements and not willing to push further to the next level. I'm am guilty of that I'm afraid
In other words getting to stuck inside your COMFORT ZONE.
"People only have emotional reactions to those who are higher value than them, and those who they perceive as a threat"
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Re: 7 reasons you'll never succeed in PU « Reply #2 on: Today at 02:46:26 PM » Quote
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote 2- You’re a WUSS: Experiencing fear doesn’t make you a wuss. Letting your fear affect your actions is. Most exercises the community recommend, from doing “Manny” (for the old guys) to going around and asking for opinions at random do not require confidence. Talking to a woman does not require confidence. If you are trying to even trying to fix “your fear” before going out and doing it you are a WUSS and should not spend your time with hypnotherapy, EFT, NLP of other silliness. Big secret here: the fear only goes away with practice. Full stop. It even comes back when you haven’t practised for a while.
Not sure what this point is about. I have heard many people say that they will first spend time fixing their innergame and then do approaches (Ego protection). But I don't think I've ever heard an NLP practitioners, Hypnotherapists or EFT coaches advocate this.
Working on Inner Game and Outer Game simultaneously is best.
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Re: 7 reasons you'll never succeed in PU « Reply #3 on: Today at 03:11:45 PM » Quote
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Excellent Post
Lots to think about!
There is one important point that Ozzie (RSD) mentioned to me, he said
People who are successful at the game are DOERS
ie this requires
- Practice - Persistance, and - Pushing yourself
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Re: 7 reasons you'll never succeed in PU « Reply #4 on: Today at 04:54:40 PM » Quote
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quite interesting to see points 4 & 5 up there - not sure I would class them as insurmountable objects, myself. Misogyny, in particular. If I'm brutally honest I don't think it would be possible to do what many of us do without misogyny being a factor at some level.
As for hating people, again - I really think that can be an asset in the right hands. Charles Bukowski was probably the greatest misandrist who ever lived - and wracked with self-loathing - and he had women flocking to him. His book 'Women' is pretty much a bible on how to turn these traits to your advantage.
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quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: Gosh, others are way hornier than caucasians, aren't they? And if that graph's right they're set to get even hornier!
Basic technical analysis of that chart will see the number at least double by 2100.
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Zygote seems to have fitted right in. He's started handing out genuine pulling advice to other people and batted me away when I wasn't taking the process seriously. I think I may have lost him. Can I have another one?
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Would those of you who are members be so kind as to repost any significant or interesting developments on TMO, for the enjoyment of us non-members ?
quote:Originally posted by MiscellaneousFiles: Would those of you who are members be so kind as to repost any significant or interesting developments on TMO, for the enjoyment of us non-members ?
Much obliged, Miscellaneous
It's pretty dull so far, to be honest. That thread Zygote posted to has got some classic Steelgate on it though...
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Hey, I work at HMV on sundays along with my regular job and I like to game the customers. I've had some pretty good interactions, even a few promising ones that for some stupid reason I pussied out of. Anyway, whilst I have a few routines and things for the customers (e.g. if they buy disney I'll say 'was that calling out to your inner child', but in a cocky way) but I'm open to inspiration. I'm on the shop floor and behind the till so keep that in mind when you make a suggestion. I'd like some really fun ideas for what I could do while I'm working (I use the term working loosely). I game while I work purely because it makes my day more fun and my manager thinks I just give great customer service. I like the cocky and funny approach, just as long as its lots of fun I'll try it. The more original and creative the better. If you come up some really fun stuff to try I'll report back on it so let your imaginations loose.
Look forward to the suggestions.
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It is going to be a bit hard if you are working behind the counter trying to game customers as you don't have much time to chat to them. Thats a difficult one there.
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Re: Routines for when I'm working at HMV? « Reply #2 on: July 02, 2007, 04:31:09 PM » Quote
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have now thought of something you could say to the girls buying records. Ask them if you they have heard music by certain new bands and try to advise them on the best new music etc. Tell them about special offers in the store etc. Like saying "do you know we have got some compilations of new music on a special offer". Make a comment about her like; "I can tell what type of girl you are by the type of music you are buying".
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I used to work evenings at HMV with a guy who opened customers often, he actually introduced "the game" to me and one of the reasons im on this forum posting this message .
Not sure what store you work at but because ours was on oxford st it was busy and hardly had anytime to talk. Since you cant have a phone on you while your on the shop floor and time can be really tight, an idea would be to create the opposite of a false time constraint, false time creation.
Look at the most interesting dvds shes getting, and link it to another item. so if shes getting march of the penguins, mention something like the following while yr scanning the barcodes or shes popping in her pin:
" penguins - * i didnt get it, but it was funny to see them hobble about for 90 mins... * was pretty interesting, never knew penguins were like that... * Wish i could have one as a pet, wouldnt mind seeing who won between it and a cat
These are some off the top my head, what yr saying is not that important as long as its cocky funny, the key thing is to get a response and so u can setup a basic commitment. You then create an opportunity to build up some rapport. After youve got her talking:
" yeah it was cool, but _____ was the craziest documentary ive seen, come on i'll show you " " ____ was one of the most interesting things ive seen in ages. you've got to see it. follow me "
This basically works on social complience. Since you work in HMV, its assumed your knowledge of dvds is going to be pretty good, so unless shes in a hurry or dosent feel like talking then she'll follow your lead. While your walking over, you have a little time to bring up some open ended questions (can be related to do with the initial dvd question) i.e. "Wonder what it would be like to a have a weekend holiday up in the north pole, be crazy chasing polar bears around all day. Wheres the craziest place you would go on holiday ?
Throw in a SOI asap (funny, sexy, a lil crazy, etc) and go for a number close or email close. Theres a potential for lots of flaking, its got to be done in the right frame and your gonna hav to go for the close pretty swiftly, but its worth giving a go.
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Quote Tell them about special offers in the store etc. Like saying "do you know we have got some compilations of new music on a special offer". Make a comment about her like; "I can tell what type of girl you are by the type of music you are buying
Stone, this is gonna come off as really AFC, ive even seen this happen to guys when trying to be "subtle". Since you work in a music store, its assumed and maybe even expected of you that you mention offers that are going on in the store. Theres nothing youve said that makes you different from every other guy who works there.
And the "I can tell what type of girl you are..." line is creepy, my sister gets it all the time from guys and it totally freaks her out.
stonecastle Regular Member Quote from: Grandè on July 03, 2007, 12:08:03 PM Stone, this is gonna come off as really AFC, ive even seen this happen to guys when trying to be "subtle". Since you work in a music store, its assumed and maybe even expected of you that you mention offers that are going on in the store. Theres nothing youve said that makes you different from every other guy who works there.
And the "I can tell what type of girl you are..." line is creepy, my sister gets it all the time from guys and it totally freaks her out. Yes but you are supposed to follow it up with another line once she responds. You could say something like; "working here I have to know a lot about bands and about customers. By what a customer is buying I can tell what other bands they might be interested in and be able to advise them on whats new that they might like".
That would work good if a girl responds to the "I can tell what type of girl you are..." line. If she looks shocked it would provide a good explanation for that statement.
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im sort of half laughing and half cringing here. I'll try and put this best way i can cause if Franigan comes out with what you've just advised i can bet the lady either gets away as fast as her legs can carry her or laughs her head off as soon as his back is turned. I would put money on it.
Quote "working here I have to know a lot about bands and about customers. By what a customer is buying I can tell what other bands they might be interested in and be able to advise them on whats new that they might like".
well, DUH! you dont have to work at somewhere like HMV to tell what kind of band a person might like, the CD theyve got on them is sort of a giveaway to their music taste.
DON'T USE THE " I know what type of gal you are..." line again. Ever.
First off, every female is different and so you probably wont kno who what type of gal they are. Its the sort of line women have heard a 100 times and comes off as creepy unless you doing in a funny/cocky way, and even then this isnt the best statement to use.
I remember talking to my sis about a sleazy guy who came out with this line. As soon as he'd said it and given the "I kno you are attractive and i want to sex u now" look, she literally felt sick to her stomach. Another one of my friends joked about getting a "I know your type..." and wink wink. She ran away from the guy as fast as she could.
I dont think yr trying to be sleazy or anything, and from reading your posts i dont think yr that type of guy. but please, please dont come out with this sort of thing when gaming. At best its says you think u kno women (which you dont) and theyre all the same. At worst you come off as being a pervert.
Good luck with yr game
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I used to work part-time at Our Price when I was a teen, and met many a 'stunner' as a result. As Grandé points out: time is of the essence. One of my favourite manoeuvres was 'accidentally' dropping their change. I might have merely been lucky, but whenever I did this, the gamee would normally find it rather amusing - which, incidentally, I did too, as they were falling for my set-up. I obtained many a mobile number in this fashion (tip: always ensure that you've a biro in your pocket so that numbers can easily be written on your hand) and am now able to call some of these women good friends nearly 14 years on!
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I don't understand. How do you maneuver from dropping their change to getting their phone number.
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By using a well-known communication device, called your voice. The situation usually leads to a short moment of hilarity on both parts. During the interlude, it's normally very straight-forward to change the subject matter to their telephone number - second nature almost. You just have to play it by ear and ensure that there's an initial 'connection', otherwise you're going to look a tad foolish.
It used to work for me anyway, so there you have it.
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Re: Routines for when I'm working at HMV? « Reply #10 on: July 05, 2007, 07:18:12 PM » Quote
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So your advice is to snatch someone's money from their hand, throw it on the ground and then ask for their phone number? I dunno guy - that sounds like the actions of a man in the middle of a psychosis or something.
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